Rick Knabb takes over as director of NHC

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 12:56 PM GMT on June 04, 2012

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Today marks the first day of work for the National Hurricane Center's new director--Dr. Rick Knabb, who worked at NHC from 2005 - 2008 as a senior hurricane forecaster before leaving in 2008 to take a position as deputy director and director of operations of the Central Pacific Hurricane Center (CPHC) and NWS Forecast Office in Honolulu, Hawaii. Dr. Knabb left Hawaii to take a position as The Weather Channel's hurricane expert in 2010, where he worked until May of this year. He thus brings a unique mix of NHC experience, managerial experience, and experience communicating to the public on-camera, to the NHC director's job. He will fit in very comfortably with the NHC staff, and should make an excellent NHC director. Knabb, 43, is the second youngest director of NHC. Only Neil Frank, who served as director from 1973 - 1987, was younger at the time he took the job.

Dr. Knabb takes over the directorship of NHC from Bill Read. Read took the post of NHC director in 2008 after Bill Proenza stepped down following a stormy six-month tenure where much of staff revolted against him. In the wake of the turmoil stirred up by Proenza, Read brought stability to the Hurricane Center. Read's management ability, easy-going style, and solid communication skills made Read an excellent choice for director of NHC, and he will be missed. “I will have been in charge just shy of four and a half years on June 1,” Read wrote in a letter to hurricane center staff earlier this year. “I had no idea I would ever be considered for such an honor. It’s been quite a ride and I’m blessed to hit the exit ramp in my career after working with you all.” Read was lucky enough in his four-year tenure at NHC to never oversee a landfalling major hurricane in the U.S.

National Hurricane Center Directors:
Gordon Dunn, 1965 - 1967
Robert Simpson, 1967 - 1973
Neil Frank, 1973 - 1987
Bob Sheets, 1987 - 1995
Robert Burpee, 1995 - 1997
Jerry Jarrell, 1998 - 2000
Max Mayfield, 2000 - 2007
Bill Proenza, January - July, 2007
Ed Rappaport (interim), July 2007 - January 2008
Bill Read, 2008 - 2012
Rick Knabb, 2012 - ????

It looks like Dr. Knabb will have a quiet first week on the job--there are no threat areas to discuss in the Atlantic, and none of the computer models is predicting tropical storm development over the next seven days.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting Jedkins01:
Looks like we have a fresh shot of end of the world strife in the blogs today.


Maybe it's just because people's faces and brains are being eaten by total freaks lately...
Yeah that was freakishly gruesome what happened down in Miami. I mean what the heck is wrong with people these days?
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sorry Bob, it was given at the IMF governors meeting in 2009. It's like a keynote address given once a year, it was given by Ricardo Cabbellero. I've got the name of his speech wrong. Hopefully that's enough info to get you to said speech.
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Quoting MTWX:


Nothing like an LP Supercell with the mountains as a back drop!


I wouldnt know ;) yet haha


Couple of my structure shots form this year (cell phone pics)





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Quoting LargoFl:


Bring that thing to Texas
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Quoting Jedkins01:
Looks like we have a fresh shot of end of the world strife in the blogs today.


Maybe it's just because people's faces and brains are being eaten by total freaks lately...


It's all fun and games until someone gets eaten by a zombie.
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Quoting Chicklit:
Link WVLOOP WATL


No tropical development expected for the next 7 days?
If Central America was not there, we would definitely have something brewing.
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Quoting RitaEvac:
[Frank] isnt opposed to legitimate debate about global warming but said he is frustrated by the inaccuracies, half-truths and outright fabrications he sees put forth as facts.

Oddly enough, most of the things that follow are either half-truths or inaccuracies. Funny how projection works.
Quoting RitaEvac:
There is a lot of talk about carbon dioxide, talking about it like it's a pollutant or a poison, he said. It's a naturally occurring substance that is essential for plant life.

Although typically people think of artificial substances spilled into the environment as pollution, technically anything can be a pollutant. Even things natural. Even things essential for life. This concept is not something new to environmental science.
Quoting RitaEvac:He is especially dismissive of those he believes have adopted strong views on the subject for financial gain. The notion of regulating emissions but allowing companies to purchase carbon credits is particularly disagreeable to Frank.

This is the conservative, free market solution to reducing greenhouse gases. Set a cap, create a market to sell credits between companies that pollute too much or are particular sustainable and green. Offset greenhouse gas emissions with planting of forests or retrofitting buildings. Offset credits being used improperly is an entirely different issue than the science of climate.
Quoting RitaEvac:

[snipped distraction nonsense about Al Gore]

Offset credits being used improperly is an entirely different issue than the science of climate. Perhaps if Frank is so worried about people making so much money off the backs of others, he could find numerous other corporations contributing to climate change yet receiving taxpayer subsidies?
Quoting RitaEvac:
Frank doesnt dispute that mankind might be contributing to global warming but said there is no real science that can prove humans are the primary cause of climate change.

