A tranquil and record-warm Thanksgiving for much of the U.S.

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 5:35 PM GMT on November 23, 2012

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Celebrations of the Thanksgiving holiday in the United States in 2012 were aided by some of the most tranquil travel weather ever seen on what is America's busiest travel week. Unusually warm and precipitation-free conditions prevailed over almost the entire nation on Wednesday and Thursday, with many locations in the Midwest reporting their warmest Thanksgiving Day on record. At least three cities set records for their warmest temperature ever recorded so late in the year: Valentine, Nebraska (76° on Wednesday); Rochester, Minnesota (70° on Wednesday); and Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan (65° on Thursday.) While the quiet weather was a boon for travelers, the lack of rain in the Midwest allowed the nation's worst drought since 1954 to expand; the U.S. Drought Monitor reported that the area of the contiguous U.S. covered by moderate or greater drought expanded by 1% to 60% this week. This reversed a seven-week trend of slowly decreasing drought that began on September 25 and extended until November 13, when the area covered by drought declined from 65% to 59%. The latest ten-day forecasts from the GFS and ECMWF models show much below average chances of precipitation across more 90% of the U.S., including the drought regions. These dry conditions will allow the drought to expand over the next two weeks, and potentially cover 65% of the contiguous U.S. again by mid-December. The next chance for significant rains in excess of one inch in the Midwest will not occur until December 2, at the earliest. The lack of rain will potentially cause serious trouble for barge traffic on the Mississippi River by December 10, when the river may fall below the level of -5 feet at St. Louis needed to allow barges to not scrape bottom.


Figure 1. This week's U.S. Drought Monitor shows 60% of the contiguous U.S. was in moderate or greater drought.


Figure 2. Predicted 8-day precipitation amounts from the 06Z (1 am EST) November 23, 2012 run of the GFS model. For the 8-day period ending on Saturday, December 1, only the Northwest Coast, Central Gulf Coast, and portions of the Tennessee Valley are predicted to receive rains in excess of one inch. Image credit: NOAA.

Quiet in the Atlantic
There are no threat areas in the Atlantic to discuss today, and none of the reliable models is forecasting tropical cyclone development between now and the Friday, November 30 official end of hurricane season. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of one more named storm forming in December in the middle Atlantic between Bermuda and Puerto Rico, but late-season storms forming in that location rarely affect land.

Have a great holiday weekend, everyone!

Jeff Masters

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to all our wonderful WU Community..a frigid and frosty daybreak at our neighbor's pond..heading up to a sunny and beautiful 50 degree afternoon..:)
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319. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)


Boldwin gets named by Mauritius Meteorological Services
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318. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #3
TEMPETE TROPICALE MODEREE BOLDWIN (03-20122013)
10:30 AM RET November 24 2012
=======================================

At 6:00 AM UTC, Moderate Tropical Storm Boldwin (994 hPa) located at 13.6S 75.9E has 10 minute sustained winds of 45 knots with gusts of 65 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving southwest at 7 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T3.5/3.5/D1.0/6 HRS

Gale Force Winds
===============
25 NM radius from the center, extending up to 30 NM in the northeastern quadrant, up to 45 NM in the southwestern quadrant and up to 55 NM in the southeastern quadrant

Near Gale Force Winds
======================
30 NM radius from the center, extending up to 35 NM in the northeastern quadrant, up to 65 NM in the southwestern quadrant and up to 95 NM in the southeastern quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
=======================
24 HRS: 14.7S 73.9E - 60 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)
48 HRS: 15.0S 71.5E - 45 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modérée)
72 HRS: 15.6S 68.7E - 30 knots (Depression Tropicale)

Additional Information
========================

The system has significantly deepen since the second part of the previous night. Microwave imagery from late last night and this morning show a building eye pattern in both mid and low level. An improving ragged eye has appeared on visible imagery since 0330 AM UTC. The system is compact (mean diameter of near gale force winds estimated at 55 NM according to latest ASCAT pass of 0346 AM UTC) and environmental pressure are around 1010 hPa. Consequently, Mean sea level pressure is higher than usual for a system of that strength.

