Nor'easter coming Wednesday and Thursday

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:26 PM GMT on November 05, 2012

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An early-season Nor'easter will form off the coast of South Carolina on Tuesday evening. Once over the warm waters off the coast, the low will intensify, spreading heavy rains of 1 - 2" over coastal North Carolina on Tuesday night and Wednesday morning. The storm will accelerate to the north-northeast on Wednesday and pull in cold air from Canada, and intensify into a medium-strength Nor'easter with a central pressure near 984 mb by Wednesday evening. While the exact track of the storm still has considerable uncertainty, the models are pretty unified on the timing and strength of this storm. A 12-hour period of strong winds of 40 - 45 mph will likely affect portions of the coast from Maryland to Massachusetts. A more westerly track, as currently predicted by our top model, the European ECMWF model, would likely result in the storm's strongest winds affecting the New Jersey coast. A storm surge of 2 - 4 feet would likely hit the New Jersey coast, and a storm surge of 3 - 5 feet would likely impact the western end of Long Island Sound. These surges would be accompanied by high, battering waves, capable of causing moderate to locally severe erosion along the coastal areas pounded by Hurricane Sandy last week. Fortunately, the high tides this week will be some of the lowest of the month, since we are midway between when the new moon and full moon occur. A more easterly track for the storm, as predicted by the GFS model, would put the Nor'easter's strongest winds along eastern Long Island and coastal Massachusetts, resulting in lower storm surges for New Jersey and New York City. Accompanying the storm will be a swath of 2 - 3" of rain, with the heaviest rains falling over Eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island. The storm isn't going to tap into a large reservoir of cold, Arctic air, which will limit its intensity and snowfall amounts. Snow is not expected in coastal area, but the Nor'easter has the potential to bring more than a foot of snow to mountain areas of New England.


Figure 1. Predicted wind speed for Wednesday evening, November 7, 2012, from the ECMWF model (left) and GFS model (right). The ECMWF model was run using data from 00Z (7 pm EST) Sunday night, and the GFS model was run using data beginning at 06Z (1 am EST) on Monday. Winds tropical storm-force (39+ mph) are predicted to extend from coastal Virginia to Massachusetts.


Figure 2. Predicted storm surge at Atlantic City, NJ for Wednesday's Nor'easter, from the experimental Extratropical Storm Surge model, run by NOAA"s Meteorological Development Laboratory. This model used winds from this morning's 6Z (1 am EDT) run of the GFS model. The peak storm surge (yellowish-brown line) is predicted to be 3.3', occurring just after midnight local time on Wednesday night. High tide (green line) occurs near 1 am Thursday morning, resulting in a peak storm tide of approximately 7.4' around 1 am Thursday (black line). For comparison, Sandy delivered a 5.81' storm surge to Atlantic City, with the highest storm tide reaching 8.9' above MLLW.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting Skyepony:
GFS wind swath in knots for the nor'easter. It's 925mb so it should be a little less at the surface but dang..

..gee in the same area as sandy was
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471. Skyepony (Mod)
GFS wind swath in knots for the nor'easter. It's 925mb so it should be a little less at the surface but dang..

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Man is it beautiful here in the Keys lately. This has been the 1st week in quite a while that one can comfortably sleep with the windows open. Love it!!!

Get out and vote as if your life depends upon it, for it does!!!

Good luck and stay safe in the North East!!!
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

For today.

Please enter chat to help clear something up...
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Quoting JerseyShoreGirl:
My home passed inspection so we finally just got power. So many did not and they are tired, cold, and worried about flooding again. I am here to see what this Nor'easter has in store for us. I worry about flooding here on the Barnegat Bay? I live by the bay at the mouth of the Inlet, and we have nothing protecting us anymore. I hear the wind gusts are estimated up to 60 mph, which we are usually ready for and can handle, but things are not normal by any means! Anyone believe we will see significant higher gusts?

Due to the coming storm tomorrow we are seeing mandatory evacuations in some waterfront communities, but nothing said for my area yet.

Keeping fingers crossed for everyone out there. I was able to see the damage last night on the news and I am just in shock. My heart goes out to everyone!

I will frequent this board for more information, but wanted to say thank you to everyone for being VERY HELPFUL as some posts gave us excellent forecasts. I am amazed at how accurate some of you have been with predicting Sandy, and now this Nor'eastern.



Stay safe JerseyGirl. Positive thoughts and prayers are coming your way ...and for everyone else that will be impacted.

I pray that you dont lose power and that you are safe from the winds
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Quoting ChillinInTheKeys:
I think Nea just got a little unexpected vacation.

