The odds of a hurricane spoiling the Republican National Convention in Tampa

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:48 PM GMT on August 14, 2012

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On September 25, 1848, the Great Gale of 1848, the most violent hurricane in Tampa's history, roared ashore as a Category 3 or 4 hurricane with 115 - 135 mph winds. Major R. D. S. Wade weathered the storm in Fort Brooke, in what is now downtown Tampa. Here is what he wrote this to his commanding officer in Washington D.C.: "The waters rose to an unprecedented height, and the waves swept away the wharves and all the buildings that were near the Bay or river." A 15-foot storm surge was observed at Fort Brooke, and the peninsula where St. Petersburg lies in Pinellas County was inundated "at the waist" and "the bays met," making St. Petersburg an island. After the hurricane, "Tampa was a scene of devastation. Magnificent old oaks were toppled by the hurricane's winds. At Fort Brooke the barracks, horse shed, and other structures were gone. The pine forest north of the garrison was filled with wreckage and debris. The hurricane's powerful surge had shifted sand all along the coast and reshaped many of the keys near Tampa Bay. Navigation routes were filled in and closed, making charts of the area produced before 1848 almost useless after the hurricane. In terms of intensity and destruction, the 1848 storm remains perhaps the greatest in Tampa's history" (Barnes, 1999.)


Figure 1. Pencil sketch of the Captains' Quarters, drawn by one of the officers stationed at Fort Brooke in 1845. Fort Brooke was one of the largest military establishments in the United States at the time. Image Credit: The Tampa Bay History Center.

Fort Brooke today
Fort Brooke is the current site of the Tampa Bay Convention Center, which hosts the Republican National Convention on August 27 - 30 this year. The convention center is in Evacuation Zone A, which is evacuated for Category 1 hurricanes. The Tampa Bay Times Forum and two major convention hotels--the Tampa Marriott Waterside and the Embassy Suites--are in Evacuation Zone B, which is evacuated for Category 2 hurricanes. In a worst-case Category 4 hurricane, the Convention Center could be immersed in 20 feet of water. Clearly, even a Category 1 hurricane would be enough to spoil the convention. So, what are the odds of a mass evacuation order being issued for Tampa Bay during the convention?


Figure 2. Predicted height above ground of the water from a worst-case Category 4 hurricane in the Tampa Bay region, as computed using NOAA's SLOSH storm surge model. The Tampa Bay convention center would go under 20 feet of water, and St. Petersburg would become an island, as occurred during the 1848 hurricane.


Figure 3. Perhaps the most spectacular hurricane image ever captured: view of Hurricane Elena on September 1, 1985, as seen from the Space Shuttle Discovery. At the time, Elena was a Category 3 hurricane with 125 mph winds, located just 80 miles offshore from Tampa Bay, Florida. The hurricane prompted the largest mass evacuation in Tampa Bay history.

Two mass evacuations in Tampa in the past 25 years
Two hurricanes have prompted mass evacuations of more than 300,000 people from the Tampa Bay area over the past 25 years. The first was Hurricane Elena of 1985, a Category 3 hurricane that stalled 80 miles offshore for two days on Labor Day weekend, bringing a 6 - 7 foot storm surge, wind gusts of 80 mph, and torrential rains. On August 13, 2004, another mass evacuation was ordered for Hurricane Charley. Thanks to a late track shift, Charley missed Tampa Bay, and instead hit well to the south in Port Charlotte as a Category 4 storm with 150 mph winds. More limited evacuations of low-lying areas and mobile homes in the 4-county Tampa Bay region were ordered for three other hurricanes in the past fifteen years--Hurricane Georges of 1998, Hurricane Frances of 2004, and Hurricane Jeanne of 2004. Other historical storms which would likely trigger mass evacuations were they occur today include:

The 1921 hurricane. One of only two major hurricanes to hit Tampa, this Category 3 storm brought a storm tide of 10.5 feet.

Hurricane Easy of 1950. The hurricane parked itself over the west coast of Florida, drenching residents with record-breaking rains, and brought a 6.5 ft storm surge to Tampa Bay.


Figure 4. Damage to Bayshore Boulevard after the 1921 Tampa Bay hurricane. The road leads to the Tampa Bay Convention Center from the south.