Available Dvorak estimates at 06:00 AM UTC gives an initial intensity at 40 knots (SAB and PGTW at 3.0). However given the microwave signature and a persistent 0.8/0.9 curved band on classical imagery, initial intensity estimate is locked at 45 knots.

Environmental conditions are now good aloft the circulation. The wind shear is weak under the upper level ridge axis, upper level divergence is rather good mainly poleward. Sea surface temperatures (in the 27-28c range) and oceanic heat contain are also favorable for some further development.This rather favorable environmental conditions are expected to continue until Sunday afternoon.

Available numerical weather prediction guidance struggle to properly handle the current intensification of this small system. The current intensity forecast is stronger than the previous one and is based on STIPS output that suggest that a 15 knots increase in max winds is possible during the favorable window. Confidence in this intensity forecast is lower than usual.

Late Sunday, northerly then north-westerly vertical wind shear is expected to strengthen and system is therefore expected to progressively weaken. Tuesday and Wednesday, the system should track towards a polar trough transiting in its south. An interaction with the upper level trough that could maintain intensity seems possible according to numerical weather prediction fields.
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Quoting Skyepony:
At long last, both houses of Congress passed whistleblower legislation that will protect federal employees who expose the censorship and misuse of government science. The bill (pdf) now goes to President Obama's desk. He's expected to sign it.

My colleague, Senior Washington Representative Celia Wexler, put it best:

"The [legislation] recognizes for the first time that censorship of federal information is as harmful to the country as other types of waste, fraud, and abuse in government…At a time when science seems to be routinely under attack in Congress, this legislative success is a breath of fresh air and a reminder that bipartisan cooperation is still possible."

Many organizations across the political spectrum worked for more than a decade to strengthen U.S. whistleblower law. But it was the Union of Concerned Scientists who pushed for protections for agency scientists when their work was suppressed or misused. Celia and other UCS staff spent hundreds of hours on Capitol Hill educating lawmakers on this critical issue.

And you were there with us. We first asked you to contact Congress about this issue in 2007. And your emails, phone calls, and donations made a big difference over the years, as we saw lawmakers begin to understand the importance of whistleblower protections and then advocate for them.

We particularly are grateful to representatives Elijah Cummings (D-MD), Paul Gosar (R-AZ), Darrell Issa (R-CA), Steve Pearce (R-NM), Todd Platts (R-PA), and Chris Van Hollen (D-MD), and senators Daniel Akaka (D-HI), Susan Collins (R-ME), Charles Grassley (R-IA), Joe Lieberman (I-CT), and Claire McCaskill (D-MO). These elected officials saw the legislation through to the end, ensuring that it would not die with the end of this session of Congress.

Kevin Knobloch


Now if we don't have to wait hours in line to vote. There is hope. - cheers!
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316. Skyepony (Mod)
The 16 scariest maps from the E.U.’s massive new climate change report

By Philip Bump

Thinking about a Mediterranean vacation? Might want to go sooner rather than later.
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315. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
2012NOV24 053000 2.7 994.6/ +0.0 / 39.0 2.7 2.9 3.2

03R RSMC data

Raw: 3.0
Adjusted: 2.5
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314. Skyepony (Mod)
At long last, both houses of Congress passed whistleblower legislation that will protect federal employees who expose the censorship and misuse of government science. The bill (pdf) now goes to President Obama's desk. He's expected to sign it.

My colleague, Senior Washington Representative Celia Wexler, put it best:

"The [legislation] recognizes for the first time that censorship of federal information is as harmful to the country as other types of waste, fraud, and abuse in government…At a time when science seems to be routinely under attack in Congress, this legislative success is a breath of fresh air and a reminder that bipartisan cooperation is still possible."

Many organizations across the political spectrum worked for more than a decade to strengthen U.S. whistleblower law. But it was the Union of Concerned Scientists who pushed for protections for agency scientists when their work was suppressed or misused. Celia and other UCS staff spent hundreds of hours on Capitol Hill educating lawmakers on this critical issue.

