Russian wildfire smoke reaches Canada, U.S.; Death Valley hits 128°F

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:29 PM GMT on July 12, 2012

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The U.S. isn't the only country suffering from a severe wildfire season. Russian firefighters have been battling huge blazes in Siberia for months. Central Russia experienced record warm temperatures 11 - 12°F (6 - 7°C) above average during June, feeding fires that have burned more area in 2012 than in 2010--the year of the unprecedented heat wave that killed over 55,000 people. Smoke from this summer's Russian fires rose high into the atmosphere last week, and got caught in the jet stream. As University of Washington professor Dr. Cliff Mass explained in this blog, the strong winds of the jet stream carried the smoke to western North America this week, where sinking air associated with a strong area of high pressure brought the smoke to the surface. On Wednesday, CBC reported that the smoke had settled over Vancouver, British Columbia, reducing visibility and increasing air pollution. Meteorologist Eric Taylor of the B.C. Ministry of Environment said he had never seen ozone pollution levels as high in B.C.'s central Interior as occurred over the past few days. The smoke has created colorful sunsets from Oregon to British Columbia, but a low pressure system is expected to flush most of the smoke out by Friday.


Figure 1. Thick smoke from forest fires burning in Siberia on July 5, 2012 (left) and July 9, 2012 (right.) Image credit: NASA.


Figure 2. The view from West Vancouver, British Columbia on Wednesday was obscured by thick smoke from forest fires burning in Siberia. Image credit: ThemeGreen's Webcam.

Colorado's most destructive wildfire in its history finally contained
It's been another severe year for wildfires in the U.S., with the National Interagency Fire Center reporting 4800 square miles of burned acreage thus far in 2012, an area about 87% of the size of Connecticut. This is pretty close to the 10-year average for this point in the year, and ranks as the fourth highest of the past ten years. However, with summer not yet half over, and more than 2/3 of the Western U.S. experiencing moderate to extreme drought, the Western U.S. fire season still has plenty of time to add significant acreage to its burn total. The hardest-hit state at present is Idaho, where one-third of the country's large fires (twelve) are burning. The worst fires of 2012 so far have been in Colorado, which had its hottest and driest June since record keeping began in 1895. Colorado's most destructive wildfire in its history, the 29-square mile Waldo Canyon fire, was finally 100% contained on Wednesday, aided by a week of relatively cool and wet weather. The fire killed two people and destroyed nearly 350 houses when it burned into northwestern Colorado Springs. Colorado's second most destructive and second largest fire in recorded history was the High Park Fire, fifteen miles northwest of Fort Collins. The fire was 100% contained on June 30. According to the Denver Post, the High Park Fire burned in an area where 70% of the trees that have been killed by mountain pine beetles; the insects have devastated forests in western North America in recent years. So did pine beetle damage contribute to this year's devastating Colorado fires? Using Landsat satellite data, a team of scientists led by University of Wisconsin forest ecologist Phil Townsend have discovered that pine beetle damage appears not to have a significant impact in the risk of large fires, and may reduce fire risk in some instances (Video 1.)


Video 1. Wildfire and Pine Beetles: NASA explains how recent devastation of forests in the Rocky Mountains by the mountain pine beetle may be affecting wildfire odds.

Links to follow
Our climate change blogger, Dr. Ricky Rood, has a post on mountain pine beetles and climate change.

I have a post on how climate change is expected to increase Western U.S. fires.

Welcome to the Rest of Our Lives, an 8-minute video put together by climate change videographer Peter SInclair, provides a dramatic look at the extreme weather that has hit the U.S. in June and July.

Our climate change blogger, Dr. Ricky Rood, is in Boulder, Colorado this summer, and had this to say in his June 27 post on the wildfires in Colorado: "The past few days have been relentless. Denver has seen temperatures above 100°F for 5 straight days, and it was 105° today. At the weather station closest to where I live, the thunderstorm that started today’s fire stopped the temperature rise at 97.5 F. The dew point was in the high 30s. The ground temperature in the garden was about 110°. Tonight it all smells of smoke again. It is hard to sleep when the house is 88 degrees and the air smells of smoke. You constantly think of fire."

Death Valley hits 128°: 10th hottest temperature in U.S. history
The high temperature in Death Valley, California hit 128°F (53.3°C) on Wednesday, the hottest temperature measured in the U.S. since July 18, 2009, when Death Valley recorded another 128° reading. Yesterday's 128° was the 10th hottest temperature in U.S. history. The only hotter temperatures were all measured at Death Valley, the most recent one being the 129° measured on July 6, 2007. The all-time high for Death Valley is the 134° reading of July 10, 1913. The forecast for Death Valley calls for a slow cool-down over the next few days, with highs reaching "only" 105° on Monday. That's the date of the start of the grueling Badwater Ultramarathon. Covering 135 miles (217km) non-stop from Death Valley to Mt. Whitney, CA, it is the most demanding and extreme running race offered anywhere on the planet. Lace up your running shoes (not!)

