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A tranquil and record-warm Thanksgiving for much of the U.S.
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 5:35 PM GMT on November 23, 2012 +36
Celebrations of the Thanksgiving holiday in the United States in 2012 were aided by some of the most tranquil travel weather ever seen on what is America's busiest travel week. Unusually warm and precipitation-free conditions prevailed over almost the entire nation on Wednesday and Thursday, with many locations in the Midwest reporting their warmest Thanksgiving Day on record. At least three cities set records for their warmest temperature ever recorded so late in the year: Valentine, Nebraska (76° on Wednesday); Rochester, Minnesota (70° on Wednesday); and Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan (65° on Thursday.) While the quiet weather was a boon for travelers, the lack of rain in the Midwest allowed the nation's worst drought since 1954 to expand; the U.S. Drought Monitor reported that the area of the contiguous U.S. covered by moderate or greater drought expanded by 1% to 60% this week. This reversed a seven-week trend of slowly decreasing drought that began on September 25 and extended until November 13, when the area covered by drought declined from 65% to 59%. The latest ten-day forecasts from the GFS and ECMWF models show much below average chances of precipitation across more 90% of the U.S., including the drought regions. These dry conditions will allow the drought to expand over the next two weeks, and potentially cover 65% of the contiguous U.S. again by mid-December. The next chance for significant rains in excess of one inch in the Midwest will not occur until December 2, at the earliest. The lack of rain will potentially cause serious trouble for barge traffic on the Mississippi River by December 10, when the river may fall below the level of -5 feet at St. Louis needed to allow barges to not scrape bottom.


Figure 1. This week's U.S. Drought Monitor shows 60% of the contiguous U.S. was in moderate or greater drought.


Figure 2. Predicted 8-day precipitation amounts from the 06Z (1 am EST) November 23, 2012 run of the GFS model. For the 8-day period ending on Saturday, December 1, only the Northwest Coast, Central Gulf Coast, and portions of the Tennessee Valley are predicted to receive rains in excess of one inch. Image credit: NOAA.

Quiet in the Atlantic
There are no threat areas in the Atlantic to discuss today, and none of the reliable models is forecasting tropical cyclone development between now and the Friday, November 30 official end of hurricane season. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of one more named storm forming in December in the middle Atlantic between Bermuda and Puerto Rico, but late-season storms forming in that location rarely affect land.

Have a great holiday weekend, everyone!

Jeff Masters
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551. yoboi 3:17 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting KoritheMan:


Let me try and simplify this for you as plainly as I can. If you still don't understand, I'll try again. Wunderground's severe weather page is not an indicator of the severity of a particular event. The enumeration in question is only meant to illuminate ongoing weather advisories/bulletins. It is not meant to classify non-severe events (which have their own specific criterion for classification) like dense fog under the false pretense of "severe weather". This particular phrase was never intended to be used as an umbrella term to encompass literally every form of dangerous weather. Feel free to do that yourself, but it doesn't make things any more conforming to your opinion.

Yes, fog is dangerous. But so is almost every single weather event. Will you categorize them as "severe" as well? What you're doing is taking your own definition of what you believe should constitute "severe weather", and trying to apply it in real-time to something that's bound to happen again. That's called a fallacy.

To summarize, yes, the severe weather page on this site is reliable. But that's because it relays information directly from the National Weather Service. In other words, the bulletins you refer to are bound by the technicalities set forth by this wonderful governmental entity. I don't make the rules, I'm just trying to lay them out for you. If you have a beef with this whole thing, take up with the National Weather Service.


the uk considers it a severe weather event and when i click on severe weather link on this site dense fog is shown they also say severe weather overlay with fog....so to me they consider it severe also
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552. Dragod66 3:17 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
well lets look at the reverse of fog... is really dry air severe?... Chapped lips!!!!!!!!
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553. AussieStorm 3:21 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    


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554. Bluestorm5 3:22 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting yoboi:


the uk considers it a severe weather event and when i click on severe weather link on this site dense fog is shown they also say severe weather overlay with fog....so to me they consider it severe also
FOG... IS... NOT... CONSIDERED... A... SEVERE... WEATHER...
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555. wxchaser97 3:23 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting Dragod66:
well lets look at the reverse of fog... is really dry air severe?... Chapped lips!!!!!!!!

