Ernesto disorganized; more fires, extreme heat for Oklahoma

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:25 PM GMT on August 05, 2012

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A disorganized Tropical Storm Ernesto continues to speed westward at 23 mph across the Caribbean. Ernesto has brought sporadic heavy rains to Jamaica today, and Kingston has picked up 0.51" of rain as of noon, and recorded top sustained winds of 22 mph. Ernesto looks very unhealthy on visible satellite loops, with its low-level circulation center a naked swirl exposed to view with almost no heavy thunderstorm activity near the center. However, the storm does have some rather far-flung spiral bands, and these bands are bringing occasional heavy downpours to Haiti, western Cuba, Jamaica, and the southwest Dominican Republic. This morning's flight by the Hurricane Hunters found that Ernesto had a very high central pressure of 1006 mb and top winds near 50 mph. The latest wind shear analysis from the SHIPS model shows moderate shear of 10 - 15 knots affecting the storm, but there must be some wind shear the satellites are not able to detect affecting Ernesto, given its disorganized appearance. Water vapor satellite loops show a large area of dry air to the west, and this dry air is also interfering with Ernesto's organization.


Figure 1. Visible satellite image with 375 meter resolution taken of Ernesto by the new Suomi NPP satellite at 1:39 pm EDT August 4, 2012. At the time, Ernesto had a flare-up of intense thunderstorms, and had top winds of 60 mph. Image credit: University of Wisconsin Madison CIMSS.

Forecast for Ernesto
Ernesto's rapid forward speed of 23 mph has been part of the reason for its lack of intensification, but the storm is expected to slow down Monday and Tuesday in response to a trough of low pressure passing to the north. This slowing, in combination with low wind shear, a moister environment, and increasing heat energy in the ocean, may allow Ernesto to strengthen some before making landfall in Belize or Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula on Tuesday night. However, the storm will be passing very close to the north coast of Honduras, putting a portion of its circulation over land and limiting intensification potential. It is unlikely Ernesto will become a hurricane in the Caribbean; NHC is giving just a 19% chance that this will occur. The main threat from Ernesto will be heavy rains over Honduras, Belize, Mexico, and Jamaica. The track forecast for Ernesto has become a bit easier, since the storm's current disorganization and more southerly path make will make it more difficult for the storm to make a northwesterly turn into the Gulf of Mexico like the UKMET and GFDL models are predicting. A stronger Ernesto would have been more likely to turn northwest under the influence of a trough of low pressure passing to the north. If Ernesto survives its crossing of the Yucatan Peninsula, the potential exists for it to re-strengthen over the Bay of Campeche, and make a second landfall on Mexico's coast on Friday, between Tampico and Veracruz. It's pretty unlikely that Ernesto will hit the U.S.-- though Brownsville, Texas could see some rain from Ernesto's outer spiral bands on Friday, if the storm survives that long.


Figure 2. Morning satellite image of Ernesto, showing the exposed low-level center--a swirl due south of Jamaica--and only very limited heavy thunderstorm activity surrounding the center.

Tropical Storm Florence
Tropical Storm Florence continues to plow westward at 14 mph over the Eastern Atlantic, and is not a threat to any land areas for next five days. The SHIPS model is predicting a moderate 5 - 15 knots of wind shear for Florence Sunday and Monday, but the shear will increase to the high range as Florence encounters an upper-level trough of low pressure on Tuesday. The latest Saharan Air Layer Analysis shows that a large area of dry air lies to the north and west of Florence, and this dry air will likely cause problems for the storm. Ocean temperature are near 26 - 26.5°C, which is right at the threshold for where a tropical storm can typically exist. It is possible that Florence could pose a threat to Bermuda next weekend, if the storm survives that long. Both the GFS and ECMWF models dissipate Florence before then.

Historic heat wave in Oklahoma
A second day of destructive fires affected Oklahoma on Saturday, thanks to extreme heat and drought, low humidities, and strong winds in advance of an approaching cold front. At 3 pm CDT Saturday, Oklahoma City had a temperature of 107°, a humidity of 19%, and winds of 16 mph gusting to 22 mph. The Oklahoma fires have destroyed at least 125 homes. The high temperature in Oklahoma City on Saturday reached 109°, the 12th warmest temperature recorded in the city since records began in 1891. Friday's high of 113° tied for the warmest temperature in city history.