Jeff Masters

Going down, (Glaswegian)
on a hot and humid July evening
Going down,
Workday Sunrise (HarveyCreek)
Going out to the car to head to work, I saw this great sunrise and had to take the time to capture it. This is a panoramic rendition.
Workday Sunrise

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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

It can affect the power grid, navigation system, and airline communication (If it was a very strong one, flights will be cancelled due to the fear of radiation) and more.

On a good note, the auroras may be seen as far south as 35 °N Saturday night.
My dad's in the air right now on a business trip. Hope the flare wasn't too strong.
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000
AXPZ20 KNHC 122159
TWDEP

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
2205 UTC THU JUL 12 2012

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR THE EASTERN PACIFIC OCEAN FROM
THE EQUATOR TO 32N...EAST OF 140W. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS
BASED ON SATELLITE IMAGERY...WEATHER OBSERVATIONS...RADAR...AND
METEOROLOGICAL ANALYSIS.

BASED ON 1800 UTC SURFACE ANALYSIS AND SATELLITE IMAGERY THROUGH
2100 UTC.

...SPECIAL FEATURES...
HURRICANE EMILIA AT 15.1N 122.4W MOVING W AT 10 KT WITH MAXIMUM
WIND 90 WITH GUSTS TO 110 KT. NUMEROUS MODERATE TO STRONG
CONVECTION WITHIN 60 NM E AND 150 NM W SEMICIRCLES. EMILIA
WEAKENS AS IT MOVES W OVER COOLER WATERS AND INCREASED VERTICAL
WIND SHEAR...BECOMES TROPICAL STORM FRI NIGHT...THEN DISSIPATES
AS POST-TROPICAL LOW W OF 140W EARLY NEXT WEEK.
SEE LATEST NHC FORECAST/ADVISORY UNDER AWIPS/WMO HEADER
MIATCMEP5/WTPZ25 KNHC FOR MORE DETAILS.

TROPICAL STORM FABIO AT 14.2N 108.3W MOVING W AT 9 KT WITH
MAXIMUM WIND 45 WITH GUSTS TO 55 KT. NUMEROUS MODERATE TO
STRONG CONVECTION WITHIN 240 NM S AND 90 NM N SEMICIRCLES.
FABIO EXPECTED TO INTENSIFY AND BECOME A HURRICANE BY FRI NIGHT
AS IT TURN TO A MORE NW TRACK THROUGH SAT. SEE LATEST NHC
FORECAST/ADVISORY UNDER AWIPS/WMO HEADER MIATCMEP1/WTPZ21 KNHC
FOR MORE DETAILS.

...INTERTROPICAL CONVERGENCE ZONE/MONSOON TROUGH...DISCONTINUOUS
MONSOON TROUGH EXTENDS FROM 09N84W TO 11N99W AND FROM 12N118W TO
05N131W THEN ITCZ EXTENDS TO BEYOND 06N140W. SCATTERED MODERATE
CONVECTION WITHIN 240 NM S OF AXIS E OF 90W. SCATTERED MODERATE
CONVECTION WITHIN 45 NM S OF AXIS FROM 118W TO 126W.

...DISCUSSION...
UPPER LEVEL CYCLONE AT 31N123W HAS SHARP TROUGH EXTEND TO
10N140W THEN TO SECOND CYCLONE AT 05N143W. VERY DRU AIR MASS
UNDER TROUGH AND UPSTREAM RIDGE. DOWNSTREAM ANTICYCLONE 23N114W
FEEDS FLOW OF GULF OF MEXICO MOISTURE INTO AREA WHERE FABIO IS
DEVELOPING. UPPER LEVEL DIVERGENCE IMPROVES OVER FABIO NOW THAT
EMILIA OUTFLOW HAS DIMINISHED.

SURFACE HIGH PRES CENTER 1026 MB N OF AREA AT 35N140W WITH RIDGE
EXTENDING SE TO 20N120W. TIGHT PRES GRADIENT BETWEEN RIDGE AND
HURRICANE EMILIA FORCES SWATH OF FRESH NE WINDS AND SEAS TO 10
FT N OF 25N W OF 135W.

