Category 1 Typhoon Sanba hits Korea; 92L and 93L not a threat

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:43 PM GMT on September 17, 2012

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Typhoon Sanba battered South Korea on Sunday as a Category 1 typhoon with 90 mph winds. Sanba brought sustained winds of 46 mph, gusting to 69 mph, to Busan, South Korea, and heavy rains of 8.82" (212 mm) fell in 12 hours at Jeju, an island just south of the South Korean coast. Sanba is being blamed for two deaths and widespread power outages in South Korea and Southern Japan. Sanba has weakened to a tropical storm, and is lashing the North Korea and neighboring regions of China and Russia with heavy rains today. There are concerns that Sanba's rains will aggravate the food situation in North Korea, where two-thirds of the country's 24 million people are dealing with chronic food shortages. In August, Typhoon Bolaven flooded 127,500 acres of farmland in North Korea, and killed 59 in the country. Sanba pounded Okinawa, Japan early Sunday morning local time as a Category 3 storm with 120 mph winds, flooding 370 homes, mostly on the northern end of the island. Oku, on the northern tip of the island, experienced a gust of 124 mph (55.3 m/s), and 7 inches of rain fell on the island. Sanba became a Category 5 Super Typhoon with 175 mph winds for an 18-hour period ending at 12 UTC Friday, September 14, making it Earth's only Category 5 tropical cyclone so far in 2012.


Figure 1. Huge waves pound Yeosu City, South Korea, on September 17, 2012, as Category 1 Typhoon Sanba makes landfall. AP photo.


Figure 2. Radar image of Typhoon Sanba at landfall in South Korea at 9:50 am local time Monday September 17, 2012. Image credit: Korean Meteorological Agency.

Invest 92L in the Lesser Antilles
A tropical wave (Invest 92L) bringing a few heavy rain showers to the Lesser Antilles Islands is moving west at 15 mph. The wave is under a moderate 10 knots of wind shear, and has only a small amount of heavy thunderstorm activity, due to a large area of dry air surrounding the system. The amount of heavy thunderstorm activity has increased some this morning, though. The latest SHIPS model forecast predicts shear will be light to moderate, 5 - 20 knots, through Wednesday, which will favor development. However, the atmosphere over the Caribbean is unusually dry and stable, and this will make it difficult for 92L to organize quickly. 92L will bring heavy rain showers to the Dominican Republic on Wednesday, Jamaica, Haiti, and eastern Cuba on Thursday, the Cayman Islands and Central Cuba on Friday, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, Honduras, and Western Cuba on Saturday. None of the reliable models develop the system. In their 8 am EDT Tropical Weather Outlook, NHC gave the wave a 0% of developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday morning, but these odds will probably rise as 92L reaches the Central Caribbean on Wednesday.


Figure 3. Morning satellite image of Invest 92L.

Invest 93L in the Gulf of Mexico no threat
An area of low pressure in the Northern Gulf of Mexico off the Louisiana coast (Invest 93L) is bringing heavy rains to the coast, but is moving inland, and development into a tropical depression will not occur.

Nadine may be around another week
Long-lived Tropical Storm Nadine has already been around a week, and may stick around at least another week, as it heads east-northeastward on a track that will bring the storm close to the Azores Islands on Wednesday and Thursday. Steering currents for Nadine are expected to collapse by Wednesday, and the storm will move slowly and erratically for many days in the Central Atlantic late this week and early next week. On Friday, Nadine will become tangled up with an upper-level low pressure system, and the storm may partially or fully convert to an extratropical storm. By this weekend, Nadine is expected to drift southwestward, and could become fully tropical again.


Figure 4. Hurricane Nadine as seen by the MODIS instrument on NASA's Terra satellite at 9:45 am EDT Sunday September 16, 2012. At the time, Nadine was at peak strength--a Category 1 hurricane with 80 mph winds. Image credit: NASA.

Jeff Masters

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I see the Climate Prediction Center stated that SST anomalies in the equatorial Pacific came down. I seriously doubt we get an El Nino ever declared as cooling will begin over the next 2 months.
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Interesting... cold front is arriving.

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Quoting MAweatherboy1:
I'm gonna make CariBoy jealous.