Figure 3. Highway 48 is covered in smoke as flames continue, Saturday, Aug 4, 2012, east of Drumright, OK. Image credit: Associated Press.

The only comparable Oklahoma heat wave: August 1936
The only heat wave in Oklahoma history that compares to the August 2012 heat wave occurred during the great Dust Bowl summer of 1936, the hottest summer in U.S. history. Oklahoma City experienced three days at 110° that summer, and a record streak of 22 straight days with a temperature of 100° or hotter. Those numbers are comparable to 2012's: three days at 110° or hotter, and a string of 18 consecutive days (so far) with temperatures of 100° or hotter. The weak cold front that passed though Oklahoma Saturday will bring temperatures about 10° cooler over the next few days, but high temperatures are still expected to approach 100° in Oklahoma City Sunday through Tuesday. It's worth noting that Oklahoma City has experienced only 11 days since 1890 with a high of 110° or greater. Three of those days were in 2011, three in 2012, and three in the great Dust Bowl summer of 1936.

Wunderground's weather historian Christopher C. Burt has a new post on July's heat extremes in the U.S.


Figure 4. Most of Oklahoma has experienced nine consecutive days with highs of 100° or more, and many regions, including Oklahoma City, have had a streak of eighteen such days. Image credit: Oklahoma Mesonet.

Severe thunderstorm complex forces evacuation of Lollapalooza
A organized complex of severe thunderstorms developed over Eastern Iowa and Northern Illinois late Saturday afternoon, forming a dangerous bow echo that swept through Chicago, forcing the evacuation of the Lollapalooza music festival. NOAA's Storm Prediction Center (SPC) logged over 150 reports of wind damage from the storm, with five of the thunderstorms containing winds in excess of hurricane force (74 mph.) And just yesterday, my daughter was bemoaning her misfortune at not being able to get tickets to the show! The thunderstorm complex traveled about 300 miles from Eastern Iowa to Ohio, generating winds gust in excess of 58 mph along most of its path, meeting the definition of a derecho.


Figure 5. Radar image of the severe thunderstorm complex that spawned a dangerous bow echo over Chicago, which forced the evacuation of the Lollapalooza music festival.

Jeff Masters

IN THE EYE OF THE STORM (nanamac)
Storm clouds overwhelming Chicago
IN THE EYE OF THE STORM
IN THE EYE OF THE STORM (nanamac)
Sheets of rain & darkness!
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Storm damage (Bubbly)
Straight line winds during a severe thunderstorm left crumpled metal and splintered wood behind in Frytown, Iowa
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Quoting Hurricanes101:


???

They haven't even made it into the storm yet
thats why i said SO FAR , i know we still have info to get but thats my observations thus far
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:




now this blog is really going down....:)
he is a real professional hurricane forecaster he is from my home town in Miami,fl he is very loved here in South Florida
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Quoting Seflhurricane:
It Appears to me looking at recon Info So far that Ernesto has not Intensified further from 50 mph and likely pressure will be the same or a tad lower.


???

They haven't even made it into the storm yet
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After Ernesto, I wont doubt the GFS as much.
It was right on the spot for the forecast of ernesto
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Quoting gulfbreeze:
It looks like Ernesto is moving more toward the NW. Could the ULL in the Gulf help pull Ernesto more to the North? Also on the WV looks like most of the dry is almost gone.

I think ernesto is right now moving WNW and I think it may be possible to see a NW movement but not now

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Quoting GTcooliebai:
From Director of the NHC, Bryan Norcross:

"Ernesto is slowing down a bit and thunderstorms are now building back over the center, though the system is still lopsided with nothing on the front/west side. The thinking continues that it will likely intensify over the next couple of days as it skims along the northern coast of Honduras and approaches Belize and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. The forward motion will continue to slow, and the atmosphere and ocean appear favorable for strengthening, so hurricane strength is still possible when it comes ashore, although if it gets too close to Honduras, that won't happen. In any case, it's clear now that Ernesto is likely to NOT be a problem for the U.S. Depending on what happens over the Yucatan, it may re-intensify over the southern Gulf, but it looks very unlikely that the strong dip in the jet stream that is causing the bad weather in the northeast, and is expected to persist through at least midweek next week, will be strong enough to deflect Ernesto north. Strong squalls of wind and rain are affecting Jamaica and will soon move into the Cayman Islands as well as northern Honduras and northeastern Nicaragua."

