Hottest rain on record? Rain falls at 115°F in Needles, California

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:19 PM GMT on August 15, 2012

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A searing heat wave rare even for the Desert Southwest sent temperatures soaring to record levels on Monday, with Needles, California tying its record high for the date of 118°F (47.8°C). The temperature might have gone higher in Needles, but a thunderstorm rolled in at 3:20 pm, and by 3:56 pm PDT, rain began falling at a temperature of 115°F (46.1°C). Most of the rain evaporated, since the humidity was only 11%, and only a trace of precipitation was recorded in the rain gauge. Nevertheless, Monday's rain at 115° in Needles sets a new world record for the hottest rain in world history. I don't think many people were outside to experience to experience the feeling of rain falling at 115°, but if they were, it must have been an uncomfortable, sauna-like experience! Thanks go to Dr. Warren Blier of the NWS Monterey office for pointing out this remarkable event to me.

It is exceedingly rare to get rain when the temperature rises above 100°F, since those kind of temperatures usually require a high pressure system with sinking air that discourages rainfall. Monday's rain in Needles was due to a flow of moisture coming from the south caused by the Southwest U.S. monsoon, a seasonal influx of moisture caused by the difference in temperature between the hot desert and the cooler ocean areas surrounding Mexico to the south. According to weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera, the previous record for hottest rain, which I blogged about in June, was a rain shower at 109°F (43°C) observed in Mecca, Saudi Arabia on June 5, 2012 and in Marrakech, Morocco on July 10, 2010. The 11% humidity that accompanied Monday's rain shower at 115° in Needles was the lowest humidity rain has ever occurred at anywhere on Earth in recorded history, according to Mr. Herrera.


Figure 1. True-color MODIS satellite image of California and Arizona taken at 1:25 pm PDT August 13, 2012. Developing thunderstorms surround Needles, CA, and the line of clouds to the southwest of the city would develop into a thunderstorm that brought rain to the city at 4 pm PDT, at a temperature of 115°F. Image credit: NASA.

A "very rare" heat wave for Phoenix
The heat wave that brought Needles' record hot rain has broken an exceptional number of heat records in Phoenix, Arizona the past two weeks. According to the Phoenix NWS office, the "almost unbearable heat" of the first two weeks of August is a "very rare" event, and August 1 - 14, 2012 was the warmest such 2-week period in city history. The average temperature on August 6 - 13 was 100°F or higher each of the eight days, tying the record for most consecutive days with an average temperature of 100°. The temperature peaked at 116° on August 8, just 6° below Phoenix's all-time record of 122° set on June 26, 1990. The forecast for Phoenix call for a bit of relief--highs are expected to be a relatively modest 105° today, and down near 100° by Friday.


Figure 2. Morning satellite image of 93L over the Central Atlantic.

93L close to tropical depression status
A large tropical wave (Invest 93L) is located in the Central Atlantic about 700 miles east of Bermuda. Satellite loops this morning show a surface circulation has formed, and heavy thunderstorm activity has increased to the point where 93L should be considered a tropical depression, if the heavy thunderstorms can persist through this afternoon. Wind shear is light, and ocean temperatures are warm, near 28°C. The latest Saharan Air Layer Analysis from the University of Wisconsin shows that 93L has moistened its environment considerably, and dry air should no longer be a significant impediment to development. The 8 am EDT run of the SHIPS model predicts that wind shear will remain in the low range through the weekend, and I expect this system will become Tropical Storm Gordon by Friday. The storm will not affect Bermuda, but residents of the Azores Islands should keep an eye on 93L, which could pass through the islands as early as Sunday night. In their 8 am Tropical Weather Outlook, NHC gave 93L an 80% chance of becoming a tropical depression by Friday morning.

Elsewhere in the tropics
In the Gulf of Mexico, a fall-like cold front is expected to stall out early next week, and the GFS model is predicting something could start to spin up near the Texas/Mexico border on Monday. Wind shear is predicted to be low to moderate, and cold fronts stalled out over the Gulf of Mexico often serve as the seed for tropical storms.