And you were there with us. We first asked you to contact Congress about this issue in 2007. And your emails, phone calls, and donations made a big difference over the years, as we saw lawmakers begin to understand the importance of whistleblower protections and then advocate for them.

We particularly are grateful to representatives Elijah Cummings (D-MD), Paul Gosar (R-AZ), Darrell Issa (R-CA), Steve Pearce (R-NM), Todd Platts (R-PA), and Chris Van Hollen (D-MD), and senators Daniel Akaka (D-HI), Susan Collins (R-ME), Charles Grassley (R-IA), Joe Lieberman (I-CT), and Claire McCaskill (D-MO). These elected officials saw the legislation through to the end, ensuring that it would not die with the end of this session of Congress.

Kevin Knobloch
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Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:



It dumped 14-20 feet of snow?!

opps i meant inches
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Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:



It dumped 14-20 feet of snow?!


impressive
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Quoting AussieStorm:

It a rough guess. It was reported between 14-20'



It dumped 14-20 feet of snow?!
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Quoting beell:


typo?

It a rough guess. It was reported between 14-20
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Nea doesn't "bully" people. If proving somebody wrong is considered bullying to you, then you might want to get your definitions straight.

Nice appeal to authority thrown in there by our hero. It doesn't change the facts.

People are dead and many injured because of the weather on Thursday morning. The deaths were violent. It was pretty dramatic.

It is good that people be made more aware of the dangers that exist. Publicizing the issue should be a good thing. Of course, it is not good to carry this issue on further on the blog since it has long ago turned into a wee-wee contest.
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wind wise...here is how it goes... more or less. kph is confusing to me although they use the metric system. I got the mph scale from the knot range
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tropical disturbance................less than 30 mph
tropical depression.................30-35 mph
moderate tropical storm.........40-55 mph
severe tropical storm..............55-70 mph
tropical cyclone.......................75-100 mph
intense tropical cyclone........105-130 mph
very intense tropical cyclone.more than 130 mph (or cat 4 )
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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:

they begin tracking a storm much before it becomes a tropical depression...

>>>>zone of disturbed weather/tropical disturbance (I think that is a waist of time because not all of them make it to a named storm) is first
then
>>>>Tropical/subtropical depression (Ok...just like we do) is second
>>>>MODERATE tropical storm (odd) is the third stage
>>>>SEVERE tropical storm is fourth
>>>>Tropical Cyclone (aka Hurricane) is fifth
>>>>Intense Tropical cyclone (Anais made it to this level) is stage six
>>>>Very intense tropical cyclone (I think they mean major hurricanes like cat 4 or 5) is the last seventh stage


Moderate tropical storms are basically normal tropical storms. Severe tropical storms are near minimal hurricanes due to the 1-min to 10-min wind speed conversion.

Tropical cyclones are category 1-2 hurricanes.
Intense tropical cyclones are category 3-4 hurricanes.
Very intense tropical cyclones are category 5.
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they begin tracking a storm much before it becomes a tropical depression...

>>>>zone of disturbed weather/tropical disturbance (I think that is a waste of time because not all of them make it to a named storm) is first
then
>>>>Tropical/subtropical depression (Ok...just like we do) is second
>>>>MODERATE tropical storm (odd) is the third stage
>>>>SEVERE tropical storm is fourth
>>>>Tropical Cyclone (aka Hurricane) is fifth
>>>>Intense Tropical cyclone(Anais made it to this level) is stage six
>>>>Very intense tropical cyclone (I think they mean major hurricanes like cat 4 or 5) is the last seventh stage
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304. beell
Quoting AussieStorm:


But it did drop 20' of snow. Sure the population isn't high in those states but it would be disruptive. Also on Weatherbrains when Brian Norcross was on, he also explained that they would mainly name systems that would effect the east coast. So I guess a system only effecting the NW wouldn't make that criteria also.


typo?
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Meteo France is issuing advisories on tropical depression 3 (96S).

