Hottest rain on record? Rain falls at 115°F in Needles, California

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:19 PM GMT on August 15, 2012

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A searing heat wave rare even for the Desert Southwest sent temperatures soaring to record levels on Monday, with Needles, California tying its record high for the date of 118°F (47.8°C). The temperature might have gone higher in Needles, but a thunderstorm rolled in at 3:20 pm, and by 3:56 pm PDT, rain began falling at a temperature of 115°F (46.1°C). Most of the rain evaporated, since the humidity was only 11%, and only a trace of precipitation was recorded in the rain gauge. Nevertheless, Monday's rain at 115° in Needles sets a new world record for the hottest rain in world history. I don't think many people were outside to experience to experience the feeling of rain falling at 115°, but if they were, it must have been an uncomfortable, sauna-like experience! Thanks go to Dr. Warren Blier of the NWS Monterey office for pointing out this remarkable event to me.

It is exceedingly rare to get rain when the temperature rises above 100°F, since those kind of temperatures usually require a high pressure system with sinking air that discourages rainfall. Monday's rain in Needles was due to a flow of moisture coming from the south caused by the Southwest U.S. monsoon, a seasonal influx of moisture caused by the difference in temperature between the hot desert and the cooler ocean areas surrounding Mexico to the south. According to weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera, the previous record for hottest rain, which I blogged about in June, was a rain shower at 109°F (43°C) observed in Mecca, Saudi Arabia on June 5, 2012 and in Marrakech, Morocco on July 10, 2010. The 11% humidity that accompanied Monday's rain shower at 115° in Needles was the lowest humidity rain has ever occurred at anywhere on Earth in recorded history, according to Mr. Herrera.


Figure 1. True-color MODIS satellite image of California and Arizona taken at 1:25 pm PDT August 13, 2012. Developing thunderstorms surround Needles, CA, and the line of clouds to the southwest of the city would develop into a thunderstorm that brought rain to the city at 4 pm PDT, at a temperature of 115°F. Image credit: NASA.

A "very rare" heat wave for Phoenix
The heat wave that brought Needles' record hot rain has broken an exceptional number of heat records in Phoenix, Arizona the past two weeks. According to the Phoenix NWS office, the "almost unbearable heat" of the first two weeks of August is a "very rare" event, and August 1 - 14, 2012 was the warmest such 2-week period in city history. The average temperature on August 6 - 13 was 100°F or higher each of the eight days, tying the record for most consecutive days with an average temperature of 100°. The temperature peaked at 116° on August 8, just 6° below Phoenix's all-time record of 122° set on June 26, 1990. The forecast for Phoenix call for a bit of relief--highs are expected to be a relatively modest 105° today, and down near 100° by Friday.


Figure 2. Morning satellite image of 93L over the Central Atlantic.

93L close to tropical depression status
A large tropical wave (Invest 93L) is located in the Central Atlantic about 700 miles east of Bermuda. Satellite loops this morning show a surface circulation has formed, and heavy thunderstorm activity has increased to the point where 93L should be considered a tropical depression, if the heavy thunderstorms can persist through this afternoon. Wind shear is light, and ocean temperatures are warm, near 28°C. The latest Saharan Air Layer Analysis from the University of Wisconsin shows that 93L has moistened its environment considerably, and dry air should no longer be a significant impediment to development. The 8 am EDT run of the SHIPS model predicts that wind shear will remain in the low range through the weekend, and I expect this system will become Tropical Storm Gordon by Friday. The storm will not affect Bermuda, but residents of the Azores Islands should keep an eye on 93L, which could pass through the islands as early as Sunday night. In their 8 am Tropical Weather Outlook, NHC gave 93L an 80% chance of becoming a tropical depression by Friday morning.

Elsewhere in the tropics
In the Gulf of Mexico, a fall-like cold front is expected to stall out early next week, and the GFS model is predicting something could start to spin up near the Texas/Mexico border on Monday. Wind shear is predicted to be low to moderate, and cold fronts stalled out over the Gulf of Mexico often serve as the seed for tropical storms.

Most of the models predict development of a new tropical wave off the coast of Africa 6 - 7 days from now.

Jeff Masters

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This is what I mean, look at how far north sea surface temperatures in the 80s go.

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IK im a little late but hello TD 8...
(hey that rhymed :p)
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Quoting tropicfreak:


Got nothing but a few drops of rain. The possible tornado passed about 30 miles to my south. This is pretty much the only time that I'm glad the storm missed me. It was not a storm to mess around with for sure. Hope your lawn enjoys a double dosage of rain!


