Extreme 111° heat hits Texas; floods kill 9 in Haiti

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:25 PM GMT on April 26, 2012

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Another round of unprecedented April heat hit the U.S. yesterday, and this time it was Texas' turn to see large sections of the state with the hottest April temperatures in over a century of record keeping. Seven major airports in Texas set all-time April high temperatures yesterday:

Amarillo, TX: 99° (old April record 98° on 4/22/1989 and 4/22/1965)
Lubbock, TX: 101° (old April record 100° on 4/16/1925 and /22/1989)
Dalhart, TX: 96° (old April record 94° on 4/22/1989)
Borger, TX: 99° (tied April record set on 4/22/1965)
Midland, TX: 104° (old April record 101° on 4/21/1989)
Abilene, TX: 104° (old April record 102° on 4/16/1925)
Childress, TX: 106° (old April record 102° on three occasions, most recently on 4/3/2011)

According to wunderground's weather historian Christopher C. Burt, both Texas and Oklahoma came within 2°F of their all-time April state high temperature record yesterday. Altus, Oklahoma hit 104°, falling 2° short of the April state record of 106° set at the Magnum Research Station in 1972. In the Texas Mesonet, it hit 111° at Knox City 3NW, which is just 2° short of the Texas April state record of 113° set at Catarina in 1984. According to Mr. Burt, What is amazing is that Knox City is in the north-central part of the state, not down in the Rio Grande region like Catarina. The 111° would probably be pretty close to whatever the all-time hottest temp for ANY month might be in that location (probably around 115°). On Sunday this week, Nevada just missed setting their April state high temperature record, when the mercury hit 105° in Laughlin (April state record: 106° in 1989.)


Figure 1. At least 36 of the roughly 400 major U.S. cities that maintain automated weather sensors at their local airports (8%) have set or tied all-time April high temperature records so far this month. The records set yesterday in Texas are not yet in the database, and are not included on this map. Image taken from our new Record Extremes page.

Earlier this week, all-time record April heat hit large portions of Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, and Wyoming. At least 36 of the roughly 400 major U.S. cities that maintain automated weather sensors at their local airports (8%) have set or tied all-time April high temperature records so far this month; no all-time April cold records have been set. The U.S. has been on an extraordinary pace of setting high temperature records so far in 2012. During March 2012, an astonishing 32% of all the major airports in the U.S. set all-time March high temperature records. For the year-to-date, there have been 184 new all-time monthly high temperature records set at the major airports, and 6 all-time monthly low temperature records. Not surprisingly, the period January - March this year has been the warmest such period in the U.S. since record keeping began in 1895.



Figure 2. Total precipitable water (in mm) for this morning shows a surge of moisture moving westwards though the Caribbean. Precipitable water values in excess of 51 mm (2 inches, orange colors) are capable of generating heavy flooding rains. Image credit: University of Wisconsin CIMSS.

Heavy rains kill nine in Haiti
The rainy season has begun on the Caribbean island of Hispaniola, where heavy rains that began on Monday have triggered mudslides and floods that killed nine people. Nearly 500,000 people are still homeless in Haiti from the January 2010 earthquake, making the country highly vulnerable to flooding disasters. Heavy flooding was also a problem this week in the neighboring Dominican Republic, where 11,000 people were evacuated; no deaths were reported there, however. Precipitation forecasts from the GFS model suggest that the worst is over for Hispaniola, with the axis of greatest moisture expected to move west of the island today. This surge of moisture will bring heavy rains to Jamaica, Cuba, the Bahamas, Cayman Islands, and South Florida during the remainder of the week.

Jeff Masters

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Gonna be a good day
I'll have another cup please

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Quoting Ameister12:
Not forgetting this anytime soon. What a terrifying scene.

Here in Sweden, I watched CBS 42 live broadcast with Mark Prater that day. He did an amazing job and I am so impressed by him.



Mark's interview the day after
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Quoting hydrus:

whats up hydrus?
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

It's not, velocities aren't good enough.

Probably not even a tornado on the ground right now.

This was the frame I thought I saw the debris ball in... What do you think?





...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR CLAY...CENTRAL PERRY...
SOUTHERN OWSLEY AND LESLIE COUNTIES UNTIL 545 PM EDT...

AT 521 PM EDT...TRAINED WEATHER SPOTTERS AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
REPORTED A FUNNEL CLOUD
. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED NEAR SPURLOCK...OR
9 MILES EAST OF MANCHESTER...MOVING SOUTHEAST AT 30 MPH.

