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Why did Hurricane Sandy take such an unusual track into New Jersey?
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:33 PM GMT on October 31, 2012 +64
We're used to seeing hurricane-battered beaches and flooded cities in Florida, North Carolina, and the Gulf Coast. But to see these images from the Jersey Shore and New York City in the wake of Hurricane Sandy is a shocking experience. New Jersey only rarely gets hit by hurricanes because it lies in a portion of the coast that doesn't stick out much, and is too far north. How did this happen? How was a hurricane able to move from southeast to northwest at landfall, so far north, and so late in hurricane season? We expect hurricanes to move from east to west in the tropics, where the prevailing trade winds blow that direction. But the prevailing wind direction reverses at mid-latitudes, flowing predominately west-to-east, due to the spin of the Earth. Hurricanes that penetrate to about Florida's latitude usually get caught up in these westerly winds, and are whisked northeastwards, out to sea. However, the jet stream, that powerful band of upper-atmosphere west-to-east flowing air, has many dips and bulges. These troughs of low pressure and ridges of high pressure allow winds at mid-latitudes to flow more to the north or to the south. Every so often, a trough in the jet stream bends back on itself when encountering a ridge of high pressure stuck in place ahead of it. These "negatively tilted" troughs have winds that flow from southeast to northwest. It is this sort of negatively tilted trough that sucked in Sandy and allowed the hurricane to take such an unusual path into New Jersey.


Figure 1. Inlet section of Atlantic City, N.J., after Hurricane Sandy. Image credit: 6 ABC Action News.

The 1903 Vagabond Hurricane
The only other hurricane to hit New Jersey since 1851 besides Sandy was the 1903 Category 1 Vagabond Hurricane. According to Wikipedia, the Vagabond Hurricane caused heavy damage along the New Jersey coast ($180 million in 2006 dollars.) The hurricane killed 57 people, and endangered the life of President Theodore Roosevelt, who was sailing on a yacht near Long Island, NY, when the hurricane hit. However, the Vagabond Hurricane hit in September, when the jet stream is typically weaker and farther to the north. It is quite extraordinary that Sandy was able to hit New Jersey in late October, when the jet stream is typically stronger and farther south, making recurvature to the northeast much more likely than in September.


Figure 2. The path of the 1903 Vagabond Hurricane, the only other hurricane to hit New Jersey since 1851.

The blocking ridge that steered Sandy into New Jersey
A strong ridge of high pressure parked itself over Greenland beginning on October 20, creating a "blocking ridge" that prevented the normal west-to-east flow of winds over Eastern North America. Think of the blocking ridge like a big truck parked over Greenland. Storms approaching from the west (like the fall low pressure system that moved across the U.S. from California to Pennsylvania last week) or from the south (Hurricane Sandy) were blocked from heading to the northeast. Caught in the equivalent of an atmospheric traffic jam, the two storms collided over the Northeast U.S., combined into one, and are now waiting for the truck parked over Greenland to move. The strength of the blocking ridge, as measured by the strength of the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO), was quite high--about two standard deviations from average, something that occurs approximately 5% of the time. When the NAO is in a strong negative phase, we tend to have blocking ridges over Greenland.


Figure 3. Jet stream winds at a pressure of 300 mb on October 29, 2012, as Hurricane Sandy approached the coast of New Jersey. Note that the wind direction over New Jersey (black arrows) was from the southeast, due to a negatively tilted trough of low pressure over the Eastern U.S. caused by a strong blocking ridge of high pressure over Greenland. Image credit: NOAA/ESRL.

Arctic sea ice loss can cause blocking ridges
Blocking ridges occur naturally, but are uncommon over Greenland this time of year. According to NOAA's Climate Prediction Center, blocking near the longitude of Greenland (50°W) only occurs about 2% of the time in the fall. These odds rise to about 6% in winter and spring. As I discussed in an April post, Arctic sea ice loss tied to unusual jet stream patterns, three studies published in the past year have found that the jet stream has been getting stuck in unusually strong blocking patterns in recent years. These studies found that the recent record decline in Arctic sea ice could be responsible, since this heats up the pole, altering the Equator-to-pole temperature difference, forcing the jet stream to slow down, meander, and get stuck in large loops. The 2012 Arctic sea ice melt season was extreme, with sea ice extent hitting a record lows. Could sea ice loss have contributed to the blocking ridge that steered Sandy into New Jersey? It is possible, but we will need to much more research on the subject before we make such a link, as the studies of sea ice loss on jet stream patterns are so new. The author of one of the new studies, Dr. Jennifer Francis of Rutgers, had this say in a recent post by Andy Revkin in his Dot Earth blog: "While it’s impossible to say how this scenario might have unfolded if sea-ice had been as extensive as it was in the 1980s, the situation at hand is completely consistent with what I’d expect to see happen more often as a result of unabated warming and especially the amplification of that warming in the Arctic."

