Hurricane Sandy remains a Category 2, continues on its track toward the East Coast

By: Angela Fritz , 9:48 PM GMT on October 25, 2012

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Hurricane Sandy is tracking north through the Bahamas this afternoon as a Category 2 hurricane. Maximum wind speeds in the hurricane are 105 mph, with a minimum central pressure of 963 mb. Sandy's center is moving through the eastern Bahamas, about 100 miles southeast of Nassau. The hurricane's eye is still not apparent on satellite nor was it clear in the data from today's Hurricane Hunter mission. Gusts in Nassau have reached 39 mph so far today as the hurricane approaches from the south. Buoys west of Nassau have been recording surface winds up to 39 mph, as well. On Abaco Island, just over an inch of rain has fallen today, and almost an inch of rain has fallen in Miami, where rain started last night.

Sandy's appearance on satellite is a bit ragged this afternoon as it approaches very high wind shear (40-50 knots). The hurricane is obviously already undergoing structural changes this afternoon, caused in part by an upper level low over western Cuba. This low is prohibiting Sandy's outflow on the west side, and as a result, the storm appears asymmetrical with a large area of outflow and circulation to the north, and only a tail of circulation on the southeast of the hurricane. Visually, Sandy is a huge storm. Based on clouds alone, Sandy stretches from Jacksonville, Florida, east to Bermuda, and south to the southern Caribbean Sea. Sandy's radius of outer closed isobar is 350 miles, though tropical storm-force winds only extend around 200 miles from the center.


Figure 1. High resolution MODIS visible satellite imagery of Hurricane Sandy early this morning.

Forecast For Hurricane Sandy
As Sandy moves north, it will grow larger and the hurricane's energy will spread out even more, which will lead to a slight decrease in maximum wind speed. Models agree on this steady decrease in intensity over the next few days, though beyond that, the intensity forecast is still in question since Sandy could begin to gain non-tropical energy as it transitions into a non-tropical storm. The track through Saturday evening remains well understood by the models: Sandy will move north with a slight turn to the west before being yanked north-northeast again by the approaching mid-latitude trough. It's at this point in the forecast that the models diverge, though all but the HWRF are forecasting the unfortunate turn back to the west and into the Northeast U.S. Furthest south along the East Coast is the ECMWF, which forecasts a turn into Maryland/North Carolina on Monday. The GFS forecast is a bit further north than the ECMWF, pushing Sandy onshore near Long Island late Tuesday night. However, this represents a large shift south from earlier GFS runs, and puts the Mid-Atlantic into play more than it was in earlier forecasts. The forecast from the National Hurricane Center appears to be a compromise between the ECMWF and the GFS. The Center is forecasting Sandy to approach the New Jersey coast on Tuesday afternoon.

There are many questions surrounding this hurricane and its forecast, but I find it important to convey that Sandy's impacts will be widespread, no matter the location of "landfall." Risk to the Mid-Atlantic seems higher this afternoon, and as Jeff noted in his morning blog, Sandy will be a very large and possibly non-tropical storm as it approaches the coast, with gale-force winds extending up to 300 miles from its center. This increases the probability of storm surge extending far from the center of the storm, which, combined with the timing of a full moon tide, is a big concern, along with freshwater and river flooding from heavy, extended periods of rain.

Angela


Figure 2. Today's "extra" 18Z (2pm EDT) weather balloon launched from the Peachtree City office of the National Weather Service. The National Weather Service is launching extra weather balloons all over the country to improve the quality of forecasts as Sandy approaches. Thanks to NWS Meteorologist Alex Gibbs for snapping this shot just before launch!

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1241. yoboi
Quoting goosegirl1:



If a storm like this parks above DC for 4 days, anything goes. I was not in Katrina and don't wish to pretend I "know" what happened. But put togther a few million humans who are used to be taken care of and then strip them of electicity and running water for a couple of weeks. What do you imagine would happen? And yes can happen. Maybe not n this storm, but what has happened once will happene again. Ask any geologist.