THE DEVELOPING TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
BEAR BRANCH...SIZEROCK...MARCUM AND BUCKHORN LAKE S.P. AROUND 540
PM EDT.
HOSEA...THOUSANDSTICKS...CREEKVILLE AND ESSIE AROUND 545 PM EDT.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

TAKE COVER NOW. MOVE TO AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF A
STURDY BUILDING. AVOID WINDOWS. IF IN A MOBILE HOME...A VEHICLE OR
OUTDOORS...MOVE TO THE CLOSEST SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER AND PROTECT
YOURSELF FROM FLYING DEBRIS.

&&

LAT...LON 3691 8350 3694 8351 3695 8357 3720 8395
3721 8394 3725 8394 3726 8390 3731 8388
3734 8378 3742 8383 3736 8354 3733 8355
3735 8349 3729 8317 3688 8346
TIME...MOT...LOC 2134Z 296DEG 27KT 3719 8358

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Quoting MAweatherboy1:

Don't want to be alarmist and someone correct me if I'm wrong but the new frame looks even worse and I may see a debris ball

It's not, velocities aren't good enough.

Probably not even a tornado on the ground right now.
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Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:


Good afternoon Nigel. Do you know how much rain fell today in Kingston? Is the radar still not working there?

Good afternoon Tropicsweather, it's being updated...hopefully it will be back up ASAP
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Quoting nigel20:


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California Meteorite: Space Rocks Found By Collector May Date To Early Solar System
By SCOTT SONNER 04/26/12 07:58 AM ET


RENO, Nev. -- Robert Ward has been hunting and collecting meteorites for more than 20 years, so he knew he'd found something special in the Sierra foothills along the path of a flaming fireball that shook parts of Northern California and Nevada with a sonic boom over the weekend.

And scientists have confirmed his suspicions: it's one of the more primitive types of space rocks out there, dating to the early formation of the solar system 4 to 5 billion years ago.

"It was just, needless to say, a thrilling moment," Ward of Prescott, Ariz., told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Wednesday as he walked through an old cemetery in search of more meteorites about 35 miles northeast of Sacramento.

He found the first piece on Tuesday along a road between a baseball field and park on the edge of Lotus near Coloma, where James W. Marshall first discovered gold in California, at Sutter's Mill in 1848.

Ward, who has found meteorites in every continent but Antarctica and goes by "AstroBob" on his website, said he "instantly knew" it was a rare meteorite known as "CM" – carbonaceous chondrite – based in part on the "fusion crusts from atmospheric entry" on one side of the rock.

"It is one of the oldest things known to man and one of the rarest types of meteorites there is," he said. "It contains amino acids and organic compounds that are extremely important to science."

Ward actually has two rocks but suspects they were part of the same small meteorite that broke on impact. Each weighs about 10 grams – about the same as two nickels. He said his only previous finds that rival this one were three lunar meteorites he found years ago in the Middle East.

Experts say the flaming meteor was probably about the size of a minivan when it entered the Earth's atmosphere with a loud boom and about one-third of the explosive force of the atomic bomb. It was seen from Sacramento, Calif., to Las Vegas and parts of northern Nevada.

An event of that size might happen once a year around the world, said Don Yeomans of NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "But most of them occur over the ocean or an uninhabited area, he said.


"Getting to see one is something special," he said. He added, "most meteors you see in the night's sky are the size of tiny stones or even grains of sand, and their trail lasts all of a second or two."

The meteor probably weighed about 154,300 pounds, said Bill Cooke, a specialist in meteors at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala. At the time of disintegration, he said, it probably released energy equivalent to a 5-kiloton explosion – the Hiroshima bomb was 15 kilotons.

"You don't often have kiloton rocks flying over your head," he said.

The boom, another expert said, was caused by the speed with which the space rock entered the atmosphere. Meteorites enter Earth's upper atmosphere at somewhere between 22,000 mph and 44,000 mph – faster than the speed of sound, thus creating a sonic boom.

The friction between the rock and the air is so intense that "it doesn't even burn it up, it vaporizes," said Tim Spahr, director of the Minor Planet Center at Harvard University.

John T. Wasson, a longtime professor and expert in meteorites at UCLA's Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics, said he understood that in addition to Lotus, another small meteorite had been in nearby Coloma,

Bits of the meteor could be strewn over an area as long as 10 miles, most likely stretching west from Coloma, he said.

