Historic 2012 U.S. drought: 6th greatest on record

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 10:59 PM GMT on July 16, 2012

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The great drought of 2012 is upon us. The percentage area of the contiguous U.S. covered by moderate or greater drought increased to 56% by the end of June, and ranked as the sixth largest drought since U.S. weather records began in 1895, said NOAA's National Climatic Data Center in their monthly State of the Climate drought report on Monday. The last time more of the U.S. was in drought occurred in December 1956, with 58%. June 2012 ranked as the 10th greatest U.S. drought on record, when considering the percentage area of the U.S. in severe or greater drought (33%.)


Figure 1. June 2012 ranked in sixth place for the greatest percent area of the contiguous U.S. covered by moderate or greater drought, since record keeping began in 1895. Graphic created from data from NOAA's National Climatic Data Center.

The forecast: hot and dry with increasing drought
The great drought of 2012 is going to steadily worsen during the remainder of July. Recent runs of the global computer forecast models predict a continuation through the end of July of the large-scale jet stream patterns that have brought the U.S. its hot, dry summer weather. The most extreme heat will tend to be focused over the center portion of the county. That was certainly the case Monday, with temperatures near or in excess of 100° observed from South Dakota to Michigan. High temperatures near 100°F are expected in Chicago and Detroit on Tuesday, and over much of the Midwest.


Figure 2. Comparison of drought between June 2012 (top) and June 1988 (bottom) shows that drought conditions covered a similar proportion of the contiguous U.S., but the spatial patterns were different. The 2012 drought is especially intense over the Southwest U.S., but in 1988, this region experienced a very active summer monsoon season that kept the region moist. However, in 1988, the Northern Plains were much drier than in 2012. Image credit: NOAA Earth System Research Laboratory.

A multi-billion dollar drought disaster underway
Agronomists and drought experts are comparing the scale and intensity of the 2012 drought to the 1988 drought. With the forecast offering little optimism, the costs of the 2012 drought are certain to be many billions of dollars, and the disaster could be one of the top ten most expensive weather-related disasters in U.S. history. Droughts historically have been some of the costliest U.S. weather disasters. A four-year drought and locust plague from 1874 - 1877 cost $169 billion (2012 dollars), and was arguably the most expensive weather related disaster in U.S. history (see Jeffrey Lockwood's 2004 book, Locust.) The costs of the great Dust Bowl drought of the 1930s, which displaced 2.5 million people, are incalculable. The costs of government financial assistance alone were $13 billion in 2012 dollars (Warrick, 1980.) The 1988 drought cost $78 billion (2012 dollars), the second most expensive weather disaster since 1980, behind Hurricane Katrina.

The associated heat wave of the great drought of 2012 is also a major concern. The heat waves associated with the great droughts of 1980 and 1988 killed between 7,500 - 10,000 people, according to NOAA's National Climatic Data Center. The heat waves of the 1930s are blamed for 5,000 deaths. The death toll from the 2012 heat wave is approaching 100, including 23 in Chicago, up to 19 in Wisconsin, 18 in Maryland, 17 in St. Louis, and 9 in Philadelphia. The toll will undoubtedly grow as more heat-related deaths are discovered, and as the heat continues.


Figure 3. The U.S. has seen twelve weather-related disasters costing at least $15 billion since 1980, according to NOAA's National Climatic Data Center. Two of the top three most expensive disasters have been droughts.

Tornadoes kill one, injure ten in Poland
A series of rare tornadoes hit northern and western Poland over the weekend, killing one and injuring ten. At least 100 homes were destroyed, and one of the twisters measured 1 km (0.6 miles) in diameter. Tornadoes are quite rare in Poland. According to the publication, An updated estimate of tornado occurrence in Europe by Nikolai Dotzek (2003), Poland reports about two tornadoes per year, and probably has two more per year that are unreported. Thanks go to wunderground member beell for posting this link.


Video 1. Raw footage of the weekend tornadoes that hit Poland.

