Tropical Depression Seven forms

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 9:59 PM GMT on August 09, 2012

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Tropical Depression Seven is here. Looking remarkably like the tropical depression that became Tropical Storm Ernesto on August 1, TD 7 has a limited region of heavy thunderstorms, as seen on satellite loops. A large amount of dry air to the west and north is visible on water vapor satellite loops, and this dry air is interfering with TD 7's heavy thunderstorms. Wind shear is a light 5 - 10 knots, which is quite favorable for intensification. Ocean temperatures are 26°C, which is a bit on the cool side, though. Winds at the Middle Atlantic buoy 41041 were 20 mph at 5 pm EDT, and should rise this evening, as the center of TD 7 passes about 50 miles to the south near midnight. The first hurricane hunter mission into TD 7 is scheduled for Saturday morning.


Figure 1. Satellite image of TD 7 as it was forming at 3:17 pm EDT August 9, 2012.

Forecast for TD 7
TD 7 formed about 400 miles east-northeast of where Ernesto became a tropical depression, as seen on our wundermap. Atmospheric and oceanic conditions are currently quite similar to what Ernesto experienced, and I expect TD 7 will struggle with dry air like Ernesto did. The SHIPS model predicts that shear will remain light through Friday then rise to the moderate range on Saturday, when the storm will encounter moderate shear from upper-level westerly winds associated with a trough of low pressure. Since conditions are so similar to what Ernesto experienced, the official NHC forecast of a 45 - 50 mph tropical storm moving through the Lesser Antilles Islands Saturday and Sunday is a reasonable one.

Jeff Masters

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1295. jascott1967
2:20 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting hurrtracker1994:
Good morning everyone. Whats the good word?


What? Haven't you heard? Bird is the word.
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1294. Maineweatherguy20023
2:08 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting Grothar:


something else.


Healthy blob in the Carribean
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1293. Bobbyweather
2:01 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting AussieStorm:

It will stay Ernesto. It will only change names if the L dissipates. Which it hasn't.

What's the difference between low-level circulation and mid-level circulation? The NHC said the low level circ. will dissipate, but the mid level circulation will survive the crossing and regenerate into a TD.
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1292. Msdrown
1:58 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Question for the older experts: 2005 post Katrina there was a retired Meteroligist living in the Bay St. Louis/Waveland MS area who wrote a paper/article on a double eye wall of Katrina. I believe he worked for NOAA or the NAVY office at NASA'S Stennis Space Center. He attributed more then ussual damage because of this. Does anyone remember his name? I want to research his article now, which is one reason I have been lurking WU ever since. I may have printed a copy out but haven't found it yet. He had a web page with this article on it but my laptop crashed since so I don't have that either. Much of what he talked about was over my head so I have gained more knowledge from you guys now and want to revisit it.
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1291. AussieStorm
1:57 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
TD 7 seems to be holding off the dry air okay, it just needs to slow down.




Trade winds are strong. TD-5/Ernesto had the same problem, If TD-5/Ernesto had of been going slower he would become a bigger threat than he did, and a possible GOMcane
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1290. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
1:57 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
1289. AussieStorm
1:55 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting hurricanehunter5753:
go Ernesto/Hector!!!

It will stay Ernesto. It will only change names if the L dissipates. Which it hasn't.
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1288. MAweatherboy1
1:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
TD 7 seems to be holding off the dry air okay, it just needs to slow down.


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1287. AussieStorm
1:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
CV Islands cams







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1286. wunderkidcayman
1:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
if not at the 11am then at the (2pm providing that the watches are issued at that time) or 5pm
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1285. hurricanehunter5753
1:54 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
go Ernesto/Hector!!!
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1284. wunderkidcayman
1:50 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
TS watches would most likely be up for the windward Islands at the 11am advisory
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1283. Pipejazz
1:50 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting Thing342:
Goodbye, Ernesto. Happy trails!