He seems to be doing a poor job keeping up with the science. In fact, there are numerous fingerprints of humans contributing to increasing greenhouse gas concentrations, and there are numerous fingerprints as well as well-established, physical mechanisms by which an increase in GHGs will become a climate forcing and cause net warming.

This isn't a "might." There is no real science that backs up Frank's assertion... if he was keeping up in the field he would already know this.
Quoting GTcooliebai:
I think he was just sharing his theory. I don't think you have to be qualified in another field to talk about that field, especially if it is a matter of opinion.

And a matter of opinion was all that it was, a poorly formed, opinion at that.
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Quoting Jedkins01:
Looks like we have a fresh shot of end of the world strife in the blogs today.


Maybe it's just because people's faces and brains are being eaten by total freaks lately...


I saw the most funniest youtube video of a zombie prank in Miami..hilarious!
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Quoting dogsgomoo:
For fear of going o/t (but since we're already talking about him) I have a hard time with the "expert by association" argument.

No disrespect to the man, his career, his accomplishments, or his meteorological and mathematical knowledge but how does being the director of the NHC make one qualified to speak about solar weather, solar dynamics, or any other stellar astronomy areas of study? We all have our areas of expertise and knowledge but only some things can be applied across fields. Being an expert in one field doesn't mean you are automatically qualified to speak regarding the deep dives of another field.

My aunt makes highly detailed and lovely clay and wood sculptures but I'm not going to go to her for in depth understanding on staining a deck or renovating a kitchen.

A podiatrist, while I'm sure he can talk about possible reasons for headaches wouldn't be the one doing the brain surgery.
I think he was just sharing his theory. I don't think you have to be qualified in another field to talk about that field, especially if it is a matter of opinion.
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NWS is saying we could get pretty wet in parts of Texas for 2 or 3 days this week, I say bring it on, stall over Lake Travis and fill that waterhole up. Have a great day!
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Blob in gulf wants to grow SW, kind of twisting motion if you will.......and what do you know, lo and be hold the models actually say that location is the area to develop. Makes perfect sense.

Rocket science
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Speaking of Maine: there have been some torrential downpours going on the last several days, with many areas receiving more precipitation in just a day than they normally see all month. Lots of locations have broken--and some cases shattered--single-day June rainfall records. Here's a sampling:

********************STORM TOTAL RAINFALL********************
LOCATION STORM TOTAL TIME/DATE COMMENTS
RAINFALL OF
/INCHES/ MEASUREMENT
MAINE
...ANDROSCOGGIN COUNTY...
3 NNE AUBURN: 8.14
DURHAM: 7.53
1 ENE LISBON FALLS: 7.30
2 E LEWISTON: 7.27
1 NW AUBURN: 6.10
LIVERMORE FALLS: 4.71
LEWISTON AWOS: 4.41
...CUMBERLAND COUNTY...
3 NW BRIDGTON: 8.42
1 WSW BRUNSWICK: 7.50
PORTLAND - DEERING: 6.68
PORTLAND - RIVERTON: 6.63
GRAY NWS OFFICE: 6.62
E BRUNSWICK: 6.49
1 ENE SOUTH WINDHAM: 6.49
GORHAM: 6.44 757 AM 6/04
3 WNW PORTLAND 6.19 434 PM 6/03
...SAGADAHOC COUNTY...
3 S BATH: 8.14
...YORK COUNTY...
SACO: 6.02

But I wouldn't worry about it; I'm certain it's just a coincidence. Another one.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Always check FSU Cyclone Phase Diagrams first. The low depicted by the CMC is completely cold-core.



the models that I showed were for the GOM development..hence the origin of the blob and the blogger who was stating development..and just because its cold core dosent mean it cant transition to a subtropical cyclone..alberto and beryl did such..at this time of the year, when I see a 1008 mb Low, Im not just going to think its cold core throughout its whole life..In fact, if I remember correctly, I dont think most models stated Alberto and Beryl would have tropical characteristics in the cyclone phase diagrams..I remember posting about potential Beryl on the Euro model run and most of you guys said it was cold core then and we all know what happened with that one
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you'd be a crappy keeper of the gate if you didn't :)
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Looks like we have a fresh shot of end of the world strife in the blogs today.


