Extreme events of 2011: climate change a major factor in some, but not all

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 1:54 PM GMT on July 11, 2012

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The science of quantifying how climate change changes the odds of extreme weather events like droughts and floods took a major step forward Tuesday with the publication of NOAA's annual summary of the past year's weather. The 2011 State of the Climate report contains a separate peer-reviewed article published in the July issue of the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society titled, Explaining Extreme Events of 2011 From a Climate Perspective. In the paper, a group of scientists led by Peter Stott of the Met Office Centre in the United Kingdom looked at how climate change may have changed the odds of occurrence of some of 2011's notable weather extremes. These kinds of attribution studies require huge amounts of computer time and take many months to do, but the scientists plan to start making this a regular part of the annual NOAA State of the Climate report. Some of their findings for 2011:

- Determining the causes of extreme events remains difficult. While scientists cannot trace specific events to climate change with absolute certainty, new and continued research help scientists understand how the probability of extreme events change in response to global warming.

- La Niña-related heat waves, like that experienced in Texas in 2011, are now 20 times more likely to occur during La Niña years today than La Niña years fifty years ago.

- The UK experienced a very warm November 2011 and a very cold December 2010. In analyzing these two very different events, UK scientists uncovered interesting changes in the odds. Cold Decembers are now half as likely to occur now versus fifty years ago, whereas warm Novembers are now 62 times more likely.

- The devastating 2011 floods in Thailand caused an estimated $45 billion in damage, making it the world's most expensive river flooding disaster in history. The study found, however, that the amount of rain that fell in the catchment area was not very unusual, and that other factors such as human-caused changes to the flood plain and the movement of more people into flood-prone areas were more important in causing the disaster. "Climate change cannot be shown to have played any role in this event," the study concluded, but warned that climate models predict an increase in the probability of extreme precipitation events in the future in the region.

- The deadly drought in East Africa, which killed tens of thousands of people in 2011, was made more likely by warming waters in the Indian Ocean and Western Pacific. While the scientists did not specifically tie the warming of these waters to human-caused global warming, they noted that climate models predict continued warming of these waters in the coming decades, and this will likely "contribute to more frequent East African droughts during the spring and summer."


Figure 1. An SH-60F Sea Hawk helicopter assigned to Helicopter Anti-Submarine Squadron (HS) 14, flies around the Bangkok area with members of the humanitarian assessment survey team and the Royal Thai Armed Forces to assess the damage caused by the 2011 floods. Image credit: Petty Officer 1st Class Jennifer Villalovos.

Weather on steroids
One interesting aspect of the paper was the scientists' use of the baseball player-steroids analogy to help explain how climate change can increase the odds of extreme weather: "One analogy of the effects of climate change on extreme weather is with a baseball player (or to choose another sport, a cricketer) who starts taking steroids and afterwards hits on average 20% more home runs (or sixes) in a season than he did before (Meehl 2012). For any one of his home runs (sixes) during the years the player was taking steroids, you would not know for sure whether it was caused by steroids or not. But you might be able to attribute his increased number to the steroids. And given that steroids have resulted in a 20% increased chance that any particular swing of the player’s bat results in a home run (or a six), you would be able to make an attribution statement that, all other things being equal, steroid use had increased the probability of that particular occurrence by 20%. The job of the attribution assessment is to distinguish the effects of anthropogenic climate change or some other external factor (steroids in the sporting analogy) from natural variability (e.g., in the baseball analogy, the player’s natural ability to hit home runs or the configuration of a particular stadium)."



Video 1. National Center for Atmospheric Research scientist Dr. Jerry Meehl explains how climate change's impact on extreme weather is like how steroids affect a baseball player.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting caneswatch:


Bringing more politics on here?


Also I prefer to think of it as bringing the truth.
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12/0000 UTC 15.5N 143.0W TOO WEAK DANIEL -- Central Pacific
12/0000 UTC 13.1N 105.0W T1.5/1.5 98E -- East Pacific
12/0000 UTC 14.9N 118.6W T5.5/5.5 EMILIA -- East Pacific

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Quoting Civicane49:

Agreed.