From my local NWS discussion:

WHILE SOME UNCERTAINTY ON EXACT LOCATION...LOOKING AT A PERIOD
ENDING WED MORNING WHERE LOCALES MAY SEE UPWARDS OF 2-3 INCHES OF
PRECIPITATION ACCUMULATION WITH LOCALIZED HEAVIER AMNTS
. WITH MUCH
OF THE PRIOR WEEK DRY...IN ADDITION TO RIVERS AND STREAMS AT OR
BELOW THEIR NORMAL LVLS...FEEL THE ONLY THREAT RELATING TO WATER
CENTERS AROUND NUISANCE AND URBAN FLOODING.

I'm also under a high wind watch, and storm warnings are up for the coastal waters.


lol send some here please
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Quoting JLPR2:


= 0.13 inches

Well now, that sucks.

Here in Carolina PR, the airport, which is a little bit to my north reports 0.27 inches so far.

NE Caribbean is very dry and it's our rainy season.


It's also extremely dry at your location! Wow.. Now I'm beginning to hope for a better situation in October/November. They are supposed to be the rainiest months in the NE Carib :)
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Quoting prcane4you:
Israel Matos is now retired,but thanks a lot to him for so many years of brilliant service in Puerto Rico.


That is true. He was one of the best directors ever.
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Quoting java162:



to the south?? we in dominica barely got any rain....smh


The Lesser Antilles radar showed the bulk of moisture between St Lucia and St Kitts, with the most active weather in Martinique first, then Guadeloupe, and around Antigua. Now all activity has dissipated...
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Quoting pmzqqzmp:


Excellent news, is this due to El Niño development or neutral conditions ?
weak El Nino
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I'm gonna make CariBoy jealous.

From my local NWS discussion:

WHILE SOME UNCERTAINTY ON EXACT LOCATION...LOOKING AT A PERIOD
ENDING WED MORNING WHERE LOCALES MAY SEE UPWARDS OF 2-3 INCHES OF
PRECIPITATION ACCUMULATION WITH LOCALIZED HEAVIER AMNTS
. WITH MUCH
OF THE PRIOR WEEK DRY...IN ADDITION TO RIVERS AND STREAMS AT OR
BELOW THEIR NORMAL LVLS...FEEL THE ONLY THREAT RELATING TO WATER
CENTERS AROUND NUISANCE AND URBAN FLOODING.

I'm also under a high wind watch, and storm warnings are up for the coastal waters.
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If the ULL ends up in the GOM watch out!

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268. JLPR2
Quoting CaribBoy:
Rainfall so far this september : 3.4 mm. (1in = 25mm). So please don't ask me to smile when again ALL THE RAIN IS PASSING SOUTH.

If I had to choose between a cat 1 and this drought, that's easy to know which one i would choose!


= 0.13 inches

Well now, that sucks.

Here in Carolina PR, the airport, which is a little bit to my north reports 0.27 inches so far.

NE Caribbean is very dry and it's our rainy season.
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Quoting Articuno:

P.S who likes my new avatar?


Nice, but you didn't say anything about mine.
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Quoting CaribBoy:
Rainfall so far this september : 3.4 mm. (1in = 25mm). So please don't ask me to smile when again ALL THE RAIN IS PASSING SOUTH.

If I had to choose between a cat 1 and this drought, that's easy to know which one i would choose!



to the south?? we in dominica barely got any rain....smh
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I'm ready for winter. Should be cold and snowy for much of the East USA. Not historic or anything, just above average.
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Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:
New San Juan NWS director Roberto Garcia first day in job will be September 24.

Link

Israel Matos is now retired,but thanks a lot to him for so many years of brilliant service in Puerto Rico.
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Quoting Bluestorm5:
Cooler winter for Florida


Excellent news, is this due to El Niño development or neutral conditions ?
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You have to see how fast this is moving.



Link Please!

Link
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Quoting HimacaneBrees:
Just found out the whole truth about the LSU bomb threat. It was Nick Saban that made the threat. He is trying to avoid the imminent loss he's facing on Nov 3rd. This was an attempt to get LSU players to miss and fail some tests. Thus making them ineligible to play against and roll the Crimson Tide. Just sayin lol.
LOL
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2012 is to me A HELL OF A YEAR FOR THE EXTREME NORTHERN LEEWARDS
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Just found out the whole truth about the LSU bomb threat. It was Nick Saban that made the threat. He is trying to avoid the imminent loss he's facing on Nov 3rd. This was an attempt to get LSU players to miss and fail some tests. Thus making them ineligible to play against and roll the Crimson Tide. Just sayin lol.
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Quoting pmzqqzmp:
What are the chances for a cooler Fall & Winter in South Florida this year ? Last year we only fell below 50º 3 or 4 times.

