Major U.S. Winter Storms to get names

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 1:50 PM GMT on October 02, 2012

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October is here, and its time to start thinking about how the coming winter's storm might compare to mighty blizzards of years past. Do you remember the North American blizzard of February 4, 2010? No? Well, do you remember Snowmageddon, the massive February 2010 Nor'easter that dumped up to 38" of snow in the mid-Atlantic, and killed 41 people? The two storms are the same, but having a simple name for the snowstorm like "Snowmageddon" helps us identify and remember the impacts of the storm. Naming a major winter storm makes even more sense if it is done before the storm hits, to aid in raising awareness of the storm, and to reduce the risks the public faces. That's exactly what The Weather Channel is going to do for the U.S. this winter, they announced in a press release today. A group of senior meteorologists at The Weather Channel chose 26 names for the upcoming winter of 2012 - 2013. The only criteria was to select names that are not and have never been on any of the hurricane lists produced by the National Hurricane Center or National Weather Service. Naming of a winter storm will occur no earlier than three days prior to it hitting, to ensure there is strong confidence that the system could have significant impact on large populations. There is no national center for monitoring winter storms like we have for hurricanes with the National Hurricane Center, so I think it makes sense for The Weather Channel to take this step.


Figure 1. Snowmageddon in Maryland: February 4, 2010. Image credit: wunderphotographer chills.

U.S. winter storm names for winter of 2012 - 2013
Athena -- The Greek goddess of wisdom, courage, inspirations, justice, mathematics and all things wonderful

Brutus -- Roman Senator and best known assassin of Julius
Caesar -- Title used by Roman and Byzantine Emperors 

Draco -- The first legislator of Athens in Ancient
Euclid -- A mathematician in Ancient Greece, the Father of Geometry
Freyr -- A Norse god associated with fair weather, among other things

Gandolf -- A character in a 1896 fantasy novel in a pseudo-medieval countryside

Helen – In Greek mythology, Helen of Troy was the daughter of Zeus

Iago -- Enemy of Othello in Shakespeare’s play, Othello

Jove -- The English name for Jupiter, the Roman god of light and sky.

Kahn -- Mongolian conqueror and emperor of the Mongol Empire

Luna -- The divine embodiment of the moon in Roman mythology

Magnus -- The Father of Europe, Charlemagne the Great, in Latin: Carolus Magnus 

Nemo -- A Greek boy’s name meaning “from the valley”, means “nobody” in Latin 

Orko -- The thunder god in Basque mythology

Plato -- Greek philosopher and mathematician, who was named by his wrestling coach

Q -- The Broadway Express subway line in New York City

Rocky -- A single mountain in the Rockies

Saturn -- Roman god of time, among other things who had a planet named after him

Triton -- In Greek mythology, the messenger of the deep sea, son of Poseidon

Ukko -- In Finnish mythology, the god of the sky and weather

Virgil -- One of ancient Rome’s greatest poets

Walda -- Name from Old German meaning “ruler”

Xerxes -- The fourth king of the Persian Achaemenid Empire, Xerxes the Great

Yogi -- People who do yoga

Zeus -- In Greek mythology, the supreme ruler of Mount Olympus and the gods who lived there

I expect that this year The Weather Channel will be pretty conservative about assigning names, and only the very strongest winter storms will get named. For the eastern 2/3 of the country, storms that receive a ranking of "notable" or higher on NOAA's Regional Snowfall Index (RSI) or Northeast Snowfall Impact Scale (NESIS) are the only ones fairly certain to get named this winter. We only had one such storm during the winter of 2011 - 2012 (Snowtober, on October 29 - 31, 2011.) Thus, if we have another wimpy winter like last winter, we probably won't get to see the Wrath of Khan.

Naming of Winter Storms in Europe
Various organizations in Europe have been naming their winter storms since 1954, and the public has reacted positively to this practice. The names given by the Free University of Berlin are the most widely used, and have been in existence since 1954. Their meteorologists traditionally name all lows and highs that influence the Central European weather. In November 2002, the Free University began an Adopt-a-Vortex scheme, which allows anyone to buy a storm name. The money raised is used by the meteorology department to maintain weather observations at the university. Over 1,800 participants from 15 European countries plus Brazil, Japan and the United States have participated. So far in 2012, 90 European low pressure systems have been given names.