Or lets look at dew, it got my shoes wet!
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556. AussieStorm 3:24 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting Bielle:


Being a debate does not, even if true, necessarily preclude monomania: one is a method; the other, content. But whatever you say, sonny. ;)


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557. Bielle 3:27 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting KoritheMan:


If this is monomania, so are all the global warming debates we have during the off season.

Now sit back and watch, you killjoy. :P


True -not relevant in the moment, but true nonetheless. What I have managed to do is to get you and yoboi arguing (debating) on the same side against me. Reminds me of the consequences of interfering in a domestic disturbance. Don't let me be your killjoy. Monomania away!
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558. Dragod66 4:02 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting wxchaser97:

Or lets look at dew, it got my shoes wet!


that stuff is slippery... it probably kills more people in the states every year than fog!
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559. VAbeachhurricanes 4:03 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Is fog weather? Yes.

Can you have severe fog? Yes.

So you can have fog as severe weather...
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560. Skyepony (Mod) 4:05 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
HAVANA, Nov. 24 (Xinhua) -- Cuba will host an international conference next May to discuss the effects of hurricane Sandy and issues related to climate change, the official news agency Prensa Latina said on Saturday.

The Sixth International Conference on the Comprehensive Management of Coastal Areas will be held next May in the eastern city of Santiago de Cuba, which was most devastated by Sandy late last month, said the report, quoting Dr. Ofelia Perez, director of the Center for Multidisciplinary Studies on Coastal Areas (Cemzoc) of the University of Oriente.

The conference will be "a bright opportunity to study the complex circumstances associated to the course of the devastating cyclone in the region," said Perez.

He added that the main issue to be discussed during the meeting will be the integration for the sustainability of coastal ecosystems against climate change.

Perez said that experts from Mexico, Venezuela, Canada, Colombia, Uruguay, Spain, France and Brazil have expressed their interest in attending the conference, which will also cover social, health and environment studies linked to global warming.

Hurricane Sandy, which was considered "historic" by the local meteorologists, hit eastern Cuba on Oct. 25, devastating the city of Santiago de Cuba and leaving 11 people dead.

Over 130,000 houses collapsed in the hurricane disaster, which also caused economic losses of more than 100 million U.S. dollars for the island nation.
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561. CaicosRetiredSailor 4:16 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
I highly recommend reading the blog by Bryan Norcross

Uncovering the lessons of Sandy


...Also, we now know that an untold number of New York City firefighters and policemen stayed in their homes near the water, only to end up leaving in the middle of the storm in a nightmare evacuation... lashing family members together to hang on through the raging water. These are people that understand that really bad crap happens in the world. You'd think that an NYC firefighter, if anybody, would have taken action to protect his family if he understood that the ocean was going to come surging through the house. That was exactly the forecast, but that, obviously, did not come through in the messaging.



http://www.wunderground.com/blog/bnorcross/show.h tml?entrynum=26
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562. ScottLincoln 4:17 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting aspectre:
PensacolaDoug:
364 ScottLincoln: Yep, still near record lows for this time of year.


Given his predilection, I suspect PensacolaDoug was comparing the difference in continental snow cover.


And eyeballing two images remains a poor way to identify trends for snow cover, as well...
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563. Barefootontherocks 4:34 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting yoboi:


it's under severe weather link ya can try and spin it all ya want...

yoboi,
Want you to know I see what you mean about the dropdown menu for "Severe weather" on Wu. The menu even includes hurricanes. The "U.S. severe alert map" seems to include all the advisories issued by NWS.

Here's a wu radar map from the Fort Polk NWS radar. When I clicked "Show Severe" it made an opaque white color over counties that have a "Winter Weather Statement" in effect. Below this map is the Winter Weather Statement for one of those areas.

