A tranquil and record-warm Thanksgiving for much of the U.S.

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 5:35 PM GMT on November 23, 2012

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Celebrations of the Thanksgiving holiday in the United States in 2012 were aided by some of the most tranquil travel weather ever seen on what is America's busiest travel week. Unusually warm and precipitation-free conditions prevailed over almost the entire nation on Wednesday and Thursday, with many locations in the Midwest reporting their warmest Thanksgiving Day on record. At least three cities set records for their warmest temperature ever recorded so late in the year: Valentine, Nebraska (76° on Wednesday); Rochester, Minnesota (70° on Wednesday); and Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan (65° on Thursday.) While the quiet weather was a boon for travelers, the lack of rain in the Midwest allowed the nation's worst drought since 1954 to expand; the U.S. Drought Monitor reported that the area of the contiguous U.S. covered by moderate or greater drought expanded by 1% to 60% this week. This reversed a seven-week trend of slowly decreasing drought that began on September 25 and extended until November 13, when the area covered by drought declined from 65% to 59%. The latest ten-day forecasts from the GFS and ECMWF models show much below average chances of precipitation across more 90% of the U.S., including the drought regions. These dry conditions will allow the drought to expand over the next two weeks, and potentially cover 65% of the contiguous U.S. again by mid-December. The next chance for significant rains in excess of one inch in the Midwest will not occur until December 2, at the earliest. The lack of rain will potentially cause serious trouble for barge traffic on the Mississippi River by December 10, when the river may fall below the level of -5 feet at St. Louis needed to allow barges to not scrape bottom.


Figure 1. This week's U.S. Drought Monitor shows 60% of the contiguous U.S. was in moderate or greater drought.


Figure 2. Predicted 8-day precipitation amounts from the 06Z (1 am EST) November 23, 2012 run of the GFS model. For the 8-day period ending on Saturday, December 1, only the Northwest Coast, Central Gulf Coast, and portions of the Tennessee Valley are predicted to receive rains in excess of one inch. Image credit: NOAA.

Quiet in the Atlantic
There are no threat areas in the Atlantic to discuss today, and none of the reliable models is forecasting tropical cyclone development between now and the Friday, November 30 official end of hurricane season. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of one more named storm forming in December in the middle Atlantic between Bermuda and Puerto Rico, but late-season storms forming in that location rarely affect land.

Have a great holiday weekend, everyone!

Jeff Masters

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to all our wonderful WU Community..a frigid and frosty daybreak at our neighbor's pond..heading up to a sunny and beautiful 50 degree afternoon..:)
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there's always light..
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69. Skyepony (Mod)
CIMSS captured GOES fog footage around that wreck on their blog. It happened on I-10 in the red near where the road does a sharp turn.



Quoting TomballTXPride:


I like that image, Skye! You can easily make out the mid-level frontal boundary sweeping through the mid-Mississippi Valley.


Yeah I like how everything is color coated by height. Makes it easier to see what will be affected by the different steering layers.
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Quoting Jedkins01:



I feel sorry for you, the upcoming generation's insatiable obsession and demand for the latest electronic device with little appreciation for their complexity has me worried, and this is coming from a 22 year old young man... lol
Jedkins....My daughter is 33....LOL
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Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
I bundled up at 6:00 am when my daughter "MADE" me go look for Ipads at best Buy... when we left the store it was warm enough to rid of all the warm weather garb.



I feel sorry for you, the upcoming generation's insatiable obsession and demand for the latest electronic device with little appreciation for their complexity has me worried, and this is coming from a 22 year old young man... lol
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Quoting Jedkins01:



That's really not that strange of temperatures, it was 44 this morning at my place in Pinellas. I headed out for some black Friday deals at the auto parts store to help bring up my old pickup truck back to condition so that it doesn't drive like an old truck anymore. It was quite cold, I'm not used to those kind of temps yet, I even wore some gloves.

That is far the coldest weather this fall, and the coldest temp for this early in the year since the very cold 2010 winter.
Don we now out gay apparel , fa la la la la, la la la la...
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
This time of the year is so boring to me. Hurricane season is calming down, the secondary tornado season peak is calming down, but winter storms haven't really gotten going yet.