Jeff Masters

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Yes, I remember her. Evacuate the coast, rip currents today. She made me laugh. She was wild with her flee the coast for your safety comments. Don't believe she posted about anything else, ever. The one's who need to read about rip currents are the one's who don't. I've been in them off the Carolina coast and Florida coast. Rip currents off Lake Michigan can be so strong swimming back to the beach is literally impossible. Gotta tread and hope you get picked up. I swim at a professional level so I tested rip currents in the past when they weren't killer strong. Even moderate rips are something to deal with that can very quickly become life threatening. Ride em out, swim lateral until your out of the rip and then swim towards shore. Panic can make even very smart people forget that advise very quickly. Last time I intentionally entered dangerous currents was in Palm Coast, Florida four years ago when they had wicked ocean conditions. Even though I'm in great shape and can swim miles without fatigue the ocean really gave me a beating. After the rip took me out, the side currents were so strong that when I regained the beach I was well over a mile from where I entered. I'm not suggesting that anyone does this. I'm a rock climbing, snake catching, thrill seeker who is not afraid to put my butt on the line.
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Quoting MAweatherboy1:
The chances of seeing Ernesto off an East Coast trough split seem to be dwindling, not that they were ever that high... Here are phase analysis maps from the 0z GFS on three lows it forms...






All of them show that it'll likely be an extratropical cyclone.
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
Observed at: Toronto Pearson Int'l Airport
Date: 5:00 PM EDT Tuesday 17 July 2012
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 29.69 inches
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 15 miles
Air Quality Health Index: 4

Temperature: 95.7°F
Dewpoint: 69.6°F
Humidity: 43 %
Wind: WNW 19 gust 29 mph
Humidex: 111


Canada's heat index is different, more extreme. If it's 96 with a dew point of 70, our heat index is nowhere near 111
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U.S. Agriculture Department examines drought-related crop losses in Michigan

ONONDAGA, Mich. (AP) - U.S. Agriculture Department Undersecretary Michael Scuse has come to Michigan to examine the state's summer-drought related crop losses.

Scuse's tour Tuesday included a visit to the central Michigan farm of Jim Byrum, president of the Michigan Agri-Business Association.

After the stop at the farm in Onondaga, Byrum said the losses are "unprecedented and show how important it is that farmers have a strong safety net."

Scuse says it's important to pass the Farm Bill now before Congress. It has disaster relief programs that otherwise will expire Sept. 30.

The drought follows an earlier blow to Michigan's tree fruit industry.

Growers sustained devastating losses when a hard freeze followed an early thaw, wiping out much of the year's tart cherry and apple crop.
From WXYZ in Detroit
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Quoting Housequake:
Will moisture from Fabio reach SoCal, or will it fizzle out before then?

It's unfortunately going to fizzle out.
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The chances of seeing Ernesto off an East Coast trough split seem to be dwindling, not that they were ever that high... Here are phase analysis maps from the 0z GFS on three lows it forms...





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Observed at: Toronto Pearson Int'l Airport
Date: 5:00 PM EDT Tuesday 17 July 2012
Condition: Cloudy
Pressure: 29.69 inches
Tendency: rising
Visibility: 15 miles
Air Quality Health Index: 4

Temperature: 95.7°F
Dewpoint: 69.6°F
Humidity: 43 %
Wind: WNW 19 gust 29 mph
Humidex: 111
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No rain in my area in few days, but still 50% chance of thunderstorms everyday this week. I'm just glad I am only in D0 level (abnormally dry) of drought and not severe ones. I think everybody should be graceful whenever they get rains...
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Will moisture from Fabio reach SoCal, or will it fizzle out before then?
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Moderate risk of rip currents today.


I remember a few weeks back there was a lady on here that was always warning of rips . I miss her concerned attitude
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The National Weather Service in League City has issued a

* Urban and Small Stream Flood Advisory for...
central Harris County in southeast Texas...
southern Montgomery County in southeast Texas...

* until 545 PM CDT

* at 333 PM CDT... Doppler radar indicated heavy rain due to
a cluster of thunderstorms extending from Houston to The
Woodlands which is moving north around 10 mph. This cluster of
storms will likely cause Urban and Small Stream flooding in the
advisory area. Up to 2 inches of rain has fallen in the past hour.
An additional 1 to 2 inches of rain is likely in this area.

