First Hurricane Sandy, now Winter Storm Athena for the Eastern U.S.

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:57 PM GMT on November 07, 2012

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Winter Storm Warnings are up for Southwest New Jersey, Northern Delaware, and Southeast Pennsylvania, including Philadelphia, PA, where Winter Storm Athena is expected to drop 3 - 5" of snow today through Thursday morning. Slushy accumulations of up to 1" are likely in Baltimore, and non-accumulating snow will fall as far south as Washington, DC. Athena, the season's first Nor'easter and first winter storm to get a name under The Weather Channel's new naming system, is spreading rain and high winds into Southern New Jersey and Eastern Long Island, NY this morning. Winds at buoy 44025, about 40 miles offshore from the coast of Central New Jersey, reached 40 mph, gusting to 49 mph, with a significant wave height of 14', at noon EST. Winds at Nantucket, MA have gusted as high as 54 mph this morning. Athena is building a storm surge that has already reached 2.2' at Atlantic City and 1.8' at New York City as of noon EST. A storm surge of 2 - 3.5' is likely along the section of coast most heavily damaged by Sandy's storm surge, and battering waves up to 20' high will cause moderate beach erosion along much of the New Jersey and New York shoreline. The storm surge will cause minor to moderate flooding during this afternoon's high tide cycle near 1 pm EST, and again at the next high tide, near 1 am EST Thursday morning. Fortunately, the high tides this week will be some of the lowest of the month, since we are midway between the new moon and full moon. Wind gusts from Athena will likely reach 50 mph along the coasts of New Jersey and Southern Long Island, NY, and could hit 60 mph on Cape Cod, Massachusetts. I expect that Athena's winds, rains, and wet, heavy snows will cause up to 50,000 new power outages today. As of early Wednesday morning, 676,000 customers were still without power in the wake of Hurricane Sandy (down from a peak of 8.5 million customers.)


Figure 1. Winter Storm Athena as seen at 9:01 am EST November 7, 2012. Image credit: NOAA/GSFC.


Figure 2. Predicted storm surge at Sandy Hook, NJ, for Winter Storm Athena, from the experimental Extratropical Storm Surge model, run by NOAA's Meteorological Development Laboratory. This model used winds from this morning's 6Z (1 am EDT) run of the GFS model. The peak storm surge (yellowish-brown line) is predicted to be 3.4', occurring Wednesday evening. High tide (green line) occurs near 1 pm Wednesday afternoon, resulting in a peak storm tide of approximately 7.2' around 1 pm Wednesday (black line). For comparison, Sandy delivered a 8.6' storm surge to Sandy Hook before their tide gauge failed, with the storm tide reaching 13.2' above MLLW (Mean Lower Low Water.)

The decision to name Athena
The Weather Channel announced in October that they would begin naming winter storms this year, in an effort to aid in raising awareness and reduce the risks the public faces. One of the main criteria for naming a storm is its impact on populated areas; the meteorology of the storm may not get it named, if the storm doesn't affect a populated area. If Hurricane Sandy had not devastated the region of coast being affected by today's Winter Storm Athena, it may not have gotten a name. With so many people still under recovery efforts even well inland, the combination of heavy, wet snow and wind prompted the decision to name Athena. The models have been trending towards more cold air getting pulled into this system, so it is possible Athena could drop heavier snows than currently advertised. The National Weather Service will not be referring to today's Nor'easter as "Athena". They put out this internal directive: "The NWS does not use named winter storms in our products. Please refrain from using the term Athena in any of our products."

Here are the peak wind gusts from Athena as of 11 am EST on Wednesday, November 7, 2012:



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Mike Seidel
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How surreal is this? Snowfall on the temporary dune built just 9 days after Sandy wiped out the previous dune line. pic.twitter.com/4BxYr9wC
11:12pm Wed Nov 07

By: Mike Seidel @mikeseidel
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Quoting CosmicEvents:
Burger king delivers where I live. Are you located in the US?