Am hoping for a cool / cold Winter this year. Will an El Niño help or hurt the chances for that, and are we to be in neutral or El Niño this year.

Thanks.
Cooler winter for Florida
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Rainfall so far this september : 3.4 mm. (1in = 25mm). So please don't ask me to smile when again ALL THE RAIN IS PASSING SOUTH.

If I had to choose between a cat 1 and this drought, that's easy to know which one i would choose!
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Quoting Grothar:


Sometimes these systems go through a bombogenesis and can be very strong.


the invest currently around the GOM is supposed to phase with the cold front coming across the midwest and lead to the bombing..typical of a noreaster but this time around no cold air in place like the 1993 storm which is going to lead to the severe weather threat..
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Quoting wxchaser97:

Gro these two systems right now look very similar, could there be similar results no one knows.


I doubt it would get that strong. The storm of 1993 was a rare event and had a couple of other features this does not have. I do believe it will cover a lot of territory and if the lines form the way I have been tracking it, there could be some derecho-like features. It is a developing system. It will affect a lot of people though.
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Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Riding, Not sure if this will help, but I had the same problem, I tried a bottle of "Barefoot Muscato wine" I tried writing during the eye of Wilma after consuming the bottle. Not real sure about the accuracy of my post but "Oh Well"
Oooops
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guys watch this video on accuweather.. here
a huge lightning strike is close to this guy's recording it... right on the water
This happened in Montenegro...east of Italy.

AWESOME CLIP BUT TURN DOWN THE VOLUME BEFORE BECAUSE ITS VERY LOUD and CAN CREEP YOU OUT!
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Quoting Articuno:

I got Photoshop Elements 10 for christmas last year.


P.S who likes my new avatar?
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Quoting Grothar:


there's going to be alot of flooding warnings out for this system
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What are the chances for a cooler Fall & Winter in South Florida this year ? Last year we only fell below 50º 3 or 4 times.

Am hoping for a cool / cold Winter this year. Will an El Niño help or hurt the chances for that, and are we to be in neutral or El Niño this year.

Thanks.
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Quoting Bluestorm5:
Gro wasn't lying when he posted the link... whoa.



This is what I posted a couple of days ago when I wrote, "I saw it first"" and Taz wrote, You never saw anything first" LOL He likes to tease me. Hey Taz, you there?????
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Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
Riding, Not sure if this will help, but I had the same problem, I tried a bottle of "Barefoot Muscato wine" I tried writing during the eye of Wilma after consuming the bottle. Not real sure about the accuracy of my post but "Oh Well"


LOL!!!
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Quoting RidingTheStormOut:
Hi friends, a bit off topic, but it seems a bit slow. I am looking for products, or ideas, that make it possible/easier to write on paper with a pencil in inclement weather, rain, snow, sleet, you name it. Any idea my weather friends? Thanks in advance. Bob.
Riding, Not sure if this will help, but I had the same problem, I tried a bottle of "Barefoot Muscato wine" I tried writing during the eye of Wilma after consuming the bottle. Not real sure about the accuracy of my post but "Oh Well"
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Quoting Grothar:
THIS IS NOT CURRENT; IT IS THE STORM OF 1993

When these lows form in the Gulf and move north and NE than can bring widespread storms to many areas. This one affected over 100 million people


Gro these two systems right now look very similar, could there be similar results no one knows.
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Quoting HurrMichaelOrl:


he's interested in this as a weather enthusiast just like myself. It is a thrill always aiming to record that higher gust, just do not put yourself in harms way to do so. Until Beryl, my highest recorded gust here near Orlando was 39.1 mph on my Kestrel 1000 in a squall line that moved through in late March of 2011-it was really windy.

I went up to Jacksonville Beach for Beryl this year and the highest gust I recorded standing on the beach was 45 mph. I later noticed my anemometer somehow became set for knots, so this reading may have been around 50 mph. It is more difficult than you would think to be in the right place at the right time to record these gusts, sounds like you have a good shot at it though.
I drove from Tampa to max beach to see beryl as well! I recorded a gust of 51. It wasn't nearly as severe as it looked on radar.
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Quoting Grothar:
THIS IS NOT CURRENT; IT IS THE STORM OF 1993

When these lows form in the Gulf and move north and NE than can bring widespread storms to many areas. This one affected over 100 million people



Im under a high wind watch in CT... Gusts could hit 60 MPH!