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251. CaicosRetiredSailor 10:49 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
Quoting SyriboTigereyes:
Hey bloggers. This is my first update since Monday night when we lost power at about 8pm and wifi at about 11pm.

This has been an unbelievable week so far. I. Glad for the NHC, the blog, and the models who predicted this right and allowed us ample time to prepare. Too bad a lot of people I know didn't heed my warnings and listen to me. But we are doing well so far.


GREAT TO HEAR FROM YOU!

Hang in there...
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252. MAweatherboy1 10:50 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
2nd GFS run in a row showing long range Caribbean development:

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253. wxchaser97 10:51 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
2nd GFS run in a row showing long range Caribbean development:


If the GFS start to get consistency, then it could very well happen. The season is not over yet.
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254. guygee 10:53 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
Quoting Neapolitan:
I haven't seen the following video posted here; if it has been, pardon the duplicate. It's a pretty large tree with an inadequately-anchored roof system succumbing to Sandy's winds:

Thanks for that. Sometimes a shallow root system is a characteristic of the species, but many times shallow roots result from over-watering or over-irrigating.
Besides people's lush over-watered lawns, a lot of trees along rivers, streams and ponds come down for the same reason.
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255. weatherskink 10:54 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
Quoting islander101010:
merritt island florida is invested with rats big ones too. i hate hurricanes but rats even more


So is Wall Street .
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256. Slamguitar 10:58 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
Happy Samhain everyone!!



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257. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:12 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
Hurricane Sandy was forecast pretty accurately 15 years ago. Same name, same track. The intensity and dates were a bit off.

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258. indianrivguy 11:25 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
A lot of deciduous trees evolved in a forest setting where the trees protected each other and never developed deep tap roots. The roots spread out to compete for nutrition. Like a rain forest has little wind resistance. Once the ground gets wet, the movement of the roots liquifies the soils, which usually have some clay present, they no longer provide friction..grip, the stress localizes and causes failures that allow toppling.

There other specialized root systems, such as mangrove, Australian pine (it is actually an oak/hickory) and cypress that have shallow roots because they evolved where there is no oxygen below the surface.
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259. falloch 11:25 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
Anyone have news about Mantoloking - on the Jersey shore? Saw bad reports about there last night. Old acquaintences there and fond memories - I fear all that will be left are the fond memories, looking at earlier reports.
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260. CaicosRetiredSailor 11:38 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
GRIDLOCK... leads to:

Mayor to mandate car passenger minimums in Manhattan

By JENNIFER FERMINO and SALLY GOLDENBERG
Last Updated: 5:57 PM, October 31, 2012
Posted: 2:09 PM, October 31, 2012

Cars with less than three passengers will be virtually barred from entering Manhattan, Mayor Bloomberg announced today, in a desperate bid to relief gridlocked city streets.

This post-Hurricane Sandy rule will be enforced from 6 a.m. to midnight tomorrow and Friday.

"To reduce the number of cars coming into Manhattan, however, we have to take some steps. The streets just cannot handle the number of cars that have tried to come in," the mayor said today.

"I know it is inconvenient for a lot of people. But the bottom line is the streets can only handle so much."

The restrictions will be enforced on all Manhattan -bound bridges and tunnels --
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262. HadesGodWyvern 11:40 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
India Meteorological Department
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #23
DEEP DEPRESSION, FORMER NILAM (BOB02-2012)
23:30 PM IST October 31 2012
=============================================

At 18:00 PM UTC, the cyclonic storm moved northwestward and weakened into a deep depression. Deep Depression, Former Nilam now lays over northern Tamil Nadu and adjoining areas of Rayalaseema and interior Karnataka or near 13.5N 78.5E. The system is likely to move west northwestward and weaken further into a depression during the next 12 hours
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263. CaicosRetiredSailor 11:43 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    


MANTOLOKING, N.J. (AP) — New Jersey's delicate barrier islands, long and slender strips of land cherished by generations of sunbathing vacationers and full-time residents alike, are a hazardous wasteland of badly eroded shore, ruined beachfront homes, flooded streets and damaged utilities.