I agree, I do like the refreshingly cooler air though instead of the same old mid 80's or warmer days in Florida.
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Quoting Jedkins01:



That's really not that strange of temperatures, it was 44 this morning at my place in Pinellas. I headed out for some black Friday deals at the auto parts store to help bring up my old pickup truck back to condition so that it doesn't drive like an old truck anymore. It was quite cold, I'm not used to those kind of temps yet, I even wore some gloves.

That is far the coldest weather this fall, and the coldest temp for this early in the year since the very cold 2010 winter.
I bundled up at 6:00 am when my daughter "MADE" me go look for Ipads at best Buy... when we left the store it was warm enough to rid of all the warm weather garb.
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Quoting LargoFl:
get out your woolies tonight lol...........



That's really not that strange of temperatures, it was 44 this morning at my place in Pinellas. I headed out for some black Friday deals at the auto parts store to help bring up my old pickup truck back to condition so that it doesn't drive like an old truck anymore. It was quite cold, I'm not used to those kind of temps yet, I even wore some gloves.

That is far the coldest weather this fall, and the coldest temp for this early in the year since the very cold 2010 winter.
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Quoting goosegirl1:



There was a pile-up not very far from my home in 2003: Link

There is a warning system installed there now. This is both a treacherous and busy highway, as it is the route most use to get from DC to Pittsburgh and avoid the tolls on the PA Turnpike.

Yep, I bet fog takes lives every year somewhere in the US. Probably deserves more recognition.
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Quoting catman306:


Unless it's unseasonably hot, droughts are periods of wonderful weather that just go on and on to the point of being boring.

Too much good weather just might be a drought.
catman.I guess it is a perspective that is judged by each person... a drought is not regarded by me as wonderful weather. Too each his/her own I guess.
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Quoting VR46L:


I dont know

appears to be a bit that came off the front



and appears to be dissipating and has alot of shear loop embedded

Thank you !!
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I'm surprised Central Florida isn't back in d0 drought yet, because we are abnormally dry. The once swelled ponds and drain ditches from the typical very rainy summer are now extremely low on water, and grass plants are completely brown, my backyard has turned to sand. We have only had about 0.20 over the last month. Which is about 15 times below what it should be.
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55. Skyepony (Mod)
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Quoting luvtogolf:


It's funny how quick you were to criticize people when it was posted a set of record lows out numbering the highs by a significant margin over a couple of weeks time frame. I can see when you come from now.
"Record lows out numbering the highs by a significant margin over a couple of weeks time frame"? Oh, you must be talking about that one-week cold spell in early October. I believe I've found it:

temps

At any rate, I was merely echoing Dr. Masters' statement that "unusually warm and precipitation-free conditions prevailed over almost the entire nation on Wednesday and Thursday." I'm not sure how a a one-week cold snap nearly two months ago disproves his statement, or mine.
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FLOOD ADVISORY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
354 PM AST FRI NOV 23 2012

PRC029-031-087-232200-
/O.NEW.TJSJ.FA.Y.0449.121123T1954Z-121123T2200Z/
/00000.N.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000 Z.OO/
CANOVANAS PR-CAROLINA PR-LOIZA PR-
354 PM AST FRI NOV 23 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SAN JUAN HAS ISSUED AN

* URBAN AND SMALL STREAM FLOOD ADVISORY FOR MINOR FLOODING OF POOR
DRAINAGE AREAS IN
FOR THE FOLLOWING MUNICIPALITIES...

IN PUERTO RICO
CANOVANAS...CAROLINA AND LOIZA

* UNTIL 600 PM AST

* AT 353 PM AST...DOPPLER WEATHER RADAR INDICATED SHOWERS AND
ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS...SOME WITH VERY HEAVY RAIN AFFECTING THESE
MUNICIPALITIES. RADAR ESTIMATES INDICATE THAT 1 TO LOCALLY 2 INCHES
OF RAIN HAVE ALREADY FALLEN OVER PARTS OF THE ADVISORY AREA...
PARTICULARLY OVER CAROLINA AND LOIZA. ADDITIONAL RAINFALL OF AT
LEAST 1 INCH IS EXPECTED THROUGH 600 PM AST.