I'll be back later.
Wish he was the director but he is not he is the hurricane specialist at the weather channel
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Quoting GTcooliebai:
From Director of the NHC, Bryan Norcross:

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now this blog is really going down....:)
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Look like an "eye" around 14.9N/78.8W , just sayin "looks like an eye" not sayin it is!
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Quoting STXHurricanes2012:
1045: please remove that now!!! Don't be threatening others as well now lets get back to ernesto.


There was no threat in post 1045. Please actually read it before you pass judgement.
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From Director of the NHC, Bryan Norcross:

"Ernesto is slowing down a bit and thunderstorms are now building back over the center, though the system is still lopsided with nothing on the front/west side. The thinking continues that it will likely intensify over the next couple of days as it skims along the northern coast of Honduras and approaches Belize and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. The forward motion will continue to slow, and the atmosphere and ocean appear favorable for strengthening, so hurricane strength is still possible when it comes ashore, although if it gets too close to Honduras, that won't happen. In any case, it's clear now that Ernesto is likely to NOT be a problem for the U.S. Depending on what happens over the Yucatan, it may re-intensify over the southern Gulf, but it looks very unlikely that the strong dip in the jet stream that is causing the bad weather in the northeast, and is expected to persist through at least midweek next week, will be strong enough to deflect Ernesto north. Strong squalls of wind and rain are affecting Jamaica and will soon move into the Cayman Islands as well as northern Honduras and northeastern Nicaragua."

I'll be back later.
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1045: please remove that now!!! Don't be threatening others as well now lets get back to ernesto.
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Quoting gbreezegirl:
bad thunderstorm headed my way coming from Navarre towards Gulf Breeze. Booming continuously.


Navarre had one of those every afternoon for the past two weeks.
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It Appears to me looking at recon Info So far that Ernesto has not Intensified further from 50 mph and likely pressure will be the same or a tad lower.
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1069. Gino99
Quoting tennisgirl08:
POLL TIME....bored while waiting on recon:

What will the HHs find when they reach Ernesto?
A. status quo - no weakening or strengthening; same track and speed
B. 50 mph,WNW - slower
C. 60 mph, W - slower
D. strongest yet - 70 mph or higher

E. none of the above (please be specific)


I'd say B.
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Quoting MississippiWx:
The 50mph winds were rain contaminated. The flight level winds were only around 20kts and there was a high rain rate.


So what do you think they are going to find?
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1067. Hugo5
Quoting mynameispaul:


Ernesto has to slow down ... a lot.


agreed, but as storms approach land they tend to slow down, so far es has had a high pressure system blowing it into dry air keeping it weak. It is in my opinion that it will blow up into a significate storm in the next day.
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Quoting Levi32:
Cirrus coming in from the west in the NW part of this loop show that there is still some shear to deal with at the moment that could keep Ernesto southeast-weighted for now, though that shear should be lightening with time.

The dry air isn't the biggest problem Ernesto has, as much as the forward speed. If he had slowed down, he could have circled the wagons, but he never did for long enough to protect himself from the dry air. As it is, the Indians have been winning the fight.

Now it would appear that the cavalry has arrived in the form of cooler air aloft, and the wagons don't need to be circled to beat back the natives.

It's so easy to blame dry air for everything, but I'm beginning to lean towards the vertical instability crowd much more as the real problem. We've all seen systems similar to this manage to circle the wagons, but they were able to do this by having the fire power to hold off the natives. Ernesto never had the fire power.



So many times lately we hear that "it's the dry air," but it's more than that, much more.

The question now is, is the cavalry arriving too late? I can't tell yet, because there's too much smoke in the air to see how many wagons are left.

About 3 A.M. I'll be looking for the tops of those covered wagons, and counting their number. I'm betting the Indians have about run out of ammunition, and the smart thing to do is head away from the jungles of Honduras.
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There appears to be a plethora of Bunker Sock Puppets present.
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Quoting DubiousCane2012:


Really? I am being turned into the laughing stock of the blog tonight?

That hurts.

I guess I am not being believed when I say that I am not her, =(


her.lol

i dont believe or disbelieve you, lets put it that way
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1063. Gino99
Hey all.
I've been checking this blog and hurricanes in general for a long time (since the busy 2005 season), and I think that my English grammar now is proper enough to discuss hurricanes :)

Sorry for that off-topic message, so what's going on with Ernesto?
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It looks like Ernesto is moving more toward the NW. Could the ULL in the Gulf help pull Ernesto more to the North? Also on the WV looks like most of the dry is almost gone.
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Winner of poll is A
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The 50mph winds were rain contaminated. The flight level winds were only around 20kts and there was a high rain rate.
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Quoting galvestonhurricane:
Poll Time!