WINDS FUNNELING THROUGH CENTRAL AMERICA INTO GULF OF PAPAGAYO
PULSE TO 20 KT WITH SEAS BARELY REACHING 7-8 FT THROUGH SUN.

$$
WALLY BARNES

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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


stars are still great alone.
weather should be great!!!!


Do you use a telescope? Or?
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That developing El Nino just took one right on the chin.

Should take a few weeks to recover from this one...

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Quoting scott39:
The AOI moving W off of Fl. around Tampa, has 24 to 48 hour window to work down to the surface and develope into at least a TD. IMO

I think that VA guy with a girlfriend was referencing that AOI as spinning up and heading N and E to drench GA and the Carolinas.
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Quoting TampaFLUSA:

Whole foods is expensive.

On the foods subject:-
Its easy for the average person to grow just something in their home environment. I was once living in a damp basement and I grew mushrooms in damp soil and wood dust inside a cupboard and chilies in a plant pot.
Really even a grow bag of good soil on a terrace or even a window box will grow tomatoes or peppers, sweet or hot and a few square yards can be dedicated to potatoes or lettuces.
When people started to move en masse to the towns and cities they severed their links to most of nature, the supermarket has replaced the garden and very few people know any more what a growing fruit or vegetable looks like in the wild.
Humanity has gone a long way down the road to a state of insular unawareness in the last 60 years.
This is probably a one way journey and "hunting in shops," is now the predominant ocupation for those surviving the cities.
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Super cell over Kansas. Credit goes to Camille Seaman.

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Quoting stormchaser19:


why?

It can affect the power grid, navigation system, and airline communication (If it was a very strong one, flights will be cancelled due to the fear of radiation) and more.

On a good note, the auroras may be seen as far south as 35 °N Saturday night.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Was a CME associated with this flare? If so, we may have some problems.



why?
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625. auburn (Mod)
WOW..I so want to ask if ya think Sarah Palin can see the smoke...but I wont cause I dont want to get banned..so all I will say is...

Nice Blog Dr.Masters and thank you for the info.
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The AOI moving W off of Fl. around Tampa, has 24 to 48 hour window to work down to the surface and develope into at least a TD. IMO
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Quoting BahaHurican:


Well, the Yucatan low is a done deal, it's coupled with the sfc low. Now, the track.. probably just S of Brownsville tomorrow night or Sat morn. Will probably have a decent-sized footprint and long/thick rainbands, except in NE quad where the high at TL/LA will compress them.

More buckets for Falcon Lake, which got 13" just last week. Good rain should stretch to San Antonio, but fall just short of Austin, as usual, but serving to de-stabilize the atmos in our favor.
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Was a CME associated with this flare? If so, we may have some problems.

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Quoting WxGeekVA:


Why is it that people are so fed up with their government and yet they still vote the same people in every year? Why don't they just do something drastic, and, I dunno, vote for someone from a third party that doesn't have to stick to a uncompromising party line?

Precisely; the reason of course is fear of a wasted vote - its typically a long shot for an independant to win. As for congressional races, people are influenced by the local campaign and 'convinced' their guy is the one good one - even though the rest of the country sees the problems he/she creates. Really wish we could find some candidates that acted in the interest of the country - not whatever it takes to get a bill passed (or their next election!) There are plenty of arguments for term limits around; but think of it this way: with mandatory MINIMUM terms - these guys would know they'd be stuck fixing the problems they create. Things just might get done differently. What might any of you do today, if you knew you would not have to deal with the aftermath tomorrow?
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BTW, if you have some free time, there's some absolutely great imagery / pictures in the WunderGallery... you should check them out sometime....
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Quoting stormchaser19:
Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:


As long the wet upward MJO stays in the Indian Ocean for now,no new Kelvin Wave will occur transporting the warm waters that can put El Nino officially in the


remains to be seen how strong will be, for example this week every region comes down



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Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:


As long the wet upward MJO stays in the Indian Ocean for now,no new Kelvin Wave will occur transporting the warm waters that can put El Nino officially in the

remains to be seen how strong will, for example this week every region comes down



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546 Tazmanian: Why do you always have to bold the 'from's and the 'to's?

After thinking about it, I guess I could drop bolding the 'from's.
Makes it easier to skip over some of the reading.
Most of the people that read the stuff already know what most of that section says. The only new information is after the 'from's and after the 'to's.
ie All they need to read is the
"13.4mph(21.5km/h) dueWest to 11.2mph(18km/h) dueWest"
"100knots(115mph)185km/h to 90knots(104mph)167km/h"
"960millibars to 965millibars"

For regular readers, the rest of it might as well be ("blah blah blah" or) entirely missing.
BUT
I still hafta keep including the
"Its vector had changed"
"MaxSusWinds had decreased"
"And minimum pressure had increased"

before those quantities so that new readers will know what the heck I'm talking about.
SO
I've been using bold* to let regulars know what they can skip.