Figure 5. Track of the Tampa Bay Hurricane of 1921, one of only two major hurricanes ever to hit the city. This Category 3 storm with 115 mph winds brought a storm tide of 10.5 feet to Tampa Bay.


Figure 6. A near miss: just a slight deviation in the path of Hurricane Charley of 2004 would have brought the Category 4 hurricane into Tampa Bay.

Tampa Bay's vulnerability to hurricanes
Tampa Bay doesn't get hit very often by hurricanes. The last time it suffered a direct hit by any hurricane was 1946, when a Category 1 storm came up through the bay. The Tampa Bay Hurricane of October 25, 1921 was a the last major hurricane to make landfall in the Tampa Bay Region. At that time, there were 160,000 residents in the 4-county region, most of whom lived in communities on high ground. Today there are 2.75 million residents in the region, most of whom live along the coast and low-lying areas or in manufactured housing. About 1/3 of the 4-county Tampa Bay region lies within a flood plain. Over 800,000 people live in evacuation zones for a Category 1 hurricane, and 2 million people live in evacuation zones for a Category 5 hurricane, according to the 2010 Statewide Regional Evacuation Study for the Tampa Bay Region. Given that only 46% of the people in the evacuation zones for a Category 1 hurricane evacuated when Category 4 Hurricane Charley threatened the region, the potential for hundreds or thousands of people to die when the next major hurricane hits the region is high. In the long run, I expect a multi-billion dollar sea wall will be built to protect Tampa Bay from storm surges, since sea level rise will make storm surge damages increasingly problematic. A 2007 study by Tufts University titled, Florida and Climate Change, found that a 2.25 foot increase in sea level--which many sea level rise scientists expect will happen by the end of the century--would put 152,000 people in Pinellas County (where St. Petersburg is located) at risk of inundation.

The hurricane forecast for the Republican National Convention
Given that there have been two mass evacuations of Tampa during the past 25 years during the peak three-month period of hurricane season--August, September, and October--history suggests that the odds of a mass evacuation order being given during the 4-day period that the Republican National Convention is in town are probably around 0.2%. Any tropical waves which might develop into hurricanes that could hit Tampa during the convention would have to come off the coast of Africa next week. Looking at the latest 16-day forecast from the GFS, all of the tropical waves coming off of Africa next week are predicted to exit too far north to make the long crossing of the Atlantic and threaten the Gulf Coast. While something could develop in the Gulf of Mexico from the remains of an old cold front, it is rare for such storms to grow strong enough to deserve mass evacuations. So far, early signs point to a hurricane-free Republican National Convention at the end of August.

References
Barnes, J., 1999, Florida’s Hurricane History. The University of North Carolina Press.

Weisberg, R.H, and L. Zheng, 2006, "Hurricane storm surge simulations for Tampa Bay", Estuaries and Coasts Vol 29, No. 6A, pp 899-913.

History of Pasco County: The 1921 Hurricane

The 2010 Statewide Regional Evacuation Study for the Tampa Bay Region

The Tampa Bay Catastrophic Plan for a Category 5 $250 billion hurricane

Jeff Masters

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434. yoboi
Quoting AtHomeInTX:
Lol. Poor guy/girl? Sometimes it's not easy being a forecaster.

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CORPUS CHRISTI TX
321 PM CDT TUE AUG 14 2012

