90L in the Gulf disorganized; Leslie and Michael weaken

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:27 PM GMT on September 07, 2012

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A partial remnant of Hurricane Isaac off the coast of Louisiana, Invest 90L, was almost torn apart last night by wind shear, but is making a bit of a comeback today. Visible satellite loops and surface observations from buoys and oil rigs in the Gulf show that 90L has an sloppy, elongated surface circulation. The area covered by heavy thunderstorms is relatively modest, and has been pushed to the south side of the circulation center by strong northerly winds that are creating a high 20 knots of wind shear. There is a large amount of dry air that surrounds 90L on all sides that is interfering with development. A hurricane hunter aircraft scheduled to investigate 90L today was cancelled, and has been rescheduled for Saturday afternoon.


Figure 1. Visible satellite image of Invest 90L taken at 11:58 am EDT Friday September 7, 2012.

Forecast for 90L
Wind shear over 90L is predicted to stay in the moderate to high range, 15 - 20 knots, through Saturday morning, then drop to the low range Saturday afternoon through Sunday. Ocean temperatures in the Gulf are 28.5° - 29°C, which is plenty warm enough to support formation of a tropical storm. 90L is essentially stationary this morning, but should begin a slow motion to the east-northeast tonight, in response to the steering flow from a trough of low pressure and its associated surface cold front approaching the Gulf Coast from the northwest. This trough should be capable of pulling 90L to a landfall along the Florida Panhandle or west coast of Florida by Sunday morning. In their 8 am Tropical Weather Outlook, NHC gave 90L a 20% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Sunday morning. I put these odds higher, at 30%.

Leslie weakens to a tropical storm
Tropical Storm Leslie continues to remain nearly stationary to the south of the island of Bermuda, and a NOAA hurricane hunter aircraft found this morning that Leslie had weakened below hurricane strength, to a 70 mph tropical storm. An ocean probe launched by the aircraft found that the ocean temperatures at one location in Leslie were 24.5°C, a full 5°C (8°F) drop from when the storm first reached the area two days ago. Moderate wind shear of 10 - 20 knots due to strong upper-level winds out of the west continue to drive dry air to Leslie's west into the core of the storm. The combined effect of shear and cool waters have eroded away Leslie's core, and the storm has no eyewall, as seen on satellite loops. A NOAA hurricane hunter aircraft will be in the storm tonight, and an uncrewed NASA Global Hawk aircraft finished an HS3 Hurricane Research Mission into Leslie this morning.


Figure 2. Hurricane Leslie as seen by NASA's Aqua satellite at 10:45 am EDT Thursday, September 6, 2012. At the time, Leslie was a Category 1 hurricane with 75 mph winds. Image credit: NASA.

Forecast for Leslie
A strong trough of low pressure approaching the U.S. East Coast should make Leslie start moving to the north at 5 mph by Saturday morning. The models have stayed with their more eastwards solution to Leslie's track, which keeps the threat of Bermuda receiving hurricane-force winds relatively low, since the island is expected to be on the weak (left) side of the storm. If the official NHC forecast verifies, tropical storm-force winds will just graze Bermuda Sunday morning through Sunday evening. According to the latest SHIPS model forecast, the shear is expected to fall to the low category, 5 - 10 knots, by Friday night. Leslie is over warm ocean waters of 29 - 30°C, and once the storm moves away from the large pool of cool waters it has stirred up, the reduction in shear and warm waters should allow the storm to intensify to at least a Category 1 hurricane by Sunday. The latest 11 am EDT NHC wind probability forecast calls for a 30% chance that Leslie will be a Category 2 or stronger hurricane Sunday morning at 8 am EDT, when the storm will be beginning its closest pass to Bermuda. Leslie is a huge storm, and tropical storm-force winds are expected to extend outward from its center 200 - 220 miles by Sunday.

Most of the models indicate Leslie is likely to make landfall in Newfoundland, Canada on Tuesday night or Wednesday morning. However, the models have been trending more to the east with Leslie's track in recent runs, and given the uncertainty in 4-day hurricane forecasts, the storm could very well miss the island, passing to the northeast. Large swells from Leslie are pounding the entire Eastern Seaboard, and are creating beach erosion and dangerous rip currents.


