Sandy by the numbers: trying to comprehend a stunning disaster

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 7:19 PM GMT on November 01, 2012

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The immensity of the impact of Superstorm Sandy on the Eastern U.S. is difficult to comprehend, and the scenes of devastation coming from the impact zone are stunning and heart-wrenching. To help understand the extraordinary scale of this historic storm, I've put together a list of notable statistics from Sandy:

Death toll: 160 (88 in the U.S., 54 in Haiti, 11 in Cuba)

Damage estimates: $10 - $55 billion

Power outages: 8.5 million U.S. customers, 2nd most for a natural disaster behind the 1993 blizzard (10 million)

Maximum U.S. sustained winds: 69 mph at Westerly, RI

Peak U.S. wind gusts: 90 mph at Islip, NY and Tompkinsville, NJ

Maximum U.S. storm surge: 9.45', Bergen Point, NJ 9:24 pm EDT October 29, 2012

Maximum U.S. Storm Tide: 14.60', Bergen Point, NJ, 9:24 pm EDT October 29, 2012

Maximum significant wave height: 33.1' at the buoy east of Cape Hatteras, NC (2nd highest: 32.5' at the Entrance to New York Harbor)

Maximum U.S. rainfall: 12.55", Easton, MD

Maximum snowfall: 36", Richwood, WV

Minimum pressure: 945.5 mb, Atlantic City, NJ at 7:24 pm EST, October 29, 2012. This is the lowest pressure measured in the U.S., at any location north of Cape Hatteras, NC (previous record: 946 mb in the 1938 hurricane on Long Island, NY)

Destructive potential of storm surge: 5.8 on a scale of 0 to 6, highest of any hurricane observed since 1969. Previous record: 5.6 on a scale of 0 to 6, set during Hurricane Isabel of 2003.

Diameter of tropical storm-force winds at landfall: 945 miles

Diameter of ocean with 12' seas at landfall: 1500 miles


Figure 1. The Visible Infrared Imaging Radiometer Suite (VIIRS) on the Suomi NPP satellite acquired this image of Superstorm Sandy around 3:35 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time (7:35 Universal Time) on October 30. This image is from the “day-night band” on VIIRS, which detects light wavelengths from green to near-infrared. The full Moon lit up the tops of the clouds. Image credit: NASA.



Figure 2. Preliminary death and damage statistics for Sandy as compiled by Wikipedia on November 1, 2012.



Figure 3. Precipitation from Superstorm Sandy for the 7-day period ending at 8 am EDT Thursday, November 1, 2012. Image credit: NOAA/NWS/AHPS.



Figure 4. Top five weather-related power outages in the U.S.



Figure 5. Strong winds from Sandy blow snow in West Virginia on October 30, 2012. Image credit: Beau Dodson


Sandy's snows
Several cities set records for snowiest October day on record during Sandy: Elkin, WV (7", previous record, 4.6" in 1917) and Bluefield (4.7", previous record 3.2" in 1993.) Heavy snows caused roof collapses in West Virginia, and snows of two feet or more fell in four states--West Virginia, Tennessee, Maryland, and Virginia. However, Sandy fell short of setting the all-time record for snowfall from a hurricane. The Vermont Journal estimated that the Snow Hurricane of 1804 dumped up to 4 feet of snow in Vermont.

36" Richwood, WV
34" Mount Leconte, TN
34" Sevier, TN
33" Clayton, WV
32" Snowshoe, WV
29" Quinwood, WV
28" Frostburg, WV
28" Davis, WV
28" Huttonsville, WV
28" Flat Top, WV
26" Redhouse, MD
26" Garret, MD
26" Craigsville, WV
24" Oakland, MD
24" Alpine Lake, WV
24" Nettie, WV
24" Norton, VA
24" Quinwood, WV
24" Alexander, WV

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Impressive loop of 1-minute visible satellite imagery spanning 6 days of Sandy's life.

A one-day time lapse video from a New York City webcam showing Sandy's impact on the city. It's eerie to see the city suddenly plunged into darkness.

First round of damage assessment aerial imagery collected by NOAA's National Geodetic Survey on Oct. 31 along the New Jersey coast.


Figure 6. Flooding in Haiti from Hurricane Sandy. Image credit: The Lambi Fund of Haiti.