.LONG TERM (THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY)...EARLY IN THE PERIOD HIGH
PRESSURE REMAINS IN CONTROL WITH HOT TEMPERATURES AND DRY CONDITIONS
CONTINUING. THE RIDGE WEAKENS FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY ALLOWING MOISTURE
TO INCREASE THROUGHOUT THE AREA. 700 MB TEMPS REMAIN PRETTY WARM
THROUGH FRIDAY AND WITH MOISTURE JUST BEGINNING TO STREAM IN THINK
CONVECTION WILL BE LIMITED SO HAVE BACKED OFF A BIT ON POPS IN THE
NORTHEAST ZONES. AT A MINIMUM...SHOULD SEE SEA BREEZE CONVECTION
RETURN FOR SAT/SUN PERIOD. ...AND THAT`S WHERE THINGS START TO GET
INTERESTING. PLENTY OF POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS FOR FORECAST LATE WEEKEND
INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. NOT GOING TO SIDE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AT THIS
POINT...WITH TOO MANY FACTORS THAT COULD CHANGE THINGS.
THE GFS
MODEL HAS BEEN PERFORMING WELL FOR TROPICAL SYSTEMS SO FAR THIS
SEASON...SO CERTAINLY DON/T WANT TO ENTIRELY DISCOUNT IT. BUT THINK
TOO MANY THINGS HAVE TO HAPPEN PERFECTLY TO PUT TOO MUCH FAITH IN IT
AT THIS POINT. THE TROPICAL WAVE IN QUESTION IS THE REMNANT LOW OF
TD SEVEN...AND IS CURRENTLY EAST OF NICARAGUA. WITH A MORE SOUTHERLY
COMPONENT IN THE STEERING FLOW THE WAVE SHOULD MOVE NORTHWEST
SKIMMING HONDURAS/NICARAGUA...AND THEN LIKELY ACROSS THE YUCATAN
INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO. AT THAT POINT...STEERING AND SPEED WILL BE
BIG FACTORS IN DETERMINING WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. GFS IS ASSUMING A
SLOWER MOVEMENT ALLOWING THE WAVE...AND POSSIBLY CLOSED LOW TO GET
CAUGHT UP IN A TROUGH THAT IS PROGRESSING SOUTHWARD...BUT THEN
STRENGTHENS THE LOW ENOUGH TO BREAK OUT OF THE TROUGH AND CONTINUE A
WESTWARD PROGRESSION TOWARD THE TEXAS COAST. THINK THIS ALL LINING
UP PERFECTLY IS A STRETCH AT THIS POINT...BUT AGAIN...THE GFS HAS
BEEN DOING WELL. THE ECMWF ON THE OTHER HAND TAKES THE WAVE THROUGH
THE SOUTHWEST GULF OF MEXICO AND THEN INLAND ACROSS MEXICO MUCH MORE
QUICKLY. IT THEN PUSHES A COLD FRONT ALL THE WAY THROUGH SOUTH
TEXAS...WHICH DOESNT HAPPEN TOO OFTEN THIS TIME OF YEAR. SO BOTH OPTIONS FOR GUIDANCE ARE ON EXTREME ENDS...SO FOR NOW...GOING PRETTY
NEUTRAL.
THINK RAIN CHANCES INCREASE REGARDLESS...AS THE RIDGE
WEAKENS. TEMPS SHOULD ALSO DECREASE A BIT AT LEAST...MAYBE
MORE...WITH MORE CLOUD COVER/RAIN...AND COOLER TEMPS OFF THE
SURFACE. PLENTY OF TIME FOR THINGS TO FALL INTO PLACE AND THIS
FORECAST WILL /HOPEFULLY/ ONLY GET MORE CLEAR AS WE GO.




are they flipping coins??? heads tails...
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
I would like to know how we got on the subject of politics to begin with when Dr. Masters post was strictly tropical weather-related.
tropical...... There was the "Worlds Shortest Blog" that many missed
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Quoting bappit:

I don't click on shortened URL's. We don't know what you are linking to.


It's just a snarky little internet doohicky that performs a google search for "nws bullets"

I've been here six years and I'm not going to risk my reputation and a permanent ban by posting something malicious or even NSFW. Not my style. But it's wise of you to be cautious.
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I would like to know how we got on the subject of politics to begin with when Dr. Masters post was strictly tropical weather-related.
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Quoting hurricanehanna:
Doc M, while I think you brought up an interesting topic in discussing the possibility of a storm interrupting a political convention...I would think twice before doing it again. As usual, the debates and discussions turn ugly in here and feelings are hurt. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and everyone has the right to have their point of view respected. However, this is not a perfect world and most feel the need to "one-up" others when they don't agree... Politics needs to stay out of the weather blog. Just my 2 cents.

