Major U.S. Winter Storms to get names

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 1:50 PM GMT on October 02, 2012

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October is here, and its time to start thinking about how the coming winter's storm might compare to mighty blizzards of years past. Do you remember the North American blizzard of February 4, 2010? No? Well, do you remember Snowmageddon, the massive February 2010 Nor'easter that dumped up to 38" of snow in the mid-Atlantic, and killed 41 people? The two storms are the same, but having a simple name for the snowstorm like "Snowmageddon" helps us identify and remember the impacts of the storm. Naming a major winter storm makes even more sense if it is done before the storm hits, to aid in raising awareness of the storm, and to reduce the risks the public faces. That's exactly what The Weather Channel is going to do for the U.S. this winter, they announced in a press release today. A group of senior meteorologists at The Weather Channel chose 26 names for the upcoming winter of 2012 - 2013. The only criteria was to select names that are not and have never been on any of the hurricane lists produced by the National Hurricane Center or National Weather Service. Naming of a winter storm will occur no earlier than three days prior to it hitting, to ensure there is strong confidence that the system could have significant impact on large populations. There is no national center for monitoring winter storms like we have for hurricanes with the National Hurricane Center, so I think it makes sense for The Weather Channel to take this step.


Figure 1. Snowmageddon in Maryland: February 4, 2010. Image credit: wunderphotographer chills.

U.S. winter storm names for winter of 2012 - 2013
Athena -- The Greek goddess of wisdom, courage, inspirations, justice, mathematics and all things wonderful

Brutus -- Roman Senator and best known assassin of Julius
Caesar -- Title used by Roman and Byzantine Emperors 

Draco -- The first legislator of Athens in Ancient
Euclid -- A mathematician in Ancient Greece, the Father of Geometry
Freyr -- A Norse god associated with fair weather, among other things

Gandolf -- A character in a 1896 fantasy novel in a pseudo-medieval countryside

Helen – In Greek mythology, Helen of Troy was the daughter of Zeus

Iago -- Enemy of Othello in Shakespeare’s play, Othello

Jove -- The English name for Jupiter, the Roman god of light and sky.

Kahn -- Mongolian conqueror and emperor of the Mongol Empire

Luna -- The divine embodiment of the moon in Roman mythology

Magnus -- The Father of Europe, Charlemagne the Great, in Latin: Carolus Magnus 

Nemo -- A Greek boy’s name meaning “from the valley”, means “nobody” in Latin 

Orko -- The thunder god in Basque mythology

Plato -- Greek philosopher and mathematician, who was named by his wrestling coach

Q -- The Broadway Express subway line in New York City

Rocky -- A single mountain in the Rockies

Saturn -- Roman god of time, among other things who had a planet named after him

Triton -- In Greek mythology, the messenger of the deep sea, son of Poseidon

Ukko -- In Finnish mythology, the god of the sky and weather

Virgil -- One of ancient Rome’s greatest poets

Walda -- Name from Old German meaning “ruler”

Xerxes -- The fourth king of the Persian Achaemenid Empire, Xerxes the Great

Yogi -- People who do yoga

Zeus -- In Greek mythology, the supreme ruler of Mount Olympus and the gods who lived there

I expect that this year The Weather Channel will be pretty conservative about assigning names, and only the very strongest winter storms will get named. For the eastern 2/3 of the country, storms that receive a ranking of "notable" or higher on NOAA's Regional Snowfall Index (RSI) or Northeast Snowfall Impact Scale (NESIS) are the only ones fairly certain to get named this winter. We only had one such storm during the winter of 2011 - 2012 (Snowtober, on October 29 - 31, 2011.) Thus, if we have another wimpy winter like last winter, we probably won't get to see the Wrath of Khan.

Naming of Winter Storms in Europe
Various organizations in Europe have been naming their winter storms since 1954, and the public has reacted positively to this practice. The names given by the Free University of Berlin are the most widely used, and have been in existence since 1954. Their meteorologists traditionally name all lows and highs that influence the Central European weather. In November 2002, the Free University began an Adopt-a-Vortex scheme, which allows anyone to buy a storm name. The money raised is used by the meteorology department to maintain weather observations at the university. Over 1,800 participants from 15 European countries plus Brazil, Japan and the United States have participated. So far in 2012, 90 European low pressure systems have been given names.