Charities mobilize for Sandy
The outpouring of charitable donations in the wake of the devastation wrought by Hurricane Sandy has been one of the bright spots in the gloomy aftermath of the storm. The main owners of The Weather Channel have agreed to match donations of up to $1 million to the American Red Cross, if you text SANDY to 90999 ($10). I also recommend my favorite disaster relief charity, Portlight.org. They are focusing their response efforts exclusively on the post-Sandy neeeds of people with disabilities.Check out the Portlight blog to see what they're up to; donations are always needed.

Sandy's greatest devastation occurred in Haiti, where rains of up to 20 inches in 24 hours unleashed rampaging flood waters that killed at least 54, left 200,000 homeless, wiped out thousand of acres of crops, and killed massive numbers of livestock. For impoverished families in Haiti still struggling to recover from the earthquake in 2010 and Hurricane Isaac in August, Sandy was devastating.  These crops are the very essence of rural Haitian’s livelihoods, and there are fears widespread starvation will result. A disaster relief charity in Haiti that I've contributed to for many years, The Lambi Fund of Haiti, is seeking donations to help farmers purchase local seeds so that they can replant their crops in the wake of this latest terrible Haitian catastrophe.

Jeff Masters

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Everyone has seen photos of the damage inflicted by Hurricane Sandy that destroyed New Jersey, NYC, & Long Island as well as other areas on the East Coast. I am finally back on line after 4 days without power. It has been a long ordeal. My block was extremely fortunate. We didn't have any trees fall and no flooding but the entire area is devastated. This is a photo of a tree that fell between the street, smashed, the car, and blew out the tires. No one was hurt.
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Quoting entrelac:
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Every death... every single death... in an area under mandatory evacuation was a needless and preventable one.
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Are you sure about that? Free rides for all? Social workers to help convince granny to come on out? A giant sweep to find all of the many multiple thousands of homeless people?

I am calling BS on that.
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Sandy has absolutely NOTHING to do with politics. I think it's pretty sad when EVERYTHING in today's world is now political.

I couldn't care less who endorses who. Do you??? All that matters is these people who have had their lives turned upside down are getting the help that they need.

I am beyond sick and tired of these people (term used loosely) on both sides of the mainstream media....FOX and MSNBC. Their only purpose in life is to demean, deflect, defend, marginalize and be downright disgusting pieces of human trash. Anyone that looks up to these jackballs needs to have their head thoroughly examined! Rational discourse in this country, whether it be about the weather (global warming), or politcs is gone. It's either you agree with me, or you're a complete idiot.

It's time for people to simply grow up and realize that differing opinion is good. Partisan political pundits should be chained and dropped off a mountain top.

Prayers to all those affected by Sandy. If you haven't done so already, please donate what you can, be it time, money, clothing.... They all need it.
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Quoting HurrikanEB:
Bloomberg Endorses Obama, Citing Climate Change

In a surprise announcement, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said Thursday that Hurricane Sandy had reshaped his thinking about the presidential campaign and that as a result he was endorsing President Obama.

“The devastation that Hurricane Sandy brought to New York City and much of the Northeast — in lost lives, lost homes and lost business — brought the stakes of next Tuesday’s presidential election into sharp relief,” Mr. Bloomberg wrote in an editorial for Bloomberg View.

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On the GM plant floor there was an old saying that translated roughly as "Keep it covered!". Way to keep it covered Mikey!
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Deleted due to excessive politics.
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Quoting HurrikanEB:
Bloomberg Endorses Obama, Citing Climate Change

In a surprise announcement, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said Thursday that Hurricane Sandy had reshaped his thinking about the presidential campaign and that as a result he was endorsing President Obama.

“The devastation that Hurricane Sandy brought to New York City and much of the Northeast — in lost lives, lost homes and lost business — brought the stakes of next Tuesday’s presidential election into sharp relief,” Mr. Bloomberg wrote in an editorial for Bloomberg View.

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Im so glad that people are seeing this is bigger than party affliations..its about helping neighbors in a time of need and both Bloomberg and Christie see that in our President!
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In the blackout zone at Union Sq. on Wednesday night, the lights
of a Taco truck attract a crowd. (Jefferson Siegel/New York Daily News)
by Lauren Johnston edited by Meena Hart Duerson on 4:50 PM via email
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Quoting Grothar:
BLOB ALERT GRO?
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Quoting NoNamePub:


Most everyone Carries Flood now (most banks mandate NFIP)

Paid for by your tax dollars...

