The odds of a hurricane spoiling the Republican National Convention in Tampa

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:48 PM GMT on August 14, 2012

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On September 25, 1848, the Great Gale of 1848, the most violent hurricane in Tampa's history, roared ashore as a Category 3 or 4 hurricane with 115 - 135 mph winds. Major R. D. S. Wade weathered the storm in Fort Brooke, in what is now downtown Tampa. Here is what he wrote this to his commanding officer in Washington D.C.: "The waters rose to an unprecedented height, and the waves swept away the wharves and all the buildings that were near the Bay or river." A 15-foot storm surge was observed at Fort Brooke, and the peninsula where St. Petersburg lies in Pinellas County was inundated "at the waist" and "the bays met," making St. Petersburg an island. After the hurricane, "Tampa was a scene of devastation. Magnificent old oaks were toppled by the hurricane's winds. At Fort Brooke the barracks, horse shed, and other structures were gone. The pine forest north of the garrison was filled with wreckage and debris. The hurricane's powerful surge had shifted sand all along the coast and reshaped many of the keys near Tampa Bay. Navigation routes were filled in and closed, making charts of the area produced before 1848 almost useless after the hurricane. In terms of intensity and destruction, the 1848 storm remains perhaps the greatest in Tampa's history" (Barnes, 1999.)


Figure 1. Pencil sketch of the Captains' Quarters, drawn by one of the officers stationed at Fort Brooke in 1845. Fort Brooke was one of the largest military establishments in the United States at the time. Image Credit: The Tampa Bay History Center.

Fort Brooke today
Fort Brooke is the current site of the Tampa Bay Convention Center, which hosts the Republican National Convention on August 27 - 30 this year. The convention center is in Evacuation Zone A, which is evacuated for Category 1 hurricanes. The Tampa Bay Times Forum and two major convention hotels--the Tampa Marriott Waterside and the Embassy Suites--are in Evacuation Zone B, which is evacuated for Category 2 hurricanes. In a worst-case Category 4 hurricane, the Convention Center could be immersed in 20 feet of water. Clearly, even a Category 1 hurricane would be enough to spoil the convention. So, what are the odds of a mass evacuation order being issued for Tampa Bay during the convention?


Figure 2. Predicted height above ground of the water from a worst-case Category 4 hurricane in the Tampa Bay region, as computed using NOAA's SLOSH storm surge model. The Tampa Bay convention center would go under 20 feet of water, and St. Petersburg would become an island, as occurred during the 1848 hurricane.


Figure 3. Perhaps the most spectacular hurricane image ever captured: view of Hurricane Elena on September 1, 1985, as seen from the Space Shuttle Discovery. At the time, Elena was a Category 3 hurricane with 125 mph winds, located just 80 miles offshore from Tampa Bay, Florida. The hurricane prompted the largest mass evacuation in Tampa Bay history.

Two mass evacuations in Tampa in the past 25 years
Two hurricanes have prompted mass evacuations of more than 300,000 people from the Tampa Bay area over the past 25 years. The first was Hurricane Elena of 1985, a Category 3 hurricane that stalled 80 miles offshore for two days on Labor Day weekend, bringing a 6 - 7 foot storm surge, wind gusts of 80 mph, and torrential rains. On August 13, 2004, another mass evacuation was ordered for Hurricane Charley. Thanks to a late track shift, Charley missed Tampa Bay, and instead hit well to the south in Port Charlotte as a Category 4 storm with 150 mph winds. More limited evacuations of low-lying areas and mobile homes in the 4-county Tampa Bay region were ordered for three other hurricanes in the past fifteen years--Hurricane Georges of 1998, Hurricane Frances of 2004, and Hurricane Jeanne of 2004. Other historical storms which would likely trigger mass evacuations were they occur today include:

The 1921 hurricane. One of only two major hurricanes to hit Tampa, this Category 3 storm brought a storm tide of 10.5 feet.

Hurricane Easy of 1950. The hurricane parked itself over the west coast of Florida, drenching residents with record-breaking rains, and brought a 6.5 ft storm surge to Tampa Bay.