That cell that dropped that potential twister is about to move through here, guess I better keep an ear out.
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Interesting that we've had an invest_RENUMBER_al932012_al082012.ren since 7:33pmGMT...
...yet we still do not have an invest_al082012.invest as of 9:00pmGMT
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dran you TD 7 for not makeing a name storm
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Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


Good, about to roll through again, hasn't rained in a bit lawn needs it. How about yourself?


Got nothing but a few drops of rain. The possible tornado passed about 30 miles to my south. This is pretty much the only time that I'm glad the storm missed me. It was not a storm to mess around with for sure. Hope your lawn enjoys a double dosage of rain!
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Hurricane Gordon is fitting.
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Quoting GTcooliebai:
These storms have been trending to develop at a higher latitude in recent years a definite sign of climate change.


As there was a post showing a hurricane circling the Azores in 1926, not really.
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These storms have been trending to develop at a higher latitude in recent years a definite sign of climate change.
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Quoting gordydunnot:
From the Sludge Report breaking news I think: Isla committee to investigate WU founder and his gang of 5 or 6 AGW scientist for asking Obama to use Harrp to create hurricane in Gulf during GOP convention. There are even rumors that 16,000 rounds of ammo will be seeded into the hurricane, just for scientific research. I hope this clears up the NOAA ammo request. We don't know where this info came from but what the hey ,this isn't a news show anyway.J/K


If you are going to mock me at least use proper English.
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Starting to look like its the year of the fish.
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NHC header on TD8: "...NEW TROPICAL DEPRESSION FORMS OVER THE NORTH-CENTRAL ATLANTIC...NO THREAT TO LAND..."
So are the Azores not land?!!
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Disclaimer: The 11% humidity is the lowest humidity which rain was recorded IN A METEOROLOGICAL STATION, at least the ones with metadata.
I cannot swear the record encompasses any square mile of the planet anywhere in time, since weather stations cannot be everywhere. Perhaps few miles away from Needles some rain fell with even lower 10%-9% humidity but there was no instrument to document it.
Nevertheless,I think we are close to the phisical limit.
Some thunderstorm without precipitation have been documented with 7%-8% of humidity with almost no clouds , to generate the very minimum humidity to have those droplets (before the thunderstorm dies) we can think few more points percent ,so that 10%-11% really looks close to the extreme possible limit.

Maximiliano
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Quoting Dragod66:
hmmm this is td 08 according to nhc

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Quoting tropicfreak:
VABeach... looks like you may get nailed... again. How are you holding up?


Good, about to roll through again, hasn't rained in a bit lawn needs it. How about yourself?
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We have a new Tropical Depression :)

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TD8 could be impacting the Azores as a hurricane... mmm. or post-storm
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there we go
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hmmm this is td 08 according to nhc
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VABeach... looks like you may get nailed... again. How are you holding up?
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BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
448 PM EDT WED AUG 15 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON NY HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...
WESTCHESTER COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK...
NORTHEASTERN BERGEN COUNTY IN NORTHEAST NEW JERSEY...
ROCKLAND COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST NEW YORK...

* UNTIL 545 PM EDT...

* AT 445 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING QUARTER SIZE HAIL...AND
DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED NEAR
NANUET...AND MOVING EAST AT 5 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
HAVERSTRAW...NORWOOD...TAPPAN...ORANGEBURG...WHITE PLAINS...UPPER
NYACK...TARRYTOWN...OSSINING...NYACK...NORTH TARRYTOWN...MOUNT
KISCO...HAWTHORNE...HARRISON AND DOBBS FERRY

LAT...LON 4114 7423 4128 7374 4111 7371 4109 7372
4106 7370 4101 7369 4097 7408 4108 7409
TIME...MOT...LOC 2048Z 270DEG 3KT 4111 7399



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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
Did ATCF do a mistake again?

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Quoting Tazmanian:



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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

No. The 18z best track came out before the Renumber, as usual.