4 days without electricity in cool weather not as bad as in hott weather when it's hot ya cant strip past naked, when cold weather can always add clothes....
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Post 1223, it has started that subtropical thing. It might have been better if it stayed purely tropical, then that extremely high sheer its running into would break it up. As it stands now , that high sheer will eventually add to it's power by barclonic means.
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1239. LargoFl
Quoting MiamiSurvivor:
I bought my generator before Katrina, but they were out of stock and I did not get it tall after Katrina and 1 week of no power. Luckily, I had it for Wilma, where once again, it was 1 week with out power. I live just north of Cutler Ridge, Andrew took out our power for a month.
oh good, see your ready..most folks up north in the cities dont have that..this is going to be awful afterwards i guess..
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1238. yqt1001
No rational thinking on this blog Nea! You know this!
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Quoting Neapolitan:
Human nature being what it is, here's my own predication:

--Some people in some places are going to get less rain and wind than predicted. Many of those people will spend the next several weeks complaining how the storm was hyped by broadcasters for TV ratings, and by the government to divert people's attention away the upcoming election, and by forecasters to justify their jobs, and so on. They'll be wrong.

--Other people in other places are going to get more rain and wind that predicted. Many of those people will spend the next several weeks complaining how the storm was underplayed by broadcasters so they could air their own money-making shows, and by the government because they didn't wish to scare people in the face of the upcoming election, and by forecasters who didn't want to lose their jobs for "overhyping", and so on. They'll be wrong, too.

--Still other people in still other places are going to get precisely as much rain and wind as predicted. Many of those people will spend the next several weeks complaining how they don't understand all those complaining that the storm was hyper or underplayed, and that TV networks, the government, and forecasters are infallible and should never be questioned. They, too, will be wrong.

--There'll be claims from some that heavy snows on the west side of Frankensandy are proof that the planet isn't warming. They'll be wrong.

--There'll be claims from some that Frankensandy is absolute proof of global warming. There'll be claims from others that global warming has nothing to do with Frankensandy. They'll both be wrong.

--Gas prices will be artificially inflated for a time after the storm. Some will claim this was done intentionally to help the incumbent in the presidential race; others will claim it was done intentionally to hurt that incumbent. They'll also both be wrong.

--There'll be those (I've seen some already) who swear that the lack of landfalling hurricanes all year followed by the sudden appearance of one just a week before the election is surefire proof that the incumbent administration used HAARP to modify the weather so they can perhaps declare martial law and postpone the election. They'll be wrong.

--There'll be some who declare that such a storm striking at the end of November is evidence that some supreme supernatural being is unhappy with Halloween celebrations. They'll be wrong.

Sigh...



So now I want to know- who will be right??? haha
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Quoting zoomiami:
For those who think that Sandy falling apart means that it will be less weather, that's not the case. As the hurricane begins to fall apart, the weather will spread out. When there is a hybrid system, the worst weather is actually further away from the center, and creates more problems than if it was a tightly wound core that keeps the weather in a tighter pattern.


Great point. I have been in the Tallahassee/Big Bend part of the State during Hurricane landfalls further to the West (Panhandle/Alabama) over the years and you can "tell" when landfall occurs a few hundred miles away when the winds pick up a little bit as the land falling system "unwinds" as the pressure begins to rise again in the surrounding atmosphere. This large of a storm with all of the complex factors in another animal.
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Warm Gulf Stream could provide shot of energy for Sandy



There are many factors involved with what will ultimately shape the intensity and track of Sandy as it affects the Eastern Seaboard over the next few days. One of these factors is the location and strength of the Gulf Stream.

Take a look at the graphic. You can clearly see the outline of the current position and temperature of the Gulf Stream. Sandy’s forecast track has been added to the graphic but this is just the center location forecast. Sandy is obviously a huge hurricane and will have its circulation over a great deal of warm water for the next several days.