Figure 4. Damage to Bayshore Boulevard after the 1921 Tampa Bay hurricane. The road leads to the Tampa Bay Convention Center from the south.


Figure 5. Track of the Tampa Bay Hurricane of 1921, one of only two major hurricanes ever to hit the city. This Category 3 storm with 115 mph winds brought a storm tide of 10.5 feet to Tampa Bay.


Figure 6. A near miss: just a slight deviation in the path of Hurricane Charley of 2004 would have brought the Category 4 hurricane into Tampa Bay.

Tampa Bay's vulnerability to hurricanes
Tampa Bay doesn't get hit very often by hurricanes. The last time it suffered a direct hit by any hurricane was 1946, when a Category 1 storm came up through the bay. The Tampa Bay Hurricane of October 25, 1921 was a the last major hurricane to make landfall in the Tampa Bay Region. At that time, there were 160,000 residents in the 4-county region, most of whom lived in communities on high ground. Today there are 2.75 million residents in the region, most of whom live along the coast and low-lying areas or in manufactured housing. About 1/3 of the 4-county Tampa Bay region lies within a flood plain. Over 800,000 people live in evacuation zones for a Category 1 hurricane, and 2 million people live in evacuation zones for a Category 5 hurricane, according to the 2010 Statewide Regional Evacuation Study for the Tampa Bay Region. Given that only 46% of the people in the evacuation zones for a Category 1 hurricane evacuated when Category 4 Hurricane Charley threatened the region, the potential for hundreds or thousands of people to die when the next major hurricane hits the region is high. In the long run, I expect a multi-billion dollar sea wall will be built to protect Tampa Bay from storm surges, since sea level rise will make storm surge damages increasingly problematic. A 2007 study by Tufts University titled, Florida and Climate Change, found that a 2.25 foot increase in sea level--which many sea level rise scientists expect will happen by the end of the century--would put 152,000 people in Pinellas County (where St. Petersburg is located) at risk of inundation.

The hurricane forecast for the Republican National Convention
Given that there have been two mass evacuations of Tampa during the past 25 years during the peak three-month period of hurricane season--August, September, and October--history suggests that the odds of a mass evacuation order being given during the 4-day period that the Republican National Convention is in town are probably around 0.2%. Any tropical waves which might develop into hurricanes that could hit Tampa during the convention would have to come off the coast of Africa next week. Looking at the latest 16-day forecast from the GFS, all of the tropical waves coming off of Africa next week are predicted to exit too far north to make the long crossing of the Atlantic and threaten the Gulf Coast. While something could develop in the Gulf of Mexico from the remains of an old cold front, it is rare for such storms to grow strong enough to deserve mass evacuations. So far, early signs point to a hurricane-free Republican National Convention at the end of August.

References
Barnes, J., 1999, Florida’s Hurricane History. The University of North Carolina Press.

Weisberg, R.H, and L. Zheng, 2006, "Hurricane storm surge simulations for Tampa Bay", Estuaries and Coasts Vol 29, No. 6A, pp 899-913.

History of Pasco County: The 1921 Hurricane

The 2010 Statewide Regional Evacuation Study for the Tampa Bay Region

The Tampa Bay Catastrophic Plan for a Category 5 $250 billion hurricane

Jeff Masters

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Quoting MAweatherboy1:
252 hours- Harmlessly out to sea:



how did you get 252 hours already?
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635. JLPR2
Quoting ncstorm:
180 hours

GFS is getting consistent, three storms in 180hrs.
So Gordon, Helene and Isaac.

Interesting times are a few days away.
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252 hours- Harmlessly out to sea:

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Quoting STXHurricanes2012:
If the gfs is correct this low will be slow moving or meandering around then move slowly north up the mexican coastline. Thru 120 hrs


nice info - thanks!
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It means we get Isaac as a Tropical Storm in the Gulf:

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Quoting xtremeweathertracker:


Can you post a link to this model plz!!!


Link
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180 hours
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Quoting bigwes6844:
u see that huge wave in th emiddle of africa! WOW


strong one
we have to wait till its over water
at the right height
we have to wait to see

next update of image is around 9 pm
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Quoting ncstorm:
168 hours

Hey hey hey...that's not gonna work.