Most of the models predict development of a new tropical wave off the coast of Africa 6 - 7 days from now.

Jeff Masters

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1076. sar2401
Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


You know Bill Ayers is a terrorist right?


You also realize that RT is a Russian news site, right? Bad place to get objective news about Iran and Israel.
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My best friend's father was a GrandMaster in chess with over a 2100 rating. While I played often here nationally, and did well, I never beat my best friend or his father in over 1000 games. So don't think I was bragging. :) My winning percentage is well over 90% though and I've beaten dozens with ratings over 1500 and a few masters. Being a Father and chess are all I've got to brag about, so do forgive. :)
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I wouldn't be surprised with the lowering of pressures throughout the Atlantic that we get development in the Caribbean and/or GOM around this time.

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Quoting wxmod:
A lot of sabre rattling out there. A foul wind is blowing. That IS weather, isn't it?

"US/NATO/Israel attack on Iran would be a catastrophe for everyone - Bill Ayers"http://www.rt.com/news/us-nato-attack-iran-milita ry-nuclear-124/


You know Bill Ayers is a terrorist right?
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It'll affect our ability to deal with weather and climate effects, that's for sure wxmod. It would be a disaster if Iran was bombed, so would not acting. There's a chess term for that. Zut something or another. Means no good moves left. Lots of German speakers here. Zutswang or something of that order. I'd agree, that's one big storm coming. Played chess with many masters of the game in my day. Chess at an international level is going on now.
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00z GFS and 12z EURO where identical this run.
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Quoting sar2401:


Y'all realize this sinkhole started on August 3rd, right? And that the sinkhole hasn't expanded since August 10th, right? Don't know why this story has suddenly become big news on WU.

Cause there is nothing else really going on. It is a potential disaster.

What's the swirl beside TD-08??
ULL??



Strike number 5 on China from a typhoon.
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1069. sar2401
Quoting Grothar:


I told everybody two blobs. You all think I just look at them. It is a real science. Here is an excerpt.

Blob maker encapsulates all of the contour extraction process and data, so it can be used inside the image class, or extended and used outside the image class. The general idea is that the blob maker provides the utilites that one would use for blob extraction. Later implementations may include tracking and other features.

extract(img, threshval=127, minsize=10, maxsize=0, threshblocksize=3, threshconstant=5)¶

This method performs a threshold operation on the input image and then extracts and returns the blobs. img - The input image (color or b&w) threshval - The threshold value for the binarize operation. If threshval = -1 adaptive thresholding is used minsize - The minimum blob size in pixels. maxsize - The maximum blob size in pixels. 0=uses the default value. threshblocksize - The adaptive threhold block size. threshconstant - The minimum to subtract off the adaptive threshold

extractFromBinary(binaryImg, colorImg, minsize=5, maxsize=-1, appx_level=3)¶

This method performs blob extraction given a binary source image that is used to get the blob images, and a color source image. binarymg- The binary image with the blobs. colorImg - The color image. minSize - The minimum size of the blobs in pixels. maxSize - The maximum blob size in pixels. * appx_level - The blob approximation level - an integer for the maximum distance between the true edge and the approximation edge - lower numbers yield better approximation.


LOL, Gro. That's the biggest bunch of math mumbo jumbo ever produced. :)
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Interesting Aspectre. And yah Gordon coming at the two AM advisory or in the morning. Think they'll upgrade at two AM. No need to wait, he's here now.
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1067. JLPR2
And the 384hrs picture just for the heck of it.


As I have said before, this is as real as the Oompa loompas.
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1066. wxmod
A lot of sabre rattling out there. A foul wind is blowing. That IS weather, isn't it?