Here's the paper in case anyone might want to read it.

It's clear that Ol' Pumped Up Joe didn't....

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Invest 98E:

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I think 98E may be a threat to Baja California and perhaps the SW US. It has a very large moisture field.

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Quoting caneswatch:


Bringing more politics on here?


How come no one ever says that to Nea?
Or Tom Taylor,
Or Bob Wallace?

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98E has gained enough organization to be declared as a tropical depression. Should see a renumber in an hour.
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Published on Jul 1, 2012 by Legend813a

The June 2012 Mid-Atlantic and Midwest derecho was an intense progressive derecho that tracked across a large section of the Midwestern United States and across the central Appalachians into the Mid-Atlantic States on the afternoon and evening of June 29, 2012 and into the early morning of June 30. It resulted in at least 12 deaths, widespread damage and millions of power outages across the entire affected region.

Storm overview

The thunderstorm complex which developed into a mesoscale convective system started as a small thunderstorm cell in central Iowa and continued into Illinois while mostly below severe limits at the time. Taking advantage of an extremely hot and highly unstable atmosphere with CAPE values in excess of 5,000 J/kg and temperatures on the south side of a stationary front well in excess of 100F (near 40C), it quickly intensified and the storms became severe as it crossed over the Chicagoland area early in the afternoon of June 29. As it tracked eastward into Indiana, wind gusts increased substantially, peaking as high as 91 mph (147 km/h) in Fort Wayne, equivalent to a high-end Category 1 hurricane, at least in gusts. By that time, the system had taken on a well-defined bow echo shape, the classic indicator of a derecho.

Moving east to east-southeast at about 60 mph (95 km/h) - a speed and trajectory that the derecho maintained for its entire lifespan - it followed the stationary front and increased in size as it entered Ohio in the mid-afternoon hours, affecting a large portion of the state. Since the derecho was clearly underway and expected to last a long time, the Storm Prediction Center increased the threat level to a moderate risk of severe weather at 3:37 p.m. EDT (1937 UTC) across Ohio, West Virginia and small portions of neighboring states, warning of the extreme wind threat. It crossed over Columbus shortly afterward, with winds reported to 72 mph (115 km/h) there, and winds in excess of 80 mph (128 km/h) reported at many other locations across the state. It maintained its intensity as it reached the Ohio River early in the evening, and the only known tornado associated with the system was also reported at the same time, which did minimal damage (in comparison) near Newcomerstown, Ohio at 6:20 p.m. EDT.

The derecho crossed the much more sparsely populated mountains of West Virginia and parts of extreme southwestern Pennsylvania and eastern Kentucky through the early evening hours. Despite the mountainous terrain and loss of daytime heating, the hot, humid air mass and high instability allowed the storms to maintain their high intensity throughout, even though the amount of energy decreased slightly (to a still-extreme 3,500 J/kg). They emerged into Virginia and Maryland later in the evening, where an even more unstable air mass awaited with CAPE values as high as 5,500 J/kg.

The derecho continued to expand as it crossed the Mid-Atlantic states late in the evening, impacting nearly all of Maryland and Virginia as well as Washington, D.C.. The most severe winds - reported as high as 87 mph (140 km/h) - were focused in the Baltimore-Washington metropolitan area and southwards towards Richmond. Widespread wind gusts over 70 mph (112 km/h), with some significantly higher, were reported across the large and heavily populated region. The damaging winds continued eastward across Chesapeake Bay towards the Atlantic Ocean, losing little strength despite the cooler marine layer. The derecho emerged into the Atlantic Ocean shortly before 2:00 a.m. on June 30, while still producing winds as high as 81 mph (130 km/h) right at the coast in New Jersey and strong and damaging winds on the Delmarva Peninsula. It dissipated in the pre-dawn hours south of Long Island.