Most of the writing included with the mappings is for the newcomers.
How many times do folks need to be told that "The longest line is the straightline projection..."?
But there will always be new newcomers, so...

* I just bolded 'bold' so that folks unfamiliar with the lingo would know what we were discussing.
Similarly, I'll use eg 'TropicalStorm' in a comment before using 'TS'.

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Quoting kmanislander:
Good afternoon

This is quite an impressive low that would be a potential for development if dry air and shear was not so abundant in its vicinity. The CV season should soon be open for business once the SAL lifts out and the ITCZ pulls more to the North.

It's a mid to upper level low...nothing much at the low levels.

Agreed about the SAL and ITCZ being unfavorable. The downward phase of the MJO, a strong subtropical ridge over the Atlantic are the main reasons for the lackluster ITCZ and tropical waves over the Atlantic.
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Quoting TampaFLUSA:

Whole foods is expensive.

Not for the EBT crowd, it's free. Move that market into non-GMOs and you end GMOs. All politics is local. The opportunity is there, if a movement REALLY wanted to make it happen.
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Quoting redwagon:

Or why don't people just shop at Whole Foods, and get all their family and friends shopping with them, and let the marketplace destroy GMOs? Instant results instead of years and years of replacing congressmen and women.

Whole foods is expensive.
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Quoting Civicane49:


As long the wet upward MJO stays in the Indian Ocean for now,no new Kelvin Wave will occur transporting the warm waters that can put El Nino officially in the Pacific.
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MJO current conditions. Green is upward MJO. Brown is downward MJO.

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Quoting redwagon:


Actually I must revise: the Low over the Yucatan's center is exactly on the Northern border of the yuk. You can see the SW sfc low waiting to pick up the rope.
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610. MTWX
Quoting PalmBeachWeather:
MTWX...A good friend grows just like you...He gives me many vegetables from his garden....My favorite is the Cherokee Purple tomato... so good


I use those for my fresh tomato needs. I also like Morgage Lifter for making sauces. They are not too acidic, are very meaty, and are much more flavorful then the Roma varieties most people use.
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Quoting redwagon:


So are we saying we don't have the will to avoid GMOs?
And de-fund those who force them on us? You can use food stamps at Whole Foods, as far as I know. Why not turn the EBT group onto natural foods to accelerate the demise of GMOs?
Not really. I'm just listing the three main reasons why people just "go with the flow" i.e. GMOs. There are a lot of pple out there who don't have much to motivate them to do anything differently than they always have...
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Quoting Civicane49:
I keep looking at the imagery and thinking, "So how much more moist conditions would we be seeing if the MJO was in our basin?"
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Quoting BahaHurican:

1. Habit
2. Cost
3. Advertizing


So are we saying we don't have the will to avoid GMOs?
And de-fund those who force them on us? You can use food stamps at Whole Foods, as far as I know. Why not turn the EBT group onto natural foods to accelerate the demise of GMOs?
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Quoting MTWX:


That's why I grow heirloom vegetables... I know exactly what goes into them, and I recycle the seeds every year. I use no pesticides or fertilizer on anything... Works fine for my family of 5... Only thing it costs me is the water during dry spells lasting 2 weeks or more (rain barrels collect enough to keep it watered about a week).
MTWX...A good friend grows just like you...He gives me many vegetables from his garden....My favorite is the Cherokee Purple tomato... so good
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Looks like another rainy evening in store for much of the Bahamas.





Is the ULL east of us supposed to head west or north?
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Quoting carcar1967:


And neither should unions.


i would gladly watch unions give up influence over any of the legislative process if the same applied to business. just look at how lopsided the lobbying system is. business owns Capitol hill.
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Quoting MTWX:


That's why I grow heirloom vegetables... I know exactly what goes into them, and I recycle the seeds every year. I use no pesticides or fertilizer on anything... Works fine for my family of 5... Only thing it costs me is the water during dry spells lasting 2 weeks or more (rain barrels collect enough to keep it watered about a week).
And why I've begun a small spice garden of my own... I can't afford the grocery store versions of the exotic non-Bahamian stuff, and it's pretty easy to grow your own if you don't mind getting outside for a little watering and weeding.
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601. MTWX
Quoting WxGeekVA:


Because then Whole Foods will get a lot of money and influence and soon they would start working at politics...

Also, it is economically unfeasible because it costs much less to buy food at say Wal-Mart than at an organic store such as Whole Foods and people can't afford it.