Maybe it's just because people's faces and brains are being eaten by total freaks lately...
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473. MTWX
Quoting tornadodude:


Yep, agreed. I would love to chase in Montana and Wyoming sometime. The terrain is gorgeous, and some of the best structure is found up there. Although, we get some pretty darn good structure down here in Texas and Oklahoma.


Nothing like an LP Supercell with the mountains as a back drop!
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Quoting BobWallace:


When I google "Total System Arrest" I get pages about keeping people from falling off roofs.

I guess that speech didn't make a big impact on the world. And being the "most important peole in the world no ones ever heard of" could put one way down the list. Way past Snookie and Arnold George Dorsey....


Sadly, I know who the first one is... But I've never heard of Arnold Dorsey.
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Quoting Patrap:

Gulf Of Mexico - Rainbow Loop

..click image for Loop.

gee pat that blob is coming my way thurs and fri huh..we can sure use it around here, maybe not so much further north, some got 15 inches of rain last week
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Quoting Grothar:


Be careful of what you write. (They may be watching us)


Ah, but I am watching them.
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Quoting Tribucanes:
A speech given, entitled "Total System Arrest" was given by one of the most important brokers of power in the world. It was given in 2009. A read which would suffice what your looking to learn. I should clarify that it's one of the most important people in the world no ones ever heard of. Check it out Bob if you wish, I think you'd find it illuminating.


When I google "Total System Arrest" I get pages about keeping people from falling off roofs.

I guess that speech didn't make a big impact on the world. And being the "most important people in the world no ones ever heard of" could put one way down the list. Way past Snookie and Arnold George Dorsey....
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Quoting Grothar:


Be careful of what you write. (They may be watching us)


iam always watching and waiting

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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Always check FSU Cyclone Phase Diagrams first. The low depicted by the CMC is completely cold-core.



Is the best way to post that graphic first and below that one,the model graphic.
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Quoting WxGeekVA:
Not sure if I logged onto a weather blog or a conspiracy blog....


Be careful of what you write. (They may be watching us)
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Quoting MTWX:


Tornadoes are really rare in MT. But given the openess (if thats a word) of the terrain, they would be able to get some awesome structure and lightning shots!! Hail risk is meager at best too... Looks to be more of a squall line wind threat with a few supercells popping out front..


Yep, agreed. I would love to chase in Montana and Wyoming sometime. The terrain is gorgeous, and some of the best structure is found up there. Although, we get some pretty darn good structure down here in Texas and Oklahoma.
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Quoting RitaEvac:


Models can and do change every few hrs


Haven't check them. Are they now forecasting something in the near future in the GOM? I know that Crown Weather is pretty bullish for something to develop in the GOM or NW Caribbean next week. He sees it moving into the Northern or Western GOM.
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463. MTWX
Quoting tornadodude:


Im not hopeful that there will be a tornado, but with a warmfront and possible discrete supercells, it's certainly possible. However, the dewpoints are fairly low for a substantial tornado threat, but stranger things have happened.


Tornadoes are really rare in MT. But given the openess (if thats a word) of the terrain, they would be able to get some awesome structure and lightning shots!! Hail risk is meager at best too... Looks to be more of a squall line wind threat with a few supercells popping out front..
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Quoting ncstorm:


Not according to the models..

Always check FSU Cyclone Phase Diagrams first. The low depicted by the CMC is completely cold-core.

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Quoting Patrap:
It dont have to be a Cat 3 plus, even a TS can have its named retired as TS Allison did years ago.

All it has to do is Linger.

Still the only TS to have been retired.

Agreed! TS Nicole was not retired, but we (Jamaica) got up to 37 inches over five(5) days...i never seen it rain that much in Jamaica. TS Nicole was also the fourth wettest tropical cyclone to affect Jamaica.
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Quoting WxGeekVA:
Not sure if I logged onto a weather blog or a conspiracy blog....


It's been this way as long as I can remember. I remember some of the people who came on here and would talk about "tunneling." Good times.
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Quoting BobWallace:


Thanks for that.

Now that we are sure Neil Frank is ignorant when it comes to climate science we can dismiss his opinion.







That's ok... because, nobody in the real world is listening to anybody about AGW or this blog....ABOUT ANYTHING. Which is why the demise of everything you know and take for granted is coming to an end very soon.
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Quoting GTcooliebai:
Am I worried? I'm not really worried we have climate monitoring systems to warn us.

What does that mean, exactly? What is a "climate monitoring system?" Climate change isn't like a lahar forming on the side of a dormant volcano...
Quoting GTcooliebai:
...climate just doesn't change one day and go back to normal the next. The day we change our habits and overabundant use of fossil fuels is the day this whole Global Warming phenomenon goes to rest and we return to normal.