The full extent of the devastation on the island that hosts MTV's "Jersey Shore" came into sharper focus Wednesday, and it wasn't a pretty sight. Signs of the good life that had defined wealthy enclaves like Bayhead and Mantoloking lie scattered and broken: $3,000 barbecue grills buried beneath the sand and hot tubs cracked and filled with seawater.

Nearly all the homes were seriously damaged, and many were destroyed — no trace of them left.

"This," said Harry Typaldos, who owns the Grenville Inn in Mantoloking, "I just can't comprehend."
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264. CybrTeddy 11:46 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
2nd GFS run in a row showing long range Caribbean development:



Would probably be similar to Ida or Paloma. We'll see what happens, as much as the horrors that have unfolded in the North-east after Hurricane Sandy continues to dawn on us, the season continues..
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265. bappit 11:48 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:


MANTOLOKING, N.J. (AP) — "This," said Harry Typaldos, who owns the Grenville Inn in Mantoloking, "I just can't comprehend."

I guess Harry never pays attention when a strong hurricane makes landfall in the southern US or elsewhere in the world for that matter.
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266. 2ifbyC 11:50 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
#231

Finally got to give you a like! 8-)
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267. CaicosRetiredSailor 11:52 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
New York (CNN) -- Engineers have determined a storm-battered crane that is dangling over Midtown Manhattan is securely fastened to a high-rise building under construction, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Wednesday.

Crews will "have to construct another crane on top of it in order to take down this one," the mayor told reporters.

"There was enormous torque when the crane fell over and the fact that those connectors have withstood the pressure just testifies to how well they were put in and how stable that tower is," Bloomberg said.
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268. Tropicsweatherpr 11:52 PM GMT on October 31, 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Would probably be similar to Ida or Paloma. We'll see what happens, as much as the horrors that have unfolded in the North-east after Hurricane Sandy continues to dawn on us, the season continues..


It would be nice if Euro starts to show it to get a better consensus.
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269. ZeusWrath 12:05 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
2nd GFS run in a row showing long range Caribbean development:



and here we go..its seems valerie and william dont want to miss a thing...
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270. TropicalAnalystwx13 12:06 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:


It would be even better if Euro starts to show it to get a better consensus.

This is beyond the ECMWF's time.
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271. CaicosRetiredSailor 12:10 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Eager to get back online, hoards of people were on the hunt for electricity and crowded around any outlet with a live current.

Robert Romiti, a graphic designer, told NBC News he had walked from South Street in Lower Manhattan in search of electricity to charge his iPhone. He finally found an improvised charging station at the corner of 36th Street and Fifth Avenue, about three miles from his apartment, where a condominium tower had put out several surge protectors for passers-by. About 20 people were huddled around it. Romiti said a similar improvised power station six blocks south was fully occupied.
 
At the main branch of the Montclair Public Library, where a line formed before its 10 a.m. opening, several hundred people were using every available outlet to charge computers and cellphones, with some sprawled on floors near electrical plugs. Library staffers opened an auditorium, additional conference rooms and arranged for a branch building to open Wednesday to accommodate townspeople without electricity.

“We’re trying our best to serve the public the best we can,” said library supervisor Dawn Quinn.

NBCNews.com
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272. presslord 12:13 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Attention all hands!!!!!

Anyone is NJ - Call for assistance: I've had no power since Mon night. We've been using a generator for my respirator and the boiler. Will run out of fuel tomorrow and there doesn't seem to be any in the area. My brother has tried many gas stations today!
If anyone in N or Central Jersey can get cans of gas please do so! I live in Maplewood, but someone in my family could pick it up from you if necessary. I don't have Internet or phone access but can sometimes receive text messages at 973-763-7059. You can also email my aunt, who can try to reach me, at ehnissen@gmail.com. Please repost.
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273. LargoFl 12:15 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
Eager to get back online, hoards of people were on the hunt for electricity and crowded around any outlet with a live current.