That's why I grow heirloom vegetables... I know exactly what goes into them, and I recycle the seeds every year. I use no pesticides or fertilizer on anything... Works fine for my family of 5... Only thing it costs me is the water during dry spells lasting 2 weeks or more (rain barrels collect enough to keep it watered about a week).
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Quoting pcola57:




what's that ?
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Quoting yoboi:


look at what is suppose to happen on 12-12-12 at 12-12-12am..




Crapola!! That's my birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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Quoting redwagon:

Or why don't people just shop at Whole Foods, and get all their family and friends shopping with them, and let the marketplace destroy GMOs? Instant results instead of years and years of replacing congressmen and women.


Because then Whole Foods will get a lot of money and influence and soon they would start working at politics...

Also, it is economically unfeasible because it costs much less to buy food at say Wal-Mart than at an organic store such as Whole Foods and people can't afford it.
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Quoting redwagon:

Or why don't people just shop at Whole Foods, and get all their family and friends shopping with them, and let the marketplace destroy GMOs? Instant results instead of years and years of replacing congressmen and women.

1. Habit
2. Cost
3. Advertizing
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Quoting WxGeekVA:


Why is it that people are so fed up with their government and yet they still vote the same people in every year? Why don't they just do something drastic, and, I dunno, vote for someone from a third party that doesn't have to stick to a uncompromising party line?

Or why don't people just shop at Whole Foods, and get all their family and friends shopping with them, and let the marketplace destroy GMOs? Instant results instead of years and years of replacing congressmen and women.
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I find this talk of GMO's and the corporate influence interesting. A good thing to discuss while the tropics are quiet. My visceral reaction has always been against them. I'd prefer if we grew food "as is". But, there's a part of me that questions whether we can feed the world without GMO, or pesticides... it's not like we can wait through famines for a heartier seed to develop. So, I'd suspect we do have to use at least the "safe" pesticides. Of course, we don't have enough years of data to determine what's really safe, if any of it.
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On the corporations. That's our common enemy, especially the large multi-national variety. Citizens United is exactly the opposite of what we should of done. Instead of letting their unlimited monies buy our politicians, influence our elections....we should clamp down and not allow any corporate money.
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Quoting pcola57:


JMO..
What nature has perfected does not need our interference..
Consequences of this "playing God" are yet to be known..
In no way do I dis-respect you by stating how I personally feel..
Thanks :)


This logically extends to intervening in the "natural process" with medical interventions. Though we see daily the consequences of medical interventions - a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't be making carbon footprints.
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590. MTWX
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


stop joining the denialists :)

science proves there is nothing wrong wit GMOS


Nothing wrong huh??

http://www.naturalnews.com/035734_GMOs_foods_dang ers.html

http://healthyfoodnaturally.com/2012/02/07/gmo-he alth-risks/
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589. CJ5
Quoting Naga5000:


The problem is not with unions or corporations, it's with allowing unlimited contributions as "free speech". What this essentially means is the more money you have, the more influence or free speech you can exert. This puts small business and individuals, especially middle and lower class, in a highly discriminatory system, where they do not have the funds to outspend a corporation and the corporations do not represent their common interest.

I have no issue with limited contributions.


You and so many other posters have the whole equation backwards. You just don't like the potential outcomes. If it is Green Peace or the Sierra Club spreading thier influence and money around it is ok, right?

Here is the bottom line: If your representative is passing bills that hurt or kill you it is your problem. If your representative is crooked enough to let money influence common sense, that is your problem. Vote them out!

We cannot have a corrupt system unless the representatives are corrupt. Fact!
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Quoting WxGeekVA:


Meh... It wouldn't be anywhere near as good as it would be if she was there with me... I'm just gonna blog all night instead.
This would be ok if it wasn't July, which is really great for dating and not so much for blogging...

Well, at least u know u have friends out there who will blog w/ u ...
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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


Your point is that if it is a corporation then it should be above the law! Laws are determined by governments. You do not want government intervention of a corporation in its ability to conduct business. So, by proxy, you are claiming that corporations should be above the law! Untouchable! Not answerable to anyone other than their shareholders! .... I do not know the proper word to use here and it probably just as well that I do not for I know I would use it!

Now, if I am wrong and this is not what you meant then explain what it is that you do mean.


no they are not above the law, but they should be able to support the candidates and legislation they support.

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Quoting WxGeekVA:


Meh... It wouldn't be anywhere near as good as it would be if she was there with me... I'm just gonna blog all night instead.


k,
well end this conversation now,
but that is why you dont get to closely involved with people and instead stay in many loosely involved relationships like i do.
never failed me yet
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