For today.
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Quoting JerseyShoreGirl:
My home passed inspection so we finally just got power. So many did not and they are tired, cold, and worried about flooding again. I am here to see what this Nor'easter has in store for us. I worry about flooding here on the Barnegat Bay? I live by the bay at the mouth of the Inlet, and we have nothing protecting us anymore. I hear the wind gusts are estimated up to 60 mph, which we are usually ready for and can handle, but things are not normal by any means! Anyone believe we will see significant higher gusts?

Due to the coming storm tomorrow we are seeing mandatory evacuations in some waterfront communities, but nothing said for my area yet.

Keeping fingers crossed for everyone out there. I was able to see the damage last night on the news and I am just in shock. My heart goes out to everyone!

I will frequent this board for more information, but wanted to say thank you to everyone for being VERY HELPFUL as some posts gave us excellent forecasts. I am amazed at how accurate some of you have been with predicting Sandy, and now this Nor'eastern.
I think the NWS there is worried about the 2 high tides tomorrow, minor to moderate coastal flooding, I expect most of the dunes and beaches are already hard hit by sandy huh..prepare and stay safe ok..let us know afterwards how it was for your area if you can..thanks
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I think Nea just got a little unexpected vacation.
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HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — Connecticut's two major utilities have kept their promise to restore power to more than 95 percent of their customers, but nearly 10,000 residents and businesses are still without power more than a week after Superstorm Sandy pounded the Northeast.

Connecticut Light & Power reported that 7,702 customers, or less than 1 percent of affected customers, were without power Tuesday morning. United Illuminating says 2,241 customers, or a fraction of 1 percent, remained without power. At its peak last Tuesday immediately after the storm, 625,000 customers were without power.

The two utilities faced scattered criticism from some municipal officials for not fully restoring power more quickly but were generally praised for responding quickly.
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Season aint over till it's over.

06z GFS 174 hours out.


00z CMC 144 hours out.
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Quoting wxchaser97:

I wouldn't necessarily call it a real bad storm. There won't be flooding rains or extreme amounts of snow or really high winds with this nor'easter. I know there will be impacts and I also know it is affecting areas that got hit by Sandy. Though I think it should just be more of a hindrance to recovery efforts and an inconvenience to others. I am not trying to downplay it but I don't feel it is really bad. Also technically political comments are allowed as long as they relate to science or the blog topic.
folks..here is the NWS statement............A STRONG COASTAL STORM IS EXPECTED FOR WEDNESDAY INTO
WEDNESDAY NIGHT...

.STRENGTHENING LOW PRESSURE IS FORECAST TO BE LOCATED OFF THE
VIRGINIA CAPES WEDNESDAY MORNING. THE STORM IS EXPECTED TO MOVE
NORTHWARD TO THE WATERS OFF DELAWARE AND NEW JERSEY WEDNESDAY
NIGHT. THE SYSTEM SHOULD BEGIN TO PULL AWAY TO THE NORTHEAST
THURSDAY.

DEZ002>004-NJZ012>014-020>027-062200-
/O.CON.KPHI.CF.A.0002.121107T1600Z-121108T1300Z/
KENT-INLAND SUSSEX-DELAWARE BEACHES-MIDDLESEX-WESTERN MONMOUTH-
EASTERN MONMOUTH-OCEAN-CUMBERLAND-ATLANTIC-CAPE MAY-
ATLANTIC COASTAL CAPE MAY-COASTAL ATLANTIC-COASTAL OCEAN-
SOUTHEASTERN BURLINGTON-
338 AM EST TUE NOV 6 2012

...COASTAL FLOOD WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM WEDNESDAY MORNING
THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING...

* LOCATION...COASTAL AREAS OF NEW JERSEY AND DELAWARE AND ALONG
DELAWARE BAY.

* COASTAL FLOODING...MODERATE FLOODING IS ANTICIPATED AROUND THE
TIMES OF HIGH TIDE ON WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT. WATER
LEVELS MAY NOT RECEDE MUCH BETWEEN THE TWO HIGH TIDES.

* AT SANDY HOOK... NEW JERSEY (SANDY HOOK BAY) HIGH TIDE OCCURS
AT 118 PM WEDNESDAY... WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL OF 7.5 TO
8.0 FEET ABOVE MEAN LOWER LOW WATER. HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT 212
AM THURSDAY... WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL NEAR 8.0 FEET ABOVE
MEAN LOWER LOW WATER.

