TD 5 strugging; 121° in Oklahoma; little change to U.S. drought

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:04 PM GMT on August 02, 2012

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A disheveled Tropical Depression Five is clinging to life in the face of stiff wind shear and dry air, as the storm heads towards the Lesser Antilles Islands with a forward speed of 20 mph. The depression is very ragged looking on visible satellite loops. The depression has only a small area of heavy thunderstorms, which are on the south side of the center due to high wind shear and dry air on the northern side of the storm. Wind shear over TD 5 is at the moderate level, 15 - 20 knots. Water vapor satellite loops show that TD 5 is at the southern edge of a large area of dry air. Wind shear due to strong upper level winds from the west is driving this dry air into the core of the storm, disrupting it. The first Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft will investigate TD 5 Thursday afternoon to give us a better idea of its strength.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of TD 5.

Forecast for TD 5
TD 5's west to west-northwest motion should bring its outer rain bands to Barbados early Friday morning, and high winds and heavy rain will spread over the rest of the Windward Islands by Friday afternoon. Since wind shear will be higher on the storm's north side, I expect the heaviest weather will be on the south side of TD 5, over the Windward Islands. Wind shear is expected to remain moderate, 10 - 20 knots, through Friday, according to the 8 am EDT run of the SHIPS model. However, the reliable ECMWF model predicts higher shear on Friday and Saturday, which could tear TD 5 apart. A number of our reliable computer models predict TD 5 will not survive its passage through the islands this weekend. However, most of the models agree that once TD 5 (or its remnants) pass enter the Central Caribbean on Monday, wind shear will fall to the low range, and strengthening (or regeneration) can occur. Once TD 5 enters the Western Caribbean between Jamaica and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, a trough of low pressure passing to the storm's north may be capable of turning TD 5 more to the northwest, resulting in the storm entering the Gulf of Mexico. An equally likely scenario at this point is that TD 5 will not turn, and instead will take a more westerly path over the Yucatan Peninsula. The long-term forecast for what the storm will do once it gets to the Western Caribbean depends upon whether or not TD 5 survives during the next two days.


Figure 2. High temperatures yesterday in Oklahoma from the Oklahoma Mesonet.

Extreme heat in Oklahoma
Wednesday was the hottest day in Oklahoma since August 1936, said wunderground's weather historian, Christopher C. Burt, with more than half of the state recording temperatures of 110° or higher. The hot spot Wednesday: 121° in Freedom, in the northwest part of the state. If verified, this temperature would beat Oklahoma's all-time state temperature record of 120°, set in Tipton on June 27, 1994, and at three locations in 1936. The official temperature at the Oklahoma City airport hit 112° Wednesday, tied for the city's 2nd highest temperature since record keeping began in 1890. The only hotter day was August 11, 1936, when the temperature hit 113°. Other hot spots in Oklahoma yesterday:

118° at station W1DY (just north of Oklahoma City's Wiley Post Airport)
116° at Claremore
115° at Chandler, Enid, Guthrie, Okmulgee, Omega, and Kingfisher

Thursday's forecast calls for a high temperatures of 113° in Oklahoma City, which would be the hottest temperature in the city's history. You can see the extreme high of 121° in Freedom, OK using the NWS Mesonet Observations tool.

It was also brutally hot in northern Texas, with the hottest temperature a 118° reading at station DW3597 in Wichita Falls, Texas. This is just shy of the state record of 120° set on August 12, 1936, in Seymour. The Wichita Falls airport hit 112°, which was just 1° below the all-time hottest August temperature ever measured in the city (113° on August 8, 1964.)

Little change to the U.S. drought during the past week
The great U.S. drought of 2012 remained about the same size and intensity over the past week, said NOAA in their weekly U.S. Drought Monitor report issued Thursday, August 2. The area of the contiguous U.S. covered by drought dropped slightly, from 64% to 63% over the past week, and the area covered by severe or greater drought stayed constant at 46%. If we average the past five drought monitor reports to come up with unofficial July drought numbers for the contiguous U.S., the 2012 drought is second only to the great Dust Bowl drought of July 1934 in terms of the area of the contiguous U.S. covered by moderate or greater drought:

1) Jul 1934, 80%
2) Jul 2012, 62%
3) Dec 1939, 60%
4) Jul 1954, 60%
5) Dec 1956, 58%

If we consider the area of the contiguous U.S. covered by severe or greater drought, my unofficial calculations show that 2012 ranks in 5th place:

1) Jul 1934, 63%
2) Sep 1954, 50%
3) Dec 1956, 43%
4) Aug 1936, 43%
5) Jul 2012, 41%

The U.S. Department of Agriculture has now declared more than half of all counties in the U.S. (50.3%) natural disaster areas due to the drought, adding 218 counties in 12 states to its disaster list on Wednesday. In all, nearly 1,600 counties in 32 states have been declared disaster areas.