"US/NATO/Israel attack on Iran would be a catastrophe for everyone - Bill Ayers"http://www.rt.com/news/us-nato-attack-iran-milita ry-nuclear-124/
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1065. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
having computer problems here

lets see if this one goes
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1064. sar2401
Quoting llpj04:


maybe it is why the dnr secretary resigned recently from a job he held for 8 years


Y'all realize this sinkhole started on August 3rd, right? And that the sinkhole hasn't expanded since August 10th, right? Don't know why this story has suddenly become big news on WU.
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sar2401 thanks for clearing those percentages up. I was like, wooooo, Louisiana must be larger than I remember.
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Will the 2am Advisory on TD-08 bump it up to TS Gordon?
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1038 Skyepony>: Here it is. It's in radius so double to get diameter.

Well that's assuming that every two butane molecules would first be mixed with 13 oxygen molecules, then ignited. Extremely improbable that even a miniscule fraction of such mixing could occur before a blast was spontaneously ignited.
A far more likely result from a pipe being broken by the sinkhole would be much much much smaller initial explosion of leaked gas, followed by a relatively small fire at the end of the pipe.

The worst case scenario would be that the backblast from the explosion would multiply rupture the still buried pipeline and storage tank, then bury the leakage points in the blast-fractured soil layers above.
In which case, ya might end up with butane leaking all over the place through that fractured soil to create another (though temporary) Doorway to Hell.

Not nice, but also not equivalent to being H-bombed.
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Quoting Tribucanes:
Central US begging for a tropical entity to dump lots of rain inland. Could very well happen this year. Going to be an intriguing week for the Gulf.


So far the main difference between the models seeing anything tropical or moving it anywhere is, the EURO sends a trough/front all the way into the gulf off TX. the GFS doesn't make it off the coast. Seems to be what's keeping the low inland until it races off to the west under a building high.
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1059. JLPR2


Gordon in the making. TD 8 is looking nice.
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1058. sar2401
Quoting llpj04:
And if that was not enough to think about. The mississippi river is way low and they may have to truck the coal & grain. It takes 18 big trucks to haul what 1 barge hauls. This will run our prices up.

Another problem with the mississippi being low is that salt is creeping up it making the drinking water saltier. EPA's secondary maximum contaminant level for chloride is 250 mg/L. The maximum chloride detected in drinking water in the Port Sulphur area was 362 mg/L.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers started work Wednesday on an $8 million underwater levee -- positioned at mile marker 64, just below Belle Chasse -- to stop the salt,(since the salt is at the bottom of the river)
as it did with success during a similar drought 24 years ago. The salt water runs into that levee just as if it was a dry wall.
http://www.fox8live.com/story/19290052/governor-d eclares-state-of-emergency-in-plaquemines-parish


Also, 63% of the nation's hay acreage and about 73% of cattle acreage are in drought areas in Louisiana, as are about 87% of U.S. corn and 85% of soybeans.


Umm...huh? Louisiana has suddenly expanded to include to include 63% of the nation's hay acreage and 73% of the cattle acreage? Louisiana is 38th among the 50 states in hay production. That's 0.22% of the nation's hay production. Cattle acreage isn't even that high. This reporter learns to either do some fact checking or write more clearly.
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1057. llpj04
Quoting Tribucanes:
Ouch just read the full articles on the sinkhole. DNR going to get sued and sued some more. This could be the leading story for awhile if it goes wrong. .


maybe it is why the dnr secretary resigned recently from a job he held for 8 years
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Why your not with the NHC leading the blob division and giving them the science behind it; I'll never know Grothar. :)
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Central US begging for a tropical entity to dump lots of rain inland. Could very well happen this year. Going to be an intriguing week for the Gulf.
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Quoting Tribucanes:
What.........? Another yellow circle from a wave off of Africa coming? Waves coming off further south with less SAL as an inhibitor; so the season roars back to life. You out there anywhere CANTBELIEVEIT? Can you believe it now?

Here we go...
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Quoting Tribucanes:
What.........? Another yellow circle from a wave off of Africa coming? Waves coming off further south with less SAL as an inhibitor; so the season roars back to life. You out there anywhere CANTBELIEVEIT? Can you believe it now?