Then, the track will actually cross a portion of the Gulf Stream before Sandy heads for the coastline. All of this heat energy, water temps in the low 80s, will add fuel to aid in the deep convection of Sandy that, combined with upper level energy being injected from the massive trough digging in, should lead to a period of intensification before landfall.

The main thing to consider is to not focus on “what” Sandy is structurally. Sure it’s fascinating from a meteorological perspective but the result is practically the same: there will be wind, rain and surge that will affect millions of people. That’s the bottom line no matter what Sandy is called in the end.

The warm waters of the Caribbean gave rise to this enormous storm and now the western Atlantic and its Gulf Stream could provide the last piece of energy needed to energize Sandy once more before it makes a run for the coast.

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Quoting Inyo:


The general crappiness of the weather in DC seems to me proof that HAARP weather control is nonsense... Aside from the other 59 reasons.
We have had crappy weather all year here.But I will not blame that on the government.More like a cycle we're in.It has been cloudy the past three mornings and even darker this morning than yesterday.Maybe there is a increasing in D.C's bad weather because of americans being angry at the politicans lol.
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perfect three to four foot haw. ranked surf reported south bch miami
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Quoting Chucktown:
Sandy looking less and less tropical, and as stated in the 5 AM discussion from NHC, it may become post-tropical earlier than shown. As is typical with many nor'easters, there is a pronounced dry slot already showing up. The wind field has already expanded, and will continue to do so. Taking on that infamous comma head now.


Chucktown, what can we expect in Summerville?
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1230. LargoFl
Quoting originalLT:
Post 1195, they are calling for a lot of damage from 80mph winds, because the area of high winds should be over a very large area, much larger in area than say your average lower cat 1 storm.
thanks for the info. i was wondering..IF at ground level say the winds are 65-70 mph...how high would the winds be ..say on top of a 30 story high rise?....im thinking of those HIGH stone canyon blocks in NYC..where the winds will be howling and possibly pieces being blown off those high rises into the streets at 70 mph or more..geez
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Quoting LargoFl:
im in florida on the safe side..
I bought my generator before Katrina, but they were out of stock and I did not get it tall after Katrina and 1 week of no power. Luckily, I had it for Wilma, where once again, it was 1 week with out power. I live just north of Cutler Ridge, Andrew took out our power for a month.
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1228. barbamz
Quoting catastropheadjuster:
good morning ev1. I'm just wondering or kinda trying to understand, I was watching the news this morning and they said it's going in as a Cat 1-80mph, that's not a big hurricane, what I can't understand is how can it do all this damage and all @ 80mph? I'm not belittling the situation I know it's bad, but just don't understand.

sheri


Sheri, just watch this old TWC-Video from the 1991 perfect storm, which has been posted yesterday by someone (thanks once again!). It explains and shows the merging of two very different systems (Ex-Hurricane and a sort of Nor'easter) very well. This is forecast to happen in a similar way now, but more inland unfortunately.
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Quoting yoboi:


don't think it be as bad as katrina



If a storm like this parks above DC for 4 days, anything goes. I was not in Katrina and don't wish to pretend I "know" what happened. But put togther a few million humans who are used to be taken care of and then strip them of electicity and running water for a couple of weeks. What do you imagine would happen? And yes can happen. Maybe not n this storm, but what has happened once will happene again. Ask any geologist.
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1225. yoboi
Quoting Neapolitan:
Human nature being what it is, here's my own predication:

--Some people in some places are going to get less rain and wind than predicted. Many of those people will spend the next several weeks complaining how the storm was hyped by broadcasters for TV ratings, and by the government to divert people's attention away the upcoming election, and by forecasters to justify their jobs, and so on. They'll be wrong.

--Other people in other places are going to get more rain and wind that predicted. Many of those people will spend the next several weeks complaining how the storm was underplayed by broadcasters so they could air their own money-making shows, and by the government because they didn't wish to scare people in the face of the upcoming election, and by forecasters who didn't want to lose their jobs for "overhyping", and so on. They'll be wrong, too.