0.A NUMERO DU BULLETIN : 2/3/20122013
1.A DEPRESSION TROPICALE 3
3.A ANALYSE DE DVORAK : 2.5/2.5/D 1.5/18 H
4.A PRESSION AU CENTRE : 998 HPA (minimum pressure)
5.A VENT MAX (MOYEN/10 MN): 30 KT (max winds)
RAYON DES VENTS MAXIMAUX (RVM) :NEANT

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Their classification scale...forecasting, advisory issuance, style etc are so more hard-to-comprehend...maybe because I'm so accustomed to the NHC style
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Quoting AussieStorm:


It would be up to the authority that looks after a certain area to issue advisories.


FORMATION OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE IS POSSIBLE WITHIN
150 NM EITHER SIDE OF A LINE FROM 12.4S 77.0E TO 14.2S 72.0E
WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. AVAILABLE DATA DOES NOT JUSTIFY
ISSUANCE OF NUMBERED TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNINGS AT THIS TIME. WINDS
IN THE AREA ARE ESTIMATED TO BE 25 TO 30 KNOTS. METSAT IMAGERY AT
240200Z INDICATES THAT A CIRCULATION CENTER IS LOCATED NEAR 12.8S
76.4E. THE SYSTEM IS MOVING SOUTHWESTWARD AT 07 KNOTS.
2. REMARKS: THE AREA OF CONVECTION PREVIOUSLY LOCATED NEAR 12.0S
77.2E IS NOW LOCATED NEAR 12.8S 76.4E, APPROXIMATELY 405 NM
SOUTHEAST OF DIEGO GARCIA. ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY
DEPICTS A CONSOLIDATING LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC) WITH
IMPROVED CONVECTIVE BANDING OVER THE SOUTHERN SEMI-CIRCLE WRAPPING
INTO THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT. A 232203Z SSMI IMAGE INDICATES THAT
THE LLCC HAS BECOME MORE VERTICALLY ALIGNED OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS
DUE TO DECREASING VERTICAL WIND SHEAR, WHICH IS CURRENTLY AT 10 TO
15 KNOTS. UPPER-LEVEL ANALYSIS INDICATES THAT THE LLCC IS LOCATED
UNDER THE SUBTROPICAL WITH ENHANCED POLEWARD OUTFLOW ENHANCED BY
THE STRONG WESTERLIES LOCATED TO THE SOUTH. SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES
IN THE AREA ARE FAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT AT 28 TO 30 DEGREES
CELSIUS. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED SURFACE WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 25 TO 30
KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1002 MB.
THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE
WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS HIGH.
3. THIS ALERT WILL BE REISSUED, UPGRADED TO WARNING OR CANCELLED
BY 250230Z.//









I go to the JTWC site often
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We didn't get a TC in the SW Pacific.
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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


how does the tropical cyclone advisory deal works with JTWC or whoever does it over there?


It would be up to the authority that looks after a certain area to issue advisories.


FORMATION OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE IS POSSIBLE WITHIN
150 NM EITHER SIDE OF A LINE FROM 12.4S 77.0E TO 14.2S 72.0E
WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. AVAILABLE DATA DOES NOT JUSTIFY
ISSUANCE OF NUMBERED TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNINGS AT THIS TIME. WINDS
IN THE AREA ARE ESTIMATED TO BE 25 TO 30 KNOTS. METSAT IMAGERY AT
240200Z INDICATES THAT A CIRCULATION CENTER IS LOCATED NEAR 12.8S
76.4E. THE SYSTEM IS MOVING SOUTHWESTWARD AT 07 KNOTS.
2. REMARKS: THE AREA OF CONVECTION PREVIOUSLY LOCATED NEAR 12.0S
77.2E IS NOW LOCATED NEAR 12.8S 76.4E, APPROXIMATELY 405 NM
SOUTHEAST OF DIEGO GARCIA. ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY
DEPICTS A CONSOLIDATING LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC) WITH
IMPROVED CONVECTIVE BANDING OVER THE SOUTHERN SEMI-CIRCLE WRAPPING
INTO THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT. A 232203Z SSMI IMAGE INDICATES THAT
THE LLCC HAS BECOME MORE VERTICALLY ALIGNED OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS
DUE TO DECREASING VERTICAL WIND SHEAR, WHICH IS CURRENTLY AT 10 TO
15 KNOTS. UPPER-LEVEL ANALYSIS INDICATES THAT THE LLCC IS LOCATED
UNDER THE SUBTROPICAL WITH ENHANCED POLEWARD OUTFLOW ENHANCED BY
THE STRONG WESTERLIES LOCATED TO THE SOUTH. SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES
IN THE AREA ARE FAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT AT 28 TO 30 DEGREES
CELSIUS. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED SURFACE WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 25 TO 30
KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1002 MB.
THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE
WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS HIGH.
3. THIS ALERT WILL BE REISSUED, UPGRADED TO WARNING OR CANCELLED
BY 250230Z.//





