The odds of a hurricane spoiling the Republican National Convention in Tampa

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:48 PM GMT on August 14, 2012

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On September 25, 1848, the Great Gale of 1848, the most violent hurricane in Tampa's history, roared ashore as a Category 3 or 4 hurricane with 115 - 135 mph winds. Major R. D. S. Wade weathered the storm in Fort Brooke, in what is now downtown Tampa. Here is what he wrote this to his commanding officer in Washington D.C.: "The waters rose to an unprecedented height, and the waves swept away the wharves and all the buildings that were near the Bay or river." A 15-foot storm surge was observed at Fort Brooke, and the peninsula where St. Petersburg lies in Pinellas County was inundated "at the waist" and "the bays met," making St. Petersburg an island. After the hurricane, "Tampa was a scene of devastation. Magnificent old oaks were toppled by the hurricane's winds. At Fort Brooke the barracks, horse shed, and other structures were gone. The pine forest north of the garrison was filled with wreckage and debris. The hurricane's powerful surge had shifted sand all along the coast and reshaped many of the keys near Tampa Bay. Navigation routes were filled in and closed, making charts of the area produced before 1848 almost useless after the hurricane. In terms of intensity and destruction, the 1848 storm remains perhaps the greatest in Tampa's history" (Barnes, 1999.)


Figure 1. Pencil sketch of the Captains' Quarters, drawn by one of the officers stationed at Fort Brooke in 1845. Fort Brooke was one of the largest military establishments in the United States at the time. Image Credit: The Tampa Bay History Center.

Fort Brooke today
Fort Brooke is the current site of the Tampa Bay Convention Center, which hosts the Republican National Convention on August 27 - 30 this year. The convention center is in Evacuation Zone A, which is evacuated for Category 1 hurricanes. The Tampa Bay Times Forum and two major convention hotels--the Tampa Marriott Waterside and the Embassy Suites--are in Evacuation Zone B, which is evacuated for Category 2 hurricanes. In a worst-case Category 4 hurricane, the Convention Center could be immersed in 20 feet of water. Clearly, even a Category 1 hurricane would be enough to spoil the convention. So, what are the odds of a mass evacuation order being issued for Tampa Bay during the convention?


Figure 2. Predicted height above ground of the water from a worst-case Category 4 hurricane in the Tampa Bay region, as computed using NOAA's SLOSH storm surge model. The Tampa Bay convention center would go under 20 feet of water, and St. Petersburg would become an island, as occurred during the 1848 hurricane.


Figure 3. Perhaps the most spectacular hurricane image ever captured: view of Hurricane Elena on September 1, 1985, as seen from the Space Shuttle Discovery. At the time, Elena was a Category 3 hurricane with 125 mph winds, located just 80 miles offshore from Tampa Bay, Florida. The hurricane prompted the largest mass evacuation in Tampa Bay history.

Two mass evacuations in Tampa in the past 25 years
Two hurricanes have prompted mass evacuations of more than 300,000 people from the Tampa Bay area over the past 25 years. The first was Hurricane Elena of 1985, a Category 3 hurricane that stalled 80 miles offshore for two days on Labor Day weekend, bringing a 6 - 7 foot storm surge, wind gusts of 80 mph, and torrential rains. On August 13, 2004, another mass evacuation was ordered for Hurricane Charley. Thanks to a late track shift, Charley missed Tampa Bay, and instead hit well to the south in Port Charlotte as a Category 4 storm with 150 mph winds. More limited evacuations of low-lying areas and mobile homes in the 4-county Tampa Bay region were ordered for three other hurricanes in the past fifteen years--Hurricane Georges of 1998, Hurricane Frances of 2004, and Hurricane Jeanne of 2004. Other historical storms which would likely trigger mass evacuations were they occur today include:

The 1921 hurricane. One of only two major hurricanes to hit Tampa, this Category 3 storm brought a storm tide of 10.5 feet.

Hurricane Easy of 1950. The hurricane parked itself over the west coast of Florida, drenching residents with record-breaking rains, and brought a 6.5 ft storm surge to Tampa Bay.


Figure 4. Damage to Bayshore Boulevard after the 1921 Tampa Bay hurricane. The road leads to the Tampa Bay Convention Center from the south.


Figure 5. Track of the Tampa Bay Hurricane of 1921, one of only two major hurricanes ever to hit the city. This Category 3 storm with 115 mph winds brought a storm tide of 10.5 feet to Tampa Bay.