AL, 05, 2012081012, , BEST, 0, 180N, 985W, 20, 1005, PT, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1007, 150, 35, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, ERNESTO, D,

Goodbye, really? Won't the remnants of Earnesto cross Mexico and the Pacific, become a typhoon, cross IndoChina, and then those remnanats cross the Indian Ocean, cross Africa and become 146L? ??? Just kidding all the kiddos in here.
Think Globally, Act Locally. :P
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1282. hydrus
1:49 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting Grothar:


something else.

I can see why the CMC has been latching on to this for so long.
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1281. 7544
1:49 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
blob watch today by andros and the caribiean island stay tuned
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1280. AussieStorm
1:48 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
EPAC....



A LARGE AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER ALONG THE SOUTHERN COAST OF MEXICO
IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BROAD CIRCULATION OF WEAKENING TROPICAL
DEPRESSION ERNESTO. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR THIS
DISTURBANCE TO DEVELOP AS IT MOVES WESTWARD AWAY FROM THE COAST OF
MEXICO. THERE IS A HIGH CHANCE...60 PERCENT...OF TROPICAL CYCLONE
FORMATION DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
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1279. hydrus
1:47 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting Grothar:
Ernesto is really trying hard.

Ernesto will regenerate in the Pacific.
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1278. AussieStorm
1:47 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting 7544:


maybe not they could shift a little further north but we wait and see dont think that track is cut and dry


THE DEPRESSION CONTINUES MOVING QUICKLY WESTWARD OR 270 DEGREES AT
17 KT. THE CYCLONE IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN ON THIS GENERAL HEADING
AND SPEED DURING THE NEXT FEW DAYS AS IT IS STEERED WESTWARD BY A
MID-LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC. BEYOND THREE DAYS THE
RIDGE IS EXPECTED TO WEAKEN WHICH WOULD CAUSE THE CYCLONE TO TURN
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD. THE NHC FORECAST REMAINS ALONG THE SOUTHERN
SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE AND IS IN BEST AGREEMENT WITH THE
GFS MODEL.
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1277. AussieStorm
1:45 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting wunderkidcayman:

further N however

only by a few degrees.still forecast to pass south of Jamaica and the OHC/TCHP hot zone
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1276. 7544
1:44 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting AussieStorm:

Not surprising really


Ernesto pt.2


maybe not they could shift a little further north but we wait and see dont think that track is cut and dry
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1275. AussieStorm
1:44 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting kshipre1:
I assume you are referring to possible Gordon right? If the ukmet does dissipate it then it is thinking like the GFS and Euro as per the NHC.


THE CYCLONE IS FORECAST TO MOVE OVER INCREASING SSTS AND REMAIN IN
A LOW SHEAR ENVIRONMENT DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO. HOWEVER...DRY
AIR NEAR THE CIRCULATION WILL LIKELY ALLOW FOR ONLY MODEST
INTENSIFICATION. THE GLOBAL MODELS INDICATE THAT THE DEPRESSION
WILL ENCOUNTER INCREASING SOUTHERLY TO SOUTHWESTERLY UPPER-LEVEL
WINDS AS IT NEARS THE WINDWARD ISLANDS. THIS INCREASING SHEAR WILL
LIKELY HALT ANY INTENSIFICATION. THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST
IS SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY AND IS CLOSEST TO THE SHIPS
GUIDANCE. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF WEAKEN
THE SYSTEM AND SHOW IT BECOMING AN OPEN WAVE IN THE EASTERN
CARIBBEAN.
FOR NOW...THE NHC FORECAST DOES NOT INDICATE
WEAKENING...BUT THAT IS ONE POSSIBILITY GIVEN THAT THE SYSTEM IS
SMALL...MAKING IT MORE PRONE TO THE EXPECTED INCREASE IN SHEAR
IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.
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1274. hydrus
1:44 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Advisories may be initiated later. If this happens, tropical cyclone watches and warnings will be required for the Cape Verde Islands.

Pretty uncommon.