Robert Romiti, a graphic designer, told NBC News he had walked from South Street in Lower Manhattan in search of electricity to charge his iPhone. He finally found an improvised charging station at the corner of 36th Street and Fifth Avenue, about three miles from his apartment, where a condominium tower had put out several surge protectors for passers-by. About 20 people were huddled around it. Romiti said a similar improvised power station six blocks south was fully occupied.
 
At the main branch of the Montclair Public Library, where a line formed before its 10 a.m. opening, several hundred people were using every available outlet to charge computers and cellphones, with some sprawled on floors near electrical plugs. Library staffers opened an auditorium, additional conference rooms and arranged for a branch building to open Wednesday to accommodate townspeople without electricity.

“We’re trying our best to serve the public the best we can,” said library supervisor Dawn Quinn.

NBCNews.com
THIS IS ONE TERRIBLE SITUATION UP THERE
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274. LargoFl 12:16 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Quoting ZeusWrath:


and here we go..its seems valerie and william dont want to miss a thing...
as long as any of these dont go to the northeast coast..all of us in other places can handle whatever comes
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275. KoritheMan 12:16 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
I don't care whether the next storm develops in the Atlantic, in the Caribbean, in the Gulf, or even at the North Pole. I'm sick of forecasting. I need a much-needed break, then it's time to do my TCRs. I only have until May 15 of next year (start of the 2013 Eastern Pacific hurricane season) to finish reports on 36 storms (more than that if we get anymore in either basin), plus a "best track" for all of them.

And as cool as it's been to see this list long smash its ridiculous curse, enough is enough. :/
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276. SyriboTigereyes 12:17 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Here are some images I took on my iPad from around here while I'm still at my friends and have internet:


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277. wxchaser97 12:18 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Quoting KoritheMan:
I don't care whether the next storm develops in the Atlantic, in the Caribbean, in the Gulf, or even at the North Pole. I'm sick of forecasting. I need a much-needed break, then it's time to do my TCRs. I only have until May 15 of next year (start of the 2013 Eastern Pacific hurricane season) to finish reports on 35 storms (more than that if we get anymore in either basin), plus a "best track" for all of them.

And as cool as it's been to see this late long smash its ridiculous curse, enough is enough. :/

Just for you then, we will have a few more storms in the Atlantic and EPAC... Seriously though, I do think we will have at least 1 more storm.
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278. ZeusWrath 12:18 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Quoting LargoFl:
as long as any of these dont go to the northeast coast..all of us in other places can handle whatever comes


agreed i hope so also.
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279. LargoFl 12:20 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Quoting bappit:

I guess Harry never pays attention when a strong hurricane makes landfall in the southern US or elsewhere in the world for that matter.
in a way thats true,i said days ago this would be alearning lesson to an area that doesnt get land falling hurricanes, now..geez have they..now they have learned just how horrible it can be..just think of Katrina when she hit..or wilma or any of the other large hurricanes..next time they say a hurricane is headed for the northeast..for sure..they wuill prepare..not laughing at them in any way shape or form here..i grew up there and im seeing devastation in places i useed to shop and walk around in..geez its horrible there
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280. LostTomorrows 12:20 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Quoting LargoFl:
THIS IS ONE TERRIBLE SITUATION UP THERE


s that a joke? I would be helping out with relief efforts for my city and, when I wanted to do something for myself, run amok. Strangely, I still remember how to live without electricity. Unless those people are all there because it's absolutely necessary for work, then it's kind of sad, and not in an actually sad way.

That being said, reading of the extensive damage in places really sells the terrifying scope of how much damage can be wrought by hurricanes. People and communities these days tend to think they are invulnerable, and it often leads to rude wake-up calls when mother Nature comes to break down your door.
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281. procharged 12:23 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
I have been watching your site for about 3 years and the site is great and the only one I really trust. I finally decided to join. The hurricane was just a disaster I live in swedesboro nj and i can tell u it was unbelievable when the eye came over and it went dead silent and then it turned back on with a vengeance. To talk about another tropical system at this point when nothing is even going on in the atlantic right now is not a good idea and should not even be mentioned. People in nj, pa, and ny are devastated and dont need to hear things like that when nothing is even going on. We should hope for alot of good weather ahead to help with the rebuild process. With our economy in this state the last thing we need are big storms and alot of snow in the mid atlantic and northeast. Last years warm winter really helped the economy and we should hope for the same this year.
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282. LargoFl 12:23 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
a friend i grew up with lives out on Long island, he just had a brand new Kitchen, all new put in two weeks ago..when sandy came..a hundred year old tree toppled over on his house and leveled the kitchen, not a wall standing..horror story after horror story up there..luckily it didnt hurt the family and kids..
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283. afj3 12:23 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Did I see this right? Did the GFS predict another storm off New England (though this time not near as severe and staying mostly offshore?)