Figure 6. A near miss: just a slight deviation in the path of Hurricane Charley of 2004 would have brought the Category 4 hurricane into Tampa Bay.

Tampa Bay's vulnerability to hurricanes
Tampa Bay doesn't get hit very often by hurricanes. The last time it suffered a direct hit by any hurricane was 1946, when a Category 1 storm came up through the bay. The Tampa Bay Hurricane of October 25, 1921 was a the last major hurricane to make landfall in the Tampa Bay Region. At that time, there were 160,000 residents in the 4-county region, most of whom lived in communities on high ground. Today there are 2.75 million residents in the region, most of whom live along the coast and low-lying areas or in manufactured housing. About 1/3 of the 4-county Tampa Bay region lies within a flood plain. Over 800,000 people live in evacuation zones for a Category 1 hurricane, and 2 million people live in evacuation zones for a Category 5 hurricane, according to the 2010 Statewide Regional Evacuation Study for the Tampa Bay Region. Given that only 46% of the people in the evacuation zones for a Category 1 hurricane evacuated when Category 4 Hurricane Charley threatened the region, the potential for hundreds or thousands of people to die when the next major hurricane hits the region is high. In the long run, I expect a multi-billion dollar sea wall will be built to protect Tampa Bay from storm surges, since sea level rise will make storm surge damages increasingly problematic. A 2007 study by Tufts University titled, Florida and Climate Change, found that a 2.25 foot increase in sea level--which many sea level rise scientists expect will happen by the end of the century--would put 152,000 people in Pinellas County (where St. Petersburg is located) at risk of inundation.

The hurricane forecast for the Republican National Convention
Given that there have been two mass evacuations of Tampa during the past 25 years during the peak three-month period of hurricane season--August, September, and October--history suggests that the odds of a mass evacuation order being given during the 4-day period that the Republican National Convention is in town are probably around 0.2%. Any tropical waves which might develop into hurricanes that could hit Tampa during the convention would have to come off the coast of Africa next week. Looking at the latest 16-day forecast from the GFS, all of the tropical waves coming off of Africa next week are predicted to exit too far north to make the long crossing of the Atlantic and threaten the Gulf Coast. While something could develop in the Gulf of Mexico from the remains of an old cold front, it is rare for such storms to grow strong enough to deserve mass evacuations. So far, early signs point to a hurricane-free Republican National Convention at the end of August.

References
Barnes, J., 1999, Florida’s Hurricane History. The University of North Carolina Press.

Weisberg, R.H, and L. Zheng, 2006, "Hurricane storm surge simulations for Tampa Bay", Estuaries and Coasts Vol 29, No. 6A, pp 899-913.

History of Pasco County: The 1921 Hurricane

The 2010 Statewide Regional Evacuation Study for the Tampa Bay Region

The Tampa Bay Catastrophic Plan for a Category 5 $250 billion hurricane

Jeff Masters

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335. yoboi
BIG Al & Cantore would like the political talk to cease in here....
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Quoting sar2401:


Other than some political infighting, not much. NHC bumped up 93L to 30% from 20% but that's about it. What was the code orange all about?


Code orange is the color of the circle I just looked up NHC it has it at 50% now. THanks for the info.
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Lol. Let's all put on our big surprise faces that this turned into a political battle. Who would have ever thought that would happen with the blog topic?

And please, propaganda goes both ways. If you're trying to take truth from ANY politician, I have some ocean-front property in Nebraska I'd like to sell you.
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Quoting WalkingInTheSun:


Even non-tropical systems can produce flooding in Houston. Some weeks ago, I got 12" - 13" of rain in a 12-hour period!


Oh I know, y'all have some bad floods in your time. Although that kind of rain would flood anybody just about.
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Hey Taz Look here I am sorry for lashing out to you I am really and truly sorry this is the first time I have every lashed out this badly and I am teribly sorry for my lashing out had to be brought out on you or anyone one here I know that there are some kid and teenagers on this blog reading and learing about this field an I find my self being rude and it show a bad reputation on me and other on this blog as well as the blog its self so my apoliges to you and the rest of the blog
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Quoting hurrtracker1994:
Hello, everyone. Currently in the process of moving into school, when I saw code orange on my phone. I don't have all of my resources, can some one explain what happened over the last day.