DO NOT DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE INTO AREAS WHERE THE WATER COVERS THE
ROADWAY. THE WATER DEPTH MAY BE TOO GREAT TO ALLOW YOUR CAR TO CROSS
SAFELY. MOVE TO HIGHER GROUND.

&&

LAT...LON 1844 6588 1842 6590 1841 6588 1838 6588
1836 6597 1845 6603 1846 6596

$$

JJA
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Quoting bappit:

Y'all are oblivously obvious to the dangers of patchy dense fog--which can occur just about anywhere. I think one notorious location is up in the mountains of eastern Tennessee.

Patchy dense fog can go from good visibility to basically none in a blink at 70 mph (typical speed in that stretch). Basically you are helpless no matter how far you are behind the driver in front of you. If you slow down, the driver behind runs into you. If you do not slow down you risk running into the driver in front of you at full speed. Basically a no-win situation.



There was a pile-up not very far from my home in 2003: Link

There is a warning system installed there now. This is both a treacherous and busy highway, as it is the route most use to get from DC to Pittsburgh and avoid the tolls on the PA Turnpike.
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Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
I love boring


Unless it's unseasonably hot, droughts are periods of wonderful weather that just go on and on to the point of being boring.

Too much good weather just might be a drought.
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Quoting bappit:

Dense fog is not nice weather. 140+ vehicle crashes is drama.
Well, dense fog is hardly severe weather. In fact, fog is a stable-weather phenomenon. And that wreck, bad as it was, was in but a single location in Texas--hardly indicative of the nation's delightful Thanksgiving weather as a whole, and nothing on a par with, say, a massive multi-state winter system inconveniencing tens of millions. (Too, there are about 17,000 motor vehicle accidents in the U.S each day; the Texas wreck just happened to involve far more motor vehicles than normal.)
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Quoting bappit:
How many of you believe in psycho-kinesis? Raise my hand.


If that's not a play on words, and referring to more or less the same thing as "telekinesis" then:

The concept of "moving something with your mind" is conceivably plausible within the known laws of physics.

Although the existence of a biological mechanism to produce, contain, and direct whatever energy is involved to control the manipulation, well, that seems far fetched to believe it hasn't been found yet, though again, not entirely implausible.

After all, we have lots of similar things in science:

Savants can do decimal math to a higher degree of precision than computers.

Electric Eels store electric charge in their muscles, and consciously release it in deadly amounts. While not existing at comic book levels, obviously, it's the best example of conscious "anything-kinesis" that I know of in nature.

All fish appear to have at least one extra sense compared to humans.


Is the concept possible? Yes.

Is a mechanism possible? Yes. Humans are experimenting with the "Spooky action at a distance" as per Quantum Entanglement in laboratories all the time now.


Is a biological mechanism possible? Most likely.

Does it exist? Who knows. Almost everything you can conceive has existed at some scale, at some time in Earth's history of life.
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Quoting MontanaZephyr:


Coastal fog is not that unusual. Here's betting that most or all of the drivers get cited for "Driving too fast for current conditions". Houston-ites should know better. Anyone should.



This was "radiation fog". A type not limited to the coast. You may have seen some where you live. Also, this was on an INTERSTATE highway approx. 70 miles from Houston. May be a bit of a stretch to assume all those involved were from Houston.
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re: #44

Yep, exactly what's needed... and prohibitively expensive to accomplish for large-scale coverage.
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FWIW, it would cost prohibitive, but a remotely operated light and or gate system to shut down limited access highways should be on them all. So even if in clear weather something happens where you need to shut down the highway you could. And without having to use a bunch of law enforcement officers to do so. Also this would allow the shutdown to happen very quick.

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Quoting HuracanTaino:
What about the little "spin" on the clouds South of Jamaica...? Just asking..


I dont know

appears to be a bit that came off the front



and appears to be dissipating and has alot of shear loop embedded

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They took some extreme measures.