Your two sentences are highly contradictory. In response to the second... It wont be that simple, and it gets farther away from being that simple every day...
Quoting GTcooliebai:
Also the idea the sun is getting hotter may explain why the earth is getting warmer. And if the Ozone layer is depleted that just means more direct sunlight penetrating our atmosphere.

The sun is getting "hotter?" What do you mean.. by what measure? Solar energy measured at the top of the earth's atmosphere and global average temperature have been going in opposite directions for almost a half century now. The sun, being the obvious source of the energy in the climate system, has already been studied in relation to climate and it is not responsible for the modern warming period.
The ozone layer is a completely separate issue.
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Quoting MTWX:


Up near Conrad should be a good area for them to start, given the outlook.


Im not hopeful that there will be a tornado, but with a warmfront and possible discrete supercells, it's certainly possible. However, the dewpoints are fairly low for a substantial tornado threat, but stranger things have happened.
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Not sure if I logged onto a weather blog or a conspiracy blog....
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Update on the Severe Possibility for SE FL, lol.

000
FXUS62 KMFL 041849
AFDMFL

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
249 PM EDT MON JUN 4 2012

.DISCUSSION...WIDESPREAD CU FIELD HAS ENVELOPED SOUTH FLORIDA THIS
AFTERNOON WITH TEMPERATURES NEAR TO JUST ABOVE THE 90 DEGREE MARK.
CONCERN THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING REMAINS THE POSSIBILITY
OF ISOLATED STRONG TO SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOPING ACROSS EAST
COASTAL AREAS. ATTM LOW LEVEL WESTERLY FLOW HAS ACTUALLY INCREASED
WHICH IS INHIBITING THE FORMATION OF AN EAST COAST SEA BREEZE THIS
AFTERNOON. IF THIS CONTINUES...STORMS MAY NOT DEVELOP
BUT WITH A
COUPLE OF MORE HOURS OF HEATING REMAINING...A WEAK CONVERGENT ZONE
ALONG THE EAST COAST COULD DEVELOP POSSIBLY SPARKING A FEW
THUNDERSTORMS. IF SO...IT WOULD NOT TAKE MUCH FOR ANY STORM TO
REACH SEVERE LIMITS WITH THE AVAILABLE INSTABILITY. ANY STORMS
THAT DO DEVELOP SHOULD DISSIPATE BY SUNDOWN.
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A speech given, entitled "Total System Arrest" was given by one of the most important brokers of power in the world. It was given in 2009. A read which would suffice what your looking to learn. I should clarify that it's one of the most important people in the world no ones ever heard of. Check it out Bob if you wish, I think you'd find it illuminating.
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Quoting luvtogolf:


What models? Didn't Dr. M say in his blog that models are not showing any development for the next 7 days.


Models can and do change every few hrs
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Quoting RitaEvac:
“The planet has experienced climate shifts and weather cycles since before man was around,” he said. “The use of pseudo-science and mathematical modeling to “prove” man’s control of the environment is simply wrong. Television weathermen use mathematical modeling to predict the five-day forecast.

“And you can see how often we get that wrong.”


Neil Frank


Thanks for that.

Now that we are sure Neil Frank is ignorant when it comes to climate science we can dismiss his opinion.





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Quoting GTcooliebai:
Thanks Rita, I had to search his name because I didn't know who he was. Nice to know he was the director of the NHC.
For fear of going o/t (but since we're already talking about him) I have a hard time with the "expert by association" argument.

No disrespect to the man, his career, his accomplishments, or his meteorological and mathematical knowledge but how does being the director of the NHC make one qualified to speak about solar weather, solar dynamics, or any other stellar astronomy areas of study? We all have our areas of expertise and knowledge but only some things can be applied across fields. Being an expert in one field doesn't mean you are automatically qualified to speak regarding the deep dives of another field.

My aunt makes highly detailed and lovely clay and wood sculptures but I'm not going to go to her for in depth understanding on staining a deck or renovating a kitchen.

A podiatrist, while I'm sure he can talk about possible reasons for headaches wouldn't be the one doing the brain surgery.
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450. MTWX
Quoting tornadodude:
afternoon everyone

Could be a tornado or two in Montana today. I have a couple of friends who are up that way chasing.

I attempted to make a lightning timelapse video, check it out



Up near Conrad should be a good area for them to start, given the outlook.
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Quoting NativeSun:
Bob, my degree is not in climate science so I do not pretend to know that a trace gas CO2 is the major cause of G.W. like some so called people with PHDs in other feilds of science. CO2 is a componet of G.W. but is it the most important componet?