Impact

Damage was widespread and extensive along the entire path of the derecho, especially in northern Indiana, central and western Ohio, Northeastern Kentucky, West Virginia, northern, central, and southwestern Virginia, Maryland, Washington, D.C., Delaware and southern New Jersey. In all the mentioned areas, many trees were uprooted or snapped, roofs were damaged, tents deployed to sell fireworks leading up to the 4th of July Holiday were collapsed, and power outages were extensive, with over 3.7 million customers losing power as a result. An Appalachian Power representative described the power outage as the worst the company had ever seen.



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Quoting MAweatherboy1:
I have to say, I found the tree ring study thing interesting...

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Agreed.
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Quoting CosmicEvents:
On the weather stations, check rainmanweather. They have whatever you need, and plus it's owned by WU paying members...they'll beat any price for WU members I would think.
And also give good support for installing and troubleshooting.
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On the weather stations, check rainmanweather. They have whatever you need, and plus it's owned by WU paying members...they'll beat any price for WU members I would think.
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Evening all...

Blog sounds too loud for this tired body tonight... maybe I'll check in later when Korithe and the late night crew make it in...

Just wanted to mention we had a couple-three 3-minute showers today, and largely overcast skies... made for a much more comfortable day temperature-wise than otherwise expected...

Enjoy ur evening, all.
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I have to say, I found the tree ring study thing interesting...

Link
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Quoting charlottefl:


Its a great station, and extremely accurate, but you have to spend like another $125 if you want the weather data logger to be able to upload to WU.
I know this is off-topic but what is the data logger need for uploading to WU. I got the Vue around 1-2 months ago and I want the software for my birthday. And now to keep on topic here is Emilia in 2 differen POVs.
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Out for now, later ya'll
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Quoting Neapolitan:
I've found through the years that the number of mentions of Al Gore's name in an internet article or blog post is almost always inversely proportional to the amount of intellectual honesty and/or scientific fact contained therein. This comment verifies that hypothesis.
lol +1 for Nea.


Quoting quasistationary:
Joe Bastardi ‏@BigJoeBastardi
Tree-ring study proves that climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times than it is in the modern
Why would anyone would follow Bastardi on Twitter? I can't think of a bigger waste of time and space.

But



(photo cred to TAWX13 lol)
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Quoting MAweatherboy1:
We may see a renumber around 10:30 or so... A lot of times they renumber systems a little while after a scheduled update, which is coming up... Looks like a TD to me...


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Hi all, just stopping bye. I see the Atlantic is still dead. No surprise when the MDR/CATL is completely shut down from the large scale subsidence occurring over the region. This has arisen partially from the downward phase of the MJO and partially from the strong ridging over the Atlantic. A strong Azores/Bermuda ridge increases the pressure gradient across the Atlantic between the ridge and the Columbian heat low. Stronger winds create surface divergence/make surface convergence hard to achieve. This makes it hard for waves to develop and promotes sinking air over the region.

This sinking air has has dried and warmed the mid levels of the atmosphere, reducing instability. The reduced instability limits convective activity of waves exiting Africa and activity within the ITCZ/monsoon trough. Limited convective activity has also allowed ULLs to dominate the Atlantic. Right now we have ULLs over the Gulf of Mexico, east of Florida, NE of Puerto Rico, and over the central Atlantic. Finally, the pattern over North America isn't favorable for trough splits or any mechanisms to lift the monsoon trough north.

200hPa velocity potential showing the upper convergence resulting in subsidence, which dries and warms the atmosphere reducing instability.




Right now the MJO is not very amplified but is currently hanging out over the Indian Ocean. Models diverge greatly on where the MJO will go but for the most part it looks like it will hang out around the Indian Ocean in a weakly amplified state for at least the next week, despite what the GFS has been forecasting for the last week (strong return of the MJO into our basin). For now we can watch the East Pacific, which should get another storm within the next day.