"In 1993 a fog warning system was installed on I-75 in the fog zone where the accident occurred. There are 19 miles of fog lights, 8 fog detectors and 22 speed detectors that were installed at a cost of almost 4.5 million dollars. Gates were put in at several on/off ramps at various exists in the area. The gates are operated by sensors. The highway can literally be shut down and traffic re-routed to side roads."
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Quoting bappit:

Y'all are oblivously obvious to the dangers of patchy dense fog--which can occur just about anywhere. I think one notorious location is up in the mountains of eastern Tennessee.

Patchy dense fog can go from good visibility to basically none in a blink at 70 mph (typical speed in that stretch). Basically you are helpless no matter how far you are behind the driver in front of you. If you slow down, the driver behind runs into you. If you do not slow down you risk running into the driver in front of you at full speed. Basically a no-win situation.

Guess what? There's a Wikipedia article on multi-vehicle accidents. The give a list. First one is:

"Interstate 75 in Calhoun, Tennessee, United States, between Chattanooga and Knoxville near the Hiwassee River, due to very heavy fog; fiery crash involved 99 vehicles; 12 deaths and 42 injuries. A fog warning system has since been installed, and the highway patrol enforces speed limits aggressively."

I listened to a story about this one some years ago. It seems that back in the 1800's people would have to get off their horses and lead them on foot the fog would get so thick. Also, the fog was very local. They built an interstate through the valley with predictable results.

Edit: here's a nice article about the problem. They have installed warning lights to alert people to the fog ahead of them.
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Thanks Dr. Masters.
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Quoting HuracanTaino:
What about the little "spin" on the clouds South of Jamaica...? Just asking..


Very hostile dry enviroment.. don't think it has much of a chance HuracanTaino..

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Quoting bappit:

Dense fog is not nice weather. 140+ vehicle crashes is drama.


Right on target, bappit.
That was another horrible pile-up yesterday in TX... A sad fact we have yet to devise a useful warning system for motorists, at least on interstates, with so many lives at stake... I could envision employing automated sensors / caution lights, mandatory speed reduction, etc, but with the sheer scale and amount of equipment needed to deploy, most certainly no available funding to do such... That said, it always amazes me how many people on the road appear oblivious, continuing along at high speed once they drive into totally blind conditions. But one can come upon those deadly conditions usually without foresight, with the patchy, localized nature of dense fog.

Isn't it a curious fact that some of the most dangerous, and often deadly - yet benign weather - in the short-term is fog... and in the long-term is drought!
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Quoting Grothar:


LOL
I do...........
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Quoting VR46L:


I somehow doubt it ... the sea surface temps are rather cool


but the low does have a lovely swirl to it link for full animation embedded

What about the little "spin" on the clouds South of Jamaica...? Just asking..
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Quoting aspectre:
8 pcola57: Predicted Soil Moisture Anomaly

Forecasting "14Nov2012-07Nov2012" ain't much of a prediction.


Yeah thanks aspectre..I saw that..but couldn't find any prediction farther out..started not to post it.. :)
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Quoting MontanaZephyr:


Coastal fog is not that unusual. Here's betting that most or all of the drivers get cited for "Driving too fast for current conditions". Houston-ites should know better. Anyone should.


Y'all are oblivously obvious to the dangers of patchy dense fog--which can occur just about anywhere. I think one notorious location is up in the mountains of eastern Tennessee.

Patchy dense fog can go from good visibility to basically none in a blink at 70 mph (typical speed in that stretch). Basically you are helpless no matter how far you are behind the driver in front of you. If you slow down, the driver behind runs into you. If you do not slow down you risk running into the driver in front of you at full speed. Basically a no-win situation.
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8 pcola57: Predicted Soil Moisture Anomaly

Forecasting "14Nov2012-07Nov2012" ain't much of a prediction.
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Quoting SteveDa1:

If you read closely, he specifically said "remarkably lacking" and not "completely nonexistent."


The prolonged calm weather, for almost the entire continent, is unusual for late fall. ...

Even north of the border, it has been relatively calm, as of late, save for some snows in the Canadian prairies, and, of course, the west coast. Ugh, I too am finding this extremely boring.


Coastal fog is not that unusual. Here's betting that most or all of the drivers get cited for "Driving too fast for current conditions". Houston-ites should know better. Anyone should.