Figure 2. A huge wave from Winter Storm Klaus rolls into Santander, Spain, in this wunderphoto taken by wunderphotographer lunada on January 24, 2009. Klaus had a central pressure of 967 mb at its peak on the morning of January 24, and brought sustained winds of 59 mph, gusting to 81 mph, to Santander. Wind gusts as high as 124 mph (199 km/hr) occurred along the northern coast of Spain, and the storm killed at least 26 people in Spain, France, and Italy.

Naming of Lake Effect Winter Storms by NWS Buffalo
Tom Niziol, The Weather Channel's winter storm expert, was meteorologist-in-charge of the Buffalo, New York NWS office until January 2012. He tells me that for over ten years, the Buffalo NWS has been naming lake-effect storms. This was done only after the event occurred, to avoid any confusion, but was very popular with users. The names were chosen on a yearly basis by having the office staff vote for one of several themes--such as insects, heavenly bodies, famous scientists, minerals, Native American tribes, etc. Last winter, eight storms were named after breeds of cows (?!), as seen at the NWS Buffalo Lake Effect web page. I was not asked to contribute to this year's list of U.S. winter storms, but will lobby for next year's list of names to be taken from famous monsters--Rodan, Ghidorah, Nessie, Kong, Bunnicula, etc.


Figure 3. The most significant lake-effect snow storm of the winter of 2011 - 2012 was named Lake Effect Storm Evolene by the NWS office in Buffalo, New York. Image credit: NWS Buffalo Lake Effect web page.

Nadine
The Methuselah of Atlantic tropical storms, Tropical Storm Nadine, is slowly weakening over cool 22 - 24°C waters. Nadine will have accumulated 20 days as a tropical cyclone later today, but the end is in sight. Wind shear will rise to 30 knots and ocean temperatures will drop to 20°C by Thursday, which should cause Nadine to transition to an extratropical storm as it passes by the northern Azores Islands on Thursday and Friday.

96L off the coast of Africa no threat to land
A tropical wave that emerged off the coast of Africa over the weekend (Invest 96L) has a moderate amount of spin and a large area of heavy thunderstorms that is growing more organized. The storm is located about 925 miles west of the Cape Verde Islands, and is headed northwest at 10 - 15 mph. Wind shear is a moderate 10 knots, and is predicted to remain light to moderate, 5 - 15 knots, through Friday. The atmosphere surrounding 96L is fairly moist, and the disturbance does have a good degree of model support for becoming a tropical depression by late in the week. In their 8 am EDT Tropical Weather Outlook, NHC gave 96L a 70% chance of becoming a tropical depression by Thursday morning. 96L is likely to get pulled northwards by a large trough of low pressure over the Central Atlantic late this week, and should not be a threat to the Lesser Antilles Islands.

Jeff Masters

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You certainly are entitled to your opinion. That is your right. But to be rude to anyone who does not hold the same opinion as you is not following the rules of the road for this blog. It is not civil discussion to be rude to other bloggers. JMO
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After a morning of sometimes heavy showers, the sun's been shining here in Naples for the past few hours. How are things up in Lee?
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Quoting Neapolitan:
Perhaps. But that makes it no less factual, does it?


You certainly are entitled to your opinion. That is your right. But to be rude to anyone who does not hold the same opinion as you is not following the rules of the road for this blog. It is not civil discussion to be rude to other bloggers. JMO
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Quoting etxwx:
A different type of pollution is getting attention in China. Mooncakes are a holiday treat traditionally eaten during the Mid-Autumn Festival (Zhongqiu):

Refuse from popular treat mooncakes is adding to China's pollution woes

Excerpt: China has surpassed the United States to become the world's largest trash producer, churning out more than 260 million tons a year. Beijing's 20 million residents generate about 18,000 tons a day, most of which goes to landfills. With household trash volume rising at least 5 percent annually, according to the city, authorities are building new incinerators, though that's caused concern about further dirtying the capital's already smoggy skies.

Mooncake-related refuse is just a small part of the problem. But much like Christmas wrapping in the West, it's attracting attention from activists seeking to raise public awareness, encourage greener business practices and nudge bureaucrats to enforce environmental regulations already on the books.