Isaac cannot just be a weak tropical storm that moves into Texas. It needs to be a long tracked Cape Verde storm that recurves.
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Evening everyone. It looks like we need to form a United Nations for this blog so we don't break out in all out war every 30 seconds. It would also be nice if we had a little bit of development, other than 93L, I really don't see much development for the next few days or so. Hopefully some people on the blog can hold out until then and not snap. I am not bashing anyone, but I just started contributing to this blog a couple of weeks ago and it is not exactly what I thought it was going to be. Hopefully that can change. Thanks Dr. Masters for the update btw. Alright back to met school.
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Quoting ncstorm:
174 hours


Can you post a link to this model plz!!!
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Quoting GTcooliebai:
120 hrs. Gordon & Helene, y'all know what that means?


low in boc still there though...hmm whos going to be named who lol
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I don't think this will be a strong enough high to push the system to the US.

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Quoting redwagon:

It would help if it did exactly as Hermine does.

Here, in the 'Hill' country, we have massive rings of calceous (exoskeleton shells 65mya) deposits we call hills but they break up low-running storm cells. In order to get rain we need it high up and extreme, like a strong, persistent TS. Actual hurricanes - even major, like Ike - can't make it here, not even their bands.


Keep thinking that.
I grew up in central TX & went to HS in Austin.
Sure, they fade by the time they get there or veer...usually. Some people in Key West used to think the reef protected them from hurricanes, too.
Lots of things are possible....
Still, yeah, a good strong storm with lots of moisture would help if it hit just right to refill those lakes. If it stalled against a weak cold front, maybe that would do, too.
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
northern hemispheric ir anim image till 605 pm edt



u see that huge wave in th emiddle of africa! WOW
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Quoting CybrTeddy:
Anyways, back to weather - it appears 93L is trying to become a tropical cyclone. Convection is minimal, this is thanks to an intrusion of dry air and the added factor of DMIN causing suppressed convection. 93L punched through almost the entire Saharan Air Layer, so there is no doubt that it is a fighter and has model support. It could very well threaten the Azores, which is rare for a tropical cyclone to do. However, thanks to the bare minimum SST's I do not expect 93L to become anymore than a 50mph Tropical Storm, unlike Hurricane Chris - this developed completely tropical in nature. Last visible shot of 93L.
I'm really curious to see how this does overnight.
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This story is of interest to me because my great great Uncle Charles W. Pierce took the Frenchman, Alfred LeChevalier, this creek was named for on a bird plume/skin hunting foray in the spring and summer 1885. He wrote it up and called it The Cruise of the Bonton. It was published in Tequesta Magazine 1962. The only time the entire magazine was devoted to one story. It is available online Tequesta Magazine. I hope to someday be the third member of my family to be published there.

I thought this “great gale” info might be of interest.

Tequesta Magazine 1969

Who Was the Frenchman of Frenchman's Creek?
By WALTER P. FULLER

[snip]

A Rancho was a peculiar Cuban-Spanish institution that was the great civilizing force of the lower Gulf Coast of Florida and the most dependable way to make a living for perhaps two centuries of Spanish rule of Florida. So strong an institution was the Rancho that it survived the Florida take over by the United States Government from Spain in 1822 and was ended only by the Great Gale of September 23-25, 1848.

[snip]

Let the story now take up again the hurricane of September 23-25, 1848 for that September hurricane of 1848 finished off Hernandez's Rancho. It was the most destructive storm ever to hit the Tampa Bay area. Its climax was on September 25, a Sunday. The storm had swept up the Florida West coast parallel to the coast and a few miles off shore. At exactly a fatal time it veered northeast and at a slow circular wind speed of about 85 miles an hour but an unusual forward speed of about 20 miles an hour came straight up Tampa Bay. It drove a huge water surge with it. It then veered again toward the west to give a full frontal attack on the western prong, Old Tampa Bay. The in surge began about 10 in the morning. By 4 P.M. the after part of the
vicious circle had pushed the water out. In that six hours the water rose 13.5 feet at Tampa and presumably still higher on the West shore of Old Tampa Bay. Tannehill, perhaps the best authority on hurricanes, explains why a surge rises higher on the west side of a constricted water area than on the east shore. The more conservative Jacksonville Army engineers' office sets the water rise that day at 11.9 feet. In any event the water utterly destroyed the Hernandez Rancho. The Indian Mound on the south bank of Frenchman's creek is some 20 feet above sea level. The people of the Rancho, it is presumed, took refuge there. But Antonio had died the month before and had left his widow Dominga in charge.