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Quoting bappit:
How many of you believe in psycho-kinesis? Raise my hand.
Kinda like Dyslexia....5 out 0f 4 people have it.
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Well, since it is a slow period and y'all are sounding bored, here is something fun to poke through (Caution: it's a bit woo-woo, but if you can set aside your fear of woo-woo, you might enjoy it!)

October 3, 1966, Monday

Mr. Rowland Swank, O.S.C.A.R.

Dear Rowland:

Well, I told you Thursday or Friday that I was working to turn Hurricane Inez from going West, to going North, check?

I had to do two things over the weekend... build Inez up to a hurricane again, after she died down to just a storm... then turn her toward Florida.

Enclosed is a photostat of today's N.Y. Times map of Inez... and you can see for yourself that, although last week she was coming in on Cuba, going WestXXX and according to the Weather Bureaus was not supposed to come near the U.S. - she changed direction over the weekend just as I was working for her to do, and shot toward the U.S., just shaving Electro. The paper says Inez's gales and storms are kicking the hell out of Electro, but she didn't hit Electro head on. I don't know how much of a miss this is, but it certainly isn't much. I guided Inez 1700 miles in on the target. Not a head on hit, but damn good shooting, nevertheless. Don't you agree?

I'm still trying to turn her in left for a head-on hit, because she's alongside... or if she gets out a little, I'll try to repeat Betsy over again.


Link
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The temp is falling and winds are increasing in my area. Snow is beginning to mix and fall and even slightly be seen on grassy surfaces and roof edges.
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Quoting bappit:

Dense fog is not nice weather. 140 vehicle crashes is drama.

If you read closely, he specifically said "remarkably lacking" and not "completely nonexistent."


The prolonged calm weather, for almost the entire continent, is unusual for late fall. ...

Even north of the border, it has been relatively calm as of late, save for some snows in the Canadian prairies and, of course, the west coast. Ugh, I too am finding this extremely boring.
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Quoting bappit:
How many of you believe in psycho-kinesis? Raise my hand.


LOL
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URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
1239 PM CST FRI NOV 23 2012

...FIRST WIDESPREAD FREEZE OF THE SEASON EXPECTED OVER PORTIONS
OF SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI AND SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA SATURDAY NIGHT...

.DEW POINTS IN THE 20S AND CLEAR SKIES WILL RESULT IN VERY
EFFICIENT RADIATIVE COOLING SATURDAY NIGHT. TEMPERATURES ARE
FORECAST TO DROP BELOW FREEZING FOR A FEW HOURS SUNDAY MORNING
ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE AREA THAT ARE GENERALLY ALONG AND EAST OF
A LINE FROM LIBERTY TO HAMMOND TO SLIDELL. TEMPERATURES ARE
EXPECTED TO DROP BELOW FREEZING AFTER MIDNIGHT AND SHOULD RISE
ABOVE FREEZING WITHIN AN HOUR OR TWO OF SUNRISE.

LAZ037-039-040-071-072-MSZ069>071-077-080>082-240 245-
/O.CON.KLIX.FZ.A.0002.121125T0600Z-121125T1300Z/
ST. HELENA-WASHINGTON-ST. TAMMANY-NORTHERN TANGIPAHOA-
SOUTHERN TANGIPAHOA-AMITE-PIKE-WALTHALL-PEARL RIVER-HANCOCK-
HARRISON-JACKSON-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...GREENSBURG...MONTPELIER...BOGALUSA...
FRANKLINTON...SLIDELL...MANDEVILLE...COVINGTON... LACOMBE...
AMITE...KENTWOOD...HAMMOND...PONCHATOULA...GLOSTE R...LIBERTY...
CROSBY...MCCOMB...TYLERTOWN...PICAYUNE...BAY ST. LOUIS...
WAVELAND...DIAMONDHEAD...GULFPORT...BILOXI...PASC AGOULA...
OCEAN SPRINGS...MOSS POINT...GAUTIER...ST. MARTIN
1239 PM CST FRI NOV 23 2012

...FREEZE WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM LATE SATURDAY NIGHT
THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING...