Figure 3. Hurricane Michael as seen by NASA's Aqua satellite at 12:20 pm EDT Thursday September 6, 2012. At the time, Michael was a Category 3 hurricane with 115 mph winds. Image credit: NASA.

Hurricane Michael weakens to Category 2
The only major hurricane of the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season, Hurricane Michael, has weakened, and is now a Category 2 storm with 105 mph winds. Satellite loops show that Michael is still an impressive storm with a well-developed eye, but the storm is not as symmetric, and the eye no longer as distinct as was the case yesterday. Michael is far out over the open Atlantic, and none of the models show that Michael will threaten any land areas during the coming seven days.

Elsewhere in the Atlantic
Most of the reliable computer models are predicting that a new tropical wave moving off the coast of Africa today will develop into a tropical depression by the middle of next week. This wave is predicted to exit Africa too far north to threaten the Lesser Antilles Islands.

Jeff Masters

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1051. RTSplayer
5:32 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting LargoFl:
OK all you fishermen..got this from the ny daily news..this washed up from the east river in NYC..WHAT IS IT??..it confounds animal experts....................



Looks like a partially decayed pig or dog.
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1050. FLWeatherFreak91
5:16 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting Jedkins01:


In situations like this is where its good to live near the coast. I've had an incredible amount of rain since the rainy season started, and I've seen numerous street flooding episodes, yet it all quickly drains off. Not so for inland areas. Apparently some places have had significant flooding since Debby and the water has never gone down because it gets replenished by additional rounds of heavy rainfall.


With an El Nino winter approaching we probably won't have much of a "dry" season either. I had a feeling we would eventually start seeing a large amount of rain and flooding, because for the past several years it seems central Florida has struggled with drought on and off with only short term relief from it. I knew it would eventually come to an end and we would start seeing the opposite to balance things out.
well it's definitely balancing out now in my opinion. I've lived on my property since 95 and have never seen such a prolonged flood. There's literally been one day since Debby that the standing water receded, but it came back by the next afternoon after only an inch of rain.

I believe this also has to do with a large number of sub divisions which have recently been built around my area which block natural drainage into the many swamps.

If I were to get a quick two to three inches water would be in my house for the first time since it was built in the mid seventies. Very strange year
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1049. AegirsGal
4:36 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting LargoFl:
OK all you fishermen..got this from the ny daily news..this washed up from the east river in NYC..WHAT IS IT??..it confounds animal experts....................
ooo ooo ooo!! I wanna take a guess!!! A trashed 'critter' made of rubber, plastic and latex constructed by a student of special effects!!! Did I win?
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1048. StormDrain
4:21 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting LargoFl:
OK all you fishermen..got this from the ny daily news..this washed up from the east river in NYC..WHAT IS IT??..it confounds animal experts....................
1. Nauseating.
2. Flagged.
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1047. Neapolitan
4:19 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting TampaWeatherBuff [#970]:
The idea that the climate *needs* a single reason to change -- and moreover one we somehow we believe we can control through legislation -- is appealing to weak political minds, desperate to find a fig leaf for a failed ideology of command and control that gives them power to take resources from others and use them as they will.

I accept that the climate is changing. I accept that we -- being, as it were, significant members of the ecosystem -- have some kind of impact, for both good and ill.

But where I draw the line is that the so-called scientists, who have displayed no shortage of political motivation, are trying to assert as fact that we know the cause and how to fix it. Invariably, this requires an all-powerful government, informed by unaccountable experts, who dictate to everyone else what constitutes acceptable limits of human existence and activity.

I don't believe government-funded know-it-alls have any better chance of surviving the weather and climate change than free people.

I am fascinated by the changes that are happening. I cringe at the modern faith that somehow the changes we are experiencing are more dramatic than changes that have happened in aeons past, let alone something we can legislate away, oh, if only we had the political will (read: total agreement with no dissenters).

I love Dr. Masters like any other long-time member here. But he is human, and humans have opinions (often irrational ones, that we manage to rationalize), and no one, not even a "scientist" is immune to bias. The political left worships scientists as the new humanist priesthood, and get very cross with anyone who dares to doubt their altruistic motives. Even when we discover, alas, that they do indeed get involved in politics.

