98L may develop this weekend; 97L no threat
A tropical wave located about 350 miles east of the Lesser Antilles Islands (Invest 98L) is headed west-northwest at about 10 - 15 mph, and is a threat to develop into a tropical depression this weekend. The disturbance has a modest amount of spin and a large amount of heavy thunderstorms, as seen on satellite loops and Barbados radar. The thunderstorms have shown more organization this morning, but there is no obvious surface circulation visible on satellite imagery. This morning's ASCAT pass showed top winds of 30 - 35 mph near 15°N, 55°W. Wind shear is a high 20 - 30 knots over 98L, the atmosphere is moist, and ocean temperatures are a very warm 30°C. With wind shear expected to diminish on Saturday to the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, 98L may be able to develop into a tropical cyclone this weekend. The disturbance has a high amount of support for development among the reliable computer models. The NOGAPS model predicts 98L will develop into a tropical depression or tropical storm on Sunday, about 400 hundred miles north of Puerto Rico. The GFS model predicts 98L will develop on Saturday, when the center will be very close to the northernmost Lesser Antilles Islands. The ECMWF model predicts a more westerly path for 98L into the southeast Bahama Islands, with development delayed until Monday. The models are unified in forecasting that 98L will turn to the north by Monday and be drawn into a trough of low pressure. It does not appear that 98L will be a threat to the U.S. In their 8 am Tropical Weather Outlook, NHC gave 98L a 50% chance of becoming a tropical cyclone by Saturday morning. A hurricane hunter aircraft is scheduled to visit 98L on Friday afternoon.

Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Invest 98L approaching the Lesser Antilles Islands.
Invest 97L east of the Bahamas
A tropical wave located about 250 miles east of the central Bahama Islands (Invest 97L) is headed slowly southwards. The disturbance is well-organized, with a developing surface circulation and a respectable area of heavy thunderstorms, as seen on satellite loops. Wind shear is a high 20 knots over 97L, and the shear has pushed all the storm's heavy thunderstorms to its east side. Shear is expected to increase sharply later today as a cold front overtakes the system. This cold front should be capable of destroying 97L by Friday.
Jeff Masters
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If you can name Jose or Helene, you can name this one.
It seems a lot more likely to me now than it did a couple days ago that we'll get a TC out of 97L, and that's mainly because I'm thinking it will drift far enough south to get into the "zone" for increased development potential. The models mostly seem to be forecasting a pretty logical outcome, especially in the short term.
TROPICAL DEPRESSION CENTER LOCATED NEAR 25.4N 72.6W AT 11/1500Z
POSITION ACCURATE WITHIN 20 NM
PRESENT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE SOUTH OR 180 DEGREES AT 1 KT
ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 1009 MB
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 30 KT WITH GUSTS TO 40 KT.
WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL
MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.
REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 25.4N 72.6W AT 11/1500Z
AT 11/1200Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 25.5N 72.6W
FORECAST VALID 12/0000Z 25.1N 73.2W
MAX WIND 30 KT...GUSTS 40 KT.
FORECAST VALID 12/1200Z 24.9N 73.7W
MAX WIND 30 KT...GUSTS 40 KT.
FORECAST VALID 13/0000Z...DISSIPATED
REQUEST FOR 3 HOURLY SHIP REPORTS WITHIN 300 MILES OF 25.4N 72.6W
NEXT ADVISORY AT 11/2100Z
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FORECASTER BRENNAN
Short version of Iris 95?
Nah, it's hrder for them to get stronger because everything else is too... not only the environmental ingredients that combine to promote strengthening of a storm, but also those that destroy it. That's why storms aren't getting as strong as they used to be, but they are getting more intense. That's why that IKE scale is much more forward thinking than this aged Saffir-Simpson one. Usually a storm can't mix its winds to the surface before something from the environment gets to it, but it can maintain and further solidify its structure in the meantime; plump itself up. Such was the case with Isaac, and with Irene.
I don't know, really, but that is my thought. We'll be seeing less categor 4/5 storms, and more intense monsoonal types. Even Debby had the rains characteristic of a storm stronger than a moderate TS.
Looks possible, tough Iris moved almost completely north and only brushed the waters of the Caribbean, I don't think 98L will move completely north, it should retain some westward motion.
I go with the glitch, although 98L has been growing more and more organized throughout the past 36 hours. A renumber tonight is plausible, but this year is just full of glitchiness and poor calls.
That's my reason too Largo. Used to live in Milwaukee Wisconsin. Best brats in the world, but that never made up for the snow and cold :)
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1050 AM EDT THU 11 OCTOBER 2012
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 12/1100Z TO 13/1100Z OCTOBER 2012
TCPOD NUMBER.....12-145
I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. TROPICAL DEPRESSION SIXTEEN
FLIGHT ONE --TEAL 73--
A. 12/1600Z
B. AFXXX 0116A CYCLONE
C. 12/1200Z
D. 24.8N 74.0W
E. 12/1530Z TO 12/1830
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT
2. SUSPECT AREA (LESSER ANTILLES)
FLIGHT ONE --TEAL 71-- FLIGHT TWO --TEAL 72--
A. 12/1800Z A. 13/0600Z, 1200Z
B. AFXXX 01DDA INVEST B. AFXXX 0217A CYCLONE
C. 12/1700Z C. 13/0500Z
D. 15.5N 62.5W D. 17.0N 64.0W
E. 12/1730Z TO 12/2130Z E. 13/1530Z TO 13/1200Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT F. SFC TO 10,000 FT
3. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY: CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES IF
SYSTEM IN EASTERN CARIBBEAN IS STILL A THREAT.
EURO 48HR
Then we're all going to die pretty soon, and not of ripe old age. Quit buying from China, or we're dead. It's just that simple.
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