I live in Florida but am not in an "official" flood zone, ego, I am not required to have flood insurance, and I don't. I am sure that is a huge rain maker of a storm pounded on my part of S FL for days, I might have flooding simply because the storm drains would not be able to handle the runoff. I know that we have had some flooding incidents down here where folks were not required to have flood insurance, and their homes were flooded. With the high cost of home insurance, most of us here will opt out if you are not required to have it. Am so sorry for the folks up in the NE. But if you and your family are still alive, safe and well, then you will survive this. Prayers and thoughts with all.
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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
something is going on with the NWS site for the NE


Maybe they are celebrating too much at central command.. :)
From WU homepage..

"The early years of the National Weather Service began on this date in 1870. On this day, 24 United States Army Signal Corps observers from around the country took weather reports at precisely the same time. These reports were then sent to Washington, D.C. for further distribution to newspapers. "
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Bloomberg Endorses Obama, Citing Climate Change

In a surprise announcement, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said Thursday that Hurricane Sandy had reshaped his thinking about the presidential campaign and that as a result he was endorsing President Obama.

“The devastation that Hurricane Sandy brought to New York City and much of the Northeast — in lost lives, lost homes and lost business — brought the stakes of next Tuesday’s presidential election into sharp relief,” Mr. Bloomberg wrote in an editorial for Bloomberg View.

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just really shocking to see this to happen that far north in october. but the models did a hell of a job in predicting this.
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Quoting NoNamePub:


I agree - When you add in Insurable Losses -
Business Income and loss of rents - and relocation expenses....$55bill will be very light.

Floodman been around to weigh in on this ?


Is my dollar still hanging near the entrance to the restrooms? LOL
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Quoting Neapolitan:
The "warm wave" the CPC has been predicting for several days now looks to slowly spread eastward:

CPC

Over the 8-14 day period, things moderate a bit, while the warmest anomalies settle in over the Great Lakes:

CPC

it's interesting that Southern Alaska is well below normal over the entire time period, while Northern Alaska is facing well above normal temperatures.



dont look like the warmth will make it to the east coast which is where its needed right now..
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From previous blog #905

Quoting BosGuy:
As a layperson in Boston, I would sure appreciate it if someone could tell me the likelihood and severity of the second nor'easter you are all telling me is coming back to knock over our remaining trees next week. I know folks don't always translate these discussions--and shouldn't have to--but this week there are a lot of worried average joes and janes looking at this blog.



On another note: Where are people under evacuation order supposed to go? A well-off person can decide that it's a good week to take a spontaneous vacation to San Francisco. What if you're just working class, living paycheck to paycheck, and have no relatives you can stay with? Do you just get on the road up the Thruway and hope you find somewhere safe, even though Sandy is supposed to strike the whole area with great force? What if you don't even have a car, like many people in NYC and NJ? It does no good to assume options that simply don't exist.

Local shelters within the city were open and not used, for the most part.

There's no need to go to the opposite coast and to use that as an example is hyperbolic. What do you think the rest of the population in hurricane country does? We run from the water (surge) and hide from the wind. Why the NE didn't learn from the lessons paid for with lives in the Southern Tier of states I'll never know but Sandy didn't have to rack up this body count.

Frankly, a lot of us were shocked and horrified that so many stayed in Zone A. The reports of people trapped by surge in basements was particularly troubling. Did they think the surge fairy didn't travel north of North Carolina? Is the water of a different consistency up there that prevents drowning?

Every death... every single death... in an area under mandatory evacuation was a needless and preventable one.

You can lead a person to information but you can't make them think.

Hopefully someone can help you with your Nor'easter question.
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Quoting FtMyersgal:
Thank you Dr Masters. I hope I'm wrong but I thing $55 Bil is light

modified to correct typo


I agree - When you add in Insurable Losses -
Business Income and loss of rents - and relocation expenses....$55bill will be very light.