Have to see what happens in the long run. But this GFS has the Atlantic storm in just about the same place and time the EURO did at 12z.



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1052. Grothar
Quoting Tribucanes:
What.........? Another yellow circle from a wave off of Africa coming? Waves coming off further south with less SAL as an inhibitor; so the season roars back to life. You out there anywhere CANTBELIEVEIT? Can you believe it now?


I told everybody two blobs. You all think I just look at them. It is a real science. Here is an excerpt.

Blob maker encapsulates all of the contour extraction process and data, so it can be used inside the image class, or extended and used outside the image class. The general idea is that the blob maker provides the utilites that one would use for blob extraction. Later implementations may include tracking and other features.

extract(img, threshval=127, minsize=10, maxsize=0, threshblocksize=3, threshconstant=5)¶

This method performs a threshold operation on the input image and then extracts and returns the blobs. img - The input image (color or b&w) threshval - The threshold value for the binarize operation. If threshval = -1 adaptive thresholding is used minsize - The minimum blob size in pixels. maxsize - The maximum blob size in pixels. 0=uses the default value. threshblocksize - The adaptive threhold block size. threshconstant - The minimum to subtract off the adaptive threshold

extractFromBinary(binaryImg, colorImg, minsize=5, maxsize=-1, appx_level=3)¶

This method performs blob extraction given a binary source image that is used to get the blob images, and a color source image. binarymg- The binary image with the blobs. colorImg - The color image. minSize - The minimum size of the blobs in pixels. maxSize - The maximum blob size in pixels. * appx_level - The blob approximation level - an integer for the maximum distance between the true edge and the approximation edge - lower numbers yield better approximation.
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1051. JLPR2
There's Helene and possibly its ticket out over the Central US.

Meanwhile the model shows Joyce emerging a little too north



After this frame I consider everything rubbish, alias ridiculous long range. :P
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1050. llpj04
And if that was not enough to think about. The mississippi river is way low and they may have to truck the coal & grain. It takes 18 big trucks to haul what 1 barge hauls. This will run our prices up.

Another problem with the mississippi being low is that salt is creeping up it making the drinking water saltier. EPA's secondary maximum contaminant level for chloride is 250 mg/L. The maximum chloride detected in drinking water in the Port Sulphur area was 362 mg/L.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers started work Wednesday on an $8 million underwater levee -- positioned at mile marker 64, just below Belle Chasse -- to stop the salt,(since the salt is at the bottom of the river)
as it did with success during a similar drought 24 years ago. The salt water runs into that levee just as if it was a dry wall.
Our governor (2 hours ago) declared plaquemines parish in a state of emergency so that they can manage that salt water better
http://www.fox8live.com/story/19290052/governor-d eclares-state-of-emergency-in-plaquemines-parish


Also, 63% of the nation's hay acreage and about 73% of cattle acreage are in drought areas , as are about 87% of U.S. corn and 85% of soybeans.

Mother Nature is getting a little mean!
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1049. Grothar
Quoting Tribucanes:
Hell Gro, I know where Keep is, he's posted his conditions locally often. Nothing escapes you Grothar, quit playing with us.


:)
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What.........? Another yellow circle from a wave off of Africa coming? Waves coming off further south with less SAL as an inhibitor; so the season roars back to life. You out there anywhere CANTBELIEVEIT? Can you believe it now?
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OMG Skyepony, if that worst case blast occurred thousands if not more could die. Wonder what the population density is around there.
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1046. llpj04
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2012/08/11/er in-dnt-lavandera-louisiana-sinkhole-keeps-growing. cnn
here's a cnn video of what the sinkhole looks like

The article I read said the breech in the salt dome could have been caused by a drilling company, but another one said it could have been caused by the earth shifting because some have felt tremors. I think they are trying to remove the butane but said it would take 2 months to do so.

I live about 68 miles (by road) from this site to the north east and the article said the blast would reach 40 miles radius. Let's just hope the earth does not shift further until they get this under control because all it would take is a lightning strike from our daily afternoon storms.