But none of this diminishes my interest to know more and understand what is going on. Nor does it diminish my experience of this site, and support of the people who run it, even when I perceive a sharp disagreement on matters of political significance.

I suspect the forces at work are far larger than we imagine and that we have not displayed sufficient humility before our own ignorance, is all. When Dr. Masters displays this humility -- which is the vast majority of the time -- I find his analysis very worthwhile. And I'm not really bothered by his forays into ideological rigidity. What's a little passion among friends?
I think your screed, well-written as it is, would be easier to accept if you hadn't fallen into the stereotypical parlance of the extremist science-fearing right by employing dog whistle phrases such as "so-called scientists", "all-powerful government", "the political left worships scientists", "or "government-funded know-it-alls." But because you chose to do so, I imagine many supporters of the overwhelming science in support of climate change theory will simply dismiss it as yet another baseless and ideologically-motivated attack on the truth. Pity.

The thing is, supporting the search for the unvarnished and unspun scientific truth doesn't make one a religious worshiper; it makes one a truth seeker. And in my experience, the two are very seldom one and the same.
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1046. Neapolitan
4:15 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting sirjimbob:


It's about as rare as anywhere else not in tornado alley. We've had tornados in Brooklyn multiple times in the past decade. It's even more common to have waterspouts.
There wasn't a single tornado recorded in or around NYC from 1950 to 1974. That makes them far more rare than many locations outside tornado alley. On average, there is a tornado in the city roughly once per decade (though there was one just two years ago). I'd say that qualifies as "rare"...
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1045. elvette
4:14 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
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1044. Skyepony (Mod)
4:13 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
91L Model spread grows..



Quoting PensacolaDoug:




Personal attacks violate the standards don't they?


Sorry Doug..You seemed upset the other members here keep flagging out your mostly naked queer old man photos.. It was less an attack than an assumption about your obsession. Guess one I shouldn't have made.. Sorry for hurting your feelings.. Please stopping posting tasteful nudes, near nudes or any other picture of Leslie Nielsen.
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1043. help4u
4:12 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Hate humans day on weather blog,we have some great thinkers on this site!Tomorrow alaways has the best sermons on this site,end of world sermon!
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1042. Grothar
4:12 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting Dakster:


What was it called back then?


Atlantis.
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1041. Jedkins01
4:11 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting WeatherNerdPR:

Ooorrr maybe it's just a bloated dead pig :P
But yeah, humans are terrible.



It doesn't look entirely like a pig though. I would have to see an honest study on that creature proving it's entirely a pig. When animals decay, it does change their appearance somewhat, however that doesn't account for everything in that photo.
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1040. jamesrainier
4:10 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
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1039. WeatherNerdPR
4:10 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Leslie is such a strange storm...
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1038. jamesrainier
4:09 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
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1037. Ameister12
4:08 PM GMT on September 08, 2012

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1036. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
4:07 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
1035. AustinDangerPowers
4:07 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting Dakster:


Zing!

Not nice though...


Smashingly hilarious baby!
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1034. Jedkins01
4:07 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting WatchingThisOne:


Personally, I favor the "pig with its snout chewed off" hypothesis.


I definitely see pig in it, but it doesn't look like it is purely swine. Furthermore, there have been a couple of deformed animals washed up on the beaches of the northeast, and even a human with deformed elongated fingers. I don't panic about government/big corporation deceit, but I don't try deny what goes on either.

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1033. WeatherNerdPR
4:06 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
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1032. sirjimbob
4:06 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting reedzone:
This is very rare people..


No, it's not Kansas, it's Brooklyn


It's about as rare as anywhere else not in tornado alley. We've had tornados in Brooklyn multiple times in the past decade. It's even more common to have waterspouts.
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1031. washingtonian115
4:05 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting elvette:


He is beautiful compared to leslie....

Ew..why won't she just go away?.It was a waste of time and money sending Jim to Bermuda.At least he get's to enjoy the vacation.
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1030. Invest80Lurk
4:04 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
The radar for 91L is southern florida ...Wishcasting? you decide.
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1029. WeatherNerdPR
4:04 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting Jedkins01:



That is disgusting, looks like some sort of horrible experimentation, probably a cooperation between billion dollar drug companies and the government, doing research for "the good of mankind"

The junk that human beings do disturbs me...