Figure 2. A huge wave from Winter Storm Klaus rolls into Santander, Spain, in this wunderphoto taken by wunderphotographer lunada on January 24, 2009. Klaus had a central pressure of 967 mb at its peak on the morning of January 24, and brought sustained winds of 59 mph, gusting to 81 mph, to Santander. Wind gusts as high as 124 mph (199 km/hr) occurred along the northern coast of Spain, and the storm killed at least 26 people in Spain, France, and Italy.

Naming of Lake Effect Winter Storms by NWS Buffalo
Tom Niziol, The Weather Channel's winter storm expert, was meteorologist-in-charge of the Buffalo, New York NWS office until January 2012. He tells me that for over ten years, the Buffalo NWS has been naming lake-effect storms. This was done only after the event occurred, to avoid any confusion, but was very popular with users. The names were chosen on a yearly basis by having the office staff vote for one of several themes--such as insects, heavenly bodies, famous scientists, minerals, Native American tribes, etc. Last winter, eight storms were named after breeds of cows (?!), as seen at the NWS Buffalo Lake Effect web page. I was not asked to contribute to this year's list of U.S. winter storms, but will lobby for next year's list of names to be taken from famous monsters--Rodan, Ghidorah, Nessie, Kong, Bunnicula, etc.


Figure 3. The most significant lake-effect snow storm of the winter of 2011 - 2012 was named Lake Effect Storm Evolene by the NWS office in Buffalo, New York. Image credit: NWS Buffalo Lake Effect web page.

Nadine
The Methuselah of Atlantic tropical storms, Tropical Storm Nadine, is slowly weakening over cool 22 - 24°C waters. Nadine will have accumulated 20 days as a tropical cyclone later today, but the end is in sight. Wind shear will rise to 30 knots and ocean temperatures will drop to 20°C by Thursday, which should cause Nadine to transition to an extratropical storm as it passes by the northern Azores Islands on Thursday and Friday.

96L off the coast of Africa no threat to land
A tropical wave that emerged off the coast of Africa over the weekend (Invest 96L) has a moderate amount of spin and a large area of heavy thunderstorms that is growing more organized. The storm is located about 925 miles west of the Cape Verde Islands, and is headed northwest at 10 - 15 mph. Wind shear is a moderate 10 knots, and is predicted to remain light to moderate, 5 - 15 knots, through Friday. The atmosphere surrounding 96L is fairly moist, and the disturbance does have a good degree of model support for becoming a tropical depression by late in the week. In their 8 am EDT Tropical Weather Outlook, NHC gave 96L a 70% chance of becoming a tropical depression by Thursday morning. 96L is likely to get pulled northwards by a large trough of low pressure over the Central Atlantic late this week, and should not be a threat to the Lesser Antilles Islands.

Jeff Masters

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Found this tweet mocking the winter storm names LOL

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Prediction: Nine months after the first of TWC's named storms to actually cause problems, there will be a boom of babies named after it.
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Post #235, I thought Popeye's rival for Olive Oyl was called, "Bluto"?
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I remember then TWC met. Karl Parker covered major hurricane Karl in the BOC...also Dr. Knabb covered 180 mph Rick....he called it..SUPER RICK IN THE PACIFIC!
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Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #27
TROPICAL STORM GAEMI (T1220)
3:00 AM JST October 3 2012
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SUBJECT: Category One Typhoon In South China Sea

At 18:00 PM UTC, Tropical Storm Gaemi (996 hPa) located at 15.4N 116.8E has 10 minute sustained winds of 40 knots with gusts of 60 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving southeast at 6 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T2.5

Gale Force Winds
================
150 NM from the center

Forecast and Intensity
======================

24 HRS: 15.0N 117.5E - 45 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Storm) South China Sea
48 HRS: 14.9N 116.2E - 50 knots (CAT 2/Severe Tropical Storm) South China Sea
72 HRS: 14.9N 112.6E - 50 knots (CAT 2/Severe Tropical Storm) South China Sea
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The cold front is about to clear through the Tampa Bay area tonight, it better stall soon and begin to lift quickly back north or else the wet forecast advertised days in advanced will be a dud. I will be upset as I have been hoping for quite a bit of rain. However I haven't had much confidence in the wet forecast though. The last front to stall was expected to be quite a drencher, and it too never really did do much more than scattered showers for a couple days. It's not over yet though, what happens over night into tomorrow morning will prove whether the rainy pattern truly materializes or not.