Floodman been around to weigh in on this ?
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Quoting kwgirl:
I am glad you explained that. It was going over this blonde's head!:)


hey! I resemble that remark...
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Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
I have maybe 20 $1 bills on that wall


I used to live on Ortega Street....about a block away...
Many many night spent at the pub
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Then of course these FEMA to bail out those that aren't already covered by the discounted (tax dollar supplied) Carrier ....
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Quoting NoNamePub:


Most everyone Carries Flood now (most banks mandate NFIP)

Paid for by your tax dollars...
I have maybe 20 $1 bills on that wall
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Quoting Neapolitan:
The "warm wave" the CPC has been predicting for several days now looks to slowly spread eastward:

CPC

Over the 8-14 day period, things moderate a bit, while the warmest anomalies settle in over the Great Lakes:

CPC

it's interesting that Southern Alaska is well below normal over the entire time period, while Northern Alaska is facing well above normal temperatures.



Very Interesting...

WunderGirl12
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Quoting FtMyersgal:



I think the salt water intrusion in the subways alone will be an expensive corrosive headache for NYC. And I wonder how many folks carried flood insurance.


Most everyone Carries Flood now (most banks mandate NFIP)

Paid for by your tax dollars...
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this map is for SW connecticut...about 50 miles NE of NYC



click on the map for bigger view
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The "warm wave" the CPC has been predicting for several days now looks to slowly spread eastward:

CPC

Over the 8-14 day period, things moderate a bit, while the warmest anomalies settle in over the Great Lakes:

CPC

it's interesting that Southern Alaska is well below normal over the entire time period, while Northern Alaska is facing well above normal temperatures.

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84. NJ2S
i have a question if anyone cares to answer...

the atmospheric setup that allowed sandy to not die out and continue on a trajectory towards NJ , is this something that primarily only happens in mid-late autumn(Neg tilt/blocking greenland high) or is this also possible in august and september when SST are higher? could this happen again but with a stronger storm b/c it scares me if sandy was borderline cat 2 what would happen if a real cat 2 or 3 was riding up the coast?
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(Disclosure - I'm a Brit, and I'm not really aware of Bloomberg's political background. TBPH I'm not even sure which party he's in. I've a bit of professional exposure to planning & response to risks including natural hazards like storms, from the corporate PoV.)

Quoting OracleDeAtlantis:
Why turn off the electricity and not the natural gas?

It smells of poor planning, and poor management. Bloomberg should be fired.



That strikes me as unfair. Contingency planning is a long-term undertaking. There will be a department somewhere in the City / State civil service bureaucracy doing nothing but planning for the whole range of risks. A major storm (whatever it's official status at landfall) would definitely be a top 5 risk, for which very detailed planning would have to be in place. If Bloomberg's made some sort of significant cutbacks on incident planning, fine, that makes him potentially culpable. (As I said -- I don't know anything about what he's done in office -- maybe he has got such a record?) As the random politician who happens to have got themselves elected for a span of time that happens to have seen a storm of extremely unusual severity, to a major extent he's inherited 99.8% of the ingredients of the quality of the state response.



*(both actually, plus Federal,.. and they all have to coordinate their plans so everyone's clear about who does what, and coordinate with hundreds of other organisations.)
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Afternoon all. After spending the last nine days in the Dominican Republic its nice to be back home. I don't think I have ever seen so much water fall from the sky as with Sandy. After Sandy left the area I was fortunate enough, actually humbled, to go visit some of the villages in the Eastern mountains of the country and talk with some of the people. The majority have no electricity, running water, phone, or cable to begin with so word of an approaching storm comes from word of mouth by friends or family. Sometimes you get the message in time and sometimes you don't. This storm is one that will sting for a while for quite a few folks around the world. Hopefully once the dust settles we can all learn something from it. In my opinion between Sandy and Isaac there was one commonality: don't underestimate mother nature. Both storms for the most part appeared like "just another storm" early on but once all was said and done quite the opposite.
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Just reporting in last time I was able to post was before the storm. I am still without power but I have a generator and plenty of gas in the cars to siphon from. Got gas today thankfully there wasn't a line though there were lines in Bordentown and Burlington. Lost trees though none did much damage. I am thankful to be alive but very depressed at the damage I see at the shore. I have pictures of me at seaside as a baby :( Even though the crowd changed and the town changed I still would go every year.

The school district that I work for is still without power hopefully we can get back to work soon. At night I work for a different district and they opened today. Cell service is spotty but getting alittle better. Thats all I have for now hope everyone is well and staying safe.
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Quoting kwgirl:
Good night all. Going home:)
Take care kw..........How was Fantasy Fest? I missed it this year
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Good night all. Going home:)
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Beech Mountain, NC only got 12.5 inches. But look at these drifts. Now imagine the places that got 3 feet in NC with the same winds if not higher. Probably forgot to mention that in the blog with all the other craziness going on!