Other than some political infighting, not much. NHC bumped up 93L to 30% from 20% but that's about it. What was the code orange all about?
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...whew some big storms out there today
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Quoting Jedkins01:
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
FLC057-105-142000-
/O.NEW.KTBW.SV.W.0056.120814T1920Z-120814T2000Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
320 PM EDT TUE AUG 14 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RUSKIN HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...
POLK COUNTY IN CENTRAL FLORIDA...
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL FLORIDA...

* UNTIL 400 PM EDT.

* AT 314 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING QUARTER SIZE HAIL...AND
DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED NEAR
PLANT CITY AIRPORT...OR NEAR PLANT CITY...AND MOVING NORTHEAST AT 5
MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
LAKELAND...LAKELAND LINDER AIRPORT...WINSTON AND LAKELAND
HIGHLANDS.

LAT...LON 2819 8204 2796 8190 2789 8218 2801 8225
TIME...MOT...LOC 1920Z 242DEG 5KT 2799 8216

$$





It has been like this for days, big thunderstorms to my east but nothing here, sadly the NWS says this shall continue for at least the next several days where good chances of thunderstorms exist everywhere except near the coast. Very strange for August as historically the second half of rainy season is much impressive for the west coast of Florida especially August but so far it has been exactly the opposite, this is more like what you see near the beginning of the rainy season.



Only 0.78" of rain for southern Osceola county for August and only 4.48" for July. We are missing out on the rain too.
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Quoting AtHomeInTX:
HPC

FINAL...

MADE ONLY COSMETIC CHANGES TO THE UPDATE PACKAGE FOR THE FINAL
ISSUANCE. THE 12Z/14 GFS AND GEFS MEAN HAVE TRENDED STRONGLY
TOWARD THE EUROPEAN CENTRE GUIDANCE AT THE END OF THE PERIOD...NOW
INDICATING PRIMACY OF THE LONGWAVE TROUGH OVER THE EAST.
COORDINATION WITH THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER RESULTED IN THE
INTRODUCTION OF A SPOT TROPICAL LOW CREEPING UP THE ATLANTIC SIDE
OF THE MEXICAN COAST THROUGH MID PERIOD. EVEN IF NO ORGANIZED
SYSTEM DEVELOPS...THE TROPICAL FEED MAY WELL INTERSECT THE EDGE OF
THE WESTERLIES OVER SOUTHERN TEXAS...ENHANCING RAINFALL THERE.




Even non-tropical systems can produce flooding in Houston. Some weeks ago, I got 12" - 13" of rain in a 12-hour period!
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Quoting LargoFl:
..well thats a good thing as long as it does not develop huh..you folks can use its rains i bet


Yep. Especially those in south TX and MX. I hope it helps them out. :)
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Quoting WalkingInTheSun:


So, when water gets so high, aren't people nervous about gators coming in to grab those walking about in waist-deep water? Just wondering.


The bay would be brackish water, so although it is possible I would personally be more worried about sharks lol...
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Has anyone seen a weather blog around here? I was trying to see when i might actually get some good rain.
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Quoting wunderkidcayman:
wow I can't believe I lash out like that I have never lashed out that badly before what in the world has gotten into me


lol
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Convections has weakened with 93L but it's looking more like a tropical cyclone now:

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be careful,tons of Lightning out there today.......................
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You did say it GeorgiaStormz about a month or so ago. I'll let it go, np, just look it up if you question it. I don't make a habit of lying, not who I am. No hard feelings, just like people to know the truth. Later all.
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wow I can't believe I lash out like that I have never lashed out that badly before what in the world has gotten into me
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Quoting charlottefl:
This is flooding on Bayshore Blvd near downtown Tampa during TS Debby.... I think you can imagine it would be really bad during a hurricane:



So, when water gets so high, aren't people nervous about gators coming in to grab those walking about in waist-deep water? Just wondering.
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Quoting Tribucanes:
GeorgiaStormz your a kid without a political clue in your body. You said sometime ago that the Republicans under Bush never gave a dime to anyone. Don't blog about what you have no clue about please.



i said what?
I try not to blog about politics.
maybe i said something similiar, but you might have the context wrong...
but lets not discuss it
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Quoting AtHomeInTX:
HPC

FINAL...