This year, the nation is expected to produce 280,000 tons of mooncakes, with sales reaching $2.53 billion, up 6 percent from a year ago, Zhu Nianlin, president of the China Association of Bakery & Confectionery Industry, told China's Global Times newspaper. But high-end mooncake purveyors report much stronger growth.

Mooncake sellers spent more than $300 million on packaging in 2010, including 200,000 tons of paper and 40,000 tons of tin, according to the China General Chamber of Commerce.


Complete story here: Link



Are they like moonpies?
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We're going where nothing has gone before...you ready to go on a ride?

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I agree winter weather is worth naming too.
But I think this is more what people think of the names listed.
Athena – One of the characters in clash of the titans and the cartoon Hercules
Brutus – Popeye’s rival for olive oil.
Caesar – A nice salad, or that roman guy.
Draco – Harry Potter’s enemy
Euclid – donno, ask a math geek.
Freyr – beginning of a French song.
Gandolf – Awesome wizard!
Helen – more Greek history
Iago – The parrot in Aladdin
Jove – Someone whose got it! Or another name for Zeus.
Kahn – Captain Kirk’s enemy on Star Trek.
Luna – Someone from Harry Potter or something from Mario Galaxy.
Magnus – Swedish weight lifter
Nemo – a clown fish cartoon.
Orko – the weird he-man cartoon magician character
Plato – if you are guessing it is the squishy stuff kids use.
Q - more Star Trek
Rocky – Balboa, yes!
Saturn – the car, or the planet that looks like CBS TV symbol.
Triton – yes, there is a cartoon for this too. Ariel’s dad in lil' mermaid.
Ukko – doono, sounds like Yu Gi Oh.
Virgil – he is in the Hercules cartoon too.
Walda – a storm that is hard to find.
Xerxes – Bad guy in 300
Yogi – Bear, Booboo’s friend.
Zeus – King of the Gods/Jupiter/see Jove above.
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Quoting beell:
Frm the good Dr's blog.

Naming of Winter Storms in Europe
Various organizations in Europe have been naming their winter storms since 1954, and the public has reacted positively to this practice. The names given by the Free University of Berlin are the most widely used, and have been in existence since 1954. Their meteorologists traditionally name all lows and highs that influence the Central European weather. In November 2002, the Free University began an Adopt-a-Vortex scheme, which allows anyone to buy a storm name. The money raised is used by the meteorology department to maintain weather observations at the university. Over 1,800 participants from 15 European countries plus Brazil, Japan and the United States have participated. So far in 2012, 90 European low pressure systems have been given names.


Your next winter storm brought to you by TWC and Carnival Cruise Lines.



Lloyd's of London -- What's in a Name/March 2010


It is true. Naming storms in Europe has been going on for a long time. I never remember anyone getting upset about it. It is almost like a game and they are often discussed they way we discuss our hurricanes. It is certainly not a new idea. It gives a personality to an event or an object.

You would be surprised the things I have named.
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195. etxwx
A different type of pollution is getting attention in China. Mooncakes are a holiday treat traditionally eaten during the Mid-Autumn Festival (Zhongqiu):

Refuse from popular treat mooncakes is adding to China's pollution woes

Excerpt: China has surpassed the United States to become the world's largest trash producer, churning out more than 260 million tons a year. Beijing's 20 million residents generate about 18,000 tons a day, most of which goes to landfills. With household trash volume rising at least 5 percent annually, according to the city, authorities are building new incinerators, though that's caused concern about further dirtying the capital's already smoggy skies.

Mooncake-related refuse is just a small part of the problem. But much like Christmas wrapping in the West, it's attracting attention from activists seeking to raise public awareness, encourage greener business practices and nudge bureaucrats to enforce environmental regulations already on the books.

This year, the nation is expected to produce 280,000 tons of mooncakes, with sales reaching $2.53 billion, up 6 percent from a year ago, Zhu Nianlin, president of the China Association of Bakery & Confectionery Industry, told China's Global Times newspaper. But high-end mooncake purveyors report much stronger growth.

