The new hottest place on Earth: Death Valley, California

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 1:18 PM GMT on September 13, 2012

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As any weather aficionado can avow, Earth's most iconic weather record has long been the legendary all-time hottest temperature of 58°C (136.4°F) measured 90 years ago today at El Azizia, Libya on September 13, 1922. One hundred thirty six degrees! It's difficult to comprehend that heat like that could exist on our planet. For 90 years, no place on Earth has come close to beating the unbelievable 136 degree reading from Al Azizia, and for good reason--the record is simply not believable. But Earth's mightiest weather record has been officially cast down. Today, the official arbiter of Earth's weather records, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), announced that the all-time heat record held for exactly 90 years by El Azizia in Libya "is invalid because of an error in recording the temperature." The WMO committee found five major problems with the measurement. Most seriously, the temperature was measured in a paved courtyard over a black, asphalt-like material by a new and inexperienced observer, not trained in the use of an unsuitable replacement instrument that could be easily misread. The observer improperly recorded the observation, which was consequently in error by about 7°C (12.6°F.) The new official highest hottest place on the planet is now Death Valley, California. A remarkable high temperature of 56.7°C (134°F) was measured there on 10 July 1913, at Greenland Ranch.


Figure 1. The trading post at Al Azizia, Libya in 1923. The photo was taken from the Italian military fort located on a small hill just south of the trading post. It was at this fort that the temperature of 58°C (136.4°F) was observed on Sept. 13, 1922 (used with permission from the family of Gen. Enrico Pezzi).

The story behind the overturning of Earth's most hallowed weather record
Today's announcement is the culmination of a 3-year research effort begun by wunderground weather historian, Christopher C. Burt. His blog post today, World Heat Record Overturned--A Personal Account, provides a fascinating detective story on how the record came to be cast down--and how the Libyan revolution of 2012 almost prevented this from happening.


Figure 2. The new official hottest place on the planet: Death Valley, California. Wide open spaces, infinite views, intensely salty water, mind-boggling heat. What's not to love about this place? Image credit: Wunderphotographer SonomaCountyRAF.

Dead Heat: The Video
Don't miss the 25-minute wunderground video, Dead Heat, a detective story on how the El Azizia record was overturned.

Atlantic tropical update
Tropical Storm Nadine is recurving to the northwest and north well east of the Lesser Antilles Islands, on a track that would likely keep this storm far out at sea away from any land areas. However, Nadine may eventually threaten the Azores Islands or Newfoundland; the models are divided on how the steering currents will evolve next week, and we cannot be sure which way Nadine will go during the middle of next week.

The models predict that a trough of low pressure off the U.S. East Coast may serve as the focus for development of a non-tropical low pressure system on Sunday or Monday, but this low will likely form too far to the north to become a tropical storm. The GFS model has been predicting a tropical wave coming off the coast of Africa may develop next week, but has not been consistent with the timing or location of the development.

In the Western Pacific, Super Typhoon Sanba is an impressive top-end Category 4 storm with 155 mph winds, and is headed north-northwest towards a possible landfall in Korea early next week.

Given the importance of the new world record all-time high temperature, I'll leave this post up until Saturday afternoon, when I'll post an update on the tropics.

Jeff Masters

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1097. Dakster
KOTG - You must live in a place that actually gets cold. It only gets cold enough here to turn off the a/c, briefly.
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1096. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
evening all just got home from work

the boiler guy was running behind took longer than expected

heating stuff ready now for the coming cold season

all i have to do now
is flip the switch when needed too
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1095. Dakster
Quoting washingtonian115:
I doubt we'll see something similar like that for years to come.The 2004 and 2005 were once in a life time type events.


We can only hope you are right.
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1094. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
Quoting CosmicEvents:
It's because:
a. It's relatively quiet in the tropics
b. The purge last year of 20 or so members that brought to the blog some life/humor, has had the unintended consequence of causing not only them but many others to look to other sites where we can talk and joke in down times like this, and be serious about the weather when there is weather, all without fear of being banned/minused into oblivion. It's a real internet social community, unlike here.



lets not forget
that those same members have also taken the childlike stance of trolling spamming and inciting ones that remain here
until they reach a point they are driven away or hide in the lurking halls

lets not go there it really will not work out in there favor
cause now that site itself is suffering lack of use except by a few
which even today still continue there childish actions which caused people to leave even them


in thinking there doing something
they achiive nothing
but the actions show whom
the trolls really are
and will lead them
to there own dimise
over time
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Quoting yqt1001:
I would like to announce that I am FIRST to have a Sanba avatar. As far as I can tell.