"I'm sure more will be found, I'm hoping, including some fairly big pieces," Wasson said. "The fact that two pieces already have been found means one knows where to look."

Wasson suspected hundreds of dealers and collectors already have joined the search. He said it was important to recover the meteorites soon because any rain will cause them to degrade, losing their sodium and potassium.

"From my viewpoint as a meteorite researcher," he said, "I'm hopeful some big pieces are found right away."

Yeomens confirmed this type of meteorite is one of the oldest, dating to the origin of the solar system 4 to 5 billion years ago. And it's "actually kind of unusual," he said.

Yeomens said it's got two of the most important chemicals that scientists look for: carbon and a form of water. In fact, this type of space rock is likely full of water and would have made a good candidate for the new space company announced Tuesday that plans to mine asteroids, he said.

"And this one landed in their backyard for a lot less than they planned to spend," he said.

The mini-van sized asteroid wasn't on NASA's lengthy list of near Earth objects that they track coming close to the planet, so it took scientists by surprise. "There are millions of objects of that size that we don't know about," he said. "They're too small to image unless they're right up on top of you."

___

AP Science Writer Seth Borenstein contributed to this story from Washington, D.C.
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Quoting StormTracker2K:


There has been funnel clouds confirmed infact one was worded as a huge wall cloud. Nothing confirmed on the ground yet though.

Thanks for the info... The debris ball like feature isn't there anymore but the storm is still strong
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Quoting nigel20:
Good afternoon all...it has been a rainy day here in Jamaica


Good afternoon Nigel. Do you know how much rain fell today in Kingston? Is the radar still not working there?
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Quoting MAweatherboy1:

Don't want to be alarmist and someone correct me if I'm wrong but the new frame looks even worse and I may see a debris ball


There has been funnel clouds confirmed infact one was worded as a huge wall cloud. Nothing confirmed on the ground yet though.
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Quoting MAweatherboy1:
Mean looking storm...


Don't want to be alarmist and someone correct me if I'm wrong but the new frame looks even worse and I may see a debris ball
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Mean looking storm...

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Quoting Articuno:

Wrong move, this guy's mad at ya.

See, he took your cookie.
This is great.:)
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Good afternoon all...it has been a rainy day here in Jamaica
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Quoting Articuno:

I wonder why Gordon and Hanna weren't retired.
Hanna killed at least 530 while Gordon killed almost 1,150. (1,147 to be exact)
I mean, despite the fact that Haiti is a poor country, they should of been retired because if a storm kills that much people it's really mind-numbing.

I asked myself that same question numerous times. Nasty cell south of bowling green...
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Quoting Articuno:

Wrong move, this guy's mad at ya.

See, he took your cookie.


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Not forgetting this anytime soon. What a terrifying scene.
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FROM THE ASHES OF THE PAST
WE SHALL FORGE A NEW FUTURE AS ONE
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Quoting Birthmark:

I'm too gamey...maybe good for sausage.

What? It's a weather blog? Okay, then. Pea-sized hail in beautiful Murphy NC 10am EDT, 04/26/2012.

Sometimes, just sometimes, I sit here and wonder what the morning shift of "Admin," must think when they read some of the stuff that got posted overnight.
I mean last night we had an overcombed golf course builder demanding windmills be put to the axe etc. (a few hours on and off.) Today we have space invaders and asteroid hitch hiking microbes. All it stared with was high temps in Texas. Whoever knows what would happen if there was a blog on primeval soup caused by storm lightning action.
Maybe "Admin," could give some feed back on their most hilarious read ups?
Sometimes I laugh so much, I have to turn the computer off!
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Quoting Grothar:


Sorry, you were second



Wrong move, this guy's mad at ya.

See, he took your cookie.
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SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSON KY
449 PM EDT THU APR 26 2012

KYC051-109-189-262100-
/O.CON.KJKL.TO.W.0040.000000T0000Z-120426T2100Z/
JACKSON KY-OWSLEY KY-CLAY KY-
449 PM EDT THU APR 26 2012

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR NORTH CENTRAL CLAY...
OWSLEY AND EASTERN JACKSON COUNTIES UNTIL 500 PM EDT...

AT 448 PM EDT...TRAINED WEATHER SPOTTERS NEAR ISLAND CITY IN OWSLEY
COUNTY REPORTED A POSSIBLE FUNNEL CLOUD. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED
NEAR SEBASTIAN...OR 8 MILES SOUTH OF BOONEVILLE...MOVING EAST AT 35
MPH.