Mooncake sellers spent more than $300 million on packaging in 2010, including 200,000 tons of paper and 40,000 tons of tin, according to the China General Chamber of Commerce.


Complete story here: Link

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Quoting Grothar:


As the models show, she will turn EASTERWARD before she turns WESTWARD.

She's gonna get giddy and fall down.......

And anyway, I say that she will, (between going West and East), go North and all the derivatives of that.
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Quoting FtMyersgal:


That's just rude
Perhaps. But that alone doesn't necessarily make it less factual, does it? ;-)
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Quoting Grothar:


As the models show, she will turn EASTERWARD before she turns WESTWARD.


If she is still here at Easter.....

uh oh...
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Quoting MontanaZephyr:


I strongly agree!

In addition to the basic idea presented, can anyone see any potential problems with a for-profit corporate entity naming natural phenomena?


Why, they do it in Europe where they sell the names of storms.
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Quoting Grothar:


As the models show, she will turn EASTERWARD before she turns WESTWARD.
How many re's before curve for her now?
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Quoting tonkawa:
TWC should instead persuade NOAA to do this.

Perhaps I missed something in the stories, but TWC is simply not authorized to do this on behalf of a nation or the world. They could easily drive an effort to get NOAA to adopt such a scheme. I am not saying naming a winter storm is a Bad Thing, but this move would make TWC a de factor authority - which they aren't. Having NOAA oversight would aid in vetted standardization of requirements used to give names.


I strongly agree!

In addition to the basic idea presented, can anyone see any potential problems with a for-profit corporate entity naming natural phenomena?
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Quoting AussieStorm:

No, it's only east coast storms that matter to TWC.


Sure seems that way on this side of the US.
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186. beell
Frm the good Dr's blog.

Naming of Winter Storms in Europe
Various organizations in Europe have been naming their winter storms since 1954, and the public has reacted positively to this practice. The names given by the Free University of Berlin are the most widely used, and have been in existence since 1954. Their meteorologists traditionally name all lows and highs that influence the Central European weather. In November 2002, the Free University began an Adopt-a-Vortex scheme, which allows anyone to buy a storm name. The money raised is used by the meteorology department to maintain weather observations at the university. Over 1,800 participants from 15 European countries plus Brazil, Japan and the United States have participated. So far in 2012, 90 European low pressure systems have been given names.


Your next winter storm brought to you by TWC and Carnival Cruise Lines.



Lloyd's of London -- What's in a Name/March 2010
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Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
Tropical Storm NADINE
...NADINE TURNS EASTWARD...
2:00 PM AST Tue Oct 2
Location: 34.3�N 37.2�W
Moving: E at 7 mph
Min pressure: 994 mb
Max sustained: 65 mph

: )


and...

2pm TWO

THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH A LARGE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED ABOUT 925 MILES WEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS IS GRADUALLY BECOMING BETTER ORGANIZED. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE FORECAST TO REMAIN CONDUCIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND THIS SYSTEM COULD BECOME A TROPICAL DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO. THIS DISTURBANCE HAS A HIGH CHANCE...70 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD OR
NORTHWESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH.


As the models show, she will turn EASTERWARD before she turns WESTWARD.
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Tropical Storm NADINE
...NADINE TURNS EASTWARD...
2:00 PM AST Tue Oct 2
Location: 34.3 N 37.2 W
Moving: E at 7 mph
Min pressure: 994 mb
Max sustained: 65 mph

: )


and...

2pm TWO

THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH A LARGE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED ABOUT 925 MILES WEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS IS GRADUALLY BECOMING BETTER ORGANIZED. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE FORECAST TO REMAIN CONDUCIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND THIS SYSTEM COULD BECOME A TROPICAL DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO. THIS DISTURBANCE HAS A HIGH CHANCE...70 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD OR
NORTHWESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH.
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Back west she goes.

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96L remains at 70%.

THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH A LARGE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM
LOCATED ABOUT 925 MILES WEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS IS GRADUALLY
BECOMING BETTER ORGANIZED. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE FORECAST
TO REMAIN CONDUCIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND THIS SYSTEM COULD BECOME A
TROPICAL DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO. THIS DISTURBANCE
HAS A HIGH CHANCE...70 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD OR
NORTHWESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH.
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Quoting AussieStorm:


Here in Fort Myers, FL my Stratus rain guage 24° total was .68 and more rain is on the way
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Quoting Neapolitan:
That's making the assumption that people who frequent Drudge can a) read, b) use the internet, and c) type. No worries, then... ;-)


That's just rude
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I think the definition of the ROCKY storm should be changed to "Balboa"..I'm just sayin..

And, in case anyone else already mentioned it.. I second it.
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Close to TD if not already.

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176. VR46L
Quoting AussieStorm:

If they don't like what I say, they can always add me to their ignore list.


I somehow doubt they will ...
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iam sad i dont see names like

break your back
over your head
slip and slide
freeze and sneeze

late thanks for the update doc

taz says i have to mention that

have a good day
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..........for the Tampa Bay area
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Quoting 7544:
so the blob by the western cuba in the gom will get pushed ene by the front today and will still give rain to fla from west to east right ? tia
yes they upped our rain chances here by me up to 80% which is ok, we need the rain, been dry here for awhile.
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Quoting VR46L:





See what I mean Aussie? LOL

If they don't like what I say, they can always add me to their ignore list.
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170. VR46L
Quoting AussieStorm:


any problem with that???


Quoting Neapolitan:
I dunno. Sounds a lot like sour grapes...



See what I mean Aussie? LOL
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Quoting Neapolitan:
I dunno. Sounds a lot like sour grapes...

You don't agree with none of that statement?

Really!!!! How did I know you were going to say something like that.

As been said already today, next they'll want to name thunderstorms.
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A Tropical wave was introduced in the Atlantic.
First report, "Hello Tropical wave..."hello, Atlantic"



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Quoting AussieStorm:
From Dr Ryan Maue ‏@RyanMaue
TWC doing it wrong. With any "naming" scheme, must either name/number all storms in sequence at threshold intensity. otherwise, arbitrary naming based upon societal impact is more a "post-event" judgment. Choose: go w/science or publicity, not halfway.


I for one 1000% agree with this statement.
I dunno. Sounds a lot like sour grapes...
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Quoting VR46L:


Careful Aussie You just mentioned Dr Ryan Maue ....


Ryan Maue ‏@RyanMaue
Has TWC promised NOT to trademark that list of names? Who makes final decision on naming at TWC? Who's the winter weather PhD on staff now?
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165. VR46L
Quoting AussieStorm:


any problem with that???


I don't but some of the bloggers who don't like his opinions on climate change may ....
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Quoting vinotinto:


Not all of us are rude Aussie. Many on this blog probably attack the drudge report because it does not tow the traditional media party line on global warming/climate change. Drudge was one of the few who dared link to stories on the East Anglia University scandal involving manipulated data used in their climate change research and continued to post stories that followed-up on the scandal. So, yes Drudge is definitely right leaning in their consolidating but there is no alternative as most other media lean the other way. I for one, prefer to have as much information as possible to reach a conclusion as opposed to having a pre-determined one shoved down my throat without the option of questioning it.
Of course, in your pursuit of "as much information as possible to reach a conclusion", you no doubt ran across the numerous independent investigations that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that there actually was no "manipulated data" at East Anglia University, and, hence, no "scandal". But purveyors of anti-science like Drudge nevertheless retain a deep and ideological commitment to denying facts, for their equally ideological followers demand it.

It's all really quite sad, if you ask me...
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163. N3EG
Just have to add this, since the naming scheme has been announced.....

THINGAMABOBBERCANE!

And let's not forget the anniversary of our Columbus Day Storm of 1962
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Ryan Maue @RyanMaue
I'm all for fixed Nor'easter names from a list, however, naming criteria looks a little arbitrary, not well thought out.
TWC should've presented a research piece saying how many "named" Nor'easters they would have had over past 10, 20 or 30 winters.
Named hurricanes means something for insurance purposes for coastal rates -- I'm sure nefarious outfits are licking their chops over this.
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Quoting VR46L:


Careful Aussie You just mentioned Dr Ryan Maue ....


any problem with that???
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TWC should instead persuade NOAA to do this.