Figure 3. July 31, 2012 drought conditions showed historic levels of drought across the U.S., with 64% of the contiguous U.S. experiencing moderate or greater drought, and 46% of the county experiencing severe or greater drought. Image credit: U.S. Drought Monitor.


Figure 4. The twice-monthly U.S. Drought Outlook, updated on Thursday, August 2, predicts that drought will continue through October over most of the U.S., Some expansion to the north and south is expected, but also some improvement over the Eastern U.S. and Southwest U.S. Image credit: NOAA Climate Prediction Center.

Drought predicted to extend into October
In their twice-monthly drought outlook, released on Thursday August 2, NOAA's Climate Prediction Center had this to say about the Midwest drought: Unfortunately, the self-perpetuation of regional drought conditions, with very dry soils and very limited evapotranspiration, tends to inhibit widespread development of or weaken existing thunderstorm complexes. It would require a dramatic shift in the weather pattern to provide significant relief to this drought, and most tools and models do not forecast this. Unfortunately, all indicators (short and medium-term, August, and August-October) favor above normal temperatures. With much of the Plains already in drought and getting worse, above normal temperatures expected into the fall, and a dry short-term and 30-day forecast, the drought should persist, with some possible development in the northern Plains.

One bright spot: drought conditions are expected to improve over the Southwest U.S. over the next few weeks, as the annual summer monsoon peaks and brings heavy rains. The Southeast U.S. has seen some improvement over the past week. The potential for a landfalling tropical storm to bring drought-busting rains during the August - September - October peak of hurricane season led NOAA to predict possible improvement in drought conditions over the Southeast U.S.

Drought already creating global ripples
The U.S. is the world's largest exporter of corn and wheat, and 3rd largest exporter of soybeans. According to the Christian Science Monitor, food price increases due to the U.S. drought is already causing unrest in other parts of the world: "Take Indonesia, where soybeans are used to make tofu, the staple protein for the country's poor. There, soybean prices have risen 33 percent in the past month, and are already causing tensions. On July 26, there were clashes in Jakarta and other major cities in markets as a coalition of tofu producers sought to enforce a national production strike protesting against a 5 percent soybean import duty."

Jeff Masters

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1398. StAugustineFL
1:05 AM GMT on August 03, 2012
Apologies for being off topic but I had a little boomer move through earlier and captured this picture.

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1397. redwagon
12:29 AM GMT on August 03, 2012
Quoting centex:
Shouldn't be doing this when not even in the Caribbean yet but this may give some a rough idea on accurcy of mainland landfall predictions this far out. Percents are confidence levels, rough estimates.

Between

Veracruz/pensacola - 80%
Tampico / New Orleans - 50%
Brownsville / Port Arthur - 10%



Ernesto seems tracked to avoid any haircuts from all the islands en route.. if he only brushes the Yucatan with his NW and SW quadrant, it's summertime, when the livin's easy.
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1396. bluenosedave
12:13 AM GMT on August 03, 2012
Quoting sunlinepr:


Wow. Something just blew up over Illinois.
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1395. sunlinepr
11:27 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
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1394. sunlinepr
11:26 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Trinidad will feel the effects soon... Though they look minimal....

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1393. Jedkins01
11:17 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting GTcooliebai:
Yes, but he spoke in absolutes giving a false sense of security, and Jim Van Fleet is doing a much better job at weighing the scenarios with the 2 High Pressures, while not leaning to one extreme or the other he mentions how he is watching to see if the High out in the Atlantic retrogrades, thus opening the door to a path through the GOM. Dennis sounds sold on the path through the Yucatan or Central America.


Be aware though that if it does mention to reach the gulf, it's more than likely it will just continue west or mostly west and at least stat away from us. While you can never say never, the upper air patterns highly favor a system making landfall in Mexico, I would say that Texas and Louisiana are still at some risk because it is far out, but our risk is less than 5% I'd say.

Obviously there is a lot of time ahead, so yes nothing can be ruled out, not even Florida, but it's not one we should be concerned about, yes us weather nerds will still be tracking it the whole way but regular "folks" who aren't bothered with weather for the sake of weather need not worry about Ernesto right now if you live in Florida.



We should have plenty of rain coming our way in the mean time with the approaching tropical wave. I really don't know why there is an attempt to drop rain chances again later next week, that fetch of dry air and dust no longer exists as an issue for us because trends in moisture flux indicate that we should have plenty of rain through next week.