Not in Palm Beach County. They do in Miami/Dade.
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


That would be cool if they delivered.
Burger king delivers where I live. Are you located in the US?
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SEUS71 PAAQ 080204
EQIWOC

TSUNAMI SEISMIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NWS WEST COAST/ALASKA TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER PALMER AK
604 PM PST WED NOV 7 2012

...THIS IS A TSUNAMI INFORMATION STATEMENT...


EVALUATION
----------
* AN EARTHQUAKE HAS OCCURRED - A TSUNAMI IS NOT EXPECTED.


PRELIMINARY EARTHQUAKE PARAMETERS
---------------------------------
* MAGNITUDE 6.3
* ORIGIN TIME 1702 AKST NOV 07 2012
1802 PST NOV 07 2012
0202 UTC NOV 08 2012
* COORDINATES 49.3 NORTH 128.4 WEST
* DEPTH 27 MILES
* LOCATION 85 MILES SW OF PORT ALICE BRITISH COLUMBIA
305 MILES NW OF SEATTLE WASHINGTON


NEXT UPDATE AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
--------------------------------------
* THIS WILL BE THE ONLY WCATWC MESSAGE ISSUED FOR THIS EVENT.

* THE EARTHQUAKE PARAMETERS ARE BASED ON PRELIMINARY INFORMATION.

* FURTHER INFORMATION WILL BE ISSUED BY THE UNITED STATES
GEOLOGICAL SURVEY - EARTHQUAKE.USGS.GOV - OR THE APPROPRIATE
REGIONAL SEISMIC NETWORK.

$$




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Staten Island webcam



WU Map with more webcams
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Quoting wxchaser97:

I can't go out and drive myself, only have a learners permit.


Oh I see.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
The Weather Channel stated that the major winter storm in the West may require a name shortly as well. If so, it would be called Brutus.


I guess I can throw out my bottle of ipecac.
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Quoting JrWeathermanFL:
If I hear the words superstorm or megastorm etc. to name a storm ever again, im gonna flip.


Honestly this is the first time I've heard them use the term since 1993 when "Superstorm '93" hit the East Coast
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Quoting Bluestorm5:
You know, I think this naming system is a great idea if NWS would support it. I am having fun using the name Athena.
Me too I really like it.
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If I hear the words superstorm or megastorm etc. to name a storm ever again, im gonna flip.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
The Weather Channel stated that the major winter storm in the West may require a name shortly as well. If so, it would be called Brutus.
You know, I think this naming system is a great idea if NWS would support it. I am having fun using the name Athena.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
The Weather Channel stated that the major winter storm in the West may require a name shortly as well. If so, it would be called Brutus.
OMG two in the same day.
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The Weather Channel stated that the major winter storm in the West may require a name shortly as well. If so, it would be called Brutus.
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Tonight's MLS game have been delayed until tomorrow because of Athena.



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Quoting KoritheMan:


Yes.


Looks like quite the candidate for Valerie. I think that Mark Ronson song featuring Amy Whinehouse is going to be in my head until she manifests.
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Earthquake Details

This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.
Magnitude
6.3 (Preliminary magnitude — update expected within 15 minutes)
Date-Time
Thursday, November 08, 2012 at 02:01:51 UTC
Wednesday, November 07, 2012 at 06:01:51 PM at epicenter
Location
49.299°N, 128.439°W
Depth
43 km (26.7 miles) set by location program
Region
VANCOUVER ISLAND, CANADA REGION
Distances
168 km (104 miles) SSW (204°) from Port Hardy, BC, Canada
243 km (151 miles) WSW (253°) from Campbell River, British Columbia, Canada
298 km (186 miles) WNW (292°) from Neah Bay, WA
380 km (236 miles) WNW (286°) from Saanich, British Columbia, Canada
385 km (239 miles) W (272°) from Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Location Uncertainty
Error estimate not available
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Quoting LostTomorrows:
Is that the possible cyclone the models have been calling?

Link


Yes.
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Is that the possible cyclone the models have been calling?

Link
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Quoting Neapolitan:
They aren't willing (or able) to differentiate between the bad things that network does (too many reality-type shows) and the good things (great storm coverage), so rather than compare each of TWC's actions on its own merits, they simply demonize everything.