The reason might be the atmosphere over Florida often stabilizes quite a bit in the fall, which is the reason for a drop off in the rainy season, even if atmospheric moisture remains high. After an active rain season, it's common for the atmosphere to struggle into conditional instability or beyond for a while until the cooler season arrives.
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Quoting evilpenguinshan:
If you followed Drudge, you would know what he's getting at. They are one of the least reputable news sources, despite their large following, and are as bad or worse than Fox News (after all, who do you think feeds the Murdoch rags their gossip?)

All I have to say is get ready for tomorrow, the Drudge trolls will be all over this forum after the 24-hr registration period allows them to start trolling the comments.




Well, my point was never about Drudge in the first place, and it still isn't, lol. I get your point though.
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Quoting FtMyersgal:


We had light showers this morning, sun is trying to peek out but we are expecting more rain, just like Collier County for the new few days. I had a 24° rain total from 6 AM yesterday to 6 AM today of .68 in my personal rain guage. We needed it that's for sure



The forecast for our area around Tampa Bay sure has been implying that we should be seeing a lot of rain and will be. However since yesterday shower and thunderstorm coverage has been only about 30% to 40% at best. We are expected to have quite a rain even the next several days but so far it has been quite lame. It looks mainly to be focused over South Florida so far. That might change as the upper low in the Caribbean lifts into the eastern gulf. However, we already have very high atmospheric moisture and enough atmospheric triggers to support widespread rainfall off the gulf but for some reason it never materialized today.

With that said I don't think the event can be dismissed yet because the upper low itself is yet to influence the area. The lack of rainfall may be due to rather warm mid level temps which are suppressing showers and thunderstorms more that expected. The atmosphere even visually looks like it has that mid level capped appearance.



However upper divergence from the upper low should help to counteract the warm mid level air as it lifts northeast. How much is remains to be seen. I hope so, because we can always use more rain.
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I think my name (cody) should be used as a winter storm name. It's bad enough I can't be a hurricane!
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Quoting Jedkins01:



Intelligence, honesty, wisdom, and education are not synonymous, contrary to what some seem to imply.

I'm not leaning towards any political direction here, in fact I'm not familiar with Drudge really at all. I do however know that it doesn't look so good to assume someone with a political bias to be uneducated.


What's missing from the discussion is the fact that Drudge isn't just a right-leaning news aggregator, he's the internet equivalent of a supermarket tabloid. He posts rumors as if they're fact, with hilarious spinning police light .gifs around his "hottest" headlines. No story too unsourced, no allegation too lurid. He even "broke" the story of the McCain volunteer who claimed to be attacked by an Obama supporter who carved a (backwards) "B" onto her cheek. Spoiler alert: she was never attacked, the whole thing was a hoax.

So. Banging on the Drudge Report =/= banging on all conservatives.

In other news, the #RejectedTWCNames tag is a thing of beauty and a joy forever.
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If you followed Drudge, you would know what he's getting at. They are one of the least reputable news sources, despite their large following, and are as bad or worse than Fox News (after all, who do you think feeds the Murdoch rags their gossip?)

All I have to say is get ready for tomorrow, the Drudge trolls will be all over this forum after the 24-hr registration period allows them to start trolling the comments.

Quoting Jedkins01:



Intelligence, honesty, wisdom, and education are not synonymous, contrary to what some seem to imply.

I'm not leaning towards any political direction here, in fact I'm not familiar with Drudge really at all. I do however know that it doesn't look so good to assume someone with a political bias to be uneducated. In fact I've found many educated people to be just as politically biased and stubborn as those who are ignorant, that is, those having little education. I've also met some with little education, whom are much more intelligent/wise than many with a vast amount of knowledge and education. Education, and even intelligence is only a tool. It has very little impact on someones honesty or track record of wise thinking and decisions. While they can both exist in someones life, as I have stated they don't always.