I don't know what the deal is with forecasts around here this summer, they are too slow to increase rain chances and to quick to drop them even though overall it's been a very wet summer. Yes the last week has been a bit dry but it's sort of the exception because of that huge ejection of desert dust that sneaked in over Florida and become trapped within a high pressure center over us.
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1392. cherweather
10:57 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Ernesto, this is Barbados, GO AROUND, you are to close
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1391. cherweather
10:55 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting bajelayman2:


Thanks. True on Ivan, he was already CAT3. But Tomas, for a strong storm, weak CAT1 even, did a lot of damage to telephone poles.


Thanks. True on Ivan, he was already CAT3. But Tomas, for a strong storm, weak CAT1 even, did a lot of damage to telephone poles.

Not only Telephone poles, also houses and house-roof tops hotel roofs and lots of trees
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1390. HurricaneHunterJoe
10:29 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting GTcooliebai:
Well I don't like this atall.



Why is that?
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1389. HurricaneHunterJoe
10:27 PM GMT on August 02, 2012

Conditions at 41101 as of
2200 GMT on 08/02/2012:
Unit of Measure: Time Zone:
Click on the graph icon in the table below to see a time series plot of the last 24 hours of that observation.

Wind Direction (WDIR): E ( 90 deg true )
Wind Speed (WSPD): 28.9 kts
Wave Height (WVHT): 10.5 ft
Dominant Wave Period (DPD): 7 sec
Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.83 in
Pressure Tendency (PTDY): +0.00 in ( Steady )
Air Temperature (ATMP): 80.8 °F
Water Temperature (WTMP): 82.6 °F
Dew Point (DEWP): 75.6 °F
Heat Index (HEAT): 86.7 °F
Combined plot of Wind Speed, Gust, and Air Pressure
Data from this station are not quality controlled by NDBC

Previous observations

MM DD TIME
(GMT) WDIR WSPD
kts GST
kts WVHT
ft DPD
sec APD
sec MWD PRES
in PTDY
in ATMP
°F WTMP
°F DEWP
°F SAL
psu VIS
nmi TIDE
ft
08 02 2100 E 27.0 - 8.5 7 - - 29.83 -0.04 79.7 82.4 75.0 - - -
08 02 2000 ENE 27.0 - 7.9 7 - - 29.81 -0.05 81.9 82.8 75.0 - - -
08 02 1900 NE 24.1 - 7.2 6 - - 29.83 -0.07 79.9 82.8 75.6 - - -
08 02 1800 ENE 24.1 - 6.6 6 - - 29.86 -0.06 79.0 82.6 74.5 - - -
08 02 1700 NNE 22.9 - 6.2 6 - - 29.87 -0.06 82.2 82.4 76.5 - - -
08 02 1600 NE 21.0 - 6.9 7 - - 29.90 -0.02 82.4 82.6 76.1
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1388. Hurricane1956
10:22 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting Patrap:
18z Early Cycle NHC model tracks
TS #5

Dynamic Models (More sophisticated models)


We can see a North Vias at the end of the Models run,maybe the trough of low pressure coming down start affecting the system at this location,or maybe before it get to the eastern part of Cuba,time will tell.
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1387. hydrus
10:22 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
The latest EURO takes it into South Texas.CMC West Central Cuba.NOGAPS..lolGFS near the Yucatan.
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1386. HurricaneDean07
10:10 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Ernesto will probably be the longest lived system thus far, into the season... mainly because of the fact, this is the only storm that formed fully Tropically so far.
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1385. floridaboy14
10:06 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
You can toss the 18z GFS, no question about it... It initializes Ernesto as a tiny, pathetic, 1010mb low... That of course throws the whole run off.
i care about what the ENSEMBLE MEMEBERS show :)
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1384. ringeaux
10:05 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Cool pic. Maybe we can make a trip one day. I've been on this site since Sept. 2004, but don't post much. I appreciate all your info and links and have bookmarked many of them. Hope we get to track this one straight west.

Quoting Patrap:


Grand Isle is the spot.

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1383. centex
10:04 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Shouldn't be doing this when not even in the Caribbean yet but this may give some a rough idea on accurcy of mainland landfall predictions this far out. Percents are confidence levels, rough estimates.

Between

Veracruz/pensacola - 80%
Tampico / New Orleans - 50%
Brownsville / Port Arthur - 10%


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1382. Patrap
10:04 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
18z Early Cycle NHC model tracks
TS #5

Dynamic Models (More sophisticated models)


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1381. nigel20
10:03 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
You can toss the 18z GFS, no question about it... It initializes Ernesto as a tiny, pathetic, 1010mb low... That of course throws the whole run off.