Back to watching the GOM
This is just my opinion but if one gets their feelings hurt when arguing over politics, then that is not a topic they should get into an argument about, and just stay out of it. Politics is a heated debate you lose the debate when you start getting all emotional. Just sayin...oh and I don't see anything wrong with Dr. Masters making the connection between the RNC and the potential that exists for a hurricane to hit Tampa Bay around that time, because it is just more than politics it's about the people who come down during that time to go to the convention and participate in other events sponsored by the RNC. If there was a hurricane people would have to know ahead of time whether they need to cancel their plans and even worry about evacuating.
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"Let's Lock the Door and Throw Away the Key" Jay & The Americans
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The only Chardonnay I drink usually comes out a Box in the fridge,into a Krewe of Druid's plastic Mardi Gras cup.

: )
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I'm convinced, aside from the word "sex" not a finer word has been created than "blob".
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Lol. Poor guy/girl? Sometimes it's not easy being a forecaster.

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CORPUS CHRISTI TX
321 PM CDT TUE AUG 14 2012

.LONG TERM (THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY)...EARLY IN THE PERIOD HIGH
PRESSURE REMAINS IN CONTROL WITH HOT TEMPERATURES AND DRY CONDITIONS
CONTINUING. THE RIDGE WEAKENS FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY ALLOWING MOISTURE
TO INCREASE THROUGHOUT THE AREA. 700 MB TEMPS REMAIN PRETTY WARM
THROUGH FRIDAY AND WITH MOISTURE JUST BEGINNING TO STREAM IN THINK
CONVECTION WILL BE LIMITED SO HAVE BACKED OFF A BIT ON POPS IN THE
NORTHEAST ZONES. AT A MINIMUM...SHOULD SEE SEA BREEZE CONVECTION
RETURN FOR SAT/SUN PERIOD. ...AND THAT`S WHERE THINGS START TO GET
INTERESTING. PLENTY OF POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS FOR FORECAST LATE WEEKEND
INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. NOT GOING TO SIDE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AT THIS
POINT...WITH TOO MANY FACTORS THAT COULD CHANGE THINGS.
THE GFS
MODEL HAS BEEN PERFORMING WELL FOR TROPICAL SYSTEMS SO FAR THIS
SEASON...SO CERTAINLY DON/T WANT TO ENTIRELY DISCOUNT IT. BUT THINK
TOO MANY THINGS HAVE TO HAPPEN PERFECTLY TO PUT TOO MUCH FAITH IN IT
AT THIS POINT. THE TROPICAL WAVE IN QUESTION IS THE REMNANT LOW OF
TD SEVEN...AND IS CURRENTLY EAST OF NICARAGUA. WITH A MORE SOUTHERLY
COMPONENT IN THE STEERING FLOW THE WAVE SHOULD MOVE NORTHWEST
SKIMMING HONDURAS/NICARAGUA...AND THEN LIKELY ACROSS THE YUCATAN
INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO. AT THAT POINT...STEERING AND SPEED WILL BE
BIG FACTORS IN DETERMINING WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. GFS IS ASSUMING A
SLOWER MOVEMENT ALLOWING THE WAVE...AND POSSIBLY CLOSED LOW TO GET
CAUGHT UP IN A TROUGH THAT IS PROGRESSING SOUTHWARD...BUT THEN
STRENGTHENS THE LOW ENOUGH TO BREAK OUT OF THE TROUGH AND CONTINUE A
WESTWARD PROGRESSION TOWARD THE TEXAS COAST. THINK THIS ALL LINING
UP PERFECTLY IS A STRETCH AT THIS POINT...BUT AGAIN...THE GFS HAS
BEEN DOING WELL. THE ECMWF ON THE OTHER HAND TAKES THE WAVE THROUGH
THE SOUTHWEST GULF OF MEXICO AND THEN INLAND ACROSS MEXICO MUCH MORE
QUICKLY. IT THEN PUSHES A COLD FRONT ALL THE WAY THROUGH SOUTH
TEXAS...WHICH DOESNT HAPPEN TOO OFTEN THIS TIME OF YEAR. SO BOTH OPTIONS FOR GUIDANCE ARE ON EXTREME ENDS...SO FOR NOW...GOING PRETTY
NEUTRAL.
THINK RAIN CHANCES INCREASE REGARDLESS...AS THE RIDGE
WEAKENS. TEMPS SHOULD ALSO DECREASE A BIT AT LEAST...MAYBE
MORE...WITH MORE CLOUD COVER/RAIN...AND COOLER TEMPS OFF THE
SURFACE. PLENTY OF TIME FOR THINGS TO FALL INTO PLACE AND THIS
FORECAST WILL /HOPEFULLY/ ONLY GET MORE CLEAR AS WE GO.

