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Superstorm Sandy intensifying, bringing record storm surges
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:54 PM GMT on October 29, 2012 +63
The final countdown to Hurricane Sandy's arrival has begun, and this extraordinary and historic storm is already causing havoc all along the U.S. coast from North Carolina to Massachusetts. The scale of this massive storm truly earns Sandy the title of "superstorm". Sandy's tropical storm-force winds span an area of ocean 940 miles in diameter, and both North Carolina and the island of Bermuda, 700 miles to the east, are under tropical storm warnings. The region of ocean covered by 12-foot high seas spans an area of ocean an incredible 1560 miles in diameter. Winds near hurricane force are expected to affect waters from Virginia to Massachusetts today. Record storm surge flooding has already occurred in regions along the New Jersey coast this morning, and the highest water levels recorded in over a century of record keeping are expected over much of the New Jersey and New York coasts this evening during the 8 - 9 pm EDT high tide cycle. Sandy brought sustained winds of 60 mph and waves 30 feet high early this morning to the buoy east of Cape Hatteras, NC. A wind gust of 58 mph occurred at New York City's La Guardia Airport at 9:51 am EDT, and a buoy at Robins Reef, NJ recorded sustained winds of 42 mph, gusting to 55 mph. As of 8 am EDT, Sandy has dumped heavy rains of 7.87" at Cape Hatteras, NC; 4.01" at Ocean City, MD; 3.12" at Dover, DE; and 3.22" at Virginia Beach, VA. As of 9 am EDT, peak storm surge values of 5" were observed at Lewes, Delaware, 4.2' at Cape May, NJ, 4' at Atlantic City, NJ, 2.9' at Philadelphia, and 3.9' at New York City.

Latest data from the Hurricane Hunters shows that Sandy is intensifying as its core traverses the warm waters of the Gulf Stream. At 8 am EDT, an Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft found top winds of 98 mph in the heavy thunderstorms to the southwest of Sandy's center, at a point about 150 miles east-northeast of Cape Hatteras, NC. A dropsonde released in the eye measured a central pressure of 945 mb, but observed winds of 19 knots at the surface, so Sandy is probably a 943 mb hurricane that is very close to Category 2 strength. The Hurricane Hunters did not observe an eyewall, and saw very little temperature difference from inside to outside the eye, so Sandy is not going to be able to undergo rapid intensification. The storm could still see an increase of 5 mph in its winds before landfall tonight between 6 pm - 10 pm EDT, due, in part, to interaction with the low pressure system to its west that is pulling the hurricane towards the coast. The new, higher winds of Sandy don't have a lot of time to pile up additional storm surge water, so the NHC storm surge forecasts will probably not change today. But it is clear that Sandy is not going to pull its punch, and this superstorm is going to deliver a punishing multi-billion dollar blow to a huge area of the Eastern U.S.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Hurricane Sandy.

Sandy already producing a record storm surge
The National Weather Service in Atlantic City, NJ said that isolated record storm surge flooding already occurred along portions of the New Jersey coast with this morning's 7:30 am EDT high tide cycle. As the tide goes out late this morning and this afternoon, water levels will fall, since the difference in water levels between low tide and high tide is about 5'. However, this evening, as the core of Sandy moves ashore, the storm will carry with it a gigantic bulge of water that will raise waters levels to the highest storm tides ever seen in over a century of record keeping, along much of the coastline of New Jersey and New York. The peak danger will be between 7 pm - 10 pm, when storm surge rides in on top of the high tide. The full moon is today, which means astronomical high tide will be about 5% higher than the average high tide for the month, adding another 2 - 3" to water levels. This morning's 9:30 am EDT H*Wind analysis from NOAA's Hurricane Research Division put the destructive potential of Sandy's winds at a modest 2.9 on a scale of 0 to 6. However, the destructive potential of the storm surge was record high: 5.8 on a scale of 0 to 6. This is a higher destructive potential than any hurricane observed since 1969, including Category 5 storms like Katrina, Rita, Wilma, Camille, and Andrew. The previous highest destructive potential for storm surge was 5.6 on a scale of 0 to 6, set during Hurricane Isabel of 2003. Sandy's storm surge will be capable of overtopping the flood walls in Manhattan, which are only five feet above mean sea level. On August 28, 2011, Tropical Storm Irene brought a storm surge of 4.13' and a storm tide of 9.5' above MLLW to Battery Park on the south side of Manhattan. The waters poured over the flood walls into Lower Manhattan, but came 8 - 12" shy of being able to flood the New York City subway system. According to the latest storm surge forecast for NYC from NHC, Sandy's storm surge is expected to be 10 - 12' above MLLW. Since a storm tide of 10.5' is needed to flood the subway system, it appears likely that portions of the NYC subway system will flood. The record highest storm tide at The Battery was 10.5', set on September 15, 1960, during Hurricane Donna.