Seems to me what this discussion has been about is different meanings of the word "Severe" to different bloggers, different websites, different types of mass media in different parts of the world.. As I said this morning, to me "Severe Weather" is thunderstorm related. I think (edit) also includes anything for which a watch or warning can be issued - e.g. fire, winter, flood. At wu, apparently something as simple as danger to tender vegetation applies. (And I do appreciate it when my NWS office issues those advisories so I know when to bring outdoor plants in.)

This is another example of how the meteorological community, including media mets, could make some changes, set worldwide standards, whatever. Kinda like naming storms. Don't be arbitrary. Give us some criteria that make sense and communicate more clearly to the general public. The way this website's severe weather link reads, severe could be an EF5 tornado or simply what's gonna kill your aloe if you leave it on the front porch. I think it's wrong to include an advisory like this on a radar map link meant to depict "Severe Weather." Maybe wu could rethink that and use a different click spot for everything except watches and warnings. Or not.
:)



Sabine
Freeze Warning
Statement as of 9:35 PM CST on November 24, 2012

... Freeze warning now in effect until 8 am CST Sunday...

* event... Canadian high pressure will continue to dominate the
four state region tonight with the center of the surface high
just to the east. Mostly clear skies and near calm winds will
allow for minimum temperatures to drop near or just below
freezing across most of the region on Sunday morning.

* Timing... freezing temperatures are expected late tonight
through around sunrise on Sunday morning.

* Impact... tender vegetation will be susceptible to cold related
damage. Additionally... pet owners may need to take precautions
to protect outdoor pets.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

A freeze warning means sub-freezing temperatures are imminent or
highly likely. These conditions will kill crops and other
sensitive vegetation.


ADD: Nov 25. Crops, this could be a "severe" situation. Froma damage point of view, extended drought sure is.
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564. AussieStorm 4:37 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
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565. txjac 4:40 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting AussieStorm:


How long does this go on for? it seems like you guys have been dealing with for some time now.
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566. bappit 4:44 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
I don't know what they are up to.
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567. Skyepony (Mod) 4:48 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    

It's still feast or famine with a high anchored on Greenland.
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568. Skyepony (Mod) 4:50 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
OSCAT
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569. beell 4:51 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting bappit:
I don't know what they are up to.


you must be quite pleased with yourself, Mr. bappit.
;-}
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570. bappit 4:58 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Actually, no. More like mystified.
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571. beell 5:00 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Just as good, lol!
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572. trHUrrIXC5MMX 5:07 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
finally i can get back into the blog...broken again....
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573. Skyepony (Mod) 5:10 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
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574. AussieStorm 5:14 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting txjac:


How long does this go on for? it seems like you guys have been dealing with for some time now.

It's that time of year for us. Will end around April.
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575. Skyepony (Mod) 5:17 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
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577. Bielle 5:20 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
finally i can get back into the blog...broken again....


William at support has written to say that the problem is with me and my failure to clear my browser caches. I pointed him to one section of 100 posts in which 14 separate people were complaining of exactly the same error message in all manner of browsers (cleared and not) and from all over the world. I haven't heard anything back since, and the problem is not fixed. If you want some action on the matter, I suggest you also write in.
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578. hydrus 5:37 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting Skyepony:
Looks like a video game from the 80,s Skye..:)
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579. AussieStorm 5:42 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    


Copy & Paste..... Copy & Paste .......

Copy & Paste..... Copy & Paste .......

Copy & Paste..... Copy & Paste .......

Copy & Paste..... Copy & Paste .......
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580. Skyepony (Mod) 5:45 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting hydrus:
Looks like a video game from the 80,s Skye..:)


I didn't even think of Frogger..lol.

I was taken with how the Kelvin waves have been dying sooner & farther west through time.
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581. Some1Has2BtheRookie 5:45 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:

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OK folks... confession time, tell us:

anything you might have done that may have caused the error.