* Some locations that will experience minor flooding include
Houston... Spring... The Woodlands... Cloverleaf... South Houston...
Aldine... Galena Park... Jacinto City... Oak Ridge North... Shenandoah...
Chateau Woods and Woodloch.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

Excessive runoff from heavy rainfall will cause ponding of water
in urban areas... highways... streets and underpasses as well as
other poor drainage areas and low lying spots. Do not attempt to
travel across flooded roads. Find alternate routes. It takes only
a few inches of swiftly flowing water to carry vehicles away.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Moderate risk of rip currents today.
I'm just glad there haven't any report of drowning today...
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Not good...





It's possible 75% of Arkansas will be in exceptional drought in two weeks time.
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Here in Columbus, Wisconsin I've talked to numerous lifers over 80. They've never seen drought like this or brown lawns everywhere. Feel like I'm in St. Pete in the eighties again. Headed towards the second or third greatest crop loss in US history I'm afraid. Going to start planting palm trees here soon. After last winters, non winter; thinking they may just make it.
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Drought? Not here. My yard finally dried enough to mow for the 1st time in nearly 2 weeks. It has rained almost daily here (Denham Springs, La.) Anyone need cantaloupes or cucumbers? I'm tired of picking them.
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I think everyone on here is missing a point. We need to ask the Universe for an AOI not the NHC. How about we all meditate about one in the Atlantic and see if we can cause a swirl. They do say "lIfe is just a dream", so let's dream one up. Doesn't have to be big, just something to bring rain where needed. Anyway, time for me to go. Ya'll stay safe, dry and cool. Until tomorrow.
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Quoting oddspeed:

we had our fair share of 100+ crazy heat last month and then July turns into one of the coolest and wettest summer months since probably 1976.... looks like you guys will be getting some relief from the heat soon with that cold front coming in.
The front is a slooow mover and relief doesn't come until tomorrow. Hopefully I get severe wx with 1" hail, and 60mph winds and have a cool next few days. I'm was just outside with a few friends and now im sweating like crazy. PWS recording 102F with a 106F heat index.
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Just an observation: If atmospheric water vapor increases by 10% every 1 F temperature increase, wouldn't that contribute to the formation of thunderstorms in places that historically not get that much rain?

What IMO would have the most climatic consequences about the melting polar caps is not that much sea level rise, but the huge amounts of frigid ice-melt water being introduced (especially this summer around the Arctic Circle) into the oceanic conveyor currents.
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Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:


We may get rain starting tommorow.

A FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
349 PM AST TUE JUL 17 2012

.SYNOPSIS...TUTT AXIS WILL CONTINUE TO REALIGN THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS AS EMBEDDED LOW MOVES WEST SOUTHWEST ACROSS AND THEN WEST OF
THE FA. A WEAK INDUCED LOW TO MID LEVEL TROUGH WILL MOVE ACROSS
THE LOCAL AREA LATE TONIGHT THROUGH EARLY WEDNESDAY...FOLLOWED BY
A SECOND TROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY. A TROPICAL WAVE
IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO THE EASTERN CARIBBEAN LATE THURSDAY
NIGHT THROUGH EARLY FRIDAY...AND SHOULD AFFECT THE LOCAL ISLANDS
LATER FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH MUCH OF SATURDAY.