MADE ONLY COSMETIC CHANGES TO THE UPDATE PACKAGE FOR THE FINAL
ISSUANCE. THE 12Z/14 GFS AND GEFS MEAN HAVE TRENDED STRONGLY
TOWARD THE EUROPEAN CENTRE GUIDANCE AT THE END OF THE PERIOD...NOW
INDICATING PRIMACY OF THE LONGWAVE TROUGH OVER THE EAST.
COORDINATION WITH THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER RESULTED IN THE
INTRODUCTION OF A SPOT TROPICAL LOW CREEPING UP THE ATLANTIC SIDE
OF THE MEXICAN COAST THROUGH MID PERIOD. EVEN IF NO ORGANIZED
SYSTEM DEVELOPS...THE TROPICAL FEED MAY WELL INTERSECT THE EDGE OF
THE WESTERLIES OVER SOUTHERN TEXAS...ENHANCING RAINFALL THERE.


..well thats a good thing as long as it does not develop huh..you folks can use its rains i bet
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Hello, everyone. Currently in the process of moving into school, when I saw code orange on my phone. I don't have all of my resources, can some one explain what happened over the last day.
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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
FLC057-105-142000-
/O.NEW.KTBW.SV.W.0056.120814T1920Z-120814T2000Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
320 PM EDT TUE AUG 14 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RUSKIN HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...
POLK COUNTY IN CENTRAL FLORIDA...
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL FLORIDA...

* UNTIL 400 PM EDT.

* AT 314 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING QUARTER SIZE HAIL...AND
DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED NEAR
PLANT CITY AIRPORT...OR NEAR PLANT CITY...AND MOVING NORTHEAST AT 5
MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
LAKELAND...LAKELAND LINDER AIRPORT...WINSTON AND LAKELAND
HIGHLANDS.

LAT...LON 2819 8204 2796 8190 2789 8218 2801 8225
TIME...MOT...LOC 1920Z 242DEG 5KT 2799 8216

$$





It has been like this for days, big thunderstorms to my east but nothing here, sadly the NWS says this shall continue for at least the next several days where good chances of thunderstorms exist everywhere except near the coast. Very strange for August as historically the second half of rainy season is much impressive for the west coast of Florida especially August but so far it has been exactly the opposite, this is more like what you see near the beginning of the rainy season.
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Quoting Houstonweathergrl:
Question for military folks (or anyone else who might know). I have MRE's leftover from Ike. Are they still usable?

I think its about I'd say 10-20years depending on it environment

Quoting JLPR2:
wunderkidcayman, let it go.

Taz, just stop it! Don't drag on the problem.

There, might as well be just a cent instead of two. :P

yes I have droped it
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HPC

FINAL...

MADE ONLY COSMETIC CHANGES TO THE UPDATE PACKAGE FOR THE FINAL
ISSUANCE. THE 12Z/14 GFS AND GEFS MEAN HAVE TRENDED STRONGLY
TOWARD THE EUROPEAN CENTRE GUIDANCE AT THE END OF THE PERIOD...NOW
INDICATING PRIMACY OF THE LONGWAVE TROUGH OVER THE EAST.
COORDINATION WITH THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER RESULTED IN THE
INTRODUCTION OF A SPOT TROPICAL LOW CREEPING UP THE ATLANTIC SIDE
OF THE MEXICAN COAST THROUGH MID PERIOD. EVEN IF NO ORGANIZED
SYSTEM DEVELOPS...THE TROPICAL FEED MAY WELL INTERSECT THE EDGE OF
THE WESTERLIES OVER SOUTHERN TEXAS...ENHANCING RAINFALL THERE.


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GeorgiaStormz your a kid without a political clue in your body. You said sometime ago that the Republicans under Bush never gave a dime to anyone. Don't blog about what you have no clue about please.
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304. yoboi
Quoting Houstonweathergrl:
Question for military folks (or anyone else who might know). I have MRE's leftover from Ike. Are they still usable?


should be ok....
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Quoting Houstonweathergrl:
Question for military folks (or anyone else who might know). I have MRE's leftover from Ike. Are they still usable?
Yes..
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This is flooding on Bayshore Blvd near downtown Tampa during TS Debby.... I think you can imagine it would be really bad during a hurricane:

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Hmm. Looks as if Ex-TD7 has lost a LOT of steam by now, but there seems to be something very blobularizing in it's wake...between nicaragua & Columbia.

We need to get the WU Blobularization programs running on it ASAP & produce some blob-models, eh?
No, no, no -- not fat Columbian chicks in bikinis on garment industry runways! Besides, I don't think there are any fat bikini models in Columbia, are there?
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Quoting Tazmanian:




your going too get bannd if you keep this up


so if i where you i would this long off for a few hrs or so intell you have really cooled down your still hot under the caller



all so you been reported

no need for that I have really calm down now its ok

Quoting clwstmchasr:


Ok, you win. The right hook knocked me out. Hey, I'm not picking a fight. This was only my 2nd post in 2 years. I've been lurking for all summer. Like I said, I love your passion for weather and I had to say something. Keep an eye to the sky because something is always on the horizon.