Oops! I tripped over the power cable to the WU's router. ... I'll get it. ...... Better? ... Oops! I need to flush the router's dns cache too. .... Be right back.
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582. Some1Has2BtheRookie 5:46 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Better?
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583. AussieStorm 5:48 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting Skyepony:


End of December the BOM is expecting a jump of the MJO which will kick off the NAMS.
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584. hydrus 5:52 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting Skyepony:


I didn't even think of Frogger..lol.

I was taken with how the Kelvin waves have been dying sooner & farther west through time.
Probably why Nino has not made the official spot for so long...Sign of things to come I believe.
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585. Barefootontherocks 5:57 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
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586. Xyrus2000 7:03 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting EstherD:



Just finished an interesting foray into Newton's occult studies. Knew that Newton was heavily into stuff like alchemy, but didn't know he also worked on prophetic interpretation of the Bible. A very enjoyable diversion for a slow afternoon, so thanks for the info!


Actually, the next apocalypse will happen in 2038. More precisely, 03:14:07 UTC on Tuesday, 19 January 2038. This is when internal clocks of 32 bit OS's will run out, flipping back to 1/1/1970.

Well, it's not really an apocalypse, but many a nerd and geek will sigh in nostalgia at the passing of that date. :)
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587. Xyrus2000 7:17 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting Grothar:


So that's where it ended up! I always wondered what happened to it.


Grothar, you need to keep better track of your toys.
Do you remember what happened when you lost the Ark of The Covenant? It took 4000 years for some guy in a dusty leather jacket to find the damn thing again. And even when he found it, he had to fight off a bunch of Nazis for it. The thing ended up melting people, so the government locked it up in warehouse where you won't be able to play with it anymore.

And don't get me started on Noah's Ark. How you manage to lose a giant wooden ship capable of holding two of every animal on Earth I'll never know. And poor Noah wouldn't even have needed to build it in the first place if you had made sure your sink faucet was turned off.

;)
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588. HadesGodWyvern 7:19 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #7
FORTE TEMPETE TROPICALE BOLDWIN (03-20122013)
10:30 AM RET November 25 2012
=======================================

At 6:00 AM UTC, Severe Tropical Storm Boldwin (992 hPa) located at 14.5S 73.2E has 10 minute sustained winds of 50 knots with gusts of 70 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west southwest at 8 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T3.0/3.5/W1.0/12 HRS

Storm Force Winds
==================
20 NM radius from the center extending up to 25 NM in the southern semi-circle

Gale Force Winds
===============
30 NM radius from the center extending up to 50 NM in the southwestern quadrant and up to 70 NM in the southeastern quadrant

Near Gale Force Winds
======================
60 NM radius from the center, extending up to 90 NM in the southwestern quadrant and up to 120 NM in the southeastern quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
=======================
24 HRS: 15.3S 71.2E - 35 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modérée)
48 HRS: 16.8S 67.5E - 30 knots (Depression Tropicale)
72 HRS: 22.5S 66.9E - Depression Se Comblant

Additional Information
========================
In the south of the upper level ridge axis, vertical wind shear keeps on increasing near the center of Boldwin.

The low level circulation center has been re-localized northern and is now under the northwestern edge of the deep convective main cluster (SSMIS F18 0309 AM UTC and F17 0049 AM UTC).

This convective activity mainly exists in the southeastern quadrant but remains strong, well sustained by a rather good poleward upper level divergence.

Wind shear is expected to keeps on increasing slowly over the next 12 hours then more sharply as the system will undergo the influence of an approaching upper level trough.

System is therefore expected to keeps on weakening within the next 36 hours as it tracks west southwestwards under the steering influence of the subtropical high pressures. On and after tau 48 system should track towards a polar trough transiting in its south, and turn southwards and then south southeastward.
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589. EstherD 7:30 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting Xyrus2000:


Actually, the next apocalypse will happen in 2038. More precisely, 03:14:07 UTC on Tuesday, 19 January 2038. This is when internal clocks of 32 bit OS's will run out, flipping back to 1/1/1970.