--Still other people in still other places are going to get precisely as much rain and wind as predicted. Many of those people will spend the next several weeks complaining how they don't understand all those complaining that the storm was hyper or underplayed, and that TV networks, the government, and forecasters are infallible and should never be questioned. They, too, will be wrong.

--There'll be claims from some that heavy snows on the west side of Frankensandy are proof that the planet isn't warming. They'll be wrong.

--There'll be claims from some that Frankensandy is absolute proof of global warming. There'll be claims from others that global warming has nothing to do with Frankensandy. They'll both be wrong.

--Gas prices will be artificially inflated for a time after the storm. Some will claim this was done intentionally to help the incumbent in the presidential race; others will claim it was done intentionally to hurt that incumbent. They'll also both be wrong.

--There'll be those (I've seen some already) who swear that the lack of landfalling hurricanes all year followed by the sudden appearance of one just a week before the election is surefire proof that the incumbent administration used HAARP to modify the weather so they can perhaps declare martial law and postpone the election. They'll be wrong.

--There'll be some who declare that such a storm striking at the end of November is evidence that some supreme supernatural being is unhappy with Halloween celebrations. They'll be wrong.

Sigh...


i figured ya was going to blame bush for it.....
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Quoting Neapolitan:
Human nature being what it is, here's my own predication:

--Some people in some places are going to get less rain and wind than predicted. Many of those people will spend the next several weeks complaining how the storm was hyped by broadcasters for TV ratings, and by the government to divert people's attention away the upcoming election, and by forecasters to justify their jobs, and so on. They'll be wrong.

--Other people in other places are going to get more rain and wind that predicted. Many of those people will spend the next several weeks complaining how the storm was underplayed by broadcasters so they could air their own money-making shows, and by the government because they didn't wish to scare people in the face of the upcoming election, and by forecasters who didn't want to lose their jobs for "overhyping", and so on. They'll be wrong, too.

--Still other people in still other places are going to get precisely as much rain and wind as predicted. Many of those people will spend the next several weeks complaining how they don't understand all those complaining that the storm was hyper or underplayed, and that TV networks, the government, and forecasters are infallible and should never be questioned. They, too, will be wrong.

--There'll be claims from some that heavy snows on the west side of Frankensandy are proof that the planet isn't warming. They'll be wrong.

--There'll be claims from some that Frankensandy is absolute proof of global warming. There'll be claims from others that global warming has nothing to do with Frankensandy. They'll both be wrong.

--Gas prices will be artificially inflated for a time after the storm. Some will claim this was done intentionally to help the incumbent in the presidential race; others will claim it was done intentionally to hurt that incumbent. They'll also both be wrong.

--There'll be those (I've seen some already) who swear that the lack of landfalling hurricanes all year followed by the sudden appearance of one just a week before the election is surefire proof that the incumbent administration used HAARP to modify the weather so they can perhaps declare martial law and postpone the election. They'll be wrong.

--There'll be some who declare that such a storm striking at the end of November is evidence that some supreme supernatural being is unhappy with Halloween celebrations. They'll be wrong.

Sigh...

+1,000,000 Nea, I swear I just love you! So enjoy your posts. This one should set some folks off. Have a great day/weekend.
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1223. K8eCane
Quoting originalLT:
Post 1195, they are calling for a lot of damage from 80mph winds, because the area of high winds should be over a very large area, much larger in area than say your average lower cat 1 storm.


Thats what bothers me. Some say its already starting that subtropical thingy
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1221. guygee
Quoting Neapolitan:
Human nature being what it is, here's my own predication:
--[...]Sigh...
Good list Nea.
I wonder if the anti-gouging laws are as strict further north as they are in Florida? Because the only one you missed is "a lot of people will try to cash in and gouge out obscene profit from this storm"
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Post 1195, they are calling for a lot of damage from 80mph winds, because the area of high winds should be over a very large area, much larger in area than say your average lower cat 1 storm.
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Quoting airChrist:
Haven't posted in years, but I am a big-time lurker. This blog has provided me with countless vital info over the years. I have always been the go-to weather guru in my family. Now I can back it up. So thanks everyone.