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Quoting JLPR2:


Thank you! I felt very alone for a second. xD I guess there's not much interest in models tonight.


I'm watching too. I think this is one of the two waves they discussed earlier in the Marine discussion. Of course written before it had model support.

CARIBBEAN SEA AND TROPICAL N ATLC W OF 55W...
WIND SURGE ACROSS WRN THIRD OF BASIN ASSOCIATED WITH TROPICAL
WAVE HAS WEAKENED SLIGHTLY PAST 12 HOURS...WITH WINDS NEAR 20
KT AND SEAS 6-8 FT FROM 14N-18N AND W OF 79W. TYPICAL BROAD ZONE
OF 20 KT WITH SMALL POCKETS TO 25 KT OFFSHORE OF COLOMBIA
PREVAILS IN CENTRAL CARIB. A TROPICAL WAVE IS ON OUR SURFACE
MAPS ACROSS THE ERN CARIB...BUT ANY AEW ENERGY ASSOCIATED WITH
THE FAR S PORTION OF THE FORMER T.D. 7 WOULD BE MINIMAL...AND
SOME OF THE APPARENT SIGNAL IS LIKELY INDUCED INVERTED
TROUGHING. THUS DO NOT EXPECT MUCH EFFECT ON WIND AND SEAS WITH
THIS PARTICULAR WAVE. THESE TWO FEATURE WILL SHIFT W NEXT 48
HOURS AND MAINTAIN MARINE CONDITIONS NEAR STATUS QUO. VERY BROAD
CYCLONIC TURNING SEEN ACROSS CENTRAL ATLC IN LOW CLOUDS...AND I
AM OF THE OPINION THAT THIS MAY BE THE NORTHERN VORT AND
ASSOCIATED LLVL WIND SURGE AND SAL THAT IS PART OF A LARGE AEW
COMPLEX LINGERING FARTHER TO THE E. W AFRICAN SOUNDINGS SUGGEST
TWO PERTURBATIONS LEAVING THE CONTINENT BACK TO BACK. THIS
FEATURE ALSO DEPICTED ON OUR SURFACE MAPS AS A TROPICAL WAVE AND
WILL RACE W AT 10 DEGREES OR MORE NEXT FEW DAYS...REACHING THE
LESSER ANTILLES BY 12Z FRI..
.WITH SIGNAL IN THE MODELS THEN
DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW. REGARDLESS...THIS LLVL WIND SURGE WILL MOVE
INTO THE TROPICAL ATLC WATERS BY TOMORROW AFTERNOON AND THROUGH
THE CARIBBEAN FRI THROUGH SUN. AS LLVL WIND SURGE AND SHALLOW
MOISTURE HITS THE NE CARIB ISLANDS FRI NIGHT AND SAT...BRIEF BUT
STRONG CONVECTION WITH GUSTY WINDS WILL OCCUR. OTHERWISE TYPICAL
TRADES TO AROUND 20 KT ACROSS THE S CENTRAL CARIBBEAN.


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Quoting JLPR2:


Thank you! I felt very alone for a second. xD I guess there's not much interest in models tonight.


Crickets chirping in here, oh well i guess we will see what tomorrow brings, I'm off myself so bid you good night mate
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Hell Gro, I know where Keep is, he's posted his conditions locally often. Nothing escapes you Grothar, quit playing with us.
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Ouch just read the full articles on the sinkhole. DNR going to get sued and sued some more. This could be the leading story for awhile if it goes wrong. Fires out West are no joke either. Drought won't cause big increases in food in the states any time soon. What's been happening overseas and in third world countries is another story all together. Unrest, big time; drought leading to a huge increase in food prices, was very much a big player in the upheaval in the Middle East this year.
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1041. JLPR2
Quoting mcluvincane:
Ummmmmm.... anybody checking out the low rider coming through the mdr? Lowest I've seen the gfs with a potential island threat


Thank you! I felt very alone for a second. xD I guess there's not much interest in models tonight.
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1040. Grothar
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


we had one here couple years ago
sunrise propane
iam in the east end of city
could see the glow in the sky
it was like 2 o'clock in the morning
i though i heard thunder
step out look up
nope thats not thunder
thats something else


You know KEEP, you're going to laugh at me after all this time, but where are you?
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Ummmmmm.... anybody checking out the low rider coming through the mdr? Lowest I've seen the gfs with a potential island threat
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1038. Skyepony (Mod)
Here it is. It's in radius so double to get diameter.