If it stops another "Stormzilla" I might really get behind that.



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The nor'easter's center can be seen pretty clearly to the SE of Long Island on radar.

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Verizon Wireless Waives Billing For Some Sandy Victims
Serdar Yegulalp, BYTE | November 07, 2012 04:17 PM

Category: Smartphones

In a gesture of noblesse oblige, Verizon has stated that customers in "portions of New York and New Jersey" -- those affected by Hurricane Sandy  -- "will not be billed usage charges for domestic voice and text usage incurred between October 29th and November 16th 2012."

The waiving of fees is automatic. Verizon customers do not need to take any action.

Residents of the following areas are eligible:

New York:  Bronx County, Kings County, Nassau County, New York County, Putnam County, Queens County, Richmond County, Rockland County, Suffolk County, and Westchester County

New Jersey: Atlantic City, Bergen County, Burlington County, Camden County, Cape May County, Cumberland County, Essex County, Gloucester County, Hudson County, Hunterdon County, Mercer County, Middlesex County, Monmouth County, Morris County, Ocean County, Passaic County, Salem County, Somerset County, Sussex County, Union County, and Warren County.

Credit is being provided not by refunds, but by simply having no usage charges listed for voice or text activity during the time period in question. Customers who have signed up for usage alerts may still receive spurious warnings that they are near or over their voice or text allotment, but these have no impact on the waiver.

Those not in any of the above areas can call 1-800-922-0204 and ask for a waiver "on a case-by-case basis."
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NYC is at low tide right now, but the surge appears to be at about 3 feet and trending ever so slightly up.

The Battery Tide and Pressure
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Quoting sfranz:
It still seems that the kerfuffle is more that NOAA didn't get to participate than a problem with the concept of names.
I think it's partly that, but I also think much of the complaining is from people who just don't like the Weather Channel. They aren't willing (or able) to differentiate between the bad things that network does (too many reality-type shows) and the good things (great storm coverage), so rather than compare each of TWC's actions on its own merits, they simply demonize everything.

I'll say this much: if TWC's goal in naming some winter storms was to garner publicity and interest, posting hundreds of comments about how wrong you think they are is a surefire way to ensure they continue doing it. ;-)
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Snowing like heck in Connecticut:
Statement as of 7:53 PM EST on November 07, 2012
The following are unofficial observations taken during the current storm that has been affecting our region. Appreciation is extended to Highway departments... cooperative observers... Skywarn spotters and media for these reports. This summary is also available on our home Page at weather.Gov/NYC

********************storm total snowfall********************

Location storm total time/date comments
snowfall of
/inches/ measurement

Connecticut

... Fairfield County...
Danbury 7.1 700 PM 11/07 trained spotter
Ridgefield 5.5 500 PM 11/07 public
Brookfield 5.0 510 PM 11/07 public
Bridgeport 4.0 700 PM 11/07 NWS coop
Stratford 3.5 519 PM 11/07 broadcast media
New Fairfield 3.0 230 PM 11/07 broadcast media
Monroe 3.0 220 PM 11/07 public
Redding 3.0 645 PM 11/07 amateur radio
Norwalk 3.0 635 PM 11/07 public

... Middlesex County...
Middletown 5.0 707 PM 11/07 amateur radio
Durham 4.5 510 PM 11/07 broadcast media

... New Haven County...
Clintonville 8.0 645 PM 11/07 trained spotter
Meriden 7.0 713 PM 11/07 trained spotter
Wallingford 6.5 520 PM 11/07 trained spotter
North Haven 6.0 540 PM 11/07 trained spotter
Hamden 6.0 635 PM 11/07 trained spotter
Oxford 6.0 645 PM 11/07 amateur radio
Wolcott 5.0 445 PM 11/07 broadcast media
New Haven 5.0 430 PM 11/07 public
Derby 4.0 418 PM 11/07 public
Naugatuck 3.5 325 PM 11/07 public
Ansonia 3.5 345 PM 11/07 broadcast media
Branford 3.0 531 PM 11/07 trained spotter
Guilford 3.0 515 PM 11/07 NWS employee
north brandford 3.0 230 PM 11/07 public
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Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:


Garden City, Long Island NY
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I'm like two miles from there. My sister just lost her power and LIPA told her that she is at the back of the line, behind the almost 200,000 who never even got their power back. So.. she will be in the cold for a while.