With that said, the reason for people's political views is rather complex, or their views on life in general. It would be smart not to generalize people, even if we are tempted to do so, and it might seem easy to put large amounts of people into generalized assumptions.
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Quoting sunlinepr:
Brightest comet ever could make spectacular appearance 2013-2014
Posted on October 2, 2012

October 2, 2012 – SPACE - If astronomers’ early predictions hold true, the holidays next year may hold a glowing gift for stargazers—a super bright comet, just discovered streaking near Saturn. Even with powerful telescopes, comet 2012 S1 (ISON) is now just a faint glow in the constellation Cancer. But the ball of ice and rocks might become visible to the naked eye for a few months in late 2013 and early 2014—perhaps outshining the moon, astronomers say. The comet is already remarkably bright, given how far it is from the sun, astronomer Raminder Singh Samra said. What’s more, 2012 S1 seems to be following the path of the Great Comet of 1680, considered one of the most spectacular ever seen from Earth. “If it lives up to expectations, this comet may be one of the brightest in history,” said Samra, of the H.R. MacMillan Space Centre in Vancouver, Canada. So what makes a comet a showstopper? A lot depends on how much gas and dust is blasted off the central core of ice and rocks. The bigger the resulting cloud and tail, the more reflective the body may be. Because 2012 S1 appears to be fairly large—possibly approaching two miles (three kilometers) wide—and will fly very close to the sun, astronomers have calculated that the comet may shine brighter, though not bigger, than the full moon in the evening sky. First spotted late last week by Russian astronomers Artyom Novichonok and Vitali Nevski of the International Scientific Optical Network (ISON), comet 2012 S1 was confirmed by the International Astronomical Union on Monday. But while we know what 2012 S1 is, it’s still unclear where it came from. Its orbit suggests the comet may be a runaway from the Oort cloud, where billions of comets orbit about a hundred thousand times farther from the sun than Earth is. Right now, 2012 S1 appears to be about 615 million miles (990 million kilometers) from Earth, between the orbits of Saturn and Jupiter, astronomers say. As the sun’s gravity pulls the comet closer, it should pass about 6.2 million miles (10 million kilometers) from Mars—possibly a unique photo opportunity for NASA’s new Curiosity rover. Current orbital predictions indicate the comet will look brightest to us in the weeks just after its closest approach to the sun, on November 28, 2013—if 2012 S1 survives the experience. As the comet comes within about 1.2 million miles (2 million kilometers) of the sun, the star’s intense heat and gravity could cause the ice and rubble to break apart, scotching the sky show.

“While some predictions suggest it may become as bright as the full moon and even visible during the day, one should be cautious when predicting how exciting a comet may get,” Samra said. “Some comets have been notorious for creating a buzz but failing to put on a dazzling display,” he said. “Only time will tell.” -National Geographic


I'll believe it when I see it. I'm moderately interested in astronomical phenomena and bought a cheap telescope to view Jupiter when it made a close approach to the Earth about a decade ago. Glad I did. The sight of its four Galilean moons was even more exciting than the planet itself. They changed positions every night.

Back to comets - I've only ever seen one, comet Hale-Bopp, and it was pretty unimpressive. When I was a young man, there was a bit of a ballyhoo about the forthcoming comet Kohoutek. Never saw it, despite many hours looking.