* AT SEASIDE HEIGHTS... NEW JERSEY (OCEANFRONT) HIGH TIDE OCCURS
AT 1248 PM WEDNESDAY... WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL 7.0 TO 7.5
FEET ABOVE MEAN LOWER LOW WATER. HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT 142 AM
THURSDAY... WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL NEAR 7.5 FEET ABOVE
MEAN LOWER LOW WATER.

* AT ATLANTIC CITY... NEW JERSEY (OCEANFRONT) HIGH TIDE OCCURS
AT 101 PM WEDNESDAY... WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL NEAR 7.5
FEET ABOVE MEAN LOWER LOW WATER. HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT 157 AM
THURSDAY... WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL NEAR 7.5 FEET ABOVE
MEAN LOWER LOW WATER.

* AT CAPE MAY... NEW JERSEY (OCEANFRONT) HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT 135
PM WEDNESDAY... WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL OF 8.0 TO 8.5 FEET
ABOVE MEAN LOWER LOW WATER. HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT 231 AM
THURSDAY... WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL NEAR 8.0 FEET ABOVE
MEAN LOWER LOW WATER.

* AT BREAKWATER HARBOR... DELAWARE (DELAWARE BAY) HIGH TIDE
OCCURS AT 221 PM WEDNESDAY... WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL NEAR
7.5 FEET ABOVE MEAN LOWER LOW WATER. HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT 302
AM THURSDAY... WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL OF 7.0 TO 7.5 FEET
ABOVE MEAN LOWER LOW WATER.

* AT REHOBOTH BEACH... DELAWARE (OCEANFRONT) HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT
133 PM WEDNESDAY... WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL NEAR 7.5 FEET
ABOVE MEAN LOWER LOW WATER. HIGH TIDE OCCURS AT 207 AM
THURSDAY... WITH A FORECAST TIDE LEVEL OF 7.0 TO 7.5 FEET
ABOVE MEAN LOWER LOW WATER.

* HIGH TIDE ON THE BACK BAYS... ALONG DELAWARE BAY AND ALONG
RARITAN BAY OCCURS LATER THAN THE HIGH TIDE ON THE OCEANFRONT.

* SEAS...WAVE HEIGHTS IN THE SURF ZONE ALONG THE COAST ARE
EXPECTED TO BUILD INTO THE 6 TO 10 FOOT RANGE. WAVE HEIGHTS ON
DELAWARE BAY SHOULD BE IN THE 2 TO 6 FOOT RANGE.

* IMPACTS...NUMEROUS ROADWAYS WILL FLOOD AND ADDITIONAL MINOR TO
MODERATE PROPERTY DAMAGE IS POSSIBLE. THE ELEVATED TIDES WILL
HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON RECOVERY EFFORTS. THE TIDES AND THE
WAVE ACTION WILL RESULT IN ADDITIONAL MODERATE TO MAJOR BEACH
EROSION.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

THIS COASTAL FLOOD WATCH MEANS THAT CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR
THE DEVELOPMENT OF MODERATE COASTAL FLOODING. PAY CLOSE ATTENTION
TO UPDATED FORECASTS AND STATEMENTS AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION
TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY. FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF LOCAL
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS.

FOR A LIST OF THE IMPACT OF DIFFERENT TIDE HEIGHTS IN YOUR COUNTY
PLEASE GO TO WWW.WEATHER.GOV/PHI/TIDES.HTM (ALL IN LOWER CASE).

&&

$$
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Quoting wxchaser97:

I wouldn't necessarily call it a real bad storm. There won't be flooding rains or extreme amounts of snow or really high winds with this nor'easter. I know there will be impacts and I also know it is affecting areas that got hit by Sandy. Though I think it should just be more of a hindrance to recovery efforts and an inconvenience to others. I am not trying to downplay it but I don't feel it is really bad. Also technically political comments are allowed as long as they relate to science or the blog topic.


Have you seen one this morning that is related to weather or science? No...so just stop, vote your convictions and .....
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Tomorrow - 11/7/12 21:00 GMT says the GFS - So, center to the South, glancing blow.
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GEFS model spread, same place at 48 hours
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Quoting wxchaser97:

I wouldn't necessarily call it a real bad storm. There won't be flooding rains or extreme amounts of snow or really high winds with this nor'easter. I know there will be impacts and I also know it is affecting areas that got hit by Sandy. Though I think it should just be more of a hindrance to recovery efforts and an inconvenience to others. I am not trying to downplay it but I don't feel it is really bad. Also technically political comments are allowed as long as they relate to science or the blog topic.
no your wrong, according to the NWS, gusts up to 65 mph will bring down power lines and weakened tree's, minor to moderate coastal flooding and even more beach erosion..dont let the people up there let their guard down..Listen folks to your NWS..the only TRUE voice out there..prepare and stay safe......not like last time
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Quoting LargoFl:
with a real BAD storm coming to people already suffering horribly..lets keep the politics OUT of the blog today ok..concentrate on getting the warnings out to them