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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


how does the tropical cyclone advisory deal works with JTWC or whoever does it over there?


I'm not really sure. I think it is the Regional Specialized Meteorological Center.
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Quoting goosegirl1:





Maybe this storm Link


By their criteria, they made the announcement of naming winter storms on October 2, so there was not enough time to name this one.

Yeah, that's the one. Thanks for finding it.
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96S:

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Quoting Civicane49:


Definitely stronger than 30 kts.


how does the tropical cyclone advisory deal works with JTWC or whoever does it over there?
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Quoting goosegirl1:





Maybe this storm Link


By their criteria, they made the announcement of naming winter storms on October 2, so there was not enough time to name this one.


agreed!
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Quoting wxchaser97:

It's not at 30kts anymore.


Definitely stronger than 30 kts based on satellite image.
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Quoting wxchaser97:

It's not at 30kts anymore.


I'll say nearing hurricane strength...and getting stronger fast since the eye is forming
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Quoting AussieStorm:

Maybe it was to soon after they decided to start naming winter storms.


that could also be the issue..good point

they weren't sure when to stick in the fork
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Quoting AussieStorm:

Nope, before Brutus and Athena.




Maybe this storm Link


By their criteria, they made the announcement of naming winter storms on October 2, so there was not enough time to name this one.
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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


surprising little storm...

It's not at 30kts anymore.
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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


well...they named Brutus there too. Not all the storms are in the eastern seaboard.

Maybe it was to soon after they decided to start naming winter storms.
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Quoting srqthymesage:
Ya suppose we might even access the other 90% between our ears? I claim skepticism too, BTW. Thanks for the diversion!


Sadly, the idea that we only use 10% of our brains is also untrue (Snopes article written by Benjamin Radford, Managing Editor of the Skeptical Inquirer).
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Yeah. It was visible on microwave imagery earlier.


surprising little storm...
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Quoting AtHomeInTX:


Hi Allen. I'm doing fine. Hope you are as well. :) Just been keeping crazy hours lately. Not a lot going on here weather-wise. It has been beautiful here for the most part. As long as we don't slip too far into the drought again.
That is good to hear.hope drought conditions don`t develop.I hope you enjoy your thanksgiving day yesterday.
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Quoting goosegirl1:



Try again :) this one? Link

If it still doesn't work, it is a link to twc referring to winter storm Brutus.


got it thks
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Quoting AussieStorm:


But it did drop 20' of snow. Sure the population isn't high in those states but it would be disruptive. Also on Weatherbrains when Brian Norcross was on, he also explained that they would mainly name systems that would effect the east coast. So I guess a system only effecting the NW wouldn't make that criteria also.


well...they named Brutus there too. Not all the storms are in the eastern seaboard.
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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
Nice looking SW indian storm
can't believe the sun is out there already when it was here 7 hours ago


is it developing an eye???!!

Yeah. It was visible on microwave imagery earlier.
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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
Nice looking SW indian storm
can't believe the sun is out there already when it was here 7 hours ago


is it developing an eye???!!


It appears to be.