This one coming my way. I am from eastern Long Island. My office is in Patchogue.

As of now, I'm thinking it will be like a strong Nor'easter here, but hoping the GFS doesn't verify. People up here don't seem to understand what we could be facing. At its worst, this storm could create new inlets on the south shore, and decimate beaches. The coastal flooding could be awful.

But for some reason, when I try to warn people, I get the standard, "it'll just be rain."
Join the club.People aren't taking it serious here.I'm still skeptical though about a sub 950mbr system crashing into the coast.Sandy I believe will go north of me(hopefully).So you all watch out.If any good comes out of this I hope it's a sign of awesome nor'easters to come this winter.
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1217. K8eCane
Quoting TomballTXPride:

I gotta agree, Chuck.


From what i can hear, that'll be worse than if it stayed tropical.
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1216. Inyo
Quoting Neapolitan:
Human nature being what it is, here's my own predication:

--Some people in some places are going to get less rain and wind than predicted. Many of those people will spend the next several weeks complaining how the storm was hyped by broadcasters for TV ratings, and by the government to divert people's attention away the upcoming election, and by forecasters to justify their jobs, and so on. They'll be wrong.

--Other people in other places are going to get more rain and wind that predicted. Many of those people will spend the next several weeks complaining how the storm was underplayed by broadcasters so they could air their own money-making shows, and by the government because they didn't wish to scare people in the face of the upcoming election, and by forecasters who didn't want to lose their jobs for "overhyping", and so on. They'll be wrong, too.

--Still other people in still other places are going to get precisely as much rain and wind as predicted. Many of those people will spend the next several weeks complaining how they don't understand all those complaining that the storm was hyper or underplayed, and that TV networks, the government, and forecasters are infallible and should never be questioned. They, too, will be wrong.

--There'll be claims from some that heavy snows on the west side of Frankensandy are proof that the planet isn't warming. They'll be wrong.

--There'll be claims from some that Frankensandy is absolute proof of global warming. There'll be claims from others that global warming has nothing to do with Frankensandy. They'll both be wrong.

--Gas prices will be artificially inflated for a time after the storm. Some will claim this was done intentionally to help the incumbent in the presidential race; others will claim it was done intentionally to hurt that incumbent. They'll also both be wrong.

--There'll be those (I've seen some already) who swear that the lack of landfalling hurricanes all year followed by the sudden appearance of one just a week before the election is surefire proof that the incumbent administration used HAARP to modify the weather so they can perhaps declare martial law and postpone the election. They'll be wrong.

--There'll be some who declare that such a storm striking at the end of November is evidence that some supreme supernatural being is unhappy with Halloween celebrations. They'll be wrong.

Sigh...


The general crappiness of the weather in DC seems to me proof that HAARP weather control is nonsense... Aside from the other 59 reasons.
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1214. K8eCane
Quoting Chucktown:
Sandy looking less and less tropical, and as stated in the 5 AM discussion from NHC, it may become post-tropical earlier than shown. As is typical with many nor'easters, there is a pronounced dry slot already showing up. The wind field has already expanded, and will continue to do so. Taking on that infamous comma head now.



Chuck you might get some overtime. Im wondering whether you want it? LOL
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1213. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #37
SEVERE TROPICAL STORM SON-TINH (T1223)
21:00 PM JST October 26 2012
====================================

SUBJECT: Category Two Typhoon In South China Sea

At 12:00 PM UTC, Severe Tropical Storm Son-Tinh (980 hPa) located at 15.5N 113.6E has 10 minute sustained winds of 55 knots with gusts of 80 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west northwest at 11 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T3.5

Storm Force Winds
=================
50 NM from the center

Gale Force Winds
================
210 NM from the center

Forecast and Intensity
========================

24 HRS: 17.4N 109.0E - 70 knots (CAT 3/Strong Typhoon) South China Sea
48 HRS: 18.9N 105.4E - 40 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Storm) Overland Vietnam
72 HRS: 20.0N 102.0E - Tropical Depression Overland Laos
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Haven't posted in years, but I am a big-time lurker. This blog has provided me with countless vital info over the years. I have always been the go-to weather guru in my family. Now I can back it up. So thanks everyone.