I think so too.

Good thing the storm is weakening as it heads for land.
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Does anyone see this 10% amounting to anything? If so what are its chances?
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1091. Skyepony (Mod)
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

I thought the motto for tropical cyclones in relation to Global Warming was 'more but weaker'.

Darn..


The research results overall have been mixed...but that's Emanuel there, he's spent so much effort on it & I've learned so much from him that it seemed more than worth the watch. Good footage too. I wunder if that's his wild yard the interview is set in.
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Quoting CosmicEvents:
It's because:
a. It's relatively quiet in the tropics
b. The purge last year of 20 or so members that brought to the blog some life/humor, has had the unintended consequence of causing not only them but many others to look to other sites where we can talk and joke in down times like this, and be serious about the weather when there is weather, all without fear of being banned/minused into oblivion. It's a real internet social community, unlike here.
Well, gee, if it's as wonderful over there in the as you say it is, what in the world are doing back here again?
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1089. yqt1001
I would like to announce that I am FIRST to have a Sanba avatar. As far as I can tell.
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1088. newt3d
Quoting Skyepony:
Kerry Emanuel: Strong anthropogenic hurricane signal in the Atlantic... serious increases in hurricane rainfall...categories 3-5 expected to increase

Thanks for posting that ... I scrolled down to see my former college adviser looking back at me. Glad to see he's still doing what he does.
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1087. Skyepony (Mod)
Hard to believe Russia has more land burned this summer than 2010.



On September 11, 2012, the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Aqua satellite captured this image of fires burning in Tomsk, a region of south central Siberia where severe wildfires have burned throughout the summer. Thick smoke billowed from numerous wildfires near the Ob River and mixed with haze and clouds that arrived from the southwest. Red outlines indicate hot spots where MODIS detected the unusually warm surface temperatures associated with fires.

More than 17,000 wildfires had burned more than 30 million hectares (74 million acres) through August 2012, according to researchers at the Sukachev Institute of Forest in the Russian Academy of Sciences. In comparison, 20 million hectares burned last year, which was roughly the average between 2000 and 2008, according to an analysis of MODIS data published in 2010.

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1086. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #34
TYPHOON SANBA (T1216)
6:00 AM JST September 15 2012
======================================

SUBJECT: Category Five Typhoon In Sea South Of Okinawa

At 21:00 PM UTC, Typhoon Sanba (905 hPa) located at 21.8N 129.3E has 10 minute sustained winds of 105 knots with gusts of 150 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving north northwest at 11 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T6.5

Storm Force Winds
=================
120 NM from the center

Gale Force Winds
===============
300 NM from the center in eastern quadrant
270 NM from the center in western quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
=======================

24 HRS: 26.4N 128.1E - 100 knots (CAT 4/Very Strong Typhoon) Naha, Okinawa region
45 HRS: 31.9N 127.3E - 90 knots (CAT 4/Very Strong Typhoon) East China Sea
69 HRS: 38.8N 128.7E - 75 knots (CAT 3/Strong Typhoon) Sea Of Japan
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

I thought the motto for hurricanes in relation to Global Warming was, "more but weaker".

Darn..
yes more but weaker, but the few that do strengthen could potentially be stronger than the strongest ones we experience currently (as a result of warmer SSTs/more TCHP).

...that's what I've always heard anyway
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1084. ncstorm
12z CMC
East Coast




Euro



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Quoting Skyepony:
Kerry Emanuel: Strong anthropogenic hurricane signal in the Atlantic... serious increases in hurricane rainfall...categories 3-5 expected to increase

I thought the motto for tropical cyclones in relation to Global Warming was 'more but weaker'.

Darn..
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Nadine is probably a hurricane right now. UW-CIMSS ADT is up to T4.4/75 kt.



Yep. I agree.
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Quoting Jedkins01:



Population is not the problem, its the human heart that's the problem, population is a problem only because what's inside us that is the problem, just like hunger, poverty, climate change, destruction of ecology and so on. No, I don't mean the organ heart. I'm talking your psyche, soul, depths of the mind, etc. whatever you may call it.