right?
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284. KoritheMan 12:24 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Quoting LostTomorrows:


s that a joke? I would be helping out with relief efforts for my city and, when I wanted to do something for myself, run amok. Strangely, I still remember how to live without electricity. Unless those people are all there because it's absolutely necessary for work, then it's kind of sad, and not in an actually sad way.

That being said, reading of the extensive damage in places really sells the terrifying scope of how much damage can be wrought by hurricanes. People and communities these days tend to think they are invulnerable, and it often leads to rude wake-up calls when mother Nature comes to break down your door.


No one is invulnerable. That's why it's called hurricane season, guys.
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285. CaicosRetiredSailor 12:26 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Any gasoline or other fuel-supply crunches probably will be isolated, said Andrew Lipow, president of consulting firm Lipow Oil Associates. "We have supply returning to the East Coast, supply from imports waiting to come back in, and we have lost a significant amount of demand in the New York-Washington D.C. corridor," he said. Philadelphia Energy Solutions, which operates a 330,000 barrel-a-day oil refinery, said Tuesday morning it had begun to restore normal operations.

The U.S. Department of Energy said about 26% of the Northeast's fuel-making capacity, nearly all in the area affected by Sandy, remained off line. Two refineries, Phillips 66's PSX -0.72% Linden, N.J. refinery, and Hess Corp.'s HES -1.84% facility in Port Reading, N.J., which together produce about 308,000 barrels a day, were completely shut down. Facilities with a processing capacity of 862,200 barrels a day, or about 74% of the region's total, were operating at reduced rates, according to the department.

Kyle Cooper, a managing partner at Houston's IAF Energy Advisors, said once power is restored, refineries could be running within a day or two, barring unforeseen problems.

Even so, given the size of the storm and the extent of flooding, Mr. Cooper said issues could surface that might delay the starting and repair process. "The littlest bit of saltwater in the wrong place, when you flip the switch you'll have a short," he said.

via WSJ.com
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286. LargoFl 12:31 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Quoting LostTomorrows:


s that a joke? I would be helping out with relief efforts for my city and, when I wanted to do something for myself, run amok. Strangely, I still remember how to live without electricity. Unless those people are all there because it's absolutely necessary for work, then it's kind of sad, and not in an actually sad way.

That being said, reading of the extensive damage in places really sells the terrifying scope of how much damage can be wrought by hurricanes. People and communities these days tend to think they are invulnerable, and it often leads to rude wake-up calls when mother Nature comes to break down your door.
yes i cannot imagine, told to evacuate..come back later on..and just see rubble on a foundation..OMG
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287. LargoFl 12:34 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
folks..geez..GFS at 168 hours
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288. CaicosRetiredSailor 12:36 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Rain for Rent, a national provider of rental and temporary liquid-handling solutions with a branch on McDonald Avenue in Joliet, trucked the pumps to the Army Corps of Engineers on Tuesday. Each diesel-powered machine is capable of pumping 25,000 gallons per minute of water out of subway stations, tunnels, streets or wherever needed.

“They are the largest centrifugal pumps there are in the country,” branch manager Mike Zudycki said. “They are usually used for industrial applications.”

Zudycki said he believes these units are destined specifically for flooded transportation hubs. His store has helped the corps with several emergency disaster relief efforts, most recently last year with the Missouri River flooding of Omaha, Neb.

The company already had some pumps available in the New York City area, Zudycki said, and it transported other units from various other branches.