Peace:)


ok and I am sorry for lashing out like that

Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


DO YOU WANT TO GET BANNED.?!?!?
REMOVE THE COMMENT AND LET IT GO..


No I do Not want to get banned and I am chilled and I have let go I am peacefull

Quoting Tazmanian:



wow where you find that commet at so i can report it


no need to

Quoting WxGeekVA:
wunderkidcayman... step away from the computer, and go somewhere and do something else for a little bit cause I don't want to see you flip and get banned. Just calm down and come back later.


no need to I have calmed down now I am chilled out now

Quoting MrstormX:
Who cares what somebody said, let it go and lets talk about 93L please.


yes please lets just all forget about it and lets get back to 93L which I think will be stealing the show aiming to be Gordon soon but should become extra tropical soon after I think

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Thanks for the responses !
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297. JLPR2
No west winds, so nothing closed yet.

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Information on MRE's:

http://www.mreinfo.com/us/mre/mre-shelf-life.html
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295. yoboi
Quoting FluffnStuff:
This blog doesn't need a moderator, it needs a referee.


howzit it been going fluff??
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Hello irg,

..itsa habit kinda.

: )

Esp when the BS piles as High as a Mississippi Pine
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293. auburn (Mod)
Quoting Houstonweathergrl:
Question for military folks (or anyone else who might know). I have MRE's leftover from Ike. Are they still usable?


yep..Officially, MREs are designed to have a shelf life of three years when stored at 80 degree F. These times can be lengthened or shortened depending on their storage temperatures. Higher temperatures = shorter MRE lifespans. I've tried many MREs that were 10+ years old and with the exception of a few parts that had darkened in color over time, they still tasted fine.
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Wait there already is a low pressure with the wave? I am so behind! :)

THE TROPICAL WAVE IS FORECAST TO REACH NEAR 88W WED MORNING...
THEN MOVE INLAND THE YUCATAN PENINSULA AND BELIZE WED EVENING.
WEAK LOW PRES OF 1010 MB ON THE WAVE AXIS 15N82W WILL MOVE INLAND
AS WELL WITH THE WAVE. THERE IS UNCERTAINTY AS TO HOW STRONG THE
LOW MAY BECOME...SO WILL KEEP STEADY STATE WITH PRES FOR TONIGHT
AND WED. FUTURE FORECASTS MAY BE SUBJECT TO UPDATES AND/OR
REVISIONS BASED ON THIS POSSIBLE UPCOMING SCENARIO WITH TROPICAL
WAVE.
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Quoting Tribucanes:
Wow, Dr. says 0.2 chance of Republican Convention disaster and the blog takes the political gloves off and starts swinging. Under Bush we gave hundreds of billions to the top five percent while we weren't paying for Iraq or Afghanistan. We lost 5 million jobs during Bush's eight years. We lost two million more under Barack's first two years as he worked hard to right the ship. Seven million in all we lost. We're regained about three million under Obama. The bank bailouts were necessary according to virtually all fiscal experts and most politicians. It was said, at the time, that if the bailout didn't occur the world economically could collapse. Too big to fail as it was called. So now in America, so many have forgotten how we got into this mess in the first place. Propaganda has convinced many non seekers in the Right that Barack is responsible for the current state of things. Nothing could be further from the truth. Under Bush this debt was born. Under him and his house and senate cronies we didn't pay for either war, gave hundreds of billions to the top five percent here, and at the same time lost seven million jobs. Evil, and nothing but. This will be my only political comment today. But if we're going to tell the story lets do it truthfully.



besides the wrong facts in here....i would rather this not be posted AT ALL on this blog
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Quoting jascott1967:


25 year shelf life


5 years, I meant but it depends on temp
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Quoting jascott1967:


25 year shelf life


That's good to know! I've got 2 boxes from Frances and Jeanne.
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#235 Powerful quote Pat!! Good to see you still hanging out.

Nice over wash image Jedkins.
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Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Some of you people need to breathe a little more.

Kai-Tak is hammering the Philippines:



Lol - and my friend over there said they did get flooded a bit from the last one -- usually rather dry where she's at.
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