A comet that outshines the moon would be by far the most dramatic astronomical event in my lifetime.
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Quoting biff4ugo:
I agree winter weather is worth naming too.
But I think this is more what people think of the names listed.
Athena – One of the characters in clash of the titans and the cartoon Hercules
Brutus – Popeye’s rival for olive oil.
Caesar – A nice salad, or that roman guy.
Draco – Harry Potter’s enemy
Euclid – donno, ask a math geek.
Freyr – beginning of a French song.
Gandolf – Awesome wizard!
Helen – more Greek history
Iago – The parrot in Aladdin
Jove – Someone whose got it! Or another name for Zeus.
Kahn – Captain Kirk’s enemy on Star Trek.br>Luna – Someone from Harry Potter or something from Mario Galaxy.
Magnus – Swedish weight lifter
Nemo – a clown fish cartoon.
Orko – the weird he-man cartoon magician character
Plato – if you are guessing it is the squishy stuff kids use.
Q - more Star Trek
Rocky – Balboa, yes!
Saturn – the car, or the planet that looks like CBS TV symbol.
Triton – yes, there is a cartoon for this too. Ariel’s dad in lil' mermaid.
Ukko – doono, sounds like Yu Gi Oh.
Virgil – he is in the Hercules cartoon too.
Walda – a storm that is hard to find.
Xerxes – Bad guy in 300
Yogi – Bear, Booboo’s friend.
Zeus – King of the Gods/Jupiter/see Jove above.


awesome...better done!
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no Alfa, Beta..Gamma...Delta...if we run out of names??? lol
well those are used for hurricanes...how about the Arabic Alif, baa, tha, dah...etc???
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Quoting dabirds:
5 going on 6


re-re-re-re-re-curve.
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Quoting Neapolitan:
That's making the assumption that people who frequent Drudge can a) read, b) use the internet, and c) type. No worries, then... ;-)



Intelligence, honesty, wisdom, and education are not synonymous, contrary to what some seem to imply.

I'm not leaning towards any political direction here, in fact I'm not familiar with Drudge really at all. I do however know that it doesn't look so good to assume someone with a political bias to be uneducated. In fact I've found many educated people to be just as politically biased and stubborn as those who are ignorant, that is, those having little education. I've also met some with little education, whom are much more intelligent/wise than many with a vast amount of knowledge and education. Education, and even intelligence is only a tool. It has very little impact on someones honesty or track record of wise thinking and decisions. While they can both exist in someones life, as I have stated they don't always.


With that said, the reason for people's political views is rather complex, or their views on life in general. It would be smart not to generalize people, even if we are tempted to do so, and it might seem easy to put large amounts of people into generalized assumptions.
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18z Best Track for 96L.

AL, 96, 2012100218, , BEST, 0, 137N, 389W, 25, 1008, LO
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Quoting Grothar:


You count em!

5 going on 6
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Does any one know what the NWS plans to do with those winter storm names...or they are not going to bother to use them?
Since the NWS information is the only official data for weather and severe storms...
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227. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #27
TROPICAL STORM MALIKSI (T1219)
3:00 AM JST October 3 2012
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SUBJECT: Category One Typhoon Near Iwo Jima

At 18:00 PM UTC, Tropical Storm Maliksi (990 hPa) located at 22.4N 141.4E has 10 minute sustained winds of 45 knots with gusts of 65 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving northwest at 11 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T3.0

Gale Force Winds
=================
375 NM from the center in eastern quadrant
150 NM from the center in western quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
======================

24 HRS: 30.3N 141.7E - 55 knots (CAT 2/Severe Tropical Storm) Near Hachijo-jima
48 HRS: 40.0N 148.6E - Extratropical Cyclone In Sea East Of Japan
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Brightest comet ever could make spectacular appearance 2013-2014
Posted on October 2, 2012