[snip]

If a person has ever been exposed to the full brunt of a major hurricane his imagination can flare into pretty gaudy pyrotechnics contemplating this situation. (This writer has been exposed to six such.) And, surely, that person will end up with a very deep admiration for Dominga Hernandez. Antonio, the husband, had died on August 15, 1848, only a bit more than a month before the great storm. Furthermore Dominga had given birth the year before to a son. Then charged with principal responsibility for the lives and safety of probably several score of persons she witnessed the fearful and total destruction of property that represented a lifetime of hard and dangerous toil on the part of the pair.


[snip]

But back to the great storm. It spread its destruction along a 60 mile
stretch of the Gulf Coast. It cut Casey's pass at Venice. It swept away Passage Key lying between Anna Maria and Egmont Key at the Southwest mouth of Tampa Bay. It buried Egmont Key under 9 feet of water, and so badly twisted and wracked the new lighthouse, which had been but just finished in May, 1848, that it had to be torn down and rebuilt. It cut Mullet Key to ribbons of land, about as it exists today.[1969] It cut Johns Pass. It destroyed Jim Stevenson's new orange grove on the bluff overlooking Stevenson's creek, which is the line between Clearwater and Dunedin. It sheared off a part of the giant Indian Mound at Philippe Park. It destroyed Fort Brooke at Tampa-it never was rebuilt-and flooded every store on Franklin Street in Tampa. It washed away a large part of the high pine land on Old Tampa Bay where the Fuller farm is now. It drowned tens of thousands of cattle.
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A similar storm today would be a catastrophic killer.
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A Hurricane doesn't have to Strike Tampa during the RNC Convention, or the DNC one as well.

It only has to be strong Cane and threaten the US Coastline to bring about changes at a Convention.

Gustav did that only 4 years ago.


Aug 30, 2008 4:08pm
McCain: Hurricane Gustav May Suspend RNC



ABC News’ Karen Travers reports: In an interview with Fox News’ Chris Wallace that will air Sunday morning, Sen. John McCain indicated that the GOP convention could be suspended because of Hurricane Gustav.
"It wouldn’t be appropriate to have a festive occasion while a near tragedy or a terrible challenge is presented in the form of a natural disaster," McCain told Wallace.
McCain said that he has been in touch with the governors of the Gulf Coast states—where Gustav is expected to make landfall—and that his campaign would continue to monitor the now-Category 4 storm.
"I’m afraid, Chris, that we may have to look at that situation and we’ll try and monitor it. I’ve been talking to Governors Jindal [La.], Barbour [Miss.], Riley [Ala.], Crist [Fla.], I’ve been talking to all of them," McCain told Wallace. "So we’re monitoring it from day to day and I’m saying a few prayers too."
A Republican convention official tells ABC News, however, that at this point, there are no plans to cancel the convention but there are several contingency plans that are being looked at in terms of delegation travel and the program of speakers. Both Crist and Jindal are scheduled to speak at the convention this week, but no decisions have been made yet on their plans to come to Minneapolis-Saint Paul.
This official says the Republican National Convention Committee is "still moving forward with opening the convention on Monday" as planned and notes that there is official business that has to happen at the convention, like the actual nomination of John McCain and the platform ratification.
The RNCC has issued the following statement from 2008 Republican National Convention President and CEO Maria Cino:
"Like all Americans, our prayers are with those who will be affected by Hurricane Gustav. We continue to closely monitor the movement of the storm and are considering necessary contingencies. We are in communication with the Gulf state governors to make sure the convention is taking all the appropriate steps as the hurricane progresses. The safety of our affected delegations is our first priority and preparing for Gustav comes before anything else."
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Quoting STXHurricanes2012:
18z gfs 135hrs



WELL, this is one for the ages! GFS shows how it sees and correctly develops multiple centers of convection!