That the pumps are diesel is essential, with electricity out in much of the areas hardest hit.


via heraldnewssuntimes.com
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289. procharged 12:36 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
The New jersey and New york shipping piers have been closed for 3 days now the economic impacts are going to be severe and a disaster.
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290. LargoFl 12:36 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
GFS at 150 hours
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291. LargoFl 12:37 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Quoting procharged:
The New jersey and New york shipping piers have been closed for 3 days now the economic impacts are going to be severe and a disaster.
yes I wonder if something like this..could it start another Depression like the 30's? since we already are weak, so much is damaged and ruined and even taken away altogether up there
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292. SyriboTigereyes 12:38 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    


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293. LargoFl 12:40 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
GFS at 138 hours,yep something coming up the coast
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294. LargoFl 12:43 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Nam has something there 850 vort in 36 hours
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295. Dakster 12:44 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Quoting indianrivguy:
A lot of deciduous trees evolved in a forest setting where the trees protected each other and never developed deep tap roots. The roots spread out to compete for nutrition. Like a rain forest has little wind resistance. Once the ground gets wet, the movement of the roots liquifies the soils, which usually have some clay present, they no longer provide friction..grip, the stress localizes and causes failures that allow toppling.

There other specialized root systems, such as mangrove, Australian pine (it is actually an oak/hickory) and cypress that have shallow roots because they evolved where there is no oxygen below the surface.


As always you are a wealth of information. I always enjoy reading your posts regarding the vegation and habitat of Florida.
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296. airmet3 12:46 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
Eager to get back online, hoards of people were on the hunt for electricity and crowded around any outlet with a live current.

Robert Romiti, a graphic designer, told NBC News he had walked from South Street in Lower Manhattan in search of electricity to charge his iPhone. He finally found an improvised charging station at the corner of 36th Street and Fifth Avenue, about three miles from his apartment, where a condominium tower had put out several surge protectors for passers-by. About 20 people were huddled around it. Romiti said a similar improvised power station six blocks south was fully occupied.
 
At the main branch of the Montclair Public Library, where a line formed before its 10 a.m. opening, several hundred people were using every available outlet to charge computers and cellphones, with some sprawled on floors near electrical plugs. Library staffers opened an auditorium, additional conference rooms and arranged for a branch building to open Wednesday to accommodate townspeople without electricity.

“We’re trying our best to serve the public the best we can,” said library supervisor Dawn Quinn.

NBCNews.com


This really is amazing and tells alot about how we live our lives. Makes you wonder what would happen if someone was able to hack into the grid.
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297. LargoFl 12:46 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
GEFS has it at 48 hours but comes from the great lakes..is it at all possible..Sandy comes back?????
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298. CaicosRetiredSailor 12:50 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Stand Down from Maritime Port Condition ZULU

The Coast Guard Captain of the Port has authorized the Port of Long Island Sound to resume operations as of 4 p.m., yesterday.

The COTP is working closely with the port industry, NOAA, Army Corps of Engineers, and Connecticut and New York state agencies to minimize risk as the port returns to normalcy.


via maritime-executive.com
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299. LargoFl 12:50 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
GEF model spread at 144 hours...............
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300. airmet3 12:51 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
Rain for Rent, a national provider of rental and temporary liquid-handling solutions with a branch on McDonald Avenue in Joliet, trucked the pumps to the Army Corps of Engineers on Tuesday. Each diesel-powered machine is capable of pumping 25,000 gallons per minute of water out of subway stations, tunnels, streets or wherever needed.

“They are the largest centrifugal pumps there are in the country,” branch manager Mike Zudycki said. “They are usually used for industrial applications.”

Zudycki said he believes these units are destined specifically for flooded transportation hubs. His store has helped the corps with several emergency disaster relief efforts, most recently last year with the Missouri River flooding of Omaha, Neb.

The company already had some pumps available in the New York City area, Zudycki said, and it transported other units from various other branches.

That the pumps are diesel is essential, with electricity out in much of the areas hardest hit.


via heraldnewssuntimes.com


After Ike, diesel started running in short supply in Houston after day 6. More and more fuel was going to FEMA to support their efforts and less to the local distributors. I hope all of these folks do not run into the same issue.
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301. procharged 12:53 AM GMT on November 01, 2012    
Quoting LargoFl:
yes I wonder if something like this..could it start another Depression like the 30's? since we already are weak, so much is damaged and ruined and even taken away altogether up there


I think this incident will put a huge strain on the economy and puts us one step further to a depression. The world economy is in a very fragil state and all eyes are on us right now and how we are doing. There is alot of fear out there about the world economy and this just creates even more.
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