We always blame problems on influence, and circumstance, but, circumstance and influence are only influence. Where did the bad influence come from, more bad influence? That argument goes nowhere and is thus illogical. We have been told wrong. All human problems have a source in the human, bad influences may nurture and grow already a tendency for problems. However it's human nature that is the source of our problems. I'm not being cynical at all here. In fact, the reason we don't what to admit it's our nature to do wrong that is self destructive and counter productive.

The only way to grow is to encourage one other and ignore the lies that humans are good and they just need to be educated properly. Education helps but it doesn't trump human nature and stubborn will. There's a reason why child raising is so difficult, it takes 500% effort to make good progress with a child but it takes only a second for a child to be pulled/deceived in the wrong direction.

The saying "we're only human" really is a great place to start, but it can't end there, human life is a battle, a battle with ourselves, but we need to to do at as a team in order to overcome. Being a loner/exile makes the mind go nuts. We all have a nature bent towards problems, and we will face them all our life, but it's a mindset and a choice to overcome with the help of others that is the key.
No...overpopulation among humans is definitely a problem and will only continue to get worse as our population grows.
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Nadine is probably a hurricane right now. UW-CIMSS ADT is up to T4.4/75 kt.

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1079. ncstorm
Quitting Time!!!!

Didnt have time to post much today..here was the 12z Nogaps..


East coast from the GOM potential..

10% disturbance

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1078. Skyepony (Mod)
Kerry Emanuel: Strong anthropogenic hurricane signal in the Atlantic... serious increases in hurricane rainfall...categories 3-5 expected to increase
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Quoting CaribBoy:
wow everyone has deserted the blog!



Deserters will be shot!


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Quoting kwgirl:
Your government may want to check that out. If your islands are made as the keys are, coral rock, the leaching is much faster than originally thought. They had put dye in septic tanks up the keys and discovered the dye went right into the canals. When they started testing the canals, that is when the polio virus was discovered. Sewage seepage is a real serious health threat.


They have - and so far so good - as far as we know. The modern mains sewer system on the largest, most highly populated island continues to expand which is good; however, "ponding" of garbage dumps to prevent leeching remains slow, correct disposal of waste oil is still immature and has a long way to go and recycling per se is largely ineffective. Any leech will eventually affect the reef structures, which will affect tourism (a mainstay of GNP)- the risk of the presence of the polio virus on top of all that would be devastating.
After Ivan, I waded through sewage at one location - not a pleasant experience at all - but I was wearing a disposal hazmat suit.
Was there any evidence on the Keys to suggest that leeching occurred more quickly during high rainfalls, high tides or TS/Hurricane surge or storm rainfalls?
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1075. help4u
New hottest place on earth,Middle east!!!!Nothing to do with global warming!!According to news media on the ground.
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Quoting washingtonian115:
Wow blog is deeeeead.
It's because:
a. It's relatively quiet in the tropics
b. The purge last year of 20 or so members that brought to the blog some life/humor, has had the unintended consequence of causing not only them but many others to look to other sites where we can talk and joke in down times like this, and be serious about the weather when there is weather, all without fear of being banned/minused into oblivion. It's a real internet social community, unlike here.
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Quoting gordydunnot:
If you look at the central visible in motion you will see the wave at 12n 49w has a very nice low level circulation. It looks to be leaving the heaviest sheer. Last frame or two it seems to be picking back up. Think this is going to be interesting to watch.


I really hope so... :-)
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If you look at the central visible in motion you will see the wave at 12n 49w has a very nice low level circulation. It looks to be leaving the heaviest sheer. Last frame or two it seems to be picking back up. Think this is going to be interesting to watch.
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wow everyone has deserted the blog!
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Most GFS ensemble members have the Low associated with the wave crossing the Leewards. So I don't understand why the PR NWS thinks the bulk of moisture would pass south...
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One of the 12Z GFS ENSEMBLE lol