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Just a friendly reminder, please keep politics off this weather blog.
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Hurricane Emilia:

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Quoting PensacolaDoug:
they absolutely do not have the right to lie, manipulate, bribe, obfuscate, and cheat

Sounds like the democratic party and Obama and the way that they passed Obamacare.


Bringing more politics on here?
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I'm not to sure why my comment was removed....I had told people just because you want an active Atlantic doesn't mean you want death and destruction.

That's cool but I don't care for the current event.
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Quoting FSUCOOPman:
Sorry, if too off topic, but I'm looking to buy a weather station, and I was thinking about this one: Davis Instruments 6250 Vantage Vue Wireless

I'm ok with this being on the main blog, but if others don't like it, please private message me on your weather station experience or any makes or models you've bought or used.

my budget is less than $500 including mounting hardware.

Thanks, in advance...


Its a great station, and extremely accurate, but you have to spend like another $125 if you want the weather data logger to be able to upload to WU.
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Quoting Neapolitan:
Those corporations definitely have the right to pursue a profit--so long as they do so honestly, fairly, according to the rules, and as good citizens and stewards of the planet. But, notwithstanding the ridiculous and highly damaging Citizens United decision, they absolutely do not have the right to lie, manipulate, bribe, obfuscate, and cheat to get at that profit, nor do they have the right to destroy the environment we all share to do so. Some--mainly members of one political party--may think that's the way the Founding Fathers intended the game to be played, but rest assured that it is not.

There are many grey areas in politics, as there are in life. But some things are just flat out wrong, and no amount of spin or mewling about protecting the "job creators" will ever make it otherwise.


Yeah, you go NEA! CJ5 seems as ethically challenged as the corporations/persons he defends. Obfuscate--great word and why people in general have become so baffled about what exactly is true/false and good/evil. Historically, this is nothing new though and balance [hopefully] will win out.




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We may see a renumber around 10:30 or so... A lot of times they renumber systems a little while after a scheduled update, which is coming up... Looks like a TD to me...

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848. whitewabit (Mod)
check Rainman's blog for weather stations he will give you a great price and all the low down on the different models ...
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strong wind shear is present in mid atlantic , no chance to this low pressure in 10N40W to develop.



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Well good evening everyone, I feel better now, LOL.

I looked back to 2011 July and August, 62 days, 58 days were over 100, total rainfall .005.

July 2012 Austin Airport with 1.50 inches and Camp Mabry 1.87, my house 2.20.

Whatever happens rest of the Summer will be a piece of cake.

I hate heat and drought and really not a huge fan of floods either but it seems the U.S.A. Weather has turned into Weather of Extremes.

Have a great evening.
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Quoting Astrometeor:


I hate poetry too, but did okay at it when I wrote weather poetry last year for 10th grade. ;)
Emilia, make ANOTHER RUN AT CAT 4! that would be great. Prolong it for a little while longer while we wait on that invest to develop.
It would be something, it is still looking impressive.
CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.4 / 940.6mb/124.6kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.1 6.1 6.1

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 25 km

Center Temp : +8.2C Cloud Region Temp : -66.4C

Scene Type : EYE

Positioning Method : RING/SPIRAL COMBINATION

As for 98E, it is looking depression worthy.
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Quoting ncstorm:


go to this link and then click on 850mb vorticity
That whole page is just what I was looking for, thanks again!
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Quoting FSUCOOPman:
Sorry, if too off topic, but I'm looking to buy a weather station, and I was thinking about this one: Davis Instruments 6250 Vantage Vue Wireless

I'm ok with this being on the main blog, but if others don't like it, please private message me on your weather station experience or any makes or models you've bought or used.

my budget is less than $500 including mounting hardware.

Thanks, in advance...


Also looking to buy a weather station this year, actually one for myself and one for my Mom in the Georgia mountains. Are there any stations with rain gauges that can resist freezing? Sometimes in winter a front starts out with rain and by morning it's all frozen. Her last gauge shattered in a freeze.