Is DubiousCane 2012 either JFV or a troll?

A. Yes
B. No
C. Maybe
D. I don't know
E. I don't care


Do we have to vote along party lines?


C/D
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BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM ERNESTO INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 17A
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL052012
800 PM EDT SUN AUG 05 2012

...ERNESTO GETTING A LITTLE BETTER ORGANIZED AS IT MOVES WESTWARD...
...RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT APPROACHING THE CENTER OF THE STORM...


SUMMARY OF 800 PM EDT...0000 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...15.4N 79.6W
ABOUT 245 MI...395 KM E OF CABO GRACIAS A DIOS ON NIC/HON BORDER
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH...85 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 280 DEGREES AT 20 MPH...32 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1006 MB...29.71 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY...

NONE.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT...

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* JAMAICA

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* GRAND CAYMAN
* THE COAST OF HONDURAS FROM THE HONDURAS/NICARAGUA BORDER WESTWARD
TO PUNTA CASTILLA

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE
EXPECTED SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE WARNING AREA...IN THIS CASE WITHIN
12 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...IN THIS CASE WITHIN 24 TO 48 HOURS.

INTERESTS IN BELIZE AND THE YUCATAN PENINSULA OF MEXICO SHOULD
MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF ERNESTO.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR
PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR NATIONAL METEOROLOGICAL SERVICE.


DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
------------------------------
AT 800 PM EDT...0000 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM ERNESTO WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 15.4 NORTH...LONGITUDE 79.6 WEST. ERNESTO IS
MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 20 MPH...32 KM/H...AND A GRADUAL TURN
TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST WITH A FURTHER DECREASE IN FORWARD SPEED
IS EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. ON THE FORECAST TRACK...THE
CENTER OF ERNESTO IS EXPECTED TO PASS TO THE SOUTH OF THE CAYMAN
ISLANDS TONIGHT AND EARLY MONDAY AND MOVE NORTH OF THE NORTHEASTERN
COAST OF HONDURAS LATE MONDAY AND MONDAY NIGHT.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 50 MPH...85 KM/H...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST AS ERNESTO MOVES OVER THE
WESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY.

TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 125 MILES...205 KM
FROM THE CENTER.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1006 MB...29.71 INCHES.


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
WIND...TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN JAMAICA THROUGH
THIS EVENING. TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE IN GRAND
CAYMAN TONIGHT AND EARLY MONDAY...AND IN THE WATCH AREA ALONG THE
COAST OF HONDURAS BY LATE MONDAY.

RAINFALL...RAINFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF 2 TO 4 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED
HIGHER AMOUNTS...CAN BE EXPECTED IN JAMAICA AS ERNESTO MOVES BY THE
ISLAND.


NEXT ADVISORY
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NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY...1100 PM EDT.
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Quoting Hugo5:
I think tomorrow we will see a much different ernesto; florrence may be downgraded for now, but will come back when it gets past the wind shear, I believe then we will see flo blow up into a much larger storm. The low coming off of africa looks like it will form pretty similar to flo, however the wind shear will be a little higher, so slower developement. I also expect l91 reminats to come back and flare up in the gom. should be an exciting week ahead.


Ernesto has to slow down ... a lot.
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ime: 23:50:30Z
Coordinates: 16.2N 78.4667W
Acft. Static Air Press: 842.5 mb (~ 24.88 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 1,571 meters (~ 5,154 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 1010.0 mb (~ 29.83 inHg)
D-value: -
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 103° at 22 knots (From the ESE at ~ 25.3 mph)
Air Temp: 16.0°C (~ 60.8°F)
Dew Pt: 13.5°C (~ 56.3°F)
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 22 knots (~ 25.3 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 26 knots (~ 29.9 mph)
SFMR Rain Rate: 2 mm/hr (~ 0.08 in/hr)
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Quoting wxchaser97:

Look at the rain rate, has to have some affect on the winds. But I know what you mean, he may be stronger.
I hope when it comes on shore the rain will have abated some we don,t need no rain everything has just dryied out since june rain season started
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Quoting tennisgirl08:
POLL TIME....bored while waiting on recon:

What will the HHs find when they reach Ernesto?
A. status quo - no weakening or strengthening; same track and speed
B. 50 mph,WNW - slower
C. 60 mph, W - slower
D. strongest yet - 70 mph or higher

E. none of the above (please be specific)

E/A
E-with the winds
a-with the movement
Quoting stormpetrol:
Have a feeling this might an exciting and surprising mission.