Figure 2. Observed storm tide (red line) and predicted storm surge for Hurricane Sandy at The Battery on the south shore of Manhattan, New York City, from the experimental Extratropical Storm Surge model, run by NOAA"s Meteorological Development Laboratory (green line) and the NYHOPS model from the Stevens Institute of Technology (pink curve), which uses a highly detailed 3D ocean model and even includes rainfall and tributary inflows. These models have a storm surge of 5 - 6', which brings the maximum storm tide--the water level reached as a result of the combined action of the tide and the storm surge--to 11' above MLLW (Mean Lower Low Water.) Irene brought a storm tide of 9.5' above MLLW to The Battery in 2011. At a storm tide of 10.5', water will likely pour into the Lower Manhattan subway system, unless efforts to sandbag the entrances are successful. The NWS in NYC is predicting a 10 - 12' storm tide at The Battery during tonight's 9 pm high tide cycle.


Figure 3. Observed storm tide (red line) and predicted storm surge for Hurricane Sandy at Atlantic City, New Jersey, from the experimental Extratropical Storm Surge model, run by NOAA"s Meteorological Development Laboratory (green line) and the NYHOPS model from the Stevens Institute of Technology (pink curve), which uses a highly detailed 3D ocean model and even includes rainfall and tributary inflows. These models predict a maximum storm tide--the water level reached as a result of the combined action of the tide and the storm surge--of ' above MLLW (Mean Lower Low Water.) Irene brought a storm tide of 9.5' above MLLW to The Battery in 2011. At a storm tide of 10.5', water will likely pour into the Lower Manhattan subway system, unless efforts to sandbag the entrances are successful. The NWS in Atlantic City is predicting a 9.5' storm tide for the city during tonight's 8 pm high tide cycle, which would be the highest water levels ever observed in Atlantic City.

Links for Sandy
To find out if you need to evacuate, please contact your local emergency management office. They will have the latest information. People living in New York City can find their evacuation zone here or use this map. FEMA has information on preparing for hurricanes.

People with disabilities and caregivers seeking information on accessible shelter and transportation can contact portlight.org

Atlantic City beach cam

Ocean City, MD webcam

Statue of Liberty cam

An impressive 1-minute resolution satellite loop of Sandy today is at the CSU RAMMB website.

Our Weather Historian, Christopher C. Burt, has an excellent post on Late Season Tropical Storms that have affected the U.S. north of Hatteras. He also has a post, Historic Hurricanes from New Jersey to New England.

Hurricane Sandy info from NASA.

Joe Romm at climateprogress.org has a thoughtful piece called, How Does Global Warming Make Hurricanes Like Irene More Destructive?

For those of you wanting to know your odds of receiving hurricane force or tropical storm force winds, I recommend the NHC wind probability product.

Wunderground has detailed storm surge maps for the U.S. coast.

The National Hurricane Center's Interactive Storm Surge RIsk Map, which allows one to pick a particular Category hurricane and zoom in, is a good source of storm surge risk information.

Storm Surge prediction model from the Stevens Institute of Technology, which use a highly detailed 3D ocean model and even includes rainfall and tributary inflows.

Research storm surge model run by SUNY Stonybrook for New York City.

Climate Central has a nice satellite image showing which parts of New York Harbor are below five feet in elevation.

I'll have an update this afternoon.

Jeff Masters
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501. SyriboTigereyes 5:41 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    


A friend sent me this from Levittown. We are "only" getting gusts around 40mph and the trees are already coming up in Nassau County in places. Wow.
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502. wolftribe2009 5:41 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting washingtonian115:
People still on the streets in downtown D.C as conditions continue to rapidly deteriorate.Stores starting to close down except for super markets but I expect that to close down in about two hours.People here in D.C think we'll be safe and Sandy will be nothing to worry about.Have they forgotten about Isabel?.