I wouldn't necessarily call it a real bad storm. There won't be flooding rains or extreme amounts of snow or really high winds with this nor'easter. I know there will be impacts and I also know it is affecting areas that got hit by Sandy. Though I think it should just be more of a hindrance to recovery efforts and an inconvenience to others. I am not trying to downplay it but I don't feel it is really bad. Also technically political comments are allowed as long as they relate to science or the blog topic.
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My home passed inspection so we finally just got power. So many did not and they are tired, cold, and worried about flooding again. I am here to see what this Nor'easter has in store for us. I worry about flooding here on the Barnegat Bay? I live by the bay at the mouth of the Inlet, and we have nothing protecting us anymore. I hear the wind gusts are estimated up to 60 mph, which we are usually ready for and can handle, but things are not normal by any means! Anyone believe we will see significant higher gusts?

Due to the coming storm tomorrow we are seeing mandatory evacuations in some waterfront communities, but nothing said for my area yet.

Keeping fingers crossed for everyone out there. I was able to see the damage last night on the news and I am just in shock. My heart goes out to everyone!

I will frequent this board for more information, but wanted to say thank you to everyone for being VERY HELPFUL as some posts gave us excellent forecasts. I am amazed at how accurate some of you have been with predicting Sandy, and now this Nor'eastern.
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NAM at 48 hours, thats 3 models in the same place..prepare
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NAEFS model at 48 hours..prepare and stay safe folks.........
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GFS at 48 hours, same place as Sandy was..prepare folks...
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Quoting Midnight092289:
I have been lurking on this blog since '05, and I will use my first post to call out Mr. Intelligent from Naples:

I appreciate all the climate change research you present, and you usually do it with an objective tone. But have you done any research on this "critical thinking" you speak of? I think you might be surprised by which political party has the higher IQ; and for that matter also gives more money and time to charitable causes, produces more, has more humility (clearly evidenced here), and is generally happier. Look it up. The liberals have convinced the world that they have the market cornered on goodness, but it is actually deceit in which they are masterful.

I do love Dr. Master's blog, your contributions usually, and I hope I don't get blocked or ignored (although I am capableof going another 7 years without posting). I promise to talk about the weather in the future, I am just hypersensitive today, as it seems you are.



Great first post and welcome to the blog frost zone..lol
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GFS at 24 hours, there's our storm alright.......
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Quoting jerseybreakfast:
Good morning, weather folks! It's a sunny crisp morning in NJ and I just voted.

I'm no pro, but does it look like the models are predicting that this storm might give NJ a bit of a break? There are a lot of people in the cold right now. My poor little scrappy state doesn't need more of this.
nws has warning out for NJ already..prepare and stay safe up there ok
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Quoting Neapolitan:
Before you go vote today, I'd like you to remember that Obama is a secret Muslim who was fathered by Malcolm X and birthed by a communist and born in Kenya before becoming a Black Panther (and killing his grandmother to cover up hs ancestry), then moving to Indonesia where he joined the Muslim Brotherhood and attended a madrassa where he learned to speak fluent Arabic and make bombs which he used when he helped the mujahideen in the 1980s and when he funneled guns to the Taliban for the CIA, both of which which he covered by faking his transcripts at Harvard (that are hidden in a secret warehouse back in Nairobi), then he had Bill Ayers ghostwrite his memoirs while he trained in Afghanistan to overthrow the government before he moved to America and had a man killed so he could use the dead guy's social security number, then he stole the 2008 election after running a campaign fueld entirely by drug money, then swore in on the Koran instead of the Bible, after which he stripped all the US flags from Air Force One, redecorated the Oval Office in a Mideastern style, and refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance because the secret ring he wears that holds the Koranic verses says he can't, then he embarked on a worldwide apology tour during which he gave U.S. islands to Russia, and devised a plan to re-educate and brainwash all American kids, and steal everyone's guns, gold, IRAs, and farms, which all happened before the deep U.S recession that he created (back in 1995 but which didn't come to fruition until 2008 so he could make Bush look bad), fake bin Laden's death, forge his own birth certificates and contemporary birth announcements, set up the BP oil spill, kill Andrew Breitbart, falisfy employment numbers, secretly marry a Pakistani guy, and learn to get really good with a teleprompter because he is so busy devising a way to sneak 100 million Muslims into the U.S. that he never really learned public speaking. Oh, and he's the Antichrist.
with a real BAD storm coming to people already suffering horribly..lets keep the politics OUT of the blog today ok..concentrate on getting the warnings out to them
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444. Skyepony (Mod)
Quoting islander101010:
getting alittle brown rain is welcomed