&&

.DISCUSSION...THE REALIGNING TUTT SHOULD BE IN A PRETTY DECENT
LOCATION TO AID IN CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT LATE TONIGHT AND
ESPECIALLY WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY...BUT PROBABLY THE BEST
DYNAMICS WILL BE TOMORROW. AT THE SAME TIME...A WEAK INDUCED LOW
TO MID LEVEL TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED MOISTURE WILL MOVE ACROSS THE
LOCAL AREA LATE TONIGHT THROUGH EARLY WEDNESDAY AND WILL COMBINE
WITH LOCAL EFFECTS TO PRODUCE SOME CLOUDINESS...SHOWERS AND A
COUPLE OF THUNDERSTORMS. A SECOND TUTT INDUCED TROUGH AND
ASSOCIATED MOISTURE WILL PASS WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY...
PRODUCING ADDITIONAL CLOUDINESS...SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS.
THEREAFTER...A TROPICAL WAVE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO THE EASTERN
CARIBBEAN LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH EARLY FRIDAY...AND SHOULD
AFFECT THE LOCAL ISLANDS LATER FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH
MUCH OF SATURDAY. THIS WAVE AND ASSOCIATED MOISTURE MAY RESULT IN
AN ADDITIONAL EXTENDED PERIOD OF CLOUDINESS...SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE FA DURING THIS TIME FRAME...AND IF SO...
LATER FORECASTS WILL NEED TO RAMP UP THE AMOUNT OF ACTIVE WEATHER
IN THE GRIDS AND PRODUCTS. AN OVERALL DRIER...MORE STABLE AND
SAHARAN DUST SHROUDED AIR MASS IS EXPECTED TO ENCOMPASS THE LOCAL
AREA SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY.




Thanks :) I hope they are right.. because all I see now it dusty skies with suffering vegetation.
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Rosemary Beach FL today:
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819. MTWX
Quoting oddspeed:

we had our fair share of 100+ crazy heat last month and then July turns into one of the coolest and wettest summer months since probably 1976.... looks like you guys will be getting some relief from the heat soon with that cold front coming in.


Another day of pop-up storms barely missing us here!!

Current Temp: 93
Heat Index: 104
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TROPICAL STORM FABIO DISCUSSION NUMBER 24
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP062012
200 PM PDT TUE JUL 17 2012

FABIO CONTINUES TO GRADUALLY WEAKEN...HOWEVER IT IS STILL PRODUCING
AN AREA OF WEAK TO MODERATE CONVECTION OVER THE NORTHEASTERN
PORTION OF THE CIRCULATION. DVORAK T-NUMBERS ARE SLOWING
DECREASING AND THE INITIAL WIND SPEED IS LOWERED TO 35 KT FOR THIS
ADVISORY. INCREASING SHEAR...COOL WATERS...AND AN UNFAVORABLE
THERMODYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT SHOULD CAUSE FABIO TO WEAKEN TO A
TROPICAL DEPRESSION SOON...AND DEGENERATE TO A REMNANT LOW WITHIN
THE NEXT 12 TO 18 HOURS. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST AND THE GLOBAL
MODELS SHOW THE CYCLONE DISSIPATING WELL WEST OF THE CENTRAL COAST
OF THE BAJA PENINSULA IN 2 TO 3 DAYS.

FABIO IS STILL MOVING NORTHWARD...ALBEIT AT A SLIGHTLY SLOWER
SPEED THAN BEFORE. THE CYCLONE IS FORECAST TO MOVE NORTHWARD TO
NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD AT 6 TO 8 KT UNTIL DISSIPATION. THE UPDATED
TRACK FORECAST IS SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY AND IS CLOSE
TO...BUT A LITTLER SLOWER THAN...THE GFS MODEL.

MID- TO UPPER-LEVEL MOISTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THE REMNANTS OF FABIO
IS STILL EXPECTED TO SPREAD NORTHWARD ACROSS PORTIONS OF SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO. THIS MOISTURE COULD ENHANCE
THE RAINFALL POTENTIAL ACROSS THAT REGION.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 17/2100Z 23.0N 120.7W 35 KT 40 MPH
12H 18/0600Z 24.2N 120.5W 30 KT 35 MPH
24H 18/1800Z 25.7N 120.2W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
36H 19/0600Z 27.0N 119.7W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
48H 19/1800Z 28.0N 119.0W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
72H 20/1800Z...DISSIPATED

$$
FORECASTER BROWN
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BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM FABIO ADVISORY NUMBER 24
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP062012
200 PM PDT TUE JUL 17 2012

...FABIO WEAKENING...EXPECTED TO BECOME A REMNANT LOW EARLY
WEDNESDAY...


SUMMARY OF 200 PM PDT...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...23.0N 120.7W
ABOUT 685 MI...1105 KM W OF THE SOUTHERN TIP OF BAJA CALIFORNIA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...N OR 360 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1004 MB...29.65 INCHES
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Quoting Stormchaser2007:
Pathetic.