BREAKING:Power beginning to go out in places I probably only have two hours in a half left of it before mine goes out with this high gust.


it isn't only washington DC. I am hearing people out all along the east coast. The fact that people are allowed in ZONE A In NYC right now is beyond me. I think that is where Jim Cantore told us he was located.
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503. Swede38 5:41 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting ConnecticutWXGuy:


That's a photoshopped picture (and badly done, as well). The supercell is a photo taken from the severe outbreak caused by Hurricane Ivan. It is often circulated as "proof" that UFO's are causing an increase in severe weather. It is actually quite a famous photo for that hoax. Loading it up into photoshop and separating the layers, you can see that whoever did this only spent about 10 minutes on it. I'm disappointed.
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504. Articuno 5:42 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting LargoFl:

Almost looks like its moving due west.
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505. ScottLincoln 5:42 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting breeezee:
looks really disorganized from a true warm core type tropical system,but saying that the pressure at 27.81 in if it was a total warm core system in the gulf we would be looking at winds approaching 150mph


Its not exactly a matter of warm core vs cold core, or east coast vs gulf coast. It's a matter of storm size, and thus, pressure gradient force. A warm-core storm of this size with similar pressure would have similar winds.
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506. tropicfreak 5:42 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Here in Richmond VA we've been hammered since this morning. Winds are coming in gusts but not very consistent wind. Having a really heavy rain band bringing TS force gusts. Wish me luck and hope I don't lose power... that will be hard to come by later this evening. Pouring outside though.

Imo, based on it's current trajectory I am saying a landfall in Delaware seems likely. That's not good though, puts me in seeing near hurricane force gusts. Hanging on in here, hope all is well by the end.

Pressure on my weather station has dipped below 29.00 inches, the first time it has ever done so in my nearly 2 years of ownership. Now at 28.97. That's 981 mb if you convert it.

Wish me luck as I'm hanging in there!
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507. LargoFl 5:42 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
...SANDY TO BRING NEAR HURRICANE FORCE WINDS AND FLOOD-PRODUCING
HEAVY RAINFALL TO MUCH OF THE REGION THROUGH TUESDAY...

THIS STATEMENT IS FOR THE GREATER BALTIMORE/WASHINGTON
METROPOLITAN AREAS, INCLUDING THE MARYLAND PORTION OF THE
CHESAPEAKE BAY, TIDAL POTOMAC RIVER, MARYLAND FROM THE WESTERN
SHORE OF THE CHESAPEAKE BAY TO GARRETT COUNTY, NORTHERN VIRGINIA,
AND EXTREME EASTERN WEST VIRGINIA. THE OBJECTIVE OF THIS STATEMENT IS
TO PROVIDE A SINGLE PRODUCT THAT INTEGRATES THE WARNING PRODUCTS
ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE/WASHINGTON
WEATHER FORECAST OFFICE.

SANDY LOCAL STATEMENTS WILL BE RELEASED EVERY 6 HOURS THROUGH
WEDNESDAY MORNING AT THE FOLLOWING RELEASE TIMES: 11 PM...5 AM...
11 AM...AND 5 PM.

AT 11 AM EDT...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE SANDY WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 37.5N...LONGITUDE 71.5W. THIS WAS ABOUT 315 MILES EAST
OF WASHINGTON DC. SANDY WAS MOVING NORTHWEST AT 18 MPH...WITH
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS OF 90 MPH. SANDY IS FORECAST TO MAKE
LANDFALL ALONG THE SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY COAST EARLY TONIGHT...WITH
A LITTLE STRENGTHENING POSSIBLE BEFORE LANDFALL. SANDY WILL
SEVERELY IMPACT THE REGION WELL BEFORE IT COMES ASHORE.

SUMMARY OF THREATS
------------------
* THE MAIN IMMEDIATE THREATS FOR SANDY WILL BE STRONG WINDS
RESULTING IN WIDESPREAD DOWNED TREES AND POWER/COMMUNICATIONS
OUTAGES...AND HEAVY RAINS WHICH WILL RESULT IN EXTENSIVE
FLOODING OF LOCAL STREAMS AND CREEKS.
* BLIZZARD CONDITIONS ARE FORECAST IN THE POTOMAC HIGHLANDS AT
ELEVATIONS ABOVE 2000 FEET WHERE 18 TO 24 INCHES ARE FORECAST.
* MAJOR RIVER FLOODING IS LIKELY TO OCCUR...STARTING THIS
AFTERNOON ON SMALLER WATERSHEDS WHICH WILL LEAD TO FLOODING ON
THE MAIN-STEM RIVERS SUCH AS THE POTOMAC AND THE SHENANDOAH.