Edit: Nigel, I guess that answers your question :)

Yeah, thanks!
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1380. Tazmanian
10:03 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
You can toss the 18z GFS, no question about it... It initializes Ernesto as a tiny, pathetic, 1010mb low... That of course throws the whole run off.

Edit: Nigel, I guess that answers your question :)



whats see what else it shows even no its a bad run for are new TS
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1379. GTcooliebai
10:03 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
You can toss the 18z GFS, no question about it... It initializes Ernesto as a tiny, pathetic, 1010mb low... That of course throws the whole run off.
So I'm guessing the recon data didn't get sent in on time, so we have to wait for tonight's run.
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1378. AllStar17
10:03 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
You can toss the 18z GFS, no question about it... It initializes Ernesto as a tiny, pathetic, 1010mb low... That of course throws the whole run off.

Edit: Nigel, I guess that answers your question :)


Yeah...doesn't seem realistic.
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1377. VAbeachhurricanes
10:03 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting nigel20:

Hey MA! Do you think that will happen?


Not if its stronger than the GFS is showing
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1375. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
10:02 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
1374. MiamiHurricanes09
10:02 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
18z GFS is garbage tbh.
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1373. MAweatherboy1
10:02 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
You can toss the 18z GFS, no question about it... It initializes Ernesto as a tiny, pathetic, 1010mb low... That of course throws the whole run off.

Edit: Nigel, I guess that answers your question :)
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1372. HurricaneHunterJoe
10:01 PM GMT on August 02, 2012


Ugly...lol
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1371. nigel20
10:01 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting MAweatherboy1:
18z GFS running, looks like it takes it straight into Central America within 4 days...




Hey MA! Do you think that will happen?
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1370. GTcooliebai
10:00 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting luvtogolf:


This storm is over a week away from Florida so I don't think anybody is going to react based on what he is saying today. Everyone should have a plan come June 1st.
but then again no one should just blow this off and act like nothing is going to happen, just got to keep an eye on it, don't have to lose sleep over it though, unless you are a weather enthusiast like me and like to track them.
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1369. weathermanwannabe
10:00 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting ringeaux:
Too soon to tell, IMO. Tides are a little weak, but improving each day. You'll be fishing a falling tide all 3 days, so inside may be better than the beach. The reds are in the passes, too.




I concur. Those Reds love hitting the bait fish in the slots and channels on a falling tide (as you can see from my Avatar).

See Yall Tommorow.
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1368. Chiggy
10:00 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Hmmm. 18Z GFS buries Ernesto in Central America - this is at 78 hrs
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1367. MAweatherboy1
9:59 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
18z GFS running, looks like it takes it straight into Central America within 4-5 days...



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1366. luvtogolf
9:58 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting GTcooliebai:
Yes, but he spoke in absolutes giving a false sense of security, and Jim Van Fleet is doing a much better job at weighing the scenarios with the 2 High Pressures, while not leaning to one extreme or the other.


This storm is over a week away from Florida so I don't think anybody is going to react based on what he is saying today. Everyone should have a plan come June 1st.
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1365. 1900hurricane
9:58 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
I know suspicions and feelings take a backseat to hard facts in tropical meteorology (and for good reason), but I do have a strange feeling about this one...
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1364. 19N81W
9:57 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
really looks like a gimp of a storm....you expect to see those off the eastern seaboard not in the caribbean!
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1363. Patrap
9:57 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting ringeaux:
Too soon to tell, IMO. Tides are a little weak, but improving each day. You'll be fishing a falling tide all 3 days, so inside may be better than the beach. The reds are in the passes, too.




Grand Isle is the spot.

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1362. washingtonian115
9:57 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting HurricaneHunterJoe:


Ernesto track 2006
Unfortunately that will not be happening.
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1361. GTcooliebai
9:56 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
I agree. It would be pretty rare for a storm to meet a trof strong enough to turn it off to the NE this time of year.

Oh sure and Charley didn't turn from a trough that swung down during this time of the year? You got to remember too FL. is a big state and extends over towards the Panhandle.
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1360. ringeaux
9:56 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Too soon to tell, IMO. Tides are a little weak, but improving each day. You'll be fishing a falling tide all 3 days, so inside may be better than the beach. The reds are in the passes, too.