Hmm reminds me of when EX-EX-TD7 first got renumbered to a TD ATCF did the same thing
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Mississippi River dries up as drought worsens: how a dying river could help crash the U.S. economy

Posted on August 15, 2012
August 15, 2012 – MIDWEST – The worst drought in more than 50 years is having a devastating impact on the Mississippi River. The Mississippi has become very thin and very narrow, and if it keeps on dropping there is a very real possibility that all river traffic could get shut down. And considering the fact that approximately 60 percent of our grain, 22 percent of our oil and natural gas, and and one-fifth of our coal travel down the Mississippi River, that would be absolutely crippling for our economy. It has been estimated that if all Mississippi River traffic was stopped that it would cost the U.S. economy 300 million dollars a day. So far most of the media coverage of this historic drought has focused on the impact that it is having on farmers and ranchers, but the health of the Mississippi River is also absolutely crucial to the economic success of this nation, and right now the Mississippi is in incredibly bad shape. In some areas the river is already 20 feet below normal and the water is expected to continue to drop. If we have another 12 months of weather ahead of us similar to what we have seen over the last 12 months then the mighty Mississippi is going to be a complete and total disaster zone by this time next year. Most Americans simply do not understand how vitally important the Mississippi River is to all of us. If the Mississippi River continues drying up to the point where commercial travel is no longer possible, it would be an absolutely devastating blow to the U.S. economy. Unfortunately, vast stretches of the Mississippi are already dangerously low. The following is an excerpt from a transcript of a CNN report that aired on August 14th. A lot of barges have been forced to go with greatly reduced loads so that they will sit higher in the river, and other commercial craft have been forced to stop operating completely. For example, the Mississippi has dropped so low at this point that the famous American Queen Steamboat can no longer safely navigate the river. Down south, the Mississippi River has gotten so low that saltwater is actually starting to move upriver. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is fighting hard to keep that contained. Other waterways in the middle part of the country are in even worse shape. For example, a 100 mile stretch of the Platte River has already dried up. Millions of fish are dying as rivers and streams all over the country continue to get shallower and warmer as a result of the ongoing drought. The last time the condition of the Mississippi River was this bad was back in 1988. At that time, a lot of barge traffic was stopped completely and the shipping industry lost approximately a billion dollars. If a similar thing were to happen now, the consequences could potentially be far worse. –ETF Daily

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TD8 on NHC site, peak at a fair 60kts. Would not take much in that case to push it over to hurricane status.
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WTNT43 KNHC 152049
TCDAT3

TROPICAL DEPRESSION EIGHT DISCUSSION NUMBER 1
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL082012
500 PM EDT WED AUG 15 2012

THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN MOVING ACROSS THE EASTERN AND
CENTRAL ATLANTIC OCEAN FOR THE PAST WEEK HAS FINALLY ACQUIRED
ENOUGH PERSISTENT ORGANIZED CONVECTION TO BE CLASSIFIED AS A
TROPICAL DEPRESSION. ALTHOUGH CLOUD TOPS ARE NOT PARTICULARLY
COLD...THE CONVECTION IS DEEP ENOUGH TO MEET THE CRITERIA FOR
DVORAK SATELLITE CLASSIFICATIONS...WHICH ARE T1.5/25 KT FROM TAFB
AND SAB. HOWEVER...CONVECTIVE BANDING HAS IMPROVED SINCE THE 18Z
CLASSIFICATIONS. ALSO...A RECENT UW-CIMSS SATELLITE INTENSITY
ESTIMATE INDICATES THE INTENSITY IS NEAR 30 KT...AND THAT IS THE
INTENSITY USED FOR THIS ADVISORY.

THE INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS 355/16 KT BASED ON A BLEND OF VISIBLE
AND MICROWAVE SATELLITE FIXES OVER THE PAST 12 HOURS. THE NHC MODEL
GUIDANCE IS IN EXCELLENT AGREEMENT ON THE CYCLONE MOVING NORTHWARD
AROUND THE WESTERN PERIPHERY OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE FOR THE NEXT
12 HOURS OR SO. AFTER THAT...A SHARP TURN TOWARD THE NORTHEAST AND
EVENTUALLY TOWARD THE EAST IS EXPECTED AS THE CYCLONE BECOMES
EMBEDDED IN THE DEEP-LAYER MID-LATITUDE WESTERLIES ACROSS THE NORTH
ATLANTIC. BY DAYS 4 AND 5...THE CYCLONE IS FORECAST TO BECOME
CAPTURED BY A SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND LIFT OUT TO THE NORTHEAST
TOWARD THE AZORES ISLANDS. THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST CLOSELY
FOLLOWS THE CONSENSUS MODELS TVCA AND TV15.