CHANGES SINCE LAST LOCAL STATEMENT
----------------------------------
* THE TIMING OF THE PEAK WINDS FROM SANDY ARE NOW EXPECTED FROM
LATE THIS AFTERNOON TO DAYBREAK ON WEDNESDAY.
* RAINFALL AMOUNTS HAVE BEEN INCREASED. THE GREATER BALTIMORE
METRO AREA IS NOW FORECAST TO RECEIVE 8 TO 12 INCHES OF
RAIN...WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS.
* THE POTOMAC RIVER IS LIKELY TO GO INTO FLOOD STAGE BEGINNING
AROUND WEDNESDAY AND LASTING THROUGH FRIDAY.

HIGH WINDS
----------
* WINDS WILL INCREASE STEADILY TODAY...WITH THE MAXIMUM WIND GUSTS
OCCURRING LATE THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING.
* GENERALLY...SUSTAINED WINDS OF 30 TO 50 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 60 MPH
CAN BE EXPECTED ACROSS THE ENTIRE REGION.
* HURRICANE FORCE WIND GUSTS OF 70 AND POSSIBLY 80 MPH ARE
EXPECTED TO IMPACT A REGION LOCATED BETWEEN BEL AIR MD...POINT
LOOKOUT MD...AND HAGERSTOWN MD BETWEEN 6 PM THIS EVENING TO 6 AM
TUESDAY. THIS INCLUDES THE GREATER BALTIMORE AND WASHINGTON
METROPOLITAN AREAS.
* COUPLED WITH HEAVY RAINS FROM SANDY...THE HIGH WINDS WILL RESULT
IN SIGNIFICANT TREE DAMAGE AND POWER LINE DAMAGE.

RAINFALL AND FLOODING
---------------------
* 8 TO 12 INCHES OF RAIN IN NORTHEAST AND NORTH CENTRAL MD
INCLUDING THE BALTIMORE METRO AREA AND ALONG THE WEST SHORE OF
THE BAY.
* 5 TO 10 INCHES OF RAIN IS EXPECTED ACROSS THE FREDERICK...
WASHINGTON AND FREDERICKSBURG METRO AREAS.
* 3 TO 6 INCHES OF RAIN IS EXPECTED FOR EASTERN WEST VIRGINIA AND
VIRGINIA...WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE DC METRO COUNTIES...AS WELL
AS WESTERN MARYLAND WEST OF HANCOCK MD.
* THIS AMOUNT OF RAIN WILL LIKELY RESULT IN EXTENSIVE AND DANGEROUS
FLOODING OF LOCAL STREAMS AND CREEKS STARTING THIS AFTERNOON AND
LASTING INTO WEDNESDAY.

MAIN-STEM RIVER FLOODING
------------------------
* THE POTOMAC RIVER WILL LIKELY START FLOODING TUESDAY NIGHT AND
CONTINUE THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK.
* THE MONOCACY RIVER IS FORECAST TO FLOOD LATER TODAY AND CONTINUE
TO BE IN MAJOR FLOOD THROUGH EARLY THURSDAY. LEVELS FORECAST
HAVE NOT BEEN SEEN SINCE AGNES IN 1972.

COASTAL FLOODING
----------------
* WITH THE FULL MOON ON MONDAY...ASTRONOMICAL TIDES ARE ALREADY
HIGHER THAN NORMAL. COUNTER TO THE HIGHER THAN NORMAL
ASTRONOMICAL TIDES...STRONG NORTH AND NORTHWESTERLY WINDS
TODAY WILL CAUSE A BLOW-OUT TIDE ALONG THE WESTERN SHORE OF THE
CHESAPEAKE AND THE TIDAL POTOMAC RIVER TODAY. EAST FACING BEACHES
ALONG THE TIDAL POTOMAC WILL EXPERIENCE WIND-DRIVEN WAVES THAT
WILL GIVE THE APPEARANCE OF TIDAL FLOODING AND RESULT IN SIMILAR
IMPACTS.
* AS WINDS BECOME SOUTHWESTERLY TUESDAY...WATER WILL RETURN BACK
INTO THE BAY AND TIDAL POTOMAC AND BEGIN TO PILE UP IN THE BAY
NORTH OF POOLES ISLAND AND IN THE UPPER REACHES OF THE TIDAL
POTOMAC AND ALONG SOUTH FACING SHORES.
* THE HIGHEST TIDES FOR MOST WILL BE WITH THE HIGH TIDES TUESDAY.