T.I.A.
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1. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ASSOCIATED WITH A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM
LOCATED ABOUT 400 MILES SOUTH OF MANZANILLO MEXICO HAVE INCREASED
AND BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED THIS AFTERNOON. ENVIRONMENTAL
CONDITIONS ARE CONDUCIVE FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT...AND A
TROPICAL DEPRESSION IS LIKELY TO FORM TONIGHT OR THURSDAY. THIS
SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...90 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT
ABOUT 10 MPH.


I can't believe its not a TD.
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Quoting wxchaser97:
where did you get the map on the bottom, I look and look for it but can't find it? TIA


go to this link and then click on 850mb vorticity
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Quoting ncstorm:


where did you get the map on the bottom, I look and look for it but can't find it? TIA
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Invest 98E up to 90%.

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 PM PDT WED JUL 11 2012

FOR THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC...EAST OF 140 DEGREES WEST LONGITUDE..

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON HURRICANE
EMILIA...LOCATED ABOUT 750 MILES SOUTHWEST OF THE SOUTHERN TIP OF
BAJA CALIFORNIA.

1. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ASSOCIATED WITH A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM
LOCATED ABOUT 400 MILES SOUTH OF MANZANILLO MEXICO HAVE INCREASED
AND BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED THIS AFTERNOON. ENVIRONMENTAL
CONDITIONS ARE CONDUCIVE FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT...AND A
TROPICAL DEPRESSION IS LIKELY TO FORM TONIGHT OR THURSDAY. THIS
SYSTEM HAS A HIGH CHANCE...90 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT
ABOUT 10 MPH.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BROWN
NNNN

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Link

NASA has a nice little synopsis of the storms so far. With graphics, of course. I can't post them now, have to go eat dinner, so I'll see y'all later.
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000
AXPZ20 KNHC 112150
TWDEP

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
2205 UTC WED JUL 11 2012

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR THE EASTERN PACIFIC OCEAN FROM
THE EQUATOR TO 32N...EAST OF 140W. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS
BASED ON SATELLITE IMAGERY...WEATHER OBSERVATIONS...RADAR...AND
METEOROLOGICAL ANALYSIS.

BASED ON 1800 UTC SURFACE ANALYSIS AND SATELLITE IMAGERY THROUGH
2100 UTC.

...SPECIAL FEATURES...
HURRICANE EMILIA CENTER AT 14.7N 117.8W AT 2100 UTC MOVE W AT 8
KT WITH MINIMUM CENTRAL PRES 960 MB. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WIND 100
WITH GUSTS TO 120 KT. NUMEROUS MODERATE TO STRONG CONVECTION
WITHIN 150 NM OF CENTER. EMILIA EXPECTED TO WEAKEN TO TROPICAL
STORM FRI AS IT MOVES OVER COOLER WATERS AND BEGINS TO ENCOUNTER
INCREASING VERTICAL SHEAR. SEE LATEST NHC FORECAST/ADVISORY
UNDER AWIPS/WMO HEADER MIATCMEP5/WTPZ25 KNHC FOR MORE DETAILS.

TROPICAL STORM DANIEL CENTER AT 15.4N 141.5W AT 2100 UTC MOVE W
AT 14 KT WITH MINIMUM CENTRAL PRES 1006 MB. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WIND 30 GUSTS 40 KT. SEE LATEST CPHC FORECAST/ADVISORY UNDER
AWIPS/WMO HEADER TCMCP1/WTPA21 PHFO FOR MORE DETAILS.

SURFACE LOW PRES 1006 MB AT 13N103W EMBEDDED IN MONSOON TROUGH
MOVES W-NW AT 10 KT WITH ASSOCIATED HEAVY CONVECTION WITHIN 120
NM W SEMICIRCLE. WIND AND SEAS CONTINUE TO INCREASE AS SYSTEM
BECOMES BETTER ORGANIZED WITH CONVECTION BEGINNING TO WRAP
AROUND CENTER. UPPER LEVEL CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR SLOW
DEVELOPMENT WITH AN 80 PERCENT CHANCE OF BECOMING TROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING NEXT 48 HOURS.