They better do it soon.
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1273. wunderkidcayman
1:44 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting AussieStorm:

Not surprising really


Ernesto pt.2

further N however
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1272. AussieStorm
1:41 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Don't get ahead of yourself...


The NHC.

Not surprising really


Ernesto pt.2
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1271. gordydunnot
1:40 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
My bad Grothar, just remembering old times myself, not to much difference in our ages I suppose. Born in Coral Gables myself.
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1270. VR46L
1:40 PM GMT on August 10, 2012


Best Track Position and Intensity as of:
Friday, August 10, 2012 12:00 Z

Location at the time:
208 statue miles (336 km) to the ENE (69°) from Praia, Cape Verde.

Wind (1 min. avg.):
30 knots (~35 mph | 15 m/s | 56 km/h)

Pressure:
1004 mb (29.65 inHg | 1004 hPa)

Coordinates:
16.0N 20.6W

Source:
National Hurricane Center's (NHC) Automated Tropical Cyclone Forecasting (ATCF) System and not from any available advisory data




Best Track Position and Intensity as of:
Friday, August 10, 2012 12:00 Z

Location at the time:
742 statue miles (1194 km) to the E (87°) from Bridgetown, Barbados.

Wind (1 min. avg.):
30 knots (~35 mph | 15 m/s | 56 km/h)

Pressure:
1009 mb (29.80 inHg | 1009 hPa)

Coordinates:
13.6N 48.6W

Source:
National Hurricane Center's (NHC) Automated Tropical Cyclone Forecasting (ATCF) System and not from any available advisory data
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1269. kshipre1
1:39 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
seems to be about we were thinking. In respect to TD7, if that large trough is supposed to develop over the eastern US, I guess it will be too low in latitude to get pulled north by the trough.
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1268. TropicalAnalystwx13
1:39 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Advisories may be initiated later. If this happens, tropical cyclone watches and warnings will be required for the Cape Verde Islands.

Pretty uncommon.

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1267. hurrtracker1994
1:37 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Good morning everyone. Whats the good word?
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1266. kshipre1
1:34 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
I assume you are referring to possible Gordon right? If the ukmet does dissipate it then it is thinking like the GFS and Euro as per the NHC.
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1265. TropicalAnalystwx13
1:34 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting Relix:
I am not even sure TD7 will make it to the islands at this point o.0

Don't get ahead of yourself...

Quoting AussieStorm:

Who is saying that??

The NHC.
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1264. ncstorm
1:34 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
from Allan Huffman

TD 7 Likely To Be Gordon

Invest93

The next system is a tropical wave currently passing through the Cape Verde Islands. This system has a ball of thunderstorms associated with it, but it has moved off rather far to the north around 17N. Most waves in this position unless they move WSW, traditionally have little chance of affecting land. This system could strengthen into a depression or storm in the next several days, most of the global models show this as well as the tropical models. But a WNW track looks likely and all the global data suggests a large trough over the eastern US next week would move into the western Atlantic and re-curve this system. I will watch it though.
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1263. AussieStorm
1:32 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting 7544:
their sayin td7 will be ts gorden sometime today ?

Who is saying that??
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1262. 7544
1:28 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
their sayin td7 will be ts gorden sometime today ?
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1261. ncstorm
1:28 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
this is the 00z UKMET..but it dissapates it

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1260. luvtogolf
1:22 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting MarcoIslandCat5:
Morning all, Just arrived on marco island for a months holiday! (vacation) :) What are the chances of south Florida getting a piece of td7? We're about due a storm here. Back to lurking ;) TIA


It's over 2,000 miles away. Way too early to speculate. Check back every once in a while. IMO, TD7 doesn't make it. It is a small system with a lot of obstacles in front of it. If it does survive and reaches the western Caribbean then it may have a chance with better conditions. Much like Ernesto.
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1259. Tazmanian
1:21 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting yoboi:
taz where is all the storms going???




look at the mode runs
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1258. pcola57
1:21 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting AussieStorm:
Doppler Wind

Click for loop.