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Quoting wunderkidcayman:
wow I can't believe I lash out like that I have never lashed out that badly before what in the world has gotten into me


Hey Bro it happens to most or all of us at sometime,I've learned to take a deep breath, just walk away for a few hours , it's actually not good for ones health to lose it like that at times.
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??swest.carib.boiling...looks.like..oct..system
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422. yoboi
Quoting Patrap:
Somewhere in a obscure internet cafe, a Liberal USMC Veteran chuckle's as he sips his Mocha Turbo latte'.


pat obscure cafe in nola is code word for....have fun tell vitter hi....lol
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Kai-Tak is making landfall:

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Patrap, I suspect the aforementioned Marine probably sips his Chardonnay with a slight extended pinkie.The arrogance my,my,my.
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That blob to the E of ex-TD7 looks blobtastic.
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Are any other models on board with something in the gom...
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Quoting MTWX:
Great! A political Blog....

I think I'll just sit back and enjoy the fireworks, unless of course a tornado drops somewhere...

*back to lurking*


Right there with ya! I work in an office divided...2 libs and 3 mods. Debates were errupting daily until the VP said no more talking politics in the office. Now nobody here talks to each other.
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Quoting Patrap:
Somewhere in a obscure internet cafe, a Liberal USMC Veteran chuckle's as he sips his Mocha Turbo latte'.



Lmao, i am a usmc vet but no where near liberal. Camp Lejeune #1 baby
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Quoting MrMixon:


Think it was on the last blog. Did you just want to read the story?

Try this


lol i like the let me google that for you link... I was more interested in hearing the responses (someone on here explained what the bullets are used for very well). I will look on the previous blog
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Oh dear lord, politics. I think I'm going to sit this one out...
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Doc M, while I think you brought up an interesting topic in discussing the possibility of a storm interrupting a political convention...I would think twice before doing it again. As usual, the debates and discussions turn ugly in here and feelings are hurt. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and everyone has the right to have their point of view respected. However, this is not a perfect world and most feel the need to "one-up" others when they don't agree... Politics needs to stay out of the weather blog. Just my 2 cents.

Back to watching the GOM
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Quoting MrMixon:


Think it was on the last blog. Did you just want to read the story?

Try this

I don't click on shortened URL's. We don't know what you are linking to.
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After reading through the blog... I'm going to sit over *here*, while the rest of the blog is *there*. Better viewing. Popcorn anyone?
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Quoting Patrap:
Somewhere in a obscure internet cafe, a Liberal USMC Veteran chuckle's as he sips his Mocha Turbo latte'.
In a little cafe just the other side of the border....
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Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
I bet Dr. Masters is kicking him self in the butt for even mentioning this..... The fastest way to lose friends is to talk about politics.......... STOP IT

The sad thing is that Dr. Masters did not make any sort of political statement--as far as I can tell. The WUBA's took it and ran. On the other hand, I think it was totally predictable.
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Quoting CarolinaHurricanes87:
Does anyone remember the discussion about the NWS purchase of something like 17,000 bullets recently? I am trying to find the posts about it and can't find them... maybe on the previous blog? Thanks in advance if anyone remembers and can lead me to those posts


Think it was on the last blog. Did you just want to read the story?

Try this

:)
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Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


You're*
VAbeach.....Hang around a while longer. You will hear that quote a few more times.
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Somewhere in a obscure internet cafe, a Liberal USMC Veteran chuckle's as he sips his Mocha Turbo latte'.
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Quoting PensacolaDoug:




What a croc. Lock, stock and barrel.


Are you telling ncstorm she didn't see what she saw? lol typical
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Leave Baha alone she working on #12 right now. But once again another fine post by one of the individuals that have been here along time and contribute good weather info.
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Anyone wanting to talk politics, go to the weather chat!!!
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Hey guys!