I was always suspicious of how GFS plucked Debby out of that mass.
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ok now its being silly...silly gfs has the precip on the east side? Doesn't make that much sense.
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Let's see where this goes...

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seeing as we have nothing much to talk about do we have a graphic for pumping the ridge?
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150 hours
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Quoting NEWilmNCTP:
Hey guys and gals, I have a solution, have the Dr. do a write up on a Hurricane hitting Charlotte for the Democrat convention. I was there for Hugo and it shut that city down for a week! Now I am on the coast and come to this blog for weather data. PS Patrap I am a very old female Vietnam Vet who is conservative so do we cancel out each others views or just let them ride.


Thanks for your Service !
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Quoting GTcooliebai:
120 hrs. Gordon & Helene, y'all know what that means?

It means.............
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Quoting Neapolitan:
A blog post discussing the odds of a hurricane hitting Tampa during this month's Republican convention has as much to do with politics as a news story about a church fire has to do with religious doctrine.


Didn't mean Dr's comments -- meant all the political bickering following it here. ;)
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Quoting GTcooliebai:
120 hrs. Gordon & Helene, y'all know what that means?


There are two tropical cyclones in the Atlantic?
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northern hemispheric ir anim image till 605 pm edt



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Quoting GTcooliebai:
120 hrs. Gordon & Helene, y'all know what that means?



A very interesting scenario being portrayed by the GFS..
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Quoting CybrTeddy:
@clwstmchasr. Let's see, judging by the fact he lives in the Cayman islands.. I'd say quite a few. Probably more than most of us.

Listen guys, lay off of wunderkidcayman. I'm sick of seeing him bashed on here. His opinion is no less valid than yours, get off your high horse and learn to respect it. If you really have a problem with him, just ignore him - but he isn't a troll, a wishcaster, or any of the such. He wants to learn and discuss weather and he actually contributes.
Thanks, ted... it's been getting old.

Quoting 954FtLCane:


It soooooo infuriates me every time I remember Bush peering out of the window of air force 1. 'Nough said about that. I can go on and on but I won't.

Not a downcaster here but I am really starting to wonder about this season and predictions coming into it. Needless to say I think it's making the blog bloody batty.

Anything good on the 18z yet. Pre 384 hours preferable please...
Just as a reminder...

Hurricane Andrew
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hurricane Andrew was a destructive tropical cyclone that was, at the time, the costliest hurricane in United States history. The fourth tropical cyclone, first named storm, and first hurricane of the 1992 Atlantic hurricane season, Andrew developed from a tropical wave over the central Atlantic on August 16.
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120 hrs. Gordon & Helene, y'all know what that means?

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AL, 07, 2012081418, , BEST, 0, 141N, 835W, 25, 1009, WV,
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Quoting wunderkidcayman:


hmm interesting

well #1 I am not that young as you think

and 93L well there maybe a chance but right now I'll leave it as it is there

and on EX-TD7 nah so far no tearing just that general movement and trades have drop a whole lot in the area so forward movement is kinda slow and hard to tell

but what you are saying makes sense as well hmm who know at the moment we will have to wait and see




nope no problem I kinda wish I was younger but yet kinda don't lol


Hey, I wish I were younger, too. Lol.
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Quoting wunderkidcayman:

why shouldn't you expect me to know that?!?