THE DEPRESSION HAS A RELATIVELY SMALL CIRCULATION THAT IS SURROUNDED
BY VERY DRY MID-LEVEL AIR. ALTHOUGH THE CYCLONE WILL REMAIN OVER
FAVORABLE SEA-SURFACE TEMPERATURES FOR THE NEXT 2-3 DAYS AND IN A
LOW VERTICAL SHEAR ENVIRONMENT...OCCASIONAL INTRUSIONS OF DRY AIR
ARE EXPECTED TO KEEP THE SYSTEM CONVECTIVELY CHALLENGED THROUGHOUT
THE FORECAST PERIOD. ALTHOUGH NOT EXPLICITLY FORECAST...THE BEST
OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CYCLONE TO ACHIEVE HURRICANE STATUS WOULD BE
BETWEEN 48 AND 72 HOURS PRIOR TO THE ONSET OF STRONG WESTERLY
VERTICAL WIND SHEAR ON DAY 3. THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST IS
BELOW THE MAJORITY OF THE GUIDANCE DUE TO THE POTENTIALLY NEGATIVE
EFFECTS OF THE SURROUNDING DRY ENVIRONMENT...BUT ABOVE THE GFDL
WHICH SHOWS LITTLE STRENGTHENING.

THIS SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN WELL TO THE EAST OF BERMUDA AND...
THEREFORE...SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY DIRECT IMPACT ON THAT ISLAND.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 15/2100Z 29.9N 55.1W 30 KT 35 MPH
12H 16/0600Z 31.6N 55.0W 35 KT 40 MPH
24H 16/1800Z 33.5N 53.4W 40 KT 45 MPH
36H 17/0600Z 34.6N 50.4W 45 KT 50 MPH
48H 17/1800Z 35.0N 46.5W 50 KT 60 MPH
72H 18/1800Z 35.2N 38.3W 60 KT 70 MPH
96H 19/1800Z 36.6N 29.7W 60 KT 70 MPH
120H 20/1800Z 38.8N 23.0W 55 KT 65 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

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FORECASTER STEWART
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Quoting Neapolitan:
No, the real question would be why is space on this blog's forum being taken up with talk about a Fox editorial? The OIG did an audit, then drew up a report. That report contains a dozen and a half recommendations for greater oversight and management. The audited agency has promised to implement all or most of those changes in time. It's standard operating procedure, that's all. FWIW, the Office of the Inspector General does several dozen of these a year; it's one of the ways spending by the federal government is kept in check. It's only because this particular report mentioned the word "climate" that the Fox folks started clutching their pearls in typical mock despair, knowing that in doing so they'd rile up that segment of their viewers who lack critical thinking skills. The thing is, Fox completely failed to get any traction whatsoever with the manufactured climategate and Solyndra "scandals", so now they've come back to the mud pit to try yet again.

Yawn.....


Yeah its all fox news... they totally made up the report. Did you even read the report? Failing to confirm raw data sources? Wasteful spending? Please Nea get that "It's on fox so it can't be true" attitude outta here.
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TROPICAL DEPRESSION EIGHT FORECAST/ADVISORY NUMBER 1
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL082012
2100 UTC WED AUG 15 2012

THERE ARE NO COASTAL WATCHES OR WARNINGS IN EFFECT.

TROPICAL DEPRESSION CENTER LOCATED NEAR 29.9N 55.1W AT 15/2100Z
POSITION ACCURATE WITHIN 20 NM

PRESENT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE NORTH OR 355 DEGREES AT 16 KT

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 1013 MB
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 30 KT WITH GUSTS TO 40 KT.
WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL
MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.

REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 29.9N 55.1W AT 15/2100Z
AT 15/1800Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 29.1N 55.0W

FORECAST VALID 16/0600Z 31.6N 55.0W
MAX WIND 35 KT...GUSTS 45 KT.
34 KT... 30NE 30SE 0SW 0NW.

FORECAST VALID 16/1800Z 33.5N 53.4W
MAX WIND 40 KT...GUSTS 50 KT.
34 KT... 40NE 40SE 0SW 0NW.

FORECAST VALID 17/0600Z 34.6N 50.4W
MAX WIND 45 KT...GUSTS 55 KT.
34 KT... 50NE 60SE 30SW 0NW.

FORECAST VALID 17/1800Z 35.0N 46.5W
MAX WIND 50 KT...GUSTS 60 KT.
50 KT... 0NE 20SE 20SW 0NW.
34 KT... 50NE 70SE 70SW 20NW.

FORECAST VALID 18/1800Z 35.2N 38.3W
MAX WIND 60 KT...GUSTS 75 KT.
50 KT... 20NE 30SE 30SW 0NW.
34 KT... 40NE 80SE 80SW 30NW.