Perhaps I missed something in the stories, but TWC is simply not authorized to do this on behalf of a nation or the world. They could easily drive an effort to get NOAA to adopt such a scheme. I am not saying naming a winter storm is a Bad Thing, but this move would make TWC a de factor authority - which they aren't. Having NOAA oversight would aid in vetted standardization of requirements used to give names.
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I think I want Nadine to be a hurricane one more time, just for kicks. She's trying pretty hard in the face of a more hostile environment, and her satellite appearance has been pretty good since very early this morning.

I say we have a new depression later today, and Oscar tomorrow.
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158. VR46L
Quoting AussieStorm:
From Dr Ryan Maue ‏@RyanMaue
TWC doing it wrong. With any "naming" scheme, must either name/number all storms in sequence at threshold intensity. otherwise, arbitrary naming based upon societal impact is more a "post-event" judgment. Choose: go w/science or publicity, not halfway.


I for one 1000% agree with this statement.


Careful Aussie You just mentioned Dr Ryan Maue ....
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Dr Masters, Will TWC be using this scale?

A Northeast snowfall impact scale (NESIS) is presented to convey a measure of the impact of heavy snowfall in the Northeast urban corridor, a region that extends from southern Virginia to New England. The scale is derived from a synoptic climatology of 30 major snowstorms in the Northeast urban corridor and applied to the snowfall distribution of 70 snowstorms east of the Rocky Mountains. NESIS is similar in concept to other meteorological scales that are designed to simplify complex phenomena into an easily understood range of values. The Fujita scale for tornadoes and the Saffir-Simpson scale for hurricanes measure the potential for destruction to property and loss of life by wind-related damage (and storm surge for Saffir-Simpson) through use of a categorical ranking (0 or 5).

Link
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From Dr Ryan Maue ‏@RyanMaue
TWC doing it wrong. With any "naming" scheme, must either name/number all storms in sequence at threshold intensity. otherwise, arbitrary naming based upon societal impact is more a "post-event" judgment. Choose: go w/science or publicity, not halfway.


I for one 1000% agree with this statement.
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Quoting vinotinto:


Not all of us are rude Aussie. Many on this blog probably attack the drudge report because it does not tow the traditional media party line on global warming/climate change. Drudge was one of the few who dared link to stories on the East Anglia University scandal involving manipulated data used in their climate change research and continued to post stories that followed-up on the scandal. So, yes Drudge is definitely right leaning in their consolidating but there is no alternative as most other media lean the other way. I for one, prefer to have as much information as possible to reach a conclusion as opposed to having a pre-determined one shoved down my throat without the option of questioning it.


I too prefer as much info rather than having it spoon feed down my throat.
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Quoting TomballTXPride:


If it doesn't conform to ones political ideology or agenda, it is automatically dismissed, refuted, and ostracized. It's just the way it is with a few. Don't let it get under your skin. Not the hill to die on.

So freedom of speech only matters if it conforms to what political affiliation people are. OMG LOL

99% of politicians are in the game to a) Make money b) ego boost.

WPAC still humming with activity.
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Quoting AussieStorm:

I don't know what Drudge is but that's a bit condescending isn't it?


Not all of us are rude Aussie. Many on this blog probably attack the drudge report because it does not tow the traditional media party line on global warming/climate change. Drudge was one of the few who dared link to stories on the East Anglia University scandal involving manipulated data used in their climate change research and continued to post stories that followed-up on the scandal. So, yes Drudge is definitely right leaning in their consolidating but there is no alternative as most other media lean the other way. I for one, prefer to have as much information as possible to reach a conclusion as opposed to having a pre-determined one shoved down my throat without the option of questioning it.
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Quoting Patrap:
Go to bed aussie.

: )

Excuse me.... I'll go to bed when I am good and ready Mate! I don't need anyone to tell me when to go to bed.

70%



THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH A LARGE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM
LOCATED ABOUT 900 MILES WEST-SOUTHWEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS IS
GRADUALLY BECOMING BETTER ORGANIZED. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE
FORECAST TO REMAIN CONDUCIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND THIS SYSTEM COULD
BECOME A TROPICAL DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO. THIS
DISTURBANCE HAS A HIGH CHANCE...70 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD OR
NORTHWESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH.
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