We still are seeing huge flashes outside and have the lights flickering.
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I also feel sorry for Dr. Masters who has to go along with the TWC naming winter weather bs. Oh well, small price to pay for a bigger stage and that has proven to be correct.
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Atmosphere in hurricane-battered New York grim as new storm hits
BY MICHELLE CONLIN, REUTERS November 8, 2012 9:10am
 
NEW YORK - At nighttime, high up in the apartment buildings that tower over New York's Rockaway Peninsula, it's so inky black inside that residents have to use their hands to feel their way along the concrete walls, inch by inch, to get up and down the stairs, over to their neighbors, or back to their front doors. The windowless passageways feel like a crypt, unnerving even the most hardened of residents.
 
For more than a week, ever since Superstorm Sandy turned their community into a beachfront dystopia, flattening cars, mangling the boardwalk, twisting their roads, and cutting off their power, these residents have made do.

They've walked up stairs, some as many as 13 flights, to the top of housing complexes like the Dayton Towers in Rockaway Park. They've watched their flashlights die, their toilets clog up, and their neighbors kids bawl a lot. They've lived without cellphones, stores, or showers, eating vacuum-packed, government-supplied ready-made meals of rubbery chicken and paste-like potatoes.
 
Now, as another storm began hammering through on Wednesday, dropping temperatures to freezing, they see the new reality getting only grimmer as they shiver in the Stygian dark with no heat.
 
"All my neighbors are still living here, old people, too, and it's getting cold," said marble-installer Eddie Romanoff, 33. "But we have nowhere else to go."
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Quoting AussieStorm:

Here is Brian Norcross on WeatherBrains a few weeks back on why TWC is going to name winter storms.



A very interesting video.

Brian makes one very good point: it seems that we have actually been naming larger winter storms ad hoc for a while - and most of the names have been really awful weather puns.

The issue of making weather information available through keywords and hashtags is legitimate.

Mobile media really is here to stay.

I can actually see some logic in searching for "Athena" vs "Stormageddon" or "Frankenstorm."

It might not be all bad to actually put some thought into the names, for a change.

It still seems that the kerfuffle is more that NOAA didn't get to participate than a problem with the concept of names.


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SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ
743 PM EST WED NOV 7 2012

NJZ008>010-012>015-019-020-026-027-080200-
MORRIS-HUNTERDON-SOMERSET-MIDDLESEX-WESTERN MONMOUTH-
EASTERN MONMOUTH-MERCER-NORTHWESTERN BURLINGTON-OCEAN-
COASTAL OCEAN-SOUTHEASTERN BURLINGTON-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...MORRISTOWN...FLEMINGTON...SOMERVILLE...
NEW BRUNSWICK...FREEHOLD...SANDY HOOK...TRENTON...MOORESTOWN...MOUNT HOLLY...JACKSON...LONG BEACH ISLAND...WHARTON STATE FOREST
743 PM EST WED NOV 7 2012

...AN AREA OF HEAVIER SNOW CONTINUES TO IMPACT THE REGION...

AT 7:30 PM, NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR AND SURFACE OBSERVATIONS INDICATED AN AREA OF HEAVIER SNOW OCCURRING FROM NEAR BURLINGTON COUNTY NORTHWARD TO SOMERSET COUNTY. THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS OF 3 TO 5 INCHES OF SNOW ACROSS OCEAN, MONMOUTH AND MIDDLESEX COUNTIES, WITH ROAD CONDITIONS SNOW COVERED AND VERY SLIPPERY.