Nice looping pic.Aussie..
By the way I always thought you Austrailans have the coolest names for cities.. :)
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1257. wunderkidcayman
1:19 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting aspectre:
Derived from (NHC) ATCF data for TropicalDepressionSeven for 10August12pmGMT:
MinimumPressure increased from 1008millibars to1009millibars
MaxSusWinds held at 30knots(35mph)56km/h
Vector changed from 266.8°West@19.1mph(30.7km/h) to 273.6°West@19.1mph(30.7km/h)

POS-Trinidad :: href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenada>Grena da :: BGI-Barbados :: SLU-St.Lucia

The easternmost dot on the kinked line is where 92L became a LOw again
The westernmost dot on the kinked line is where 92L became AL07
The next dot to the right is where AL07 became TD.7
The easternmost dot on the longest line is TD.7's most recent position

The longest line is a straightline projection through TD.7's 2 most recent positions to its closest approach (within 18miles or 29 kilometres) to a coastline
9August12pmGMT: AL07 had been headed for passage over SangreGrande (rightPOSdumbbell)
9August6pmGMT: TD.7 had been headed for passage over GrantleyAdamsInternational (bottomBGIblob)
10August12amGMT: TD.7 had been headed for passage over Bathsheba (topBGIblob)
10August6amGMT: TD.7 had been headed for passage over HighCliffPoint in ~2days5hours from now (when this comment was posted)
10August12pmGMT: TD.7 was heading for passage over CapeMarquis in ~1day20hours from now (when this comment was posted)

Copy&paste pos-10.595n61.023w, bgi-13.09n59.457w-13.198n59.488w, gnd-12.191n61.602w, slu, 12.1n31.2w- 12.7n32.5w- 13.3n33.9w- 13.9n35.4w- 14.1n37.0w- 14.1n38.5w- 13.9n40.0w- 13.7n41.7w, 13.7n41.7w-13.7n42.9w, 13.7n42.9w-13.7n44.6w, 13.7n44.6w-13.6n46.3w, 13.6n46.3w-13.7n48.0w, 13.6n46.3w-14.06n60.892w into the GreatCircleMapper for a larger-scale map and other information
The previous mapping for comparison

sorry dude but you are going to need to do some recalculations

AL, 07, 2012081012, , BEST, 0, 136N, 486W, 30, 1009, TD,
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1256. yoboi
1:18 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
taz where is all the storms going???
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1255. yonzabam
1:17 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting weathermanwannabe:
Cyclogenisis is actually rare and conditions have to be perfect at the same time for any particular storm to reach its full (hurricane) potential. From Mariners Guide to Tropical Cyclones:

1. A pre-existing surface disturbance with thunderstorms.

2. Relatively moist atmospheric layers in the middle troposphere, approximately 10,000-20,000 ft above the earth%u2019s surface.

3. Warm (at least 79F or 26C) ocean temperatures with a mixed layer depth of about 200 feet.

4. Light winds aloft that do not change much in direction and speed throughout the depth of the
atmosphere (low vertical wind shear). In other words, the ideal tropical cyclone will have its
cyclonic circulation in the middle & upper levels of the atmosphere located directly above the
cyclonic circulation of the surface & low levels of the atmosphere.


5. Must be poleward of about 5 degrees north latitude in order to meet minimum threshold values
for the Coriolis Force.

6. Upper-level outflow over a system serves to remove mass from the top of the vertical column
in a tropical cyclone.

In a complex relationship, these six factors are interdependent. The absence or change in one of the
ingredients often results in a change or loss in one or more of the other factors.


During an idealized case of tropical cyclogenesis, the following events would occur on the order of
days with different factors occurring simultaneously or near-simultaneously throughout the developing phase of a tropical cyclone.