At present, yes.
Quoting NativeSun:

Hopefully in the next few years we will be able to answer this question.

We already have... more than a decade ago.

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Quoting ncstorm:


Not according to the models..


What models? Didn't Dr. M say in his blog that models are not showing any development for the next 7 days.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

That was either a short timelapse or the storm was stationary. :P


haha a little bit of both. The storm wasnt really moving, but it was also only maybe 6 minutes of video.
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Quoting RitaEvac:


He's retired and doesn't care, let the know it alls figure it out.


I'm retired too.

And I don't care what his opinion is. Give me facts.

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It dont have to be a Cat 3 plus, even a TS can have its named retired as TS Allison did years ago.

All it has to do is Linger.

Still the only TS to have been retired.
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Quoting LargoFl:
just one thing about the collapse IF it comes, remember it was the rich back in the depression, that were jumping out of windows and off roof's because they lost their money, the poor suffered but..they kept on going and in a way, helped rebuild this country..its the working people, the every day working people who are the real strength of this county in the long run, just my opinion, not meant to sway anyone one way or the other.


This big recession has been nothing like the Great Depression. In general, during the GD, most everyone suffered. Today's continuing economic woes from the recession are impacting middle and lower income folks much much more than the well-off folks. CEO-to-worker pay, corporate profits, you name the measure. Certainly no need for suicides from the upper class this time.

Money is being horded by large corporations and very well off individuals. They pay near the lowest effective tax rates in the developed world, and they are not using that money to create jobs no matter what people tell you. 5 years ago I would have shrugged off a statement like the one I just made as someone's lefty conspiracy theory against corporations. Today the data not only shows that it is happening, it is screaming it.
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Hell, just google Neil Frank, global warming and you'll get everything you need on what he thinks
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Jacksonville, FL recorded it's 5th wettest May ever.

May 2012 featured an early start to the tropical season as two named storms developed near the region and impacted the forecast area. This helped to bring above normal rainfall to both southeast Georgia and northeast Florida as Tropical Storm Beryl made landfall in Jacksonville over Memorial Day weekend. All four climate stations ended up with May rainfall totals that ranked in the Top Ten all-time based on their period of record. Average temperatures were slightly above normal with a few brief warm periods early in the month where temperatures reached into the middle 90s across the region. Several stalled frontal boundaries throughout the month in addition to the tropical rainfall at the end of the month led to precipitation totals of 5 to 10 inches across all of southeast Georgia and northeast Florida and these values were almost 4 times then normal rainfall amounts for the month of May. Daily rainfall records were set at all climate sites on Memorial Day with widespread 2 to 4 inch amounts. Tropical Storm Beryl rainfall totals ranged from 3 to 6 inches area wide with isolated 10 to 15 inch totals across the Suwannee River Valley of northeast Florida with details seen here. The above normal rainfall totals in May erased much of the short-term deficit in rainfall amounts for the calendar year but only eased the long-term drought conditions slightly...as the latest version of the Drought Monitor seen here still shows Moderate to Extreme Drought conditions across all of southeast Georgia and northeast Florida. Rainfall deficits over the last 24 to 36 months remain in the 20 to 30 inch range across much of the region
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Quoting Tribucanes:
First goes Greece, Italy, Portugal and Spain. Euro collapses. Dollar is tied deeply to Euro. Dollar plummets. Most of worlds debt is in the US dollar. Runs on banks. Empty shelves in less than a week. Price of oil skyrockets. Empty gas stations. Lawlessness, desperation, and strife are the new norm. Martial law declared. Military and new FEMA "army" step in to take control. They protect us from ourselves in FEMA camps. Doesn't take a financial collapse either. Terrorist attack of nuclear nature, 9.0 off Oregon coast, or San Madrid going could bring all these to fruition. Or 2013 will come, all will be well and this will have been some silly doom talk. IMF and the World Bank are well prepared to step in and set up a One World Government. They are the main reason now that Western debt based economies head towards insolvency. They have prepared on a monumental level to transition this collapse smoothly to a One World Government. People of Greece get it now, and they're pissed, and not going along with austerity measures. But it's late in the game Bob, this is just the tip of what is possibly to come.


Oh, I totally agree.

Either Europe will melt down and take much of the world's economy with it.

Or it won't.

One or two nuclear bombs set off by terrorists will cause us all to go totally catatonic and stop.

Or they won't.

A World Government will take us over.

Or it won't.

Sorry, I'm getting so old that I've lived through too many of these doomsday prophesies/black helicopter/secret codes on the back of stop sign things to take any of them seriously any longer.

I've also lived through some pretty nasty times and seen how we crawl our way back out. Massive, complete collapse - I ain't buying that.

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