Not many people understand the GOM asteroid impact and how it relates to weather today. I mean, I'd like you to understand it, but then I'd be a jerk because I really don't understand how the Appalaichans distribute wx on the E Coast, either.
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ExTD07 circulation and most of it's convection will never reach the Gulf will it? Think something may well form in the Central/Western Gulf but I don't know that exTD07 will have much to do with it.
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Anyways, back to weather - it appears 93L is trying to become a tropical cyclone. Convection is minimal, this is thanks to an intrusion of dry air and the added factor of DMIN causing suppressed convection. 93L punched through almost the entire Saharan Air Layer, so there is no doubt that it is a fighter and has model support. It could very well threaten the Azores, which is rare for a tropical cyclone to do. However, thanks to the bare minimum SST's I do not expect 93L to become anymore than a 50mph Tropical Storm, unlike Hurricane Chris - this developed completely tropical in nature. Last visible shot of 93L.
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Quoting LargoFl:
..we must remember..this is August..and most likely place a hurricane will go once in the gulf..is towards louisianna or texas, not towards florida, and especially not towards Tampa
That's why I said what I did... much more likely to get an east coast FL hit this time of year. Though we did Charley in '04....

Impacts in Tampa from a landfall would likely be "crossover", like we saw with other 04 storms.

Quoting wunderkidcayman:


a lot more than my fingers can count




TA yeah I know that



carefull it could be filled up with couple of barrels of rum




hmm what ever is, is what ever

15 men on a dead man's chest and all that... lol
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XX/93L/INV
MARK
24.88N/52.45W
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Quoting OracleDeAtlantis:
The chances of the RNC getting slammed by a hurricane in Tampa, are about the same as another Republican flying over the heads of the people in New Orleans, stranded on their roof tops.



President George W. Bush looks out a window of Air Force One as he flies over New Orleans, La., surveying the damage caused by Hurricane Katrina, Aug. 31, 2005.






It soooooo infuriates me every time I remember Bush peering out of the window of air force 1. 'Nough said about that. I can go on and on but I won't.

Not a downcaster here but I am really starting to wonder about this season and predictions coming into it. Needless to say I think it's making the blog bloody batty.

Anything good on the 18z yet. Pre 384 hours preferable please...
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@clwstmchasr. Let's see, judging by the fact he lives in the Cayman islands.. I'd say quite a few. Probably more than most of us.

Listen guys, lay off of wunderkidcayman. I'm sick of seeing him bashed on here. His opinion is no less valid than yours, get off your high horse and learn to respect it. If you really have a problem with him, just ignore him - but he isn't a troll, a wishcaster, or any of the such. He wants to learn and discuss weather and he actually contributes.
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18z gfs 135hrs
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Quoting redwagon:

It's called living in what used to be an inland sea in Texas, but I shouldn't expect you to know that, so I do sincerely apologize.

why shouldn't you expect me to know that?!?
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So Far the HPC has me under 3 inches of rain over the next 5 days and that's just the start of the main event. Hopefully it pans out. I know it sounds horrible but we need a big flood out here or these lakes arn't going to fill up. Medina lake is 60 feet below normal and 2-3 inches isn't going to help much. Bring on the rains!
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If the gfs is correct this low will be slow moving or meandering around then move slowly north up the mexican coastline. Thru 120 hrs
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Quoting stormpetrol:


Everything is cool, think I'm going to have a few Coors Light & relax for awhile.


hmm my favorate and my dads too

Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
XX/XX/XX


thats what I call sothing that need to be watched
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Quoting NEWilmNCTP:
Hey guys and gals, I have a solution, have the Dr. do a write up on a Hurricane hitting Charlotte for the Democrat convention. I was there for Hugo and it shut that city down for a week! Now I am on the coast and come to this blog for weather data. PS Patrap I am a very old female Vietnam Vet who is conservative so do we cancel out each others views or just let them ride.
I'd not be averse to that... Hugo was a humdinger! 2 years afterwards u could still see the impacts there...

Course this time of year a coastal strike is a lot more likely than another Hugo track, but anything is possible.

If I was to pick an "unusual" landfall for a major storm this year, it would be a GA storm... there have been a couple of recorded storms that brushed here [NW Bahamas] then ended up near Savannah, and this persistent high with occasional trough seems like it might lend itself to that kind of landfall.

JMO.
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Quoting wunderkidcayman:


a lot more than my fingers can count




TA yeah I know that



carefull it could be filled up with couple of barrels of rum




hmm what ever is, is what ever


It's called living in what used to be an inland sea in Texas, but I shouldn't expect you to know that, so I do sincerely apologize.
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