No mention of 'vertical instability'. Sinking air was proposed as a reason why many storms failed to develop as expected in 2011. It's there agein, this year, probably as a result of the drought.
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1254. wunderkidcayman
1:17 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting Neapolitan:
Updated coordinates on TD07:

AL, 07, 2012081012, , BEST, 0, 136N, 486W, 30, 1009, TD, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 100, 15, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, SEVEN, M,

ok that make more sense
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1253. CaneHunter031472
1:16 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting jascott1967:


NOGAPS did well with Ernesto.


NOGAPS did well with genesis of Ernensto and GFS was pretty accurate once it was formed, but failed to form it correctly in the beginning. So I guess we could try rely on those two for reference only of course.
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1252. AussieStorm
1:16 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Doppler Wind

Click for loop.
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1251. aspectre
1:15 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Derived from (NHC) ATCF data for TropicalDepressionSeven for 10August12pmGMT:
MinimumPressure increased from 1008millibars to1009millibars
MaxSusWinds held at 30knots(35mph)56km/h
Vector changed from 266.8*West@19.1mph(30.7km/h) to 270.3*West@25.8mph(41.5km/h)

POS-Trinidad :: GND-Grenada :: BGI-Barbados :: SLU-St.Lucia

The easternmost dot on the kinked line is where 92L became a LOw again
The westernmost dot on the kinked line is where 92L became AL07
The next dot to the right is where AL07 became TD.7
The easternmost dot on the longest line is TD.7's most recent position

The longest line is a straightline projection through TD.7's 2 most recent positions to its closest approach (within 18miles or 29 kilometres) to a coastline
9August12pmGMT: AL07 had been headed for passage over SangreGrande (rightPOSdumbbell)
9August6pmGMT: TD.7 had been headed for passage over GrantleyAdamsInternationalAirport (bottomBGIblob)
10August12amGMT: TD.7 had been headed for passage over Bathsheba (middleBGIblob)
10August6amGMT: TD.7 had been headed for passage over HighCliffPoint (topGNDdumbbell)
10August12pmGMT: TD.7 was heading for passage over LittleBay in ~1day3hours from now (when this comment was posted)

Copy&paste pos-10.595n61.023w, bgi-13.09n59.457w-13.198n59.488w, gnd-12.191n61.602w, slu, 12.1n31.2w- 12.7n32.5w- 13.3n33.9w- 13.9n35.4w- 14.1n37.0w- 14.1n38.5w- 13.9n40.0w- 13.7n41.7w, 13.7n41.7w-13.7n42.9w, 13.7n42.9w-13.7n44.6w, 13.7n44.6w-13.6n46.3w, 13.6n46.3w-13.6n48.6w, 13.6n46.3w-13.31n59.579w into the GreatCircleMapper for a larger-scale map and other information
The previous mapping for comparison
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1250. jascott1967
1:14 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting ncstorm:
Nogaps with TD 7


NOGAPS did well with Ernesto.
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1249. Tazmanian
1:14 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
AL, 93, 2012081012, , BEST, 0, 160N, 206W, 30, 1004, DB
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1248. AussieStorm
1:13 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting MTWX:


How's winter been treating you guys down there Aussie??


We are under 2 warnings right now.

Severe Weather Warning for damaging surf

Severe Weather Warning for damaging winds

These strong winds have caused havoc around Sydney and surrounding areas.

Here is Fire and Rescue NSW news page on this severe weather
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1247. pcola57
1:12 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Quoting MarcoIslandCat5:
Morning all, Just arrived on marco island for a months holiday! (vacation) :) What are the chances of south Florida getting a piece of td7? We're about due a storm here. Back to lurking ;) TIA


Too early for me to say..
I'd give 48hrs. and then we should have a better idea..not perfection though.. :)
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1246. Neapolitan
1:12 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
Updated coordinates on TD07:

AL, 07, 2012081012, , BEST, 0, 136N, 486W, 30, 1009, TD, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1012, 100, 15, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, SEVEN, M,
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1245. Relix
1:11 PM GMT on August 10, 2012
I am not even sure TD7 will make it to the islands at this point o.0
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