Quoting spleenstomper:
Hey, patrap.. We have a camp rented in Grand Isle, La next Wrd, Thurs, Fri, which obviously is a fishing getaway. What are your thoughts on that? We can't get a refund unless Grand Isle is under a hurricane warning. I'd hate to get down there and then get involved in an evacuation!! Thanks!
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1359. HurricaneHunterJoe
9:55 PM GMT on August 02, 2012


Ernesto track 2006
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1358. AllStar17
9:55 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
REPOST
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1357. nigel20
9:54 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting Pocamocca:

Another good one to bookmark. Thanks, Nigel!

No problem!
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1356. aspectre
9:54 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
2August12pmGMT's 12.9n53.4w was re-evaluated&altered
2August06pmGMT's 12.8n53.6w - 12.8n55.6w are now the most recent positions
Derived from (NHC) ATCF data for TS.Ernesto for 2August6pmGMT:
MinimumPressure stayed at 1008millibars
MaximumSustainedWinds increased from 30knots(35.5mph)55.6km/h to 40knots(46mph)74km/h
Its vector changed from 273.3°West@21.4mph(34.5km/h) to 270.2°West@22.5mph(36.2km/h)

FDF-Martinique :: UVF-St.Lucia :: BGI-Barbados :: CIW-Canouan ::GND-Grenada

The Easternmost dot on the connected line-segments is where 99Lbecame TD.5
The Easternmost dot on the longest line is where TD.5 became TS.Ernesto and its most recent position

The longest line is a straightline projection through TS.Ernesto's 2 most recent positions to a coastline
On 2August12amGMT, TD.5 had been headed for passage 2miles(3.2kilometres)North of Martinique (FDF-dumbbell)
On 2August6amGMT, TD.5 had been headed for passage over Despinose,St.Lucia (northern-dot on the UVF-dumbbell)
On 2August12pmGMT, TD.5 had been headed for passage 1.6miles(2.6kilometres)South of Barbados (BGI-blob)
On 2August6pmGMT, TS.Ernesto was heading for passage over Carenage,Canouan in ~13hours from now

Copy&paste axa, nev-17.134n62.542w, anu-17.004n61.833w-16.917n61.864w, ptp, dom, fdf-14.877n61.139w-14.905n61.134w, uvf-13.94n60.876w, bgi, ciw, gnd, tab, 12.0n48.2w-12.4n49.8w, 12.4n49.8w-12.7n51.7w, 12.7n51.7w-12.8n53.6w, 12.7n51.7w-13.0217n59.528w, 13.045n59.527w-13.0217n59.528w, 12.8n53.6w-12.8n55.6w, 12.8n53.6w-12.72n61.308w into the GreatCircleMapper for more information
The previous mapping for comparison
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1355. luvtogolf
9:54 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting Jedkins01:


I think he is very right though, the chances of a Florida landfall are extremely low and for good reason.


I agree. This does not have the feel of a Florida storm. Disclaimer: I have the right to change my opinion in future forecasts:)
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1353. FLWeatherFreak91
9:53 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting Jedkins01:


I think he is very right though, the chances of a Florida landfall are extremely low and for good reason.
I agree. It would be pretty rare for a storm to meet a trof strong enough to turn it off to the NE this time of year.

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1352. sunlinepr
9:53 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
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1351. GTcooliebai
9:53 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting Jedkins01:


I think he is very right though, the chances of a Florida landfall are extremely low and for good reason.
Yes, but he spoke in absolutes giving a false sense of security, and Jim Van Fleet is doing a much better job at weighing the scenarios with the 2 High Pressures, while not leaning to one extreme or the other he mentions how he is watching to see if the High out in the Atlantic retrogrades, thus opening the door to a path through the GOM. Dennis sounds sold on the path through the Yucatan or Central America.
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1350. TxLisa
9:52 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting TxLisa:
A former hurricane hunter will be on at 5pm to discuss possible track. So we will see. At least he is acknowledging Ernesto but without too much hype.
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Was it bad?
He said some viewers google models or go to weather underground for info on models so hurricane expert coming on to explain things.
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1349. Patrap
9:52 PM GMT on August 02, 2012
Quoting spleenstomper:
Hey, patrap.. We have a camp rented in Grand Isle, La next Wrd, Thurs, Fri, which obviously is a fishing getaway. What are your thoughts on that? We can't get a refund unless Grand Isle is under a hurricane warning. I'd hate to get down there and then get involved in an evacuation!! Thanks!


Id stay up on that as they are the First area to Evacuate during a threat.

They have a fine website too I think.

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1348. nigel20
9:51 PM GMT on August 02, 2012

Ernesto should be close to the islands by late tonight or early tomorrow.
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