October 2, 2012 – SPACE - If astronomers’ early predictions hold true, the holidays next year may hold a glowing gift for stargazers—a super bright comet, just discovered streaking near Saturn. Even with powerful telescopes, comet 2012 S1 (ISON) is now just a faint glow in the constellation Cancer. But the ball of ice and rocks might become visible to the naked eye for a few months in late 2013 and early 2014—perhaps outshining the moon, astronomers say. The comet is already remarkably bright, given how far it is from the sun, astronomer Raminder Singh Samra said. What’s more, 2012 S1 seems to be following the path of the Great Comet of 1680, considered one of the most spectacular ever seen from Earth. “If it lives up to expectations, this comet may be one of the brightest in history,” said Samra, of the H.R. MacMillan Space Centre in Vancouver, Canada. So what makes a comet a showstopper? A lot depends on how much gas and dust is blasted off the central core of ice and rocks. The bigger the resulting cloud and tail, the more reflective the body may be. Because 2012 S1 appears to be fairly large—possibly approaching two miles (three kilometers) wide—and will fly very close to the sun, astronomers have calculated that the comet may shine brighter, though not bigger, than the full moon in the evening sky. First spotted late last week by Russian astronomers Artyom Novichonok and Vitali Nevski of the International Scientific Optical Network (ISON), comet 2012 S1 was confirmed by the International Astronomical Union on Monday. But while we know what 2012 S1 is, it’s still unclear where it came from. Its orbit suggests the comet may be a runaway from the Oort cloud, where billions of comets orbit about a hundred thousand times farther from the sun than Earth is. Right now, 2012 S1 appears to be about 615 million miles (990 million kilometers) from Earth, between the orbits of Saturn and Jupiter, astronomers say. As the sun’s gravity pulls the comet closer, it should pass about 6.2 million miles (10 million kilometers) from Mars—possibly a unique photo opportunity for NASA’s new Curiosity rover. Current orbital predictions indicate the comet will look brightest to us in the weeks just after its closest approach to the sun, on November 28, 2013—if 2012 S1 survives the experience. As the comet comes within about 1.2 million miles (2 million kilometers) of the sun, the star’s intense heat and gravity could cause the ice and rubble to break apart, scotching the sky show.

“While some predictions suggest it may become as bright as the full moon and even visible during the day, one should be cautious when predicting how exciting a comet may get,” Samra said. “Some comets have been notorious for creating a buzz but failing to put on a dazzling display,” he said. “Only time will tell.” -National Geographic
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FLOOD ADVISORY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
207 PM AST TUE OCT 2 2012

PRC001-023-067-081-083-093-097-121-125-153-022100 -
/O.NEW.TJSJ.FA.Y.0366.121002T1807Z-121002T2100Z/
/00000.N.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000 Z.OO/
HORMIGUEROS PR-LARES PR-MARICAO PR-SABANA GRANDE PR-SAN GERMAN PR-
YAUCO PR-ADJUNTAS PR-LAS MARIAS PR-CABO ROJO PR-MAYAGUEZ PR-
207 PM AST TUE OCT 2 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SAN JUAN HAS ISSUED AN

* URBAN AND SMALL STREAM FLOOD ADVISORY FOR RAPID RIVER RISES IN
FOR THE FOLLOWING MUNICIPALITIES...

IN PUERTO RICO
HORMIGUEROS...LARES...MARICAO...SABANA GRANDE...SAN GERMAN...
YAUCO...ADJUNTAS...LAS MARIAS...CABO ROJO AND MAYAGUEZ

* UNTIL 500 PM AST

* AT 206 PM AST...DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED VERY HEAVY RAIN IN THE
ADVISORY AREA. LOCALIZED RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF ONE TO TWO INCHES ARE
POSSIBLE THROUGH 500 PM AST.

EXCESSIVE RUNOFF WILL CAUSE FLOODING OF CREEKS AND STREAMS...ROADS
AND ROADSIDE CULVERTS. THE HEAVY RAINS COULD ALSO TRIGGER ROCK AND
MUDSLIDES IN STEEP TERRAIN.

MOST FLOOD DEATHS OCCUR IN AUTOMOBILES. NEVER DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE INTO
AREAS WHERE THE WATER COVERS THE ROADWAY. FLOOD WATERS ARE USUALLY
DEEPER THAN THEY APPEAR. JUST ONE FOOT OF FLOWING WATER IS POWERFUL
ENOUGH TO SWEEP VEHICLES OFF THE ROAD. WHEN ENCOUNTERING FLOODED
ROADS MAKE THE SMART CHOICE...TURN AROUND...DONT DROWN.

&&

LAT...LON 1820 6683 1812 6681 1810 6719 1824 6716

$$

CASTRO
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Typhoon Jelawat over turns a car (apartment parking)


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Quoting LargoFl:
...........anyone know for sure this storm is going to recurve??