SNOWFALL
--------
* IN THE POTOMAC HIGHLANDS ABOVE 2000 FEET HEAVY WET SNOW IS EXPECTED.
* THE COMBINATION OF STRONG WIND AND HEAVY WET SNOW WILL DOWN TREE
LIMBS AND POWER LINES. BLIZZARD CONDITIONS ARE FORECAST WITH
VISIBILITY NEAR ZERO IN PERIODS OF HEAVY SNOW.
* THE HIGHEST ELEVATIONS OVER 3000 FEET ARE EXPECTED TO SEE 18 TO
24 INCHES BETWEEN LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND WEDNESDAY MORNING.
SOME ADDITIONAL ACCUMULATION IS EXPECTED THROUGH FRIDAY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS
----------------------------------
* BE PREPARED FOR EXTENDED POWER AND COMMUNICATIONS OUTAGES.
* IF YOU LIVE NEAR LARGE TREES...REMAIN IN THE LOWER LEVEL OF YOUR
HOME OR SEEK SHELTER ELSEWHERE IF POSSIBLE AND RIDE SANDY OUT.
* REFRAIN FROM ANY UNNECESSARY TRAVEL.
* ENSURE LOOSE ITEMS ON YOUR PROPERTY ARE SECURED.
* IF POWER LINES ARE DOWN...STAY AWAY FROM THEM AND REPORT IT TO YOUR
LOCAL ELECTRICAL UTILITY COMPANY.
* IF YOU SHOULD HAVE EMERGENCY TRAVEL...IF YOU COME UPON FLOODED
ROADWAYS DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CROSS SUBMERGED ROADWAYS. TURN AROUND
AND DON`T DROWN.
* IF YOU USE A PORTABLE POWER GENERATOR...PLEASE FOLLOW
MANUFACTURERS INSTRUCTIONS AND ENSURE THAT IT IS PROPERLY
VENTILATED.
* DO NOT USE CHARCOAL GRILLS IN ENCLOSED AREAS.
* MARINERS SHOULD ENSURE THAT THERE IS ENOUGH SLACK LINE IN THEIR
BOAT`S MOORINGS TO ACCEPT A BLOW OUT TIDE TODAY AND HIGH TIDES
TUESDAY.
* PERIODICALLY CHECK ON YOUR ELDERLY NEIGHBORS AND FAMILY MEMBERS
TO ENSURE THEY ARE SAFE.

FOR ADDITIONAL PRECAUTIONARY AND PREPAREDNESS INFORMATION...
PLEASE REFER TO THE DETAILED RECOMMENDATIONS RELATIVE TO YOUR
LOCATION AS FURTHER DESCRIBED BY YOUR LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE OFFICE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE.

&&

.NEXT UPDATE...
THE NEXT LOCAL STATEMENT WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE BALTIMORE/WASHINGTON WEATHER FORECAST OFFICE AT 5 PM EDT
TODAY OR SOONER IF CONDITIONS WARRANT.

$$


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508. wunderweatherman123 5:42 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
pressure here in nj has dipped to 974mb
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509. Sfloridacat5 5:42 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
I think it interesting that all these people are playing and taking pictures of the waves out at the beaches in the hurricane warning areas. It doesn't look like people are all that afraid of this system.
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510. CybrTeddy 5:42 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Sandy is defiantly still tropical, if anything it looks more and more tropical as time goes on.

It's too late for hurricane warnings, but with all the doom and gloom they're promising on the news, I think everyone is treating this with their full attention.
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511. MAweatherboy1 5:42 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting Methurricanes:
There's a band that right now is just past I-90 that appears to have TS force winds behind (south) of it.

The east/NE side is filling in with some bands, we'll end up getting in on those:



It shows up better on a loop.
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512. Bielle 5:42 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting oddspeed:


From north and east of Toronto, Canada: See that second blue spike up through Lake Ontario with the yellow core? It just threw rain to hit my north-facing windows that are 5 feet under an overhang. Never had that happen before.
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513. pottery 5:43 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
WAH!
95f at noon here.
Humidity 56%
Heat Index 105F

what happened to the Rainy Season?
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514. Grothar 5:43 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Local live New York News.



Link
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515. catastropheadjuster 5:43 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting washingtonian115:
People still on the streets in downtown D.C as conditions continue to rapidly deteriorate.Stores starting to close down except for super markets but I expect that to close down in about two hours.People here in D.C think we'll be safe and Sandy will be nothing to worry about.Have they forgotten about Isabel?.