That's all I have to say.

(They didn't event get the numbering right)



Atlantic is often pathetic lol
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TS Khanun:



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Quoting CaribBoy:


lool I'm bored with the dusttttttttttttttt WHERE IS THE RAIN!!! :)


We may get rain starting tommorow.

A FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
349 PM AST TUE JUL 17 2012

.SYNOPSIS...TUTT AXIS WILL CONTINUE TO REALIGN THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS AS EMBEDDED LOW MOVES WEST SOUTHWEST ACROSS AND THEN WEST OF
THE FA. A WEAK INDUCED LOW TO MID LEVEL TROUGH WILL MOVE ACROSS
THE LOCAL AREA LATE TONIGHT THROUGH EARLY WEDNESDAY...FOLLOWED BY
A SECOND TROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY. A TROPICAL WAVE
IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO THE EASTERN CARIBBEAN LATE THURSDAY
NIGHT THROUGH EARLY FRIDAY...AND SHOULD AFFECT THE LOCAL ISLANDS
LATER FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH MUCH OF SATURDAY.

&&

.DISCUSSION...THE REALIGNING TUTT SHOULD BE IN A PRETTY DECENT
LOCATION TO AID IN CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT LATE TONIGHT AND
ESPECIALLY WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY...BUT PROBABLY THE BEST
DYNAMICS WILL BE TOMORROW. AT THE SAME TIME...A WEAK INDUCED LOW
TO MID LEVEL TROUGH AND ASSOCIATED MOISTURE WILL MOVE ACROSS THE
LOCAL AREA LATE TONIGHT THROUGH EARLY WEDNESDAY AND WILL COMBINE
WITH LOCAL EFFECTS TO PRODUCE SOME CLOUDINESS...SHOWERS AND A
COUPLE OF THUNDERSTORMS. A SECOND TUTT INDUCED TROUGH AND
ASSOCIATED MOISTURE WILL PASS WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY...
PRODUCING ADDITIONAL CLOUDINESS...SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS.
THEREAFTER...A TROPICAL WAVE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO THE EASTERN
CARIBBEAN LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH EARLY FRIDAY...AND SHOULD
AFFECT THE LOCAL ISLANDS LATER FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH
MUCH OF SATURDAY. THIS WAVE AND ASSOCIATED MOISTURE MAY RESULT IN
AN ADDITIONAL EXTENDED PERIOD OF CLOUDINESS...SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE FA DURING THIS TIME FRAME...AND IF SO...
LATER FORECASTS WILL NEED TO RAMP UP THE AMOUNT OF ACTIVE WEATHER
IN THE GRIDS AND PRODUCTS. AN OVERALL DRIER...MORE STABLE AND
SAHARAN DUST SHROUDED AIR MASS IS EXPECTED TO ENCOMPASS THE LOCAL
AREA SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY.


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Quoting Bluestorm5:
Just saw this on Twitter... wow.

@breakingweather

Carolina Beach Ocean Rescue reported 32 rescues today due to rip currents in New Hanover, NC.

Moderate risk of rip currents today.
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


we wanted a proper invest not a skip a few numbers wimpy swirl
Story of our WU lives, how bout I want a good invest that should be numbered unlike 91L.
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762) Bird's Point Levee if you want info on the breached area - Lots of damage in the main channel near breach, not so sure farther away. '93 was year of the flood on Missouri and Upper Mississippi that overflowed many of the levees. Was at Riverport for the concert Mellencamp had organized for flood relief when Chesterfield Valley levee gave way and had to cancel concert so I-70 wasn't backed up around Riverport, same day the old farmhouse south of StL got washed away that is often shown on TV.
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30% risk on Day 2... Not bad.

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Quoting wxchaser97:
I'm in the 102F part, it is crazy hot outside.

we had our fair share of 100+ crazy heat last month and then July turns into one of the coolest and wettest summer months since probably 1976.... looks like you guys will be getting some relief from the heat soon with that cold front coming in.
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Quoting Neapolitan:
Lesson #1: All you need to know about this forum to understand some of the people here.