EXTENDED OUTLOOK. NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 175 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 225 NM ON DAY 5...AND FOR INTENSITY NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY

OUTLOOK VALID 19/1800Z 36.6N 29.7W
MAX WIND 60 KT...GUSTS 75 KT.

OUTLOOK VALID 20/1800Z 38.8N 23.0W...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
MAX WIND 55 KT...GUSTS 65 KT.

REQUEST FOR 3 HOURLY SHIP REPORTS WITHIN 300 MILES OF 29.9N 55.1W

NEXT ADVISORY AT 16/0300Z

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FORECASTER STEWART
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SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
446 PM EDT WED AUG 15 2012

VAC079-113-152115-
/O.CON.KLWX.SV.W.0304.000000T0000Z-120815T2115Z/
GREENE VA-MADISON VA-
446 PM EDT WED AUG 15 2012

...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 515 PM EDT
FOR MADISON AND GREENE COUNTIES...

AT 442 PM EDT...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WAS DETECTED NEAR
STANARDSVILLE...OR 20 MILES NORTH OF CHARLOTTESVILLE...AND WAS MOVING
SOUTHEAST AT 20 MPH.

THIS STORM IS CAPABLE OF PRODUCING HAIL UP TO THE SIZE OF QUARTERS
AND DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH.

LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
STANARDSVILLE...
HOOD...
WOLFTOWN...
QUINQUE...

THIS IS A DANGEROUS STORM. IF YOU ARE IN ITS PATH...MOVE INDOORS TO A
STURDY BUILDING AND STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS. WHEN IT IS SAFE TO DO
SO...REPORT SEVERE WEATHER TO LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OR TO THE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.

LAT...LON 3832 7856 3841 7849 3837 7827 3821 7841
TIME...MOT...LOC 2046Z 306DEG 17KT 3832 7849

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GMS
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

No. The 18z best track came out before the Renumber, as usual.



oh ok.. thanks... looking forward to see TD 8 or even TS Gordon
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Quoting Tribucanes:
Thanks Neo sad, pathetic, and all serving to their masters, those Fox, send you off the deep end with their misinformation crew. Thanks so much for clearing that up. Not trying to get political, just following up on what Rita mentioned earlier.

There are members of both sides of the aisle that try to drive our blog to politics every day, that activity needs to be frowned on and ignored as we are almost to the height of the Tropic season.
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Will it happen again that a renumbered invest doesn't get upgraded? It happened with invest 92L that was renumbered to TD7 and then was taken back.
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hye guys. I see that we pretty much have TD8 and offically EX-TD7 is dead.

I think TD8 will become a moderate Cat 1 hurricane out in atlantic.

just to note "EX-EX-TD7" or "DEAD-EX-TD7" seem to be producing some newly developed thunderstorms. I would not mind if they could spread into our area and give us some nice showers. it will be surely welcomed. darn it is feeling hot down here
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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
Did ATCF do a mistake again?

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No. The 18z best track came out before the Renumber, as usual.
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Quoting Bayside:
Yup, gonna be a crappy 75 mile commute home from Richmond today!
whew..just take it easy on the road, maybe these bad storms will ease up some
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Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
Did ATCF do a mistake again?

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no
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Did ATCF do a mistake again?

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Quoting tropicfreak:


It passed about 30 miles to my south. Rough day. Thank god Richmond was spared. Williamsburg may be next in line. Not tornadic anymore.
whew good thing your ok..warnings still coming out
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Quoting LargoFl:
Yup, gonna be a crappy 75 mile commute home from Richmond today!
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......................................HEY Washington..you got a severe one headed towards your area..stay safe ok
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Quoting LargoFl:
..bad weather in Virginia today alright, lots of warnings out


It passed about 30 miles to my south. Rough day. Thank god Richmond was spared. Tidewater may be next in line, again for the second time in 1-2 hours. They cannot catch a break! Not tornadic anymore.
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Thanks Neo sad, pathetic, and all serving to their masters, those Fox, send you off the deep end with their misinformation crew. Thanks so much for clearing that up. Not trying to get political, just following up on what Rita mentioned earlier.
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367 Tropicsweatherpr: 93L has been renumbered!!!
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Unless nominal MaxSusWinds has gone up to 35knots -- ie 93L goes straight to TropicalStormGordon -- the call is marginal. Travel-speed has been 15.6knots which doesn't leave much room* for a TD.7

* A TropicalDepression's MaximumSustainedWinds are 32.4knots at most after accounting for downward rounding to a nominal 30knots.
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