Had a little of that brown rain down here in Melbourne this morning too. It was like driving into a bunch of bad, brown air coming back from NFL down I-95 lastnight. The excessive contrails made for some beautiful, brilliant, bright sundogs before sunset.
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


It made for a rainy co0l morning but we'll take it.
Some places picked up 2 inches of rain.
Also it was 45F with lightning, been a while since that has happened.

For you 45F is cool but for me it is above average, closer to an average high. I would take rain no matter how cool it was.
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Quoting wxchaser97:

At least you are getting rain from it, which will knock out some drought. I am pretty sure you mean fun or at least I think so.


It made for a rainy cool morning but we'll take it.
Some places picked up 2 inches of rain.
Also it was 45F with lightning, been a while since that has happened.
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438. Skyepony (Mod)
93S
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Good morning, weather folks! It's a sunny crisp morning in NJ and I just voted.

I'm no pro, but does it look like the models are predicting that this storm might give NJ a bit of a break? There are a lot of people in the cold right now. My poor little scrappy state doesn't need more of this.
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
Not sure why this piece of the noreaster decided not to leave but it was fum.


At least you are getting rain from it, which will knock out some drought. I am pretty sure you mean fun or at least I think so.
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The GFS and the EURO are still not in agreement as to the movement of the storm

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434. etxwx
Quoting Grothar:
I find it hard to believe all these conspiracy theories and where they are coming from. All I know is that the next time I get beamed up to the mother ship, I am going to ask if this is what the ancient aliens programmed into us.


Saaay, is the mother ship a blimp? What I want to know is if blimps leave contrails. Bimps, bigfoot, contrails...it would be the perfect confluence of conspiracy. :-) And it's on Reuters!
Idaho scientist seeks to launch aerial Bigfoot search with blimp

On a weather note, I made a trip to Houston yesterday and came home to find a half inch of rain in the gauge and the pasture looking much happier. This morning is a beautiful sunny, crisp fall morning.

When you go vote, be sure to smile and say thanks to the poll workers. They have an important and sometimes thankless role in the whole democratic process.
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Not sure why this piece of the noreaster decided not to leave but it was fun.

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Quoting Neapolitan:
Sort of mind-boggling, isn't it? Some will readily cling to the belief that a worldwide consortium of thousands of climate scientists is somehow stealthily working in long secret to falsify and manipulate data to falsely "prove" global warming for the sole purpose of gaining thousands of dollars in government research grants. Yet those same people just as readily dismiss even the possibility that entities currently making hundreds of billions of dollars in profit would try to maintain the fossil fuel-only paradigm through lies and deception.

Critical thinking skills are, sadly, lacking--as we'll no doubt see evidenced in state after state today...



Yeah I don't know why people would vote for a bad economy either......Green Energy will come around, it has to by logic.
Why do you have to be stupid to vote for one party or the other anyway? Believing differently makes you stupid?
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Quoting Grothar:
I find it hard to believe all these conspiracy theories and where they are coming from. All I know is that the next time I get beamed up to the mother ship, I am going to ask if this is what the ancient aliens programmed into us.


Wish that mothership would hurry up and get here.
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Ah, glancing blow.
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Forecasted surge = 11' at Kings Point

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/mdl/etsurge/index.php?pag e=stn®ion=ne&type=both&stn=nyking

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/mdl/etsurge/index.php?pag e=map®ion=ne
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Quoting StormPro:
Weather here in South Louisiana is 55 and partly cloudy... The topic at the top of the blog is Winter Weather....PLEASE refrain from political posts today...they will be flagged and reported

Well actually...
11. Political comments are allowed, as long as they're in reference to science, science policy, or the blog topic.
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Cool WV Loop showing the trough digging down.

http://www.atmo.arizona.edu/products/wximagery/50 0mbwv.html
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Weather here in South Louisiana is 55 and partly cloudy... The topic at the top of the blog is Winter Weather....PLEASE refrain from political posts today...they will be flagged and reported
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I find it hard to believe all these conspiracy theories and where they are coming from. All I know is that the next time I get beamed up to the mother ship, I am going to ask if this is what the ancient aliens programmed into us.
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