Excluding secondary oil and gas pipeline and refinery explosions, direct effects of such a single bomb blast in Bayou Corne, fifty miles from Baton Rouge, would include Donaldsonville, Louisiana, according to NUKEMAP simulations showing an H-bomb this size would produce:

"Fire-ball radius: (central orange circle): 0.62 km / 0.39 mi. Maximum size of the nuclear fireball; relevance to lived effects depends on height of detonation.

"Air blast radius: 3.8 km / 2.1 mi (red shaded circle) 20 psi overpressure; heavily built concrete buildings are severely damaged or demolished; fatalities approach 100%

"Air blast radius: 8.93 km / 5.55 mi (gray shaded circle) 4.6 psi overpressure; most buildings collapse; injuries universal, fatalities widespread.

"Thermal radiation radius: 15.18 km / 9.43 mi (outer orange shaded circle) Third-degree burns to all exposed skin; starts fires in flammable materials, contributes to firestorm if large enough."

Note: Butane explosion effects would differ from H-bomb effects two ways: 1) It would take much longer and have insignificant radiation damage; 2) Temperatures reached would be lower, so the fireball, thermal radiation, and air blast radii would be smaller, but all three longer-lasting.
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1036. wxmod
"Sea ice in the Arctic is disappearing at a far greater rate than previously expected, according to data from the first purpose-built satellite launched to study the thickness of the Earth's polar caps."http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/aug/11 /arctic-sea-ice-vanishing
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Off the southern UK.
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1034. Grothar
Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


Well, in the sense that Grothar made a reference to "tilted" it is neither truly good or bad. Although it is heavily "tilted" towards bad. ;-)

My post was my vain attempt at humor. Either I was in a SR-71 spy plane, flying at altitude, or my attempt at humor failed miserably. ... I highly suspect the latter.





I'd like to see you flying one of those things.
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1033. Grothar
Quoting Jedkins01:


The NWS in Miami seems to be known for low rain chances in their forecasts unless they really have to raise them, it seems like the forecast is always only 20% to 40% in Miami but they still mange to get a 2 to 4 inch deluge here and there even during these supposed "dry" days. Miami has had over 60 inches for the year now. Maybe the lower rain chances or just there for the chamber of commerce ;) jk of course!


We are on the coast in Broward and it is dry as I have ever seen it. we have had a few heavy rains at once and the rest of the time not a drop.
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1032. JLPR2
-Gordon slipping away from our view heading to Portugal I guess. :\

-Helene spinning in the CATL.

-Isaac developing in the GOM/BOC.

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Thanks so much Skyepony.
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1030. Skyepony (Mod)
Tribun~ The math is at the bottom of one of those articles linked. Looked like ~20miles diameter of a pretty harsh impact.
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Odds are closer to 25K to one. for multiple same named storms hitting the Azores. That's just the math in my head speaking, and that voice never got me A's beyond Algebra.
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WTH did I come to tonight, natural disaster central? :) Saw the sinkhole story yesterday. What would an explosion involving that much butane look like. Would cause a huge explosion with an areal shock wave, I know that much. Anyone done the math on that much butane exploding?
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1027. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
Quoting Grothar:


They aren't funny. Look at just one truck exploding.



we had one here couple years ago
sunrise propane
iam in the east end of city
could see the glow in the sky
it was like 2 o'clock in the morning
i though i heard thunder
step out look up
nope thats not thunder
thats something else
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