This one coming my way. I am from eastern Long Island. My office is in Patchogue.

As of now, I'm thinking it will be like a strong Nor'easter here, but hoping the GFS doesn't verify. People up here don't seem to understand what we could be facing. At its worst, this storm could create new inlets on the south shore, and decimate beaches. The coastal flooding could be awful.

But for some reason, when I try to warn people, I get the standard, "it'll just be rain."
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Quoting indianrivguy:


Its been kinda interesting, I pay attention to your posts and have read your comments about needing some rain. Me, I've been crying since Isaac as the management of water here strongly favors sugar, and not the citizens nor ecosystems. You need rain, and we have ecosystem killing amounts, and the distance between the two can be traveled by car in 30 minutes.
we don't need any rain where largo and I live. I've never seen the swamps this full at this time of year.
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1209. Inyo
Quoting goosegirl1:


So I suppose it's not just an eastern phenom, just what gulls do. When they show up on the parking lot at work we joke that we've moved work to the beach for the day.

I know a lot of you probably see them as pests, but I like gulls since we rarely see them. In the past, I have taken the Cedar Island ferry out to Ocracoke and I always point out what kind of gulls are hanging out and hitching a free ride- usually my favorite, laughing gulls. They are clever and take advantage of anything us handy humans will give away.

NWS is finally calling for a rain/snow mix in my area. I haven't seen any wind predictions yet, but I'm treating this storm like it will really happen and will get some preps done today.


In Southern California during the big El Niño floods of the 90s I remember seeing gulls standing in the school fields before some of the storms. We were five miles from the ocean. When we saw them in great numbers we knew that was going to be a big storm.

As for Sandy, here in Vermont it looks like less rain than Irene (THANK GOD) but more wind. It all depends on the track now. We are actually going to NYC this weekend but leaving early Sunday morning. In Irene we were driving north to beat the storm through the spiral bands at 11 pm in drenching rains and fog. In the worst of the squall the smell of ocean brine filled the car. We were on a mountain pass a hundred miles from the coast.

I guess my point is... If you are far from the sea and see unusual gull numbers or smell the ocean... You're in for a whopper of a storm.
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Got a 43MPH in WPB!
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Sandy looking less and less tropical, and as stated in the 5 AM discussion from NHC, it may become post-tropical earlier than shown. As is typical with many nor'easters, there is a pronounced dry slot already showing up. The wind field has already expanded, and will continue to do so. Taking on that infamous comma head now.
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1206. LargoFl
Quoting DrewE:


Where are you located? ...I don't have the funds to go out and buy a generator, nor would I bother since this is such a rare event.

Thankfully I can use my car to charge my cell phone.
im in florida on the safe side..on the program they gave one good piece of advice, while its still safe outside, make sure you have enough cash on hand, during the storms aftermath and no power..the atms etc wont be operating..good tip there for sure, if your days or weeks without power and you find a store open and need something..remember too..the credit cards etc will be useless until power is restorted
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Sandy is battling hard with the upper- level winds
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Human nature being what it is, here's my own prediction:

--Some people in some places are going to get less rain and wind than predicted. Many of those people will spend the next several weeks complaining how the storm was hyped by broadcasters for TV ratings, and by the government to divert people's attention away from the upcoming election, and by forecasters to justify their jobs, and so on. They'll be wrong.

--Other people in other places are going to get more rain and wind that predicted. Many of those people will spend the next several weeks complaining how the storm was underplayed by broadcasters so they could air their own money-making shows, and by the government because they didn't wish to scare people in the face of the upcoming election, and by forecasters who didn't want to lose their jobs for "overhyping", and so on. They'll be wrong, too.