This forum for the past three weeks:

"I'm bored. We need an invest."
"This place is slow. We need an invest."
"We need an invest. What is the NHC waiting for?"
"When are we going to get an invest? We need an invest."
"I would really love to track a single little invest, even one that has no chance. We need an invest ASAP."
"I can't stand summer! We need an invest!"
"Things need to pick up before El Nino arrives. We need an invest now!"
"We really need an invest."
"We need an invest."
"We need an invest."
"We need an invest..."
"What's wrong with the folks at the NHC??!?"

This forum since 91L was declared a few hours ago:

"The NHC numbered that?!"
"Wait--that's an invest?"
"Is this a joke? Why would the NHC call that an invest?"
"That invest has no chance. Why did the NHC give it a number?"
"What's wrong with the folks at the NHC??!?"

;-)


lool I'm bored with the dusttttttttttttttt WHERE IS THE RAIN!!! :)
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Quoting Neapolitan:
Lesson #1: All you need to know about this forum to understand some of the people here.

This forum for the past three weeks:

"I'm bored. We need an invest."
"This place is slow. We need an invest."
"We need an invest. What is the NHC waiting for?"
"When are we going to get an invest? We need an invest."
"I would really love to track a single little invest, even one that has no chance. We need an invest ASAP."
"I can't stand summer! We need an invest!"
"Things need to pick up before El Nino arrives. We need an invest now!"
"We really need an invest."
"We need an invest."
"We need an invest."
"We need an invest..."
"What's wrong with the folks at the NHC??!?"

This forum since 91L was declared a few hours ago:

"The NHC numbered that?!"
"Wait--that's an invest?"
"Is this a joke? Why would the NHC call that an invest?"
"That invest has no chance. Why did the NHC give it a number?"
"What's wrong with the folks at the NHC??!?"

;-)


we wanted a proper invest not a skip a few numbers wimpy swirl
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Lesson #1: All you need to know about this forum to understand some of the people here.

This forum for the past three weeks:

"I'm bored. We need an invest."
"This place is slow. We need an invest."
"We need an invest. What is the NHC waiting for?"
"When are we going to get an invest? We need an invest."
"I would really love to track a single little invest, even one that has no chance. We need an invest ASAP."
"I can't stand summer! We need an invest!"
"Things need to pick up before El Nino arrives. We need an invest now!"
"We really need an invest."
"We need an invest."
"We need an invest."
"We need an invest..."
"What's wrong with the folks at the NHC??!?"

This forum since 91L was declared a few hours ago:

"The NHC numbered that?!"
"Wait--that's an invest?"
"Is this a joke? Why would the NHC call that an invest?"
"That invest has no chance. Why did the NHC give it a number?"
"What's wrong with the folks at the NHC??!?"

;-)
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804. MTWX
Earth's magnetic field is still reverberating from the CME strike of July 14th. This morning, July 17th, at 1:00 am CDT, Shawn Malone witnessed one of the aftershocks over Lake Superior:

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Daniel the prophet told of a "world-wide web" that would come before the end. Not trying to push religion, just saying this was a pretty good call on his part. Computers make us far less intellectual and far more selfish and less able to communicate. Too bad the universal message is, computers make us more important and smarter. US test scores tells us which one is accurate. Fifty years ago we still had families in America too, that didn't hurt any.
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Quoting oddspeed:
epic temperature gradient in Michigan right now. The range is 68 to 102, that is probably some sort of record.
I'm in the 102F part, it is crazy hot outside.
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Just saw this on Twitter... wow.

@breakingweather

Carolina Beach Ocean Rescue reported 32 rescues today due to rip currents in New Hanover, NC.
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Quoting RitaEvac:


Actually I was doing this when Debby's track did a 180 in the gulf



No, that would be this one:

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Big rain today
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Quoting ARiot:


"Winter is coming"

Do you guys talk about Nor'Easters when the tropics shut down? Or is it random weather stuff like now?

(curious)

When I lived up east, being from the south, I always considered big winter storms the same as tropical systems and heavy gulf moisture back home. Just colder and a little more slick :-)

Yeah we talk some about noreasters and other weather events.... and occasionaly politics pops its head up but the political talk doesnt last long
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