Ask me in 5 days time.....
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Quoting biff4ugo:
I agree winter weather is worth naming too.
But I think this is more what people think of the names listed.
Athena – One of the characters in clash of the titans and the cartoon Hercules
Brutus – Popeye’s rival for olive oil.
Caesar – A nice salad, or that roman guy.
Draco – Harry Potter’s enemy
Euclid – donno, ask a math geek.
Freyr – beginning of a French song.
Gandolf – Awesome wizard!
Helen – more Greek history
Iago – The parrot in Aladdin
Jove – Someone whose got it! Or another name for Zeus.
Kahn – Captain Kirk’s enemy on Star Trek.
Luna – Someone from Harry Potter or something from Mario Galaxy.
Magnus – Swedish weight lifter
Nemo – a clown fish cartoon.
Orko – the weird he-man cartoon magician character
Plato – if you are guessing it is the squishy stuff kids use.
Q - more Star Trek
Rocky – Balboa, yes!
Saturn – the car, or the planet that looks like CBS TV symbol.
Triton – yes, there is a cartoon for this too. Ariel’s dad in lil' mermaid.
Ukko – doono, sounds like Yu Gi Oh.
Virgil – he is in the Hercules cartoon too.
Walda – a storm that is hard to find.
Xerxes – Bad guy in 300
Yogi – Bear, Booboo’s friend.
Zeus – King of the Gods/Jupiter/see Jove above.



Hey, those are my friends you're talking about!!!!
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...........anyone know for sure this storm is going to recurve??
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Quoting risavjl:
My area has been naming winter storms for 20+ years. They set up the names prior to the season, and use a different theme every year. We all remember the killer blizzard "Eagle" but the next storm "Falcon" was a bust. It works well for our needs. Are we to succumb to TWC names now? What if there is a storm that dumps 16in of snow locally because we have a lot of lake effect storms, like Buffalo? Will they name them separatly? Will they put a moniker on our storm? How about the huge storm that affects the dakotas and is named by TWC and it tapers off for a few days and rewinds eventually (same system) and slams the east coast? Will it then be renamed? There could be two or three separate storms happening around the country at one time. One a huge ice storm that cripples the Northwest at the same time the big Noreaster is crippling the east coast, with nothing in between. Will they be all be the same name, or separate names? How is TWC going to track this nationally? What if a rogue but large tropical storm named Marge hits FL in Dec, weakens, and ends up causing the biggest snowstorm of the year on the east coast? Will it be called MargeII or Marge the Sequel or a completly different name? Winter storms ebb and flow all around the US, as do summer storms. They all present themselves differently, and are perceived differently. I'd like to know more about how TWC will layout the criteria for naming one big storm and not other "lesser" storms.
..i like that idea..a huge snow storm for florida..with not ONE snow tire in the whole state lol
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The rain coming now!!!
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215. etxwx
Quoting fireflymom:
Looks like she is drawing the Gulf Coast area no, after she did an interesting job of an inside out Australia.



To me it looks like she's trying to complete one of those tests in the back of a magazine: "If you can draw this chicken, you are an artist!"

Sadly, I think poor Nadine will soon be relegated to the artistic mail room.
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Quoting FtMyersgal:


We had light showers this morning, sun is trying to peek out but we are expecting more rain, just like Collier County for the new few days. I had a 24° rain total from 6 AM yesterday to 6 AM today of .68 in my personal rain guage. We needed it that's for sure
yes we too had a few good showers this morning as well,more to come this evening they are saying, would be nice if this front thats going to stall over us for this week..would get some of this humidity out but its early in the season for that..
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Quoting Neapolitan:
That's making the assumption that people who frequent Drudge can a) read, b) use the internet, and c) type. No worries, then... ;-)
Thanks for pointing that out, Neo. Hadn't heard of Drudge Report, but now I'll be sure and stop in there to balance my point of view. ;-)
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Quoting Dragod66:
Wow this is awesome news... I think it will be a more exciting winter with this. Ive been asking this for years now because i have noticed that as of late these winter storms have been killing more people in the states lately than than most tropical ones.
..yes I like it also, and we must remember, its only on weather channel where the names will be.....so far anyway unless noaa picks up on it, or maybe...noaa asked weather channel to do this as a test...we surely dont know the behind the scenes talks.
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Looks like she is drawing the Gulf Coast area no, after she did an interesting job of an inside out Australia.
Quoting Grothar:


You count em!