BREAKING:Power beginning to go out in places I probably only have two hours in a half left of it before mine goes out with this high gust.


Washingtonian115, You stay safe and be careful. Look forward to hearing from you when you can if your power goes out. Where saying prayers for ev1 on the East Coast and inland.

sheri
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516. jerseybreakfast 5:43 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
It is so strange to be hunkering down for a hurricane in such cool, breezy fall weather. I'm in inland Northern Jersey and doing a LOT of watchful waiting. We've had some rain, but not a torrential amount. The winds have gusting pretty strongly off and on. That's my biggest concern up here.
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517. LargoFl 5:44 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
looks like that center is going to hit the delmar instead of central nj
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518. aspiring2012 5:44 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
I'll confirm what Washingtonian is saying, just seen the first reported storm outage in Arlington.
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519. Swede38 5:44 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting Swede38:
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520. Articuno 5:44 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Sandy is defiantly still tropical, if anything it looks more and more tropical as time goes on.

It's too late for hurricane warnings, but with all the doom and gloom they're promising on the news, I think everyone is treating this with their full attention.

Maybe it's good we "hype".
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521. washingtonian115 5:45 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting wolftribe2009:


it isn't only washington DC. I am hearing people out all along the east coast. The fact that people are allowed in ZONE A In NYC right now is beyond me. I think that is where Jim Cantore told us he was located.
I just hope the death toll isn't high.Could get reaaaaly ugly.I heard about people waiting till the last minute to evacuate but were trapped by rising water.
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522. LargoFl 5:45 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting jerseybreakfast:
It is so strange to be hunkering down for a hurricane in such cool, breezy fall weather. I'm in inland Northern Jersey and doing a LOT of watchful waiting. We've had some rain, but not a torrential amount. The winds have gusting pretty strongly off and on. That's my biggest concern up here.
you will get more once she comes ashore, and maybe even more as she turns northward..stay safe up there
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523. Swede38 5:45 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting SyriboTigereyes:


A friend sent me this from Levittown. We are "only" getting gusts around 40mph and the trees are already coming up in Nassau County in places. Wow.


My daughter is in Middletown.
How bad is it?
Cheers
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524. Methurricanes 5:45 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Surge now 4.66 at the Battery
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525. BaltOCane 5:45 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting wunderweatherman123:
pressure here in nj has dipped to 974mb


I'm at 980 here in B-more
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526. DrewE 5:45 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting tropicfreak:
Here in Richmond VA we've been hammered since this morning. Winds are coming in gusts but not very consistent wind. Having a really heavy rain band bringing TS force gusts. Wish me luck and hope I don't lose power... that will be hard to come by later this evening. Pouring outside though.

Imo, based on it's current trajectory I am saying a landfall in Delaware seems likely. That's not good though, puts me in seeing near hurricane force gusts. Hanging on in here, hope all is well by the end.

Pressure on my weather station has dipped below 29.00 inches, the first time it has ever done so in my nearly 2 years of ownership. Now at 28.97. That's 981 mb if you convert it.

Wish me luck as I'm hanging in there!


This poster is about 30 miles north of me, and I am experiencing the exact same conditions. Wind gusts of tropical storm force and becoming more and more common place.
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527. SyriboTigereyes 5:46 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting oracle28:


Anyone that takes Facebook posts seriously, needs an evaluation.

That's a good point actually. These are friends and family saying this who have been saying it in person as well. I just think its frustrating for those who have lost so much, have lost their lives, etc. And it happens every time there is a storm, anywhere. Not sure why it aggravates me so much.
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528. VaBeachSurfer 5:46 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
We are getting pounded here in VB with rain. Think we'll see much wind?
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529. awagner94 5:46 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Anyone watching the HH heading into storm? Picked up a low wind spot south west of the center. Similar location to one found by the HH heading home. Can anyone explain what that is and why?
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530. CarolinaHurricanes87 5:46 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting tropicfreak:
Here in Richmond VA we've been hammered since this morning. Winds are coming in gusts but not very consistent wind. Having a really heavy rain band bringing TS force gusts. Wish me luck and hope I don't lose power... that will be hard to come by later this evening. Pouring outside though.

Imo, based on it's current trajectory I am saying a landfall in Delaware seems likely. That's not good though, puts me in seeing near hurricane force gusts. Hanging on in here, hope all is well by the end.