Ooorrr maybe it's just a bloated dead pig :P
But yeah, humans are terrible.
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1028. elvette
4:03 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting washingtonian115:
Micheal ain't going no wayah(where).Still chugging along and will likely be a major again by this afternoon or tonight.


He is beautiful compared to leslie..

Leslie

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1027. WatchingThisOne
4:02 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting Jedkins01:



That is disgusting, looks like some sort of horrible experimentation, probably a cooperation between billion dollar drug companies and the government, doing research for "the good of mankind"

The junk that human beings do disturbs me...


Personally, I favor the "pig with its snout chewed off" hypothesis.
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1026. Jedkins01
4:01 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting LargoFl:
OK all you fishermen..got this from the ny daily news..this washed up from the east river in NYC..WHAT IS IT??..it confounds animal experts....................



That is disgusting, looks like some sort of horrible experimentation, probably a cooperation between billion dollar drug companies and the government, doing research for "the good of mankind"

The junk that human beings do disturbs me...
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1025. elvette
4:00 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting aislinnpaps:
Animals in water for a length of time will bloat making it difficult to know what it is.


Looks like a pig to me
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1023. washingtonian115
3:58 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Micheal ain't going no wayah(where).Still chugging along and will likely be a major again by this afternoon or tonight.
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1022. aislinnpaps
3:58 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Animals in water for a length of time will bloat making it difficult to know what it is.
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1021. Ameister12
3:56 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Another Tornado Warning


999
WFUS51 KOKX 081527
TOROKX
NYC087-119-081600-
/O.NEW.KOKX.TO.W.0007.120908T1527Z-120908T1600Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
1127 AM EDT SAT SEP 8 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON NY HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
WESTCHESTER COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK...
ROCKLAND COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK...

* UNTIL NOON EDT...

* AT 1126 AM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR MONSEY...
MOVING NORTHEAST AT 25 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO NEW
CITY...POMONA...HAVERSTRAW...PEEKSKILL AND YORKTOWN HEIGHTS

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

HEAVY RAINFALL MAY OBSCURE THIS TORNADO. TAKE COVER NOW! IF YOU WAIT
TO SEE OR HEAR IT COMING...IT MAY BE TOO LATE TO GET TO A SAFE PLACE.

THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE DURING A TORNADO IS IN A BASEMENT. GET UNDER A
WORKBENCH OR OTHER PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. IF NO BASEMENT IS
AVAILABLE...SEEK SHELTER ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING IN AN
INTERIOR HALLWAY OR ROOM SUCH AS A CLOSET. USE BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO
COVER YOUR BODY AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

IF IN MOBILE HOMES OR VEHICLES...EVACUATE THEM AND GET INSIDE A
SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. IF NO SHELTER IS AVAILABLE...LIE FLAT IN THE
NEAREST DITCH OR OTHER LOW SPOT AND COVER YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HANDS.

&&

LAT...LON 4113 7412 4132 7399 4134 7384 4128 7374
4107 7403
TIME...MOT...LOC 1527Z 214DEG 22KT 4114 7404

$$
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1020. Invest80Lurk
3:55 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting LargoFl:
OK all you fishermen..got this from the ny daily news..this washed up from the east river in NYC..WHAT IS IT??..it confounds animal experts....................


just a pig with the snout chewed off. mmm mmm bacon
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1019. elvette
3:54 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Michael...

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1017. Dakster
3:53 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting LargoFl:
OK all you fishermen..got this from the ny daily news..this washed up from the east river in NYC..WHAT IS IT??..it confounds animal experts....................


I give up... What is it?
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1016. palmettobug53
3:53 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Ewwww... that looks like a hog or possibly a dog. Was trying to look at the teeth but I can't tell.
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1015. JTDailyUpdate
3:52 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
From FDNY Queens Fire Dispatch on Radio Reference

Tornado touchdown in queens. Battalion 47 on scene (10:36 CDT)

Link
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1014. Dakster
3:52 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting Grothar:


I was born there.