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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
something is going on with the NWS site for the NE
Here in Key West we had no long distance where I work because our carrier has it in the flooded tunnels of New York. Could be the same type of thing.
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The figures shown are in Jamaican dollars or approxUS$55 million.
Quoting Neapolitan:
Absolutely astounding numbers, and very sobering ones.

I did just notice that the government of Jamaica is estimating eventual damages to that island of about $5 billion, roughly 300 times more than the smallish $16.5 million shown in the Wikipedia graph. I'll go make, or at least suggest, the change. (Jamaica Information Service)

Anyway, a bone for the numerologists among us to gnaw on. I'm not one, but couldn't help but notice the following in the above list:

9.45: in feet, Sandy's maximum storm surge at Bergen Point, NJ
945: in millibars, Sandy's minimum pressure at Atlantic City, NJ
945: in miles, Sandy's diameter of tropical storm-force winds at landfall

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Hoping to have a blast on my surprised birthday party that my classmates are preparing for me. not so secret anymore ¨snickers¨. I see the death toll with Sandy continues to rise hope they are no more deaths.
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something is going on with the NWS site for the NE
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Why no love for North Carolina?

I am pretty sure 36 inches of snow fell in our mountains too. And Grandfather Mountain gusted to 105 mph.

Mt Leconte, TN had 34 inches with drifts at the roof tops.

Charlotte Observer
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Quoting charlottefl:


They have one of the highest reliability ratings in the nation. I think it's 99.98% or something crazy like that. Also the cheapest electric provider (average bill) in the state of FL. And they've been working storms for a while, so they're really good at restoration for the most part.
charlottefl........I think any utility whether good or bad has problems with the locals.... Just something to b***h about I guess
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Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Nea, I live in downtown Lake Worth, I am less than 100 yards from the Intracoastal Waterway... I have Lake Worth utilities. During hurricanes Francis, Jeanne and Wilma I had no power for weeks... Coming home from work from West Palm was always a shock during these periods. West Palm had power and driving home on US1 I crossed over the Lake Worth spillway......no power...Life went on for the FPL customers, they had power..... BUT NO, Our little corner of the world "Lake Worth" was still without power... FPL is probably one of the best utilities I have seen during emergencies...I used to live in Boynton Beach that has FPL..


They have one of the highest reliability ratings in the nation. I think it's 99.98% or something crazy like that. Also the cheapest electric provider (average bill) in the state of FL. And they've been working storms for a while, so they're really good at restoration for the most part.
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Quoting Neapolitan:
Oh, I am absolutely not complaining about FPL. As major utilities go, they're far from being the worst. And when it comes to outages, they are about as responsive as can be. No, my point was that having power out for just a few hours and in a small location is extremely inconvenient, and today's outage made me think--again--about the millions in the Northeast who've been without electricity for four days now, and may have to wait another week or longer. With cold, damp weather coming in.

(If I'm complaining about anyone, it's the soon-to-be-unemployed doofus who was in such a big hurry to complete his route that he neglected to lower his forks before speeding backward out of a parking lot.)
Nea, I live in downtown Lake Worth, I am less than 100 yards from the Intracoastal Waterway... I have Lake Worth utilities. During hurricanes Francis, Jeanne and Wilma I had no power for weeks... Coming home from work from West Palm was always a shock during these periods. West Palm had power and driving home on US1 I crossed over the Lake Worth spillway......no power...Life went on for the FPL customers, they had power..... BUT NO, Our little corner of the world "Lake Worth" was still without power... FPL is probably one of the best utilities I have seen during emergencies...I used to live in Boynton Beach that has FPL..
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Quoting washingtonian115:
I would like to see a few flakes here in D.C all though the chances of that happening are slim.

I'm not to sure why people are getting on me saying "Peoplr cared about where you were and you slam them".Never asked anyone to care and I'm sure most of them would have loved to see me gone.I'll e-mail you ncstorm.


Awwwww...wash115...I haven't known you (or anyone else here) for long, but I cared when someone mentioned that they had not heard from you. I care about all the peeps here...whether I agree with their views or not...people are people. I have been through many hurricanes and am amazed at how many people genuinely care about a person's welfare...even if they continue to slam once they find out you are safe...lol. I enjoy the differences here...makes me think about weather, climate change, AGW...all in a different light. I once was close-minded and one-sided in my thinking. All of you on WU blogs make me think...something I haven't done in years. True...some have been placed on my ignore list...but not for their views...only for their treatment of other people. I never categorized my patients according to their views...just their injuries.