Pressure on my weather station has dipped below 29.00 inches, the first time it has ever done so in my nearly 2 years of ownership. Now at 28.97. That's 981 mb if you convert it.

Wish me luck as I'm hanging in there!


Thanks for the update from my birthplace. Stay indoors and stay safe!
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531. tropicfreak 5:47 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting DrewE:


This poster is about 30 miles north of me, and I am experiencing the exact same conditions. Wind gusts of tropical storm force and becoming more and more common place.


Cool Drew where are you? Southern Chesterfield?
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532. MontanaZephyr 5:47 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting SSideBrac:


Not at all a blame game - their behaviour and ignorance could very well put Rescuers and 1st Responders lives at risk.
Somehow, the message has to be pushed home to such people.


Only weather nerds really follow the weather, particular commercial interests aside maybe. For most people, keeping up with 'the weather' is about as high priority as keeping up with the Tiawanese Girls' volleyball standings.
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533. Kumo 5:47 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting CloudGatherer:
That pic of the Tomb of the Unknowns is from September. This is what it looks like today.


Aye, rain or shine they'll be out there. Many thanks to The Old Guard for what they sacrifice for our Army and our Nation.
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534. kwgirl 5:47 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting jeffs713:

Ok... it was a typo. But still... you shouldn't be taking anything into a hurricane if you could avoid it. Especially not a sailboat.
Most large ships set sail in a storm to ride it out at sea rather than be pushed against the dock. Maybe that is why "The Bounty" sailed.
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535. CarolinaHurricanes87 5:48 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
I really hope people who needed to do so evacuated.... Katrina was bad enough, but water rescues in WAY colder water and air temps may not be able to happen quickly enough to save lives.
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536. SyriboTigereyes 5:48 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting Swede38:


My daughter is in Middletown.
How bad is it?
Cheers

Wind is picking up now, shaking our little old house a bit and rattling the windows. The wild birds are still out on the feeders in our yard though ;)
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537. klaatuborada 5:49 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Winds are really picking up. It's hard to believe this storm is so far away. Lights flickering, UPS battery backups beeping. When the power goes out I'm unplugging everything to keep the battery backups charged, so we can keep the phones and maybe even a computer going. I've got my own portable wi-fi. Good luck everybody. I'm going to power down to keep my electronics safe.
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538. Sfloridacat5 5:49 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
I still say the East side of Sandy is basically rain free. Radar shows very little precipitation on the East side of the center.
Center is only a few hours from landall. Sandy is really moving quickly now.
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539. yonzabam 5:50 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Professor Mark Saunders, Department of Space and Climate Physics at University College London, describes the two most unusual features of Hurricane Sandy: its track direction and curvature, and its relative strength.

Track direction and curvature. From a location well offshore at a latitude of 35°-40°N the storm turns to the northwestward to strike the US mid-Atlantic coast. There is no precedent in hurricane records extending back to 1851 of a storm at this latitude taking this path. All historical hurricanes located well offshore at this latitude have followed the jet stream and tracked in a direction between north and east.

Relative strength. Its strength for a hurricane striking the US mid-Atlantic coast in late October. Sandy's central pressure is currently forecast to be 945-950mb at landfall late on Monday. A pressure this low would exceed the previous record low pressure of 955mb for a hurricane landfall in this region at this time of year. It would also be close to the record low pressure of 946mb for any hurricane landfall north of Cape Hatteras; this record-holder being the 'New England' hurricane which occurred in September 1938.
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540. LargoFl 5:51 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
.THE FLOOD WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 430 PM EDT FOR
CALVERT...ANNE ARUNDEL AND EASTERN ST. MARYS COUNTIES...

AT 1213 PM EDT...MARYLAND ROUTE 450 WAS REPORTED TO BE FLOODED EAST
OF CROFTON. THE HEAVIEST RAIN HAS MOVED WEST OF THE BAYSHORE
COMMUNITIES...BUT ADDITIONAL RAIN WILL CONTINUE THROUGH TONIGHT. THE
FLOOD WARNING MAY HAVE TO BE EXTENDED OR RE-ISSUED LATER.

A FLOOD WARNING MEANS THAT FLOODING IS IMMINENT OR HAS BEEN REPORTED.
STREAM RISES WILL BE SLOW AND FLASH FLOODING IS NOT EXPECTED.
HOWEVER...ALL INTERESTED PARTIES SHOULD TAKE NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS
IMMEDIATELY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

IN HILLY TERRAIN THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF LOW WATER CROSSINGS WHICH ARE
POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS IN HEAVY RAIN. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO TRAVEL ACROSS
FLOODED ROADS. FIND ALTERNATE ROUTES. IT TAKES ONLY A FEW INCHES OF
SWIFTLY FLOWING WATER TO CARRY VEHICLES AWAY.