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Quoting Neapolitan:
So far as I know, Matt Drudge isn't a member of this blog. But the day he signs up, I promise to afford him the same respect as I do all other members here, even those with whom I disagree.

After a morning of sometimes heavy showers, the sun's been shining here in Naples for the past few hours. How are things up in Lee?


We had light showers this morning, sun is trying to peek out but we are expecting more rain, just like Collier County for the new few days. I had a 24° rain total from 6 AM yesterday to 6 AM today of .68 in my personal rain guage. We needed it that's for sure
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Quoting Grothar:


We could have Nadine eggs in the baskets.


Link


Well the way shes hanging on she might spawn off Athena :)
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Wow this is awesome news... I think it will be a more exciting winter with this. Ive been asking this for years now because i have noticed that as of late these winter storms have been killing more people in the states lately than than most tropical ones.
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207. etxwx
Quoting Grothar:


Are they like moonpies?

Mooncake:

No word on any Dr. Pepper pollution problems, but I'll keep looking. :-)

In local weather news, it's beautiful day here in East Texas, 82 F, sunny and relatively low humidity (or low relative humidity...whatever). It's good gardening weather. At least I'm not falling over from heat exhaustion after digging the beds and that makes me happy. Hope ya'll are enjoying your day, too.
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Quoting RitaEvac:
We're going where nothing has gone before...you ready to go on a ride?

The $1 billion mission to reach the Earth's mantle


HEH !!

I can't help feeling like this is the same as pushing a nail into my car's tire.

When we pull it out, there's gonna be a long, gentle hissssss as all the air comes out and we deflate.

Flat Earth, anyone ?

:):))
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Quoting dabirds:
How many re's before curve for her now?


You count em!

Member Since: July 17, 2009 Posts: 71 Comments: 27107
My area has been naming winter storms for 20+ years. They set up the names prior to the season, and use a different theme every year. We all remember the killer blizzard "Eagle" but the next storm "Falcon" was a bust. It works well for our needs. Are we to succumb to TWC names now? What if there is a storm that dumps 16in of snow locally because we have a lot of lake effect storms, like Buffalo? Will they name them separatly? Will they put a moniker on our storm? How about the huge storm that affects the dakotas and is named by TWC and it tapers off for a few days and rewinds eventually (same system) and slams the east coast? Will it then be renamed? There could be two or three separate storms happening around the country at one time. One a huge ice storm that cripples the Northwest at the same time the big Noreaster is crippling the east coast, with nothing in between. Will they be all be the same name, or separate names? How is TWC going to track this nationally? What if a rogue but large tropical storm named Marge hits FL in Dec, weakens, and ends up causing the biggest snowstorm of the year on the east coast? Will it be called MargeII or Marge the Sequel or a completly different name? Winter storms ebb and flow all around the US, as do summer storms. They all present themselves differently, and are perceived differently. I'd like to know more about how TWC will layout the criteria for naming one big storm and not other "lesser" storms.
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Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:


If she is still here at Easter.....

uh oh...


We could have Nadine eggs in the baskets.


Link
Member Since: July 17, 2009 Posts: 71 Comments: 27107
I'm psyched about a Winter Storm named Bunnicula... can just see it!

NORTHEAST BRACES FOR ONSLAUGHT OF WINTER STORM BUNNICULA...

Residents in the NorthEast are bracing for Winter storm Bunnicula. Residents have been hiding their celery, carrots and cucumbers from the impending storm...

Film at 11.

:-)
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Quoting FtMyersgal:


You certainly are entitled to your opinion. That is your right. But to be rude to anyone who does not hold the same opinion as you is not following the rules of the road for this blog. It is not civil discussion to be rude to other bloggers. JMO
So far as I know, Matt Drudge isn't a member of this blog. But the day he signs up, I promise to afford him the same respect as I do all other members here, even those with whom I disagree.

After a morning of sometimes heavy showers, the sun's been shining here in Naples for the past few hours. How are things up in Lee?
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