Well, it's not really an apocalypse, but many a nerd and geek will sigh in nostalgia at the passing of that date. :)


Think it's quite likely that my clock will have run out long before then. But ya never know. In any case, there is at least one nice thing about being an old, retired UNIX guru... At least I won't be sittin' in the hot seat for that one the way I was for Y2K. :)
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590. PensacolaDoug 7:35 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting ScottLincoln:


And eyeballing two images remains a poor way to identify trends for snow cover, as well...




Ya seem stuck on an image. Ya off yer meds or something?

32.5 On da bayou at this moment.
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591. trHUrrIXC5MMX 8:03 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting Allan012:


Ryan, I told you that the server was going to be acting up like it has, these past few days...


who's Ryan?
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592. yonzabam 9:44 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
More flooding misery for the UK, although not as bad as it might have been.

Wettest summer here in Scotland for 100 years, and it just keeps falling.

The usual path of the jet stream has altered in recent years, bringing unusual and extreme weather to many regions. The most extreme effects have been the record Russian heat wave of 2010 and the record Pakistani floods that year.

The jet stream is weakening, probably due to the 'arctic dipole', which itself is probably being caused by the record Arctic ocean ice melt. This causes its meandering 'loops' to move further south.

The jet stream is emerging as an early 'joker in the pack' in climate change, causing unexpected changes to regional weather patterns.


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593. SunriseSteeda 10:40 AM GMT on November 25, 2012    
I don't like this time of year. Hitting refresh on this page does not necessarily yield new things to read.
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594. yonzabam 12:05 PM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Video of flooding in UK last night


Link
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595. bohonkweatherman 12:40 PM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Good Morning World, 75 and Sunny today, 82 and Sunny Monday, very mild here so far this year and no rain in 2 months. Have a great day!
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596. Tropicsweatherpr 12:48 PM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Good morning.

The weather in Puerto Rico will be very good this week with plenty of sun and cooler temperatures.
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597. bohonkweatherman 12:53 PM GMT on November 25, 2012    
How dry is it here:

As we near the end of the month, the 7-day forecast holds a couple of slim chances for a few drops in the bucket – but a completely dry November is starting to look like a bleak possibility.

If we do end the month with 0.00″ of rain at Camp Mabry, this will only be the 4th such occurrence since records began in 1856, and the first time in over a century:

Camp Mabry’s Driest Novembers:

November 1861 – 0.00″

November 1894 – 0.00″

November 1897 – 0.00″

November 2012
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598. LargoFl 12:57 PM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Good Morning Folks!..cold here this morning............
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599. LargoFl 12:59 PM GMT on November 25, 2012    
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600. Neapolitan 1:07 PM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Since it's a little slow this Sunday morning, I thought I'd mention that WU Weather Historian Christopher C. Burt has a very interesting new blog post out, Same-Day Record High and Low Temperatures. In it, he details many instances of phenomenal short-term temperature swings, such as:

"On November 11, 1911 the most extreme cold front in U.S. meteorological records swept quickly across the Great Plains and Midwest. Kansas City, Missouri fell from 76° to 11° in 12 hours. Oklahoma City fell from 83° to 17° and Springfield, Missouri from 80° to 13°. In all three cases the cities recorded both their record high and record low temperature on November 11th."

Burt's blog posts are always a great read, and this one is no exception. If you can tear yourself away from the riveting "Fog is severe weather!" arguments, go have a look... ;-)
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601. Neapolitan 1:11 PM GMT on November 25, 2012    
Quoting bohonkweatherman:
How dry is it here:

As we near the end of the month, the 7-day forecast holds a couple of slim chances for a few drops in the bucket – but a completely dry November is starting to look like a bleak possibility.

If we do end the month with 0.00″ of rain at Camp Mabry, this will only be the 4th such occurrence since records began in 1856, and the first time in over a century:

Camp Mabry’s Driest Novembers:

November 1861 – 0.00″

November 1894 – 0.00″

November 1897 – 0.00″

November 2012
Unfortunately--or fortunately, depending on one's point of view--the CPC isn't calling for much different for you over either the 6-10 day period:

CPC
CPC

...or the 8-14 day period:
CPC
CPC
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