* TIMING...TEMPERATURES ARE FORECAST TO DROP BELOW FREEZING
AFTER MIDNIGHT SATURDAY NIGHT. ONCE TEMPERATURES DROP BELOW
FREEZING UNTIL AFTER SUNRISE.

* DURATION...TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO BE BELOW FREEZING FOR
4 TO 5 HOURS LATE SATURDAY NIGHT AND EARLY SUNDAY MORNING.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A FREEZE WATCH MEANS SUB-FREEZING TEMPERATURES ARE POSSIBLE.
THESE CONDITIONS COULD KILL CROPS AND OTHER SENSITIVE VEGETATION.

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Hope it doesnt get cold enough to kill the citrus trees..URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
100 PM EST FRI NOV 23 2012

...FREEZE WATCH IN EFFECT FOR LEVY COUNTY SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY
MORNING...

.A COLD AIR MASS WILL FILTER INTO THE AREA AND LEAD TO SEVERAL
HOURS OF FREEZING TEMPERATURES FOR LEVY COUNTY.

FLZ039-242100-
/O.NEW.KTBW.FZ.A.0007.121125T0700Z-121125T1200Z/
LEVY-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...CEDAR KEY...CHIEFLAND
100 PM EST FRI NOV 23 2012

...FREEZE WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY
MORNING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL HAS
ISSUED A FREEZE WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM LATE SATURDAY
NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING.

* TEMPERATURE...SEVERAL HOURS OF BELOW 32 DEGREES.

* IMPACTS...DAMAGE IS POSSIBLE TO COLD SENSITIVE PLANTS. PLAN TO
COVER OR BRING INDOORS THESE PLANTS DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
ALSO BE SURE TO BRING PETS INSIDE TO PROTECT THEM FROM THE COLD.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A FREEZE WATCH IS ISSUED FOR THE POTENTIAL OF A WIDESPREAD AND
DAMAGING FREEZE WITHIN 24 TO 48 HOURS. DURING THE FREEZE
PERIOD...TEMPERATURES MAY REMAIN BELOW 32 DEGREES FOR MORE THAN
2 HOURS.

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get out your woolies tonight lol...........
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23. Skyepony (Mod)
ST. LOUIS (AP) - The Army Corps of Engineers on Friday began reducing the flow from a Missouri River reservoir, a move expected to worsen low water conditions on the Mississippi River and potentially bring barge traffic to a halt within weeks.

One result of this year's drought, the worst in decades, has been a big drop in water levels on both the Mississippi and Missouri rivers.

The Corps of Engineers office in Omaha, Neb., announced earlier this month plans to reduce the outflow from the Gavins Point Dam near Yankton, S.D. Corps spokeswoman Monique Farmer told The Associated Press that the reduction began as scheduled Friday morning. By late-morning, the flow that had started at 37,500 cubic feet per second had been cut to 35,500 cubic feet per second.

Farmer said plans call for a gradual reduction down to 12,000 cubic feet per second by Dec. 11.

The Mississippi is nearing historic lows between St. Louis and Cairo, Ill. Barges are already required to carry lighter loads and the middle of the river could be closed to barge traffic if the water level at St. Louis dips below minus 5 feet. It was at minus 0.45 feet Friday.

A zero river reading at St. Louis was established more than a century ago. It's the point at which people at that time thought the river would never drop below.

The National Weather Service forecast for river levels extends only as far as Dec. 6. It calls for the Mississippi River to get to minus 3.7 feet at St. Louis by then. Businesses that ship on the river and their trade groups expect to get to minus 5 feet by around Dec. 10.

Barge operators and those who ship on the Mississippi have warned that stopping barge traffic would risk economic catastrophe for coal, agriculture, petroleum and other interests. Some companies have said they may have to lay off workers if barge traffic is halted for any significant amount of time. More here..
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That's a same to have a NOVEMBER this DRY.
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BORING.......... ENDLESS BORING TIME. HOPE 2013 WILL BE WETTER... I LOVED 2010 and 2011.
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Quoting LostTomorrows:
I wonder if that lovely swirl north o Bermuda has what it takes to become a subtropical storm, it's looking pretty good at the moment.


I somehow doubt it ... the sea surface temps are rather cool


but the low does have a lovely swirl to it link for full animation embedded

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