--Still other people in still other places are going to get precisely as much rain and wind as predicted. Many of those people will spend the next several weeks complaining how they don't understand all those complaining that the storm was hyper or underplayed, and that TV networks, the government, and forecasters are infallible and should never be questioned. They, too, will be wrong.

--There'll be claims from some that heavy snows on the west side of Frankensandy are proof that the planet isn't warming. They'll be wrong.

--There'll be claims from some that Frankensandy is absolute proof of global warming. There'll be claims from others that global warming has nothing to do with Frankensandy. They'll both be wrong.

--Gas prices will be artificially inflated for a time after the storm. Some will claim this was done intentionally to help the incumbent in the presidential race; others will claim it was done intentionally to hurt that incumbent. They'll also both be wrong.

--There'll be those (I've seen some already) who swear that the lack of landfalling hurricanes all year followed by the sudden appearance of one just a week before the election is surefire proof that the incumbent administration used HAARP to modify the weather so they can perhaps declare martial law and postpone the election. They'll be wrong.

--There'll be some who declare that such a storm striking at the end of November October is evidence that some supreme supernatural being is unhappy with Halloween celebrations. They'll be wrong.

Sigh...
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1203. o22sail
Quoting WXHAMVA:


SE Virgina here ... near VA Beach


callsign??? de/ki4itv
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The Air Force Hunter just registered 965.2 mb in the center of the storm. I think maybe they need to get together with NOAA, and calibrate their instruments to the same standard :)
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1201. LargoFl
another line of storms coming in.....
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1200. DrewE
Quoting LargoFl:
whew, last night i watched some fema expert saying how bad he thought the power outages were going to be in a Huge area, he was clueless on how long repairs would take..i can tell you this...he looked extremely worried, said crews would be on standby, ready to go as soon as it was safe..but now seeing the storm will be hanging around for a few days..you get the picture..long lasting blackouts and loss of power


Where are you located? ...I don't have the funds to go out and buy a generator, nor would I bother since this is such a rare event.

Thankfully I can use my car to charge my cell phone.
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Down Town Miami, Raining a bit and the sky is gray, not a lot of wind at this time. I actually woke up and saw the sun shining for a bit this morning. Last night was kind of quiet after midnight. The winds calmed down to the point that you would not have even know Sandy was out there.
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1197. guygee
Quoting Grothar:


Teddy, Frankenstein was the name of the Doctor, not the monster. He didn't have a name, much like winter storms. :)
True but that has morphed in popular language so Frankenstein's Monster now has become Frankenstein.

I am just going by my favorite musical album "Tarzan, Tonto and Frankenstein Sing Christmas Carols"
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1196. WXHAMVA
Quoting MontanaZephyr:


Actually, what COULD happen is that one side will insist on extending the voting for a few days, saying that not everyone got a chance to vote. The other side will scream bloody murder, of course, and then things will go down hill from there.


In THAT region? You can bet POTUS will declare state of emergency and postpone voting. Would that mean a national decision Don't know. Will be interesting. Balance safety with right to vote. Potentially a BIG CAN OF WORMS!
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good morning ev1. I'm just wondering or kinda trying to understand, I was watching the news this morning and they said it's going in as a Cat 1-80mph, that's not a big hurricane, what I can't understand is how can it do all this damage and all @ 80mph? I'm not belittling the situation I know it's bad, but just don't understand.

sheri
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Does anyone know what the storm surge will be in Southern New Jersey.
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I'm watching the feeder band about 85 miles offshore of Melbourne. Because the storm is still moving northwest and is changing structure, east central Florida have more bad weather coming...
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1192. AztecCe
Quoting Pipewhale:


Nope. Vague commentary about rain and storms on Saturday. This is out of Raleigh and Fayetteville so it's a little further inland.
I havent checked the map in a while but isnt that area supposed to get at least a few inches of rain? like 1-5 or something?
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