And as to your comment about seeing a few flakes in DC...I wouldn't say that chances are slim...go visit any local or federal government office...you may find a few ;-). I'm just sayin'
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Quoting wjdow:
Does the fact of 69 mph max sustained on-shore winds change anyone's thought about whether NHC should have issued hurricane warnings? At least it makes it a close call about which they deserve a break from some of the harshest criticisms, do you agree?


I didn't say anything about that, I'm saying that the storm that caused the damage was from Hurricane Sandy that developed in the Caribbean. Superstorm Sandy makes it seem like was some horrific blizzard that didn't develop tropically.

Sandy was a part of the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season. The damage totals count towards it.
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Afternoon all...

Quoting washingtonian115:
I would like to see a few flakes here in D.C all though the chances of that happening are slim.

I'm not to sure why people are getting on me saying "People cared about where you were and you slam them". Never asked anyone to care and I'm sure most of them would have loved to see me gone.I'll e-mail you ncstorm.
Well, you can afford to say you didn't ask anyone to care. Unfortunately for you, you signed up for the caring part when you stuck your toes in the water of this blog. You didn't have to ask; we just roll like that.

So THERE.

LOL....

It's good to see u in the blog, grouchy, happy or otherwise... good to see you made it through and have power... how did the kiddies' Halloween escapades go?
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Ohio papers are reporting significant damage across Northern Ohio from 20 foot waves kicked up on the Great Lakes.

Sandy has been keeping some of her punch inland.
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Quoting Neapolitan:
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Anyway, a bone for the numerologists among us to gnaw on. I'm not one, but couldn't help but notice the following in the above list:

9.45: in feet, Sandy's maximum storm surge at Bergen Point, NJ
945: in millibars, Sandy's minimum pressure at Atlantic City, NJ
945: in miles, Sandy's diameter of tropical storm-force winds at landfall

Quoting yonzabam:


From Wiki:
...
The smallest odd abundant number is 945.

Hope that helps.
Just as interesting, here is the beautifully symmetric Mayan base-20 glyph for the number 945:
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Anyone know of a time estimate of when NWS website will be up and running at full capacity again?
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Quoting wjdow:
Does the fact of 69 mph max sustained on-shore winds change anyone's thought about whether NHC should have issued hurricane warnings? At least it makes it a close call about which they deserve a break from some of the harshest criticisms, do you agree?


Some of these discussions are moot, as what's done is already done. I believe the NHC handled this storm carefully and very well, even though I have criticized them for their handling of past storms. The media hype for it was deserved in the end and, in looking at the coverage of the storm and inevitable devastation it caused, I think the people who decided against heeding the warnings and taking all of the hints would have stupidly stayed even if facing down the barrel of a hurricane warning. People have a tendency to believe they won't experience disasters such as Sandy in their lifetimes because Sandy was, truly, a one-of-a-kind disaster.

Thet being said, I wonder if the system crossing Florida and becoming a Nor'easter will start out as Valerie? It's possible, Sandy's massive circulation drew a lot of moisture into prime areas for development for this time of year in this basin, so I would not be surprised.
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Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Nea...... You are not complaining about the utility company but let me just throw this in.... Currently I have "Lake Worth utility, When I lived in Myrtle Beach I had Santee Cooper utility, when I lived in Ohio I had DPL........ Trust me, FPL is great.
Oh, I am absolutely not complaining about FPL. As major utilities go, they're far from being the worst. And when it comes to outages, they are about as responsive as can be. No, my point was that having power out for just a few hours and in a small location is extremely inconvenient, and today's outage made me think--again--about the millions in the Northeast who've been without electricity for four days now, and may have to wait another week or longer. With cold, damp weather coming in.

(If I'm complaining about anyone, it's the soon-to-be-unemployed doofus who was in such a big hurry to complete his route that he neglected to lower his forks before speeding backward out of a parking lot.)
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Quoting kwgirl:
Yeah, you should try sh..ty or Keys Energy(used to be City Electric so you get the drift of the er other name we still call it despite the name change.).
kwgirl........Keys coop has it's problems also
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