THE WET CONSISTENCY OF THE SNOW WILL ALLOW IT TO STICK TO TREES AND POWER LINES, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME REPORTS OF SOME TREES BREAKING UNDER THE WEIGHT OF THE SNOW. THIS IS RESULTING IN SOME RENEWED POWER OUTAGES. THE VISIBILITY WILL BE REDUCED TO AROUND ONE-HALF OF A MILE AT TIMES. IF YOU NEED TO DRIVE, USE EXTRA CAUTION THROUGH THIS EVENING AS MANY ROADWAYS HAVE BECOME SNOW COVERED. IN AREAS THAT HAVE NOT SEEN AS MUCH HEAVIER SNOW, USE CAUTION ESPECIALLY ON BRIDGES AND OTHER ELEVATED SURFACES AS THESE TEND TO BECOME SLIPPERY FIRST.

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GORSE

gosh, sucks to be in New Jersey and New York right now.
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Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:


Garden City, Long Island NY
photo by Kimberly Orlic
via Tri-State Weather


like after 5 secs watching the pic I realized that fallen tree there on the left of the road...
I'm slow for certain things
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In honour of our TWC named storm..... Athena.

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calm most of the state

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377. vis0

Quoting Minnemike:
i wonder if the storm will intake much of that tropical moisture before moving out...
Great loop for teaching . VISUALLY how a 2nd dropping low feeds off another output.
Quoting Minnemike:
i wonder if the storm will intake much of that tropical moisture before moving out...

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Quoting caneswatch:


Why not?

I can't go out and drive myself, only have a learners permit.
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Quoting wxchaser97:

I was seriously thinking about that when I saw Burger King. Now I really want one, but I can't go out and get one:(


Why not?
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


That would be cool if they delivered.

That would be great for me. Food allergies allow me to eat only certain foods and Burger King is the only fast food place I can eat at.
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Garden City, Long Island NY
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Quoting goalexgo:
We are getting killed here in NJ. We need a Southwester, as opposed to a Noreaster. A Southwester is a warm, beautiful high pressure system from the South West.

What makes it even worse here is that they have given this storm a name. The dumbing down of America continues.


It's coming. "Semper in excretia sumus solim profundum variat" - we're always in the poop - only the depth varies.
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We are getting killed here in NJ. We need a Southwester, as opposed to a Noreaster. A Southwester is a warm, beautiful high pressure system from the South West.

What makes it even worse here is that they have given this storm a name. The dumbing down of America continues.
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We are getting killed here in NJ. We need a Southwester, as opposed to a Noreaster. A Southwester is a warm, beautiful high pressure system from the South West.

What makes it even worse here is that they have given this storm a name. The dumbing down of America continues.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Atlantic City, New Jersey, one of the hardest-hit cities during Superstorm Sandy, before sunset:


Yeah, that's about the last thing these people needed...
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Quoting wxchaser97:

I was seriously thinking about that when I saw Burger King. Now I really want one, but I can't go out and get one:(


That would be cool if they delivered.
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Quoting MontanaZephyr:


....

It's all just sophmoric silliness.


It's sophomoric.
And I went to a state school.
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Quoting caneswatch:


That doesn't sound too bad right about now lol

I was seriously thinking about that when I saw Burger King. Now I really want one, but I can't go out and get one:(
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Quoting Thundercloud01221991:
why isnt the storm that is hitting MT getting a name. It has a blizzard associated with it


Apparently a storm in MT doesn't merit a name - but c'mon, you can't be serious about complaining, right? I mean, its just going to freeze a few cows and inconvenience a few cowboys anyway, so why would TWC bother? The market just isn't there my friend...Its a fly-over state. Even if the storm's forecast 925-850 wind velocity field is going to be 5.7 standard deviations above climatology by Friday...hey, what's a 1 in a 1000+ event...if its only in Montana.
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Quoting AussieStorm:

Which means its very subjective.
A judgment call I wish TWC would clarify. Maybe they have and I am unaware of it.
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Hold the pickles, hold the lettuce, your posts will not upset us.....:)


Hold the mustard, hold the mayo, hold a party and say hey-o! :)
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Quoting wxchaser97:

I would like a coke ICEE and a medium fry please, jk.

I just found out not too long ago there even was an earthquake. Is there a lot of damage?


That doesn't sound too bad right about now lol
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