What was it called back then?
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1013. FireWeather161
3:50 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
I have to say, I cant wait to watch Reed T try to drive through the streets of NYC chasing a tornado. I would pay a great deal of money for that.

As for our touchdown, pretty much wrapped up for now. Nothing significant in the way of damage, But an amazing sight to see.
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1012. skook
3:49 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Firefighters are responding to a beachfront neighborhood in New York City after reports of a possible tornado strike.

A Fire Department spokesman said there were reports of power lines down and possibly other damage in the Point Breeze section of the Rockaway peninsula in Queens.

The National Weather Service issued a tornado warning for Queens and Brooklyn as a line of strong thunderstorms moved through the city.

The service said radar detected a "strong rotation" in the storm, but there was no immediate confirmation that a twister actually formed.

The warning was in effect through 11:30 a.m.

Read more: http://www.myfoxny.com/story/19490619/fdny-respond s-to-possible-tornado-in-nyc#ixzz25tTptyo7
Link
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1011. LargoFl
3:49 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting TampaWeatherBuff:


Very dead, by the looks of it.

Seriously: It looks like some unholy cross between a wild boar and a hyena.
I have to tell ya..this is NO WAY im ever going to the beach up there lol
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1010. DocNDswamp
3:48 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting hydrus:
NAO going negative..


G'day Hydrus,
Should be interesting if NAO does drop off as ECMWF indicates, from what recall the CPC's GFS ensembles are in similar vein...

The effects of the NAO's negative dip as seen from 500 mb height anomalies over past month correspond well -
Note as strong ridge developed over Greenland near 3rd week August, coincided with abnormally deep troughing / unseasonably cooler pattern over E half US, focused on the Cen US from Great Lakes / Midwest down to Gulf coast... That period was a welcome change for the drought-plagued Midwest as got a nice break with needed rainfall followed by cooler / drier wx and several record lows set... Even here in SE LA, had 5 mornings temps dropped into the up 60's and a few days break from hvy rainfall... before Isaac came visit to wrap up the month.
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1009. WeatherNerdPR
3:48 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting LargoFl:
OK all you fishermen..got this from the ny daily news..this washed up from the east river in NYC..WHAT IS IT??..it confounds animal experts....................

Judging from the ears and the red/pink skin, it's more than likely a pig. A dead one at that.
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1008. StormDrain
3:47 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
969. MAweatherboy1 3:29 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Interesting to note how low topped this convection is... It's producing wind to severe criteria but on radar it doesn't look like much more than a couple bands of showers. Very little hail threat today.

Haven't looked at it close enough to know whether this link applies or will today. Nonetheless, interesting observation you make.

Low topped supercells
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1007. TampaWeatherBuff
3:47 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting LargoFl:
OK all you fishermen..ghot this from the ny daily news..this washed up from the east river in NYC..WHAT IS IT??..it confounds animal experts....................


Very dead, by the looks of it.

Seriously: It looks like some unholy cross between a wild boar and a hyena.
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1006. 7544
3:46 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting reedzone:
This is very rare people..


No, it's not Kansas, it's Brooklyn


coney island ?
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1005. WeatherNerdPR
3:46 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting washingtonian115:
I'm surprised o_0.Especially since their is a developing El nino.Earlier in the season the east pacific was very active leading many to believe it was going to stay that way.Until the Atlantic stole the show.Some of the most recent T.C's over there were sheared messes.

Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:


It was supposed to be very active with El Nino around,but now even the North Atlantic basin is about to surpass that basin in the ACE department.

Atlantic= 63.835
EPAC=68.4775

The developing El Niño has become a Modiki El Niño, as seen on the animation CybrTeddy posted earlier:
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1003. LargoFl
3:45 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
OK all you fishermen..got this from the ny daily news..this washed up from the east river in NYC..WHAT IS IT??..it confounds animal experts....................
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1002. skook
3:45 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting skook:





a source would be great..







Source is here. NOt sure if it's legit, we'll see
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1001. CaribBoy
3:44 PM GMT on September 08, 2012
Quoting Relix:
Now the wave behind 91L does seem to be the real deal for us in the islands.


It might go fishing like the SO MANY OTHERS..
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