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF FLOOD WATERS. ONLY A FEW INCHES OF
RAPIDLY FLOWING WATER CAN QUICKLY CARRY AWAY YOUR VEHICLE.
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541. JTDailyUpdate 5:51 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting SyriboTigereyes:


A friend sent me this from Levittown. We are "only" getting gusts around 40mph and the trees are already coming up in Nassau County in places. Wow.


Same here in Levittown, PA
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542. Skyepony (Mod) 5:52 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Level Geo. Height Air Temp. Dew Point Wind Direction Wind Speed
972mb (28.70 inHg) Sea Level (Surface) 15.0°C (59.0°F) 13.4°C (56.1°F) 275° (from the W) 57 knots (66 mph)
1000mb -237m (-778 ft) This level does not exist in this area of the storm above the surface level.
925mb 420m (1,378 ft) 10.4°C (50.7°F) 10.0°C (50.0°F) 275° (from the W) 81 knots (93 mph)
850mb 1,119m (3,671 ft) 5.8°C (42.4°F) 4.2°C (39.6°F) 275° (from the W) 81 knots (93 mph)
700mb 2,694m (8,839 ft) 1.8°C (35.2°F) 1.2°C (34.2°F) 325° (from the NW) 40 knots (46 mph)

Information About Radiosonde:
- Launch Time: 17:08Z
- About Sonde: A descending radiosonde tracked automatically by satellite navigation with no solar or infrared correction.

Remarks Section...

Dropsonde Location: Dropped in maximum wind band.

Splash Location: 36.9N 73.67W
Splash Time: 17:12Z
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543. CarolinaHurricanes87 5:52 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting Sfloridacat5:
I still say the East side of Sandy is basically rain free. Radar shows very little precipitation on the East side of the center.
Center is only a few hours from landall. Sandy is really moving quickly now.


I think you are right about parts of Sandy lacking rain. Could be very interesting that whoever gets the largest storm surge may not see a whole lot in terms of rain. The good news is Sandy is going to make landfall much earlier than expected and avoid high tide
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544. yonzabam 5:52 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting SyriboTigereyes:


A friend sent me this from Levittown. We are "only" getting gusts around 40mph and the trees are already coming up in Nassau County in places. Wow.


Surprised to see so many green leaves on the tree. If that's typical, there will probably be record numbers of downed trees.

Here in Scotland, the trees have shed their leaves.
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545. pottery 5:52 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting MontanaZephyr:


Only weather nerds really follow the weather, particular commercial interests aside maybe. For most people, keeping up with 'the weather' is about as high priority as keeping up with the Tiawanese Girls' volleyball standings.

I thought I was the only one wot did that. :):))

Re: the Bounty.
They lost power and in a ship like that in those conditions, you are gone.....

Had the engine kept running they would probably been fine.
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546. Articuno 5:53 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
I think we will be spared of this storm. Imagine if there was actually another side to the storm?
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547. DrewE 5:53 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting tropicfreak:


Cool Drew where are you? Southern Chesterfield?


Yes sir! Are you on the south side?

I hate to be the a negative nancy, but the chances of us losing power are getting higher and higher as this is progressing.

Check this out. It's an outage map from Dominion Power. Link
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548. leftlink 5:53 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Despite all the reports in the media about flooding, the biggest surge won't happen until the next tide cycle.

Well, that tide cycle is starting right now in eastern Long Island due to extreme wind offshore. In New London CT, the low tide appears to be happening 3 hours or more earlier than normal. Which means that there could be a 9 hour tidal rise, peaking around 11pm:

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549. Tropicsweatherpr 5:54 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting Articuno:
I think we will be spared of this storm. Imagine if there was actually another side to the storm?


Where are you located?
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550. sfranz 5:54 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
The winds are creating an "instant autumn" in south-central MA. Tree branches should be next.

Last night my yard was totally cleaned up.


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551. washingtonian115 5:55 PM GMT on October 29, 2012    
Quoting Articuno:
I think we will be spared of this storm. Imagine if there was actually another side to the storm?
Where you live?.Because my lights are beginning to flicker just a little from some of these strong gust.
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