It develops the CATL WAVE
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Quoting GTcooliebai:
hmm...this may be true in terms of a once in a life time type event, but a similar thing happened in 1932 and 1933 with a bunch of deadly hurricanes making landfall with 1932 having at least 3,315 people perish, the most notable hurricane the 1932 Cuba hurricane which took the bulk of those fatalities. And 1933 the 2nd most active hurricane season on record behind 2005 having at least 651 people dead and that season had the: Trinidad hurricane, Texas Tropical Storm, Chesapeake–Potomac hurricane, Cuba–Brownsville hurricane, Treasure Coast hurricane, Outer Banks hurricane, and the Tampico hurricane.
But how many people that were alive then are alive no today? :) hmmm...
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Quoting washingtonian115:
I doubt we'll see something similar like that for years to come.The 2004 and 2005 were once in a life time type events.
hmm...this may be true in terms of a once in a life time type event, but a similar thing happened in 1932 and 1933 with a bunch of deadly hurricanes making landfall with 1932 having at least 3,315 people perish, the most notable hurricane the 1932 Cuba hurricane which took the bulk of those fatalities. And 1933 the 2nd most active hurricane season on record behind 2005 having at least 651 people dead and that season had the: Trinidad hurricane, Texas Tropical Storm, Chesapeake–Potomac hurricane, Cuba–Brownsville hurricane, Treasure Coast hurricane, Outer Banks hurricane, and the Tampico hurricane.
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Wow blog is deeeeead.
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1065. Skyepony (Mod)
Really great TRRM quicktime of Sanba.
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1064. Skyepony (Mod)
Click here for very large quicktime movie of the awesome TRMM pass NHC mentions.
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TROPICAL STORM NADINE DISCUSSION NUMBER 14
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL142012
500 PM AST FRI SEP 14 2012

A 1624 UTC TRMM PASS SUGGESTS THAT THE CORE CONVECTION MAY BE
IMPROVING IN ORGANIZATION...BUT THE MID-LEVEL CENTER IS DISPLACED
ABOUT HALF A DEGREE NORTH OF THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER DUE TO VERTICAL
SHEAR. DVORAK ESTIMATES REMAIN 65 KT FROM TAFB AND 55 KT FROM
SAB...AND THE MOST RECENT UW-CIMSS ADT ESTIMATE HAS ACTUALLY FALLEN
TO 55 KT. THE SATELLITE SIGNATURE SEEMS LARGELY UNCHANGED FROM
THIS MORNING AND DOES NOT LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THAT NADINE HAS
WEAKENED...SO THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS KEPT AT 60 KT.

THE VERTICAL SHEAR IS NOT EXPECTED TO WEAKEN DURING THE FORECAST
PERIOD. HOWEVER...THE SHEAR DIRECTION IS FORECAST TO CHANGE FROM
SOUTHWESTERLY TO WESTERLY IN A DAY OR TWO...AND THE SHIPS GUIDANCE
SHOWS THE NEGATIVE CONTRIBUTIONS OF STRONG SHEAR BEING CANCELED OUT
BY THE POSITIVE CONTRIBUTIONS OF A MORE FAVORABLE SHEAR DIRECTION.
AS A RESULT...THE STATISTICAL GUIDANCE SHOWS LITTLE CHANGE IN
INTENSITY OVERALL...BUT DOES STILL PRESENT THE POSSIBILITY OF
NADINE BECOMING A HURRICANE DURING THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THE HWRF
SHOWS NADINE STRENGTHENING SIGNIFICANTLY IN A COUPLE OF DAYS...BUT
THIS SCENARIO APPEARS LESS LIKELY SINCE THE CYCLONE WILL BE
APPROACHING COLDER WATER. THE UPDATED NHC INTENSITY FORECAST IS
VERY CLOSE TO THE SHIPS MODEL AND SHOWS A LITTLE MORE WEAKENING BY
DAY 5 THAN INDICATED IN THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY.

NADINE IS NOW MOVING NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD WITH A MOTION OF 015/12 KT.
THE STORM IS ENTERING THE BELT OF MID-LATITUDE WESTERLIES...AND IT
SHOULD TURN EASTWARD DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. A NORTHEASTWARD
TURN IS THEN FORECAST BY DAYS 4 AND 5 AS NADINE APPROACHES A LARGE
DEEP-LAYER LOW NEAR THE AZORES. THE TRACK MODELS HAVE SHIFTED
SOUTHWARD BEYOND 24 HOURS...LEAVING THE PREVIOUS OFFICIAL FORECAST
ON THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE. THE NEW FORECAST
HAS BEEN MOVED A LITTLE SOUTHWARD AS WELL...SHOWING A MORE
PRONOUNCED DUE-EAST MOTION FOR A TIME. THE NHC TRACK LIES VERY
CLOSE TO THE TIGHTLY CLUSTERED GFS...ECMWF...AND MODEL CONSENSUS
TVCA.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 14/2100Z 28.8N 53.4W 60 KT 70 MPH
12H 15/0600Z 30.1N 52.6W 60 KT 70 MPH
24H 15/1800Z 30.9N 50.4W 60 KT 70 MPH
36H 16/0600Z 31.0N 47.5W 60 KT 70 MPH
48H 16/1800Z 31.1N 44.1W 65 KT 75 MPH
72H 17/1800Z 32.5N 37.5W 65 KT 75 MPH
96H 18/1800Z 35.0N 33.5W 65 KT 75 MPH
120H 19/1800Z 37.0N 32.0W 55 KT 65 MPH