Time: 23:20:00Z
Coordinates: 16.5N 75.9833W
Acft. Static Air Press: 392.3 mb (~ 11.58 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 7,728 meters (~ 25,354 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: -
D-value: 407 meters (~ 1,335 feet)
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 150° at 18 knots (From the SSE at ~ 20.7 mph)
Air Temp: -15.2°C* (~ 4.6°F*)
Dew Pt: -*
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 20 knots (~ 23.0 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 47 knots (~ 54.0 mph)
SFMR Rain Rate: 21 mm/hr (~ 0.83 in/hr)
(*) Denotes suspect data


wow that far out hmm we could be talking about a 65MPH or 70MPH storm you know
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Strong winds from Ernesto force closure of Golden Jubilee Village

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bad thunderstorm headed my way coming from Navarre towards Gulf Breeze. Booming continuously.
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92E

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 PM PDT SUN AUG 5 2012

FOR THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC...EAST OF 140 DEGREES WEST LONGITUDE..

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ASSOCIATED WITH A LOW PRESSURE AREA
LOCATED ABOUT 500 MILES SOUTHWEST OF ACAPULCO HAVE BECOME BETTER
ORGANIZED DURING THE LAST SEVERAL HOURS. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS
ARE CONDUCIVE FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT...AND THIS DISTURBANCE COULD
BECOME A TROPICAL DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. THIS
SYSTEM HAS A MEDIUM CHANCE...50 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL
CYCLONE AS IT MOVES NORTHWESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH DURING THE NEXT
48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER KIMBERLAIN
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Obvious trolls are quite obvious...I always get a kick on how long its takes some of the people here to figure it out. The real question is, what kind of mental state does one have to have to troll a tropical weather blog? If we knew the answer to that, we would know much more about the universe.
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Quoting tennisgirl08:
POLL TIME....bored while waiting on recon:

What will the HHs find when they reach Ernesto?
A. status quo - no weakening or strengthening; same track and speed
B. 50 mph,WNW - slower
C. 60 mph, W - slower
D. strongest yet - 70 mph or higher

E. none of the above (please be specific)

Prob B
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50mph.but.pressure.rapidly.falling
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Quoting SaladTosser:


how is it that someone gets on this site with such a handle. Your handle is highly inappropriate. So do tell, do you toss salads Salad Tosser?
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Finally a new report. They are descending.
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Quoting islander101010:
rough.flight?...remember.felix


no what happened..

btw recon was still at 25k feet at the last report i have
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Quoting islander101010:
rough.flight?...remember.felix



i do
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Latest location of plane
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Descending

Time: 23:30:30Z
Coordinates: 16.5667N 76.9833W
Acft. Static Air Press: 461.3 mb (~ 13.62 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 6,501 meters (~ 21,329 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: -
D-value: 339 meters (~ 1,112 feet)
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 69° at 17 knots (From the ENE at ~ 19.5 mph)
Air Temp: -8.5°C* (~ 16.7°F*)
Dew Pt: -*
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 18 knots (~ 20.7 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 28 knots (~ 32.2 mph)
SFMR Rain Rate: 3 mm/hr (~ 0.12 in/hr)
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Quoting islander101010:
rough.flight?...remember.felix


Felix was a major hurricane at the time lol. They are just having technical issues, as usual.
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Quoting MississippiWx:
Recon hasn't reported in 25 minutes.
Could be foreshadowing that Ernesto is getting his act together?.Lol.
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Quoting galvestonhurricane:


Where do you live? Sorry for my harsh scrutiny.


South Florida. Don't let him bait you.
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Quoting tennisgirl08:
POLL TIME....bored while waiting on recon:

What will the HHs find when they reach Ernesto?
A. status quo - no weakening or strengthening; same track and speed
B. 50 mph,WNW - slower
C. 60 mph, W - slower
D. strongest yet - 70 mph or higher

E. none of the above (please be specific)

E. 3 competing cocs. Nobody is going anywhere until one wins out sometime tomorrow afternoon, so rent a few movies :)
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