*scrolls through posts*

I'll be in Weather chat, guys....
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Quoting Houstonweathergrl:

Don't you have a business to attend to?



Yes, I'm attending it now as i own a internet cafe lol l
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Quoting BahaHurican:
Just want to remind all on the blog that politics is a very emotive topic, and when it gets out of hand it can be very divisive. I have strong political views, but I have learned to avoid political discussion at work or church. I have to work with pple regardless of their politics, so I don't let it get in my way. Church is for God, not politics; I keep politics out of it.

The other thing is, if you follow wx, expecially the potentially disastrous tropical cyclones as we do here, politics has to be a real sideline to our conversation. To put it another way, I don't give a flying ... dropsonde which side the different Portlight volunteers and contributors are. When the storm is coming my way, I'm checking on my neighbours on my street and on my cousins round the corner. I really don't care that my neighbours have been on the opposite side of the political divide from me for literally decades. In the final analysis, adversity is the great leveler, and tragedy puts us all on common ground.

A dead Republican is no less dead than a dead Democrat, no matter how much money either had. A political viewpoint is one thing. It is not necessarily the most important thing.

Written by a recovering politics addict...

Very well said haha
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Quoting Patrap:
...your so Bain, you probably think this blog is about you..


You're*
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396. MTWX
Great! A political Blog....

I think I'll just sit back and enjoy the fireworks, unless of course a tornado drops somewhere...

*back to lurking*
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Does anyone remember the discussion about the NWS purchase of something like 17,000 bullets recently? I am trying to find the posts about it and can't find them... maybe on the previous blog? Thanks in advance if anyone remembers and can lead me to those posts
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Quoting PensacolaDoug:




What a croc. Lock, stock and barrel.


Expected outta you.
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393. yoboi
Quoting BahaHurican:
Just want to remind all on the blog that politics is a very emotive topic, and when it gets out of hand it can be very divisive. I have strong political views, but I have learned to avoid political discussion at work or church. I have to work with pple regardless of their politics, so I don't let it get in my way. Church is for God, not politics; I keep politics out of it.

The other thing is, if you follow wx, expecially the potentially disastrous tropical cyclones as we do here, politics has to be a real sideline to our conversation. To put it another way, I don't give a flying ... dropsonde which side the different Portlight volunteers and contributors are. When the storm is coming my way, I'm checking on my neighbours on my street and on my cousins round the corner. I really don't care that my neighbours have been on the opposite side of the political divide from me for literally decades. In the final analysis, adversity is the great leveler, and tragedy puts us all on common ground.

A dead Republican is no less dead than a dead Democrat, no matter how much money either had. A political viewpoint is one thing. It is not necessarily the most important thing.

Written by a recovering politics addict...


i did not know they had a 12 step for political addiction....
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Quoting mcluvincane:

I'm hoping you made a wise decision on your vote. I'm a Democrat voting Republican this year. Obama has taken our party and jumped off a cliff. I'm a small business owner and getting crushed by his policies


I did for this election. I voted against the incumbent sheriff, the department has made some really questionable and dumb decisions this year. But as for the next election i'm studying hard.
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Quoting mcluvincane:

Don't you have a business to attend to?
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Quoting Tribucanes:
WOW comment 277 of mine was taken down..........allrighty then, certainly wasn't the only one off topic and on politics. Was the most factually accurate though, and it get's removed. Truth is a commodity some apparently hate and find threatening. WU taking down that post makes me wonder about about what's going on here. Sad indeed. If it was ten of you truth haters minusing my comment, well I can understand why you wouldn't want anyone knowing that truth. I can understand it well indeed. I'm almost always on topic, just some things out there the masses need to know. So many being fed crap and consuming it as truth. That's dangerous. WU looking for a little consistency out of you. Really. Be back tomorrow, unless they ban me. And if so, their loss. If their looking for trolls and only republicans here, WU may well be on their way. Have a good day all.
The truth hurts!
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...your so Bain, you probably think this blog is about you..
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I bet Dr. Masters is kicking him self in the butt for even mentioning this..... The fastest way to lose friends is to talk about politics.......... STOP IT
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