$$
FORECASTER BERG

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...NADINE TURNS NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD...
5:00 PM AST Fri Sep 14
Location: 28.8°N 53.4°W
Moving: NNE at 14 mph
Min pressure: 988 mb
Max sustained: 70 mph
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TROPICAL STORM KRISTY DISCUSSION NUMBER 10
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP112012
200 PM PDT FRI SEP 14 2012

KRISTY IS RESILIENT...AND DESPITE A PORTION OF THE CIRCULATION BEING
OVER COOL WATERS...THE CLOUD PATTERN HAS NOT DETERIORATED YET. A
COMMA-SHAPED CONVECTIVE BAND WRAPS AROUND THE CENTER...AND
SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES STILL SUPPORT AND INTENSITY OF 45
KNOTS. THE NORTHERN SEMICIRCLE IS ALREADY OVER COOLER WATERS...AND
IN ABOUT 12 HOURS OR SO...THE ENTIRE CYCLONE WILL BE OVER MUCH
LOWER SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES. ON THIS BASIS...THE NHC FORECAST
CALLS FOR A GRADUAL WEAKENING...AND KRISTY IS EXPECTED TO BE A
REMNANT LOW BY SUNDAY OR EARLIER.

MICROWAVE FIXES INDICATE THAT KRISTY IS MOVING TOWARD THE
WEST-NORTHWEST AT 7 KNOTS. THERE IS ENOUGH RIDGING TO THE NORTH OF
THE CYCLONE TO KEEP KRISTY ON A SLOW TRACK TO THE WEST-NORTHWEST OR
NORTHWEST DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. AFTER THAT...KRISTY IS
EXPECTED TO BE A SHALLOW CYCLONE AND WILL BE STEERED BY A WEAK
LOW-LEVEL FLOW...AND MOST LIKELY...THE REMANT LOW WILL BEGIN TO
MEANDER NORTHWARD. THE NHC FORECAST IS ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE
GUIDANCE ENVELOPE...PRIMARILY DURING THE LATTER PORTION OF THE
FORECAST...AND ASSUMES THAT THE CYCLONE WILL BE WEAKER THAN
INDICATED BY MOST MODELS AND BECOME STEERED BY VERY WEAK LOW-LEVEL
FLOW.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 14/2100Z 20.6N 113.1W 45 KT 50 MPH
12H 15/0600Z 21.1N 114.1W 40 KT 45 MPH
24H 15/1800Z 22.3N 115.5W 35 KT 40 MPH
36H 16/0600Z 23.5N 117.0W 30 KT 35 MPH
48H 16/1800Z 24.5N 118.5W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
72H 17/1800Z 26.0N 119.0W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
96H 18/1800Z 27.0N 119.0W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
120H 19/1800Z...DISSIPATED

$$
FORECASTER AVILA

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FLOOD ADVISORY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
424 PM AST FRI SEP 14 2012

PRC051-137-143-142315-
/O.NEW.TJSJ.FA.Y.0334.120914T2024Z-120914T2315Z/
/00000.N.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000 Z.OO/
VEGA ALTA PR-DORADO PR-TOA BAJA PR-
424 PM AST FRI SEP 14 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SAN JUAN HAS ISSUED AN

* URBAN AND SMALL STREAM FLOOD ADVISORY
FOR THE FOLLOWING MUNICIPALITIES...

IN PUERTO RICO
VEGA ALTA...DORADO AND TOA BAJA

* UNTIL 715 PM AST

* AT 422 PM AST...DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS
SOME WITH HEAVY RAINS OVER DORADO AND TOA BAJA WITH MOVEMENT NEARLY
STATIONARY OR DRIFTING NORTHWARD. RADAR ESTIMATES INDICATE THAT ONE
TO ONE AND HALF INCHES OF RAIN PER HOUR MAY BE OCCURRING THESE
SHOWERS. THIS AMOUNT OF RAIN COULD BE ENOUGH TO CAUSE FLOODING IN
URBAN AND POOR DRAINAGE AREAS.