...INTERTROPICAL CONVERGENCE ZONE/MONSOON TROUGH...
DISCONTINUOUS MONSOON TROUGH EXTENDS FROM 08N82W TO 09N90W TO
11N100W...THEN RESUMES FROM 10N120W TO 05N130W THEN ITCZ TO
BEYOND 08N140W. SCATTERED MODERATE TO STRONG CONVECTION N OF
04N E OF 85W. SCATTERED MODERATE ISOLATED STRONG CONVECTION
WITHIN 120 NM OF TROUGH FROM 119W TO 128W.

...DISCUSSION...
SHARP UPPER LEVEL TROUGH EXTEND FROM 32N120W TO CYCLONE AT
26N123W THEN SW TO SECOND CYCLONE AT 07N139W. TROUGH AND
UPSTREAM ANTICYCLONE BRING VERY DRY STABLE AIR MASS ACROSS MOST
OF BASIN N OF 10N W OF 120W.

...E OF 120W...
COMPLEX ARRAY OF ANTICYCLONIC FLOW INTERRUPTED BY OUTFLOWS FROM
EMILIA AND LOW PRES CENTER AT 13N103W PRODUCE SMALL REGIONS OF
DIVERGING AND CONVERGING WINDS ALOFT WHICH MAKES FORECAST
ERRATIC AT BEST. CROSS EQUATORIAL SOUTHERLY SWELL MIXING WITH
SWELL GENERATED BY HURRICANE EMILIA PRODUCING CONFUSED SEAS OVER
LARGE PORTION OF REGION FROM 10N TO 20N BETWEEN 100W AND 120W.
ADD PRODUCTION OF SWELLS COMING OUT OF INTENSIFYING LOW PRES
CENTER AND SEAS ONLY BECOME HIGHLY UNCERTAIN.

LOW PRES CENTER 1006 MB AT 13N103W REMAINS STUBBORNLY RESISTANT
TO ADVERSE OUTFLOW FROM EMILIA AND COOLER SST THAN ITS
FRONTRUNNER...BUT CONDITIONS TURN MORE FAVORABLE AS IT ENTERS
AREA OF DIVERGENCE ALOFT ENHANCING ITS CONVECTION. SYSTEM
EXPECTED TO SLOWLY INTENSIFY AS IT DRIFT AND EMILIA WEAKENS.
THERE IS A 80 PERCENT CHANCE OF LOW PRES CENTER BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN NEXT 48 HOURS. MODEL GUIDANCE AGREE
WITH DEVELOPMENT AND TRACK SCENARIO WITH MAIN DIFFERENCES IN ITS
TIMING.

HIGH PRES CENTER 1026 MB AT 32N143W FORCES SWATH OF FRESH N-NE
BREEZE N OF 27N FROM 126W TO 135W WITH SEAS REACHING 10 FT BY
FRI.

$$
WALLY BARNES

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Quoting FSUCOOPman:
Sorry, if too off topic, but I'm looking to buy a weather station, and I was thinking about this one: Link

I'm ok with this being on the main blog, but if others don't like it, please private message me on your weather station experience or any makes or models you've bought or used.

my budget is less than $500 including mounting hardware.

Thanks, in advance...
I got that one 2 months ago and for me it works great and I got it for a much better price.
Quoting Autistic2:


Any one know where I can fing a Tropicl Weather Bog. I thought there was already a blog for this.
It comes and goes as it pleases. It is usually here when there is something in the atlantic. You just have to find it and hunt it down and then bring it back in one piece.
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Quoting FSUCOOPman:
Sorry, if too off topic, but I'm looking to buy a weather station, and I was thinking about this one: Link

I'm ok with this being on the main blog, but if others don't like it, please private message me on your weather station experience or any makes or models you've bought or used.

my budget is less than $500 including mounting hardware.

Thanks, in advance...


You can always mount using some good ole PVC, Thats what I used
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