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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


broken link



Try again :) this one? Link

If it still doesn't work, it is a link to twc referring to winter storm Brutus.
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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


There is no much population there...most f the snow fell on the tall mountanous terrains so there wasn't much travel disruption or threatening of any (big...if any) cities

I don't know why either but here people were saying about naming Sandy Athena...sort of like Santhena...many people also said that this naming thing was confusing anyway thus NWS doesn't care about it


But it did drop 20' of snow. Sure the population isn't high in those states but it would be disruptive. Also on Weatherbrains when Brian Norcross was on, he also explained that they would mainly name systems that would effect the east coast. So I guess a system only effecting the NW wouldn't make that criteria also.
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Nice looking SW indian storm
can't believe the sun is out there already when it was here 7 hours ago


is it developing an eye???!!
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Quoting goosegirl1:



This one? Link

Nope, before Brutus and Athena.
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Quoting goosegirl1:



This one? Link


broken link
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Quoting AussieStorm:

There was a winter storm effecting MT, ND, SD, WY. Just after Sandy and before Athena.



This one? Link
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Quoting AussieStorm:

There was a winter storm effecting MT, ND, SD, WY. Just after Sandy and before Athena.


There is no much population there...most f the snow fell on the tall mountanous terrains so there wasn't much travel disruption or threatening of any (big...if any) cities

I don't know why either but here people were saying about naming Sandy Athena...sort of like Santhena...many people also said that this naming thing was confusing anyway thus NWS doesn't care about it
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Quoting sunlinepr:
Queens - Rockaway residents getting that sink-ing feeling
Dangerous sinkholes opening up in Arverne section of peninsula, locals fear street collapse
Comments (2) By Lisa L. Colangelo And Irving Dejohn / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, November 19, 2012, 5:4

Rockaway resident Adolfo Richter, 67, surveys a sinkhole in the backyard of his house on Beach 68th St. Residents have noticed a cluster of similar holes on their properties, causing alarm that the street may collapse. Officials with the city Department of Environmental Protection told the Daily News they plan to investigate.

If lack of power and flood damage wasn’t enough, some Rockaway residents are getting the sinking suspicion that the ground just might literally cave in underneath them.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/sinkhol e-cluster-rockaways-article-1.1204771#ixzz2D6zFQ9e 5


- Giant sinkholes a problem in Queens after Sandy
Tuesday, November 20, 2012

NEW YORK (WABC) -- First they were flooded by Hurricane Sandy and now they're being swallowed by sinkholes.

Some of the sinkholes are 10 feet deep in Queens.

Residents are worried about further damage to their homes and whether the ground their standing on could literally cave and crumble.

Link


wow... that's like the dessert after the main course
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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:


Don't remember..

are you talking about Sandy? if so that storm is already named..why wasting Athena for it?

There was a winter storm effecting MT, ND, SD, WY. Just after Sandy and before Athena.

Why would TWC rename an already named system, that would be confusing.
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Quoting luvtogolf:


Yes he does, all the time.

No, he isn't bad actually. If you don't like him, there is the handy dandy ignore button.
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Queens - Rockaway residents getting that sink-ing feeling
Dangerous sinkholes opening up in Arverne section of peninsula, locals fear street collapse
Comments (2) By Lisa L. Colangelo And Irving Dejohn / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, November 19, 2012, 5:4

Rockaway resident Adolfo Richter, 67, surveys a sinkhole in the backyard of his house on Beach 68th St. Residents have noticed a cluster of similar holes on their properties, causing alarm that the street may collapse. Officials with the city Department of Environmental Protection told the Daily News they plan to investigate.

If lack of power and flood damage wasn’t enough, some Rockaway residents are getting the sinking suspicion that the ground just might literally cave in underneath them.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/sinkhol e-cluster-rockaways-article-1.1204771#ixzz2D6zFQ9e 5


- Giant sinkholes a problem in Queens after Sandy
Tuesday, November 20, 2012

NEW YORK (WABC) -- First they were flooded by Hurricane Sandy and now they're being swallowed by sinkholes.

Some of the sinkholes are 10 feet deep in Queens.

Residents are worried about further damage to their homes and whether the ground their standing on could literally cave and crumble.

Link
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Quoting AussieStorm:

Just like how they didn't name the winter storm before Athena.


Don't remember..

are you talking about Sandy? if so that storm is already named..why wasting Athena for it?
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