This storm reminds me of that storm of March 13, 2010
HURRICANE WINDS REPORTED IN THE NYC AREA
here are some reports of rain and wind...

CONNECTICUT
...FAIRFIELD COUNTY...
BRIDGEPORT 3.94 400 PM 3/15 ASOS
DANBURY 3.76 800 AM 3/16 ASOS
SHELTON 3.72 715 AM 3/14 PUBLIC


...UNION COUNTY...
ELIZABETH 7.66 1100 PM 3/15 SKYWARN SPOTTER
ROSELLE PARK 7.21 200 PM 3/15 PUBLIC

...QUEENS COUNTY...
NYC/JFK ARPT 75 833 PM 3/13 ASOS
BREEZY POINT 67 330 PM 3/13 MESONET
FAR ROCKAWAY 64 458 PM 3/13 MESONET
NYC/LA GUARDIA 48 1001 PM 3/13 ASOS

...HUDSON COUNTY...
ROBINS REEF 78 718 PM 3/13 ELEVATION 236 FT
HARRISON 55 1125 PM 3/13 SPOTTER
JERSEY CITY 50 621 AM 3/13 MESONET
BAYONNE 41 525 AM 3/13 MESONET
KEARNY 41 339 PM 3/13 SKYWARN SPOTTER

I also remember I went to see Bastardi's video of this storm and he said
"HURRICANE WINDS IN NJ, NYC AND CT... DESTRUCTION AND POWER OUTAGES POSSIBLE" crazy guy!
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Gro wasn't lying when he posted the link... whoa.

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Quoting HimacaneBrees:



Mike should be evacuated as well buddy.
Mike should be, but he was evacuated first according to the rumors ;) I don't think that's true though.
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Quoting Bluestorm5:
Only in SEC school they would evacuate the live mascot first before alerting the students... all jokes aside, this is like the 3rd threat this week. Stupid.



Mike should be evacuated as well buddy. The SEC is THE BOMB
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Quoting ncstorm:


remember it very well..came home for spring break and got stuck and couldnt return to school for about a week due to the ice and loss of power...we discovered kerosene heaters thanks to the 1993 storm..


Sometimes these systems go through a bombogenesis and can be very strong.
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STILL NOT A DROP FROM 92L HERE AT 18N 63W. WE ARE NOT BLESSED AT ALL BY NATURE.
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Quoting Articuno:

I got Photoshop Elements 10 for christmas last year.



cool...do something with it like I did...
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that low in the Central ATL is NADINE!!! 168 hours out!

Nadine could be anotehr Kyle like storm..wandering for days...maybe Avila, Franklin or Stewart have to keep up advisories up to the 90th...
The NHC path makes it extratropical near the azores in 3-4days though...so I don't understand this...

another low coming off Africa
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Quoting RidingTheStormOut:
Thanks RiverGuy! That may be just the ticket! I'll let you know. Bob


I have a similar need as I willdoind a lot of nores on a boat sometimes in less than fun weather.
Quoting Grothar:
THIS IS NOT CURRENT; IT IS THE STORM OF 1993

When these lows form in the Gulf and move north and NE than can bring widespread storms to many areas. This one affected over 100 million people



I remember that event well... blew like the dickins here.
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Quoting Grothar:
THIS IS NOT CURRENT; IT IS THE STORM OF 1993

When these lows form in the Gulf and move north and NE than can bring widespread storms to many areas. This one affected over 100 million people



remember it very well..came home for spring break and got stuck and couldnt return to school for about a week due to the ice and loss of power...we discovered kerosene heaters thanks to the 1993 storm..
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Quoting Tazmanian:
looks like the 1st nor Ester for the E coast


nope,not a nor'easter its going west of us up through New York.Riding up along the Applachacians.
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Quoting washingtonian115:
You have to be paranoid and on guard these days.


Never be paranoid - if they are real threats, they want you to be terrified/terrorised and paranoid - be aware, be careful and stick 2 fingers up at them - they (whomever they are)must not change our way of life or they start to win.
Be aware, be on guard but carry on with life.

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