MOST FLOOD DEATHS OCCUR IN AUTOMOBILES. NEVER DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE INTO
AREAS WHERE THE WATER COVERS THE ROADWAY. FLOOD WATERS ARE USUALLY
DEEPER THAN THEY APPEAR. JUST ONE FOOT OF FLOWING WATER IS POWERFUL
ENOUGH TO SWEEP VEHICLES OFF THE ROAD. WHEN ENCOUNTERING FLOODED
ROADS MAKE THE SMART CHOICE...TURN AROUND...DONT DROWN.

&&

LAT...LON 1843 6617 1842 6620 1840 6620 1840 6625
1843 6634 1849 6634 1849 6625 1848 6624
1848 6620 1849 6618

$$

ROSA
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Quoting Dakster:


Careful 2004 and 2005 were painful seasons for Florida...

Very painful Dak
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Quoting Dakster:


Careful 2004 and 2005 were painful seasons for Florida...

I doubt we'll see something similar like that for years to come.The 2004 and 2005 were once in a life time type events.
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1057. kwgirl
Quoting SSideBrac:

Septic seepage on many of the Caribbean etc Islands is possibly a lurking problem that has not been fully revealed, The potential horror of it is sometimes revealed, albeit it in a concentrated way, during hurricane surge and flooding.
When I built my house, I ensured that the french drain from septic system passed through - in U shaped runs - a deep gravel bed of about 200' x 20' x 8' - I am still curious just how effective it really is! - The beautiful blue ocean is only 100' away and the foreshore is a still a place of wonder for small fry and whelks and other forms of marine life.
We are helped because our islands have no rivers with run-off to the ocean but I wonder how long it is before public waste dumps and septic systems start to affect the ocean - they may well affect the potable water "lenses" before that.
Your government may want to check that out. If your islands are made as the keys are, coral rock, the leaching is much faster than originally thought. They had put dye in septic tanks up the keys and discovered the dye went right into the canals. When they started testing the canals, that is when the polio virus was discovered. Sewage seepage is a real serious health threat.
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Quoting TheHurricaneDundee:
Sigh... looks like ANOTHER Leslie

Really? Where?
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Quoting txjac:


Texas evacuated too ...crazy. I was sitting here at work, heard about the bomb threats and knew that my daughter was on her way to school at U of H ...made me worry/wonder if more school would receive threats


I'm 12 blocks down from U.T and all of a sudden air raid sirens blasted for about five minutes or so. We had one heck of a storm come through earlier so I instantly thought tornado warning but nothing else to confirm. Had no idea that the campus even had sirens. Thank god it was just a scare. We live in a different world and the events this week are a definite reminder.
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1054. Dakster


Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
I hope everyone has already realized that our nation is headed for a meltdown quite soon, especially now that the federal reserve will be endlessly printing money. I feel this is a matter of high enough importance to be allowed on any Internet space in this day in age, so I would appreciate it if my message can stay here. Everyone needs to take this information into consideration.


I just bought stock in ink and the company that makes the special fabric for our bills...

Should be called printing the money part 111 - the last resort.
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1052. maxcrc
In July 1913 the maximum temperature in the Death Valley didn't exceed 120F, as even a 2 years old child can understand by a short analysis of the weather conditions .
DV data until late 1920s are absolutely terrible and anyway as said, this is another funny joke which will last 90 more years, the most important thing is to understand this is HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AIR TEMPERATURE.
Jokers should change their jobs and go to theaters to make people laugh, climatology is another stuff.
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1051. Dakster
Quoting washingtonian115:
The blog would've gone mad!!.I wonder what would happen on the blog if we had a 2004 repeat o_0?


Careful 2004 and 2005 were painful seasons for Florida...

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Nadine is looking good, latest pass shows a mostly closed eyewall developing. Could see an upgrade at 5, but knowing the NHC they will be conservative.

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If Nadine keeps it up we could finally have our 8th hurricane of the season.

I still think she can make a good run to 100mph.
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1047. MTWX
Quoting goosegirl1:


We call them "blizzard babies".


gotta stay warm somehow... Right???
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Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.