THE DEVELOPING TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
MISTLETOE...LUCKY FORK...BRUTUS AND BARCREEK AROUND 455 PM EDT.

OTHER LOCATIONS IMPACTED BY THIS TORNADO INCLUDE ARNETT.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

TAKE COVER NOW. MOVE TO AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF A
STURDY BUILDING. AVOID WINDOWS. IF IN A MOBILE HOME...A VEHICLE OR
OUTDOORS...MOVE TO THE CLOSEST SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER AND PROTECT
YOURSELF FROM FLYING DEBRIS.

&&

LAT...LON 3734 8399 3754 8390 3749 8383 3749 8380
3749 8374 3745 8355 3718 8357
TIME...MOT...LOC 2047Z 289DEG 29KT 3736 8366

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I am planning to watch The Weather Channel for the remainder of the afternoon/evening (as usual). I believe you guys should to. They have continuing coverage of the 2011 Super Outbreak: 1 year later. Jim Cantore is stationed in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
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Quoting hydrus:
There are a number of reasons why Haiti has so many deadly events, but here is what happens to them on a fairly regular basis.....
Timeline of Haiti's natural disasters

Some of the worst natural disasters to batter Haiti:

_ 1770: Strong earthquake devastates Port-au-Prince in then French colony.

_ 1842: Earthquake destroys Cap-Haitien and other cities in northern Haiti and Dominican Republic.

_ 1935: Unnamed storm kills more than 2,000 in Haiti before moving on to Florida as hurricane, where 400 die.

_ 1946: Magnitude-8.1 quake strikes Dominican Republic and Haiti, causing tsunami that kills 1,790 people.

_ 1954: Hurricane Hazel kills hundreds in Haiti.

_ 1963: Hurricane Flora leaves more than 6,000 dead in Haiti and Cuba.

_ 1994: Hurricane Gordon blamed for hundreds of deaths in Haiti.

_ 1998: Hurricane Georges destroys 80 percent of Haiti's crops while killing more than 400.

_ May 2004: Three days of heavy rains cause floods that kill more than 2,600.

_ September 2004: Tropical Storm Jeanne causes flooding and landslides that kill 1,900 and leave 200,000 homeless in Gonaives, Haiti's third-largest city.

_ October 2007: Tropical Storm Noel triggers mudslides and floods, killing at least 57 Haitians.

_ August and September 2008: Three hurricanes and tropical storm kill some 800 in Haiti, devastate crops and cause $1 billion in damage.

_ January 12, 2010: Magnitude-7.0 quake levels buildings in Port-Au-Prince, raising fears of tens of thousands of deaths.

Sources: Associated Press archives, US Geological Survey.

I wonder why Gordon and Hanna weren't retired.
Hanna killed at least 530 while Gordon killed almost 1,150. (1,147 to be exact)
I mean, despite the fact that Haiti is a poor country, they should of been retired because if a storm kills that much people it's really mind-numbing.

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Quoting aspectre:
163 pottery: Nice British engineering. Around the same time as the Vulcan, which was a bomber.

The B-52 may be the best bomber, and the B-29 may be the prettiest, but the Vulcan was, is, and will forever remain the maximum in COOL.
Always lived close enough to AirForce bases that I saw military airshows nearly every year. Whether I wanted to or not (I guess I coulda hid, but otherwise...)
And remained unimpressed at the various flybys and demonstrations from toddlerhood onward...
...until I saw the hangar-high extremely low-speed flyby of a Vulcan sitting on its tail.


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163 pottery: ...Nice British engineering. Around the same time as the Vulcan, which was a bomber.

The B-52 may be the best bomber, and the B-29 may be the prettiest... but the Vulcan was and will forever remain the maximum utmost in COOL.
Always lived close enough to AirForce bases that I saw military airshows nearly every year. Whether I wanted to or not (I guess I coulda hid, but otherwise...)
And remained unimpressed at the various flybys and demonstrations from toddlerhood onward...
...until I saw the barn-high extremely low-speed flyby of a Vulcan sitting on its tail.
"Float like a butterfly, and sting like a bee."
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Quoting StormTracker2K:


Yeah it doesn't look promising at the moment that this moisture will make it up to C FL but I agree it's promising that the models are picking up on daily showers for S FL starting the weekend. So one would guess it's just a matter of time before C FL gets involved. A famous forecaster said this below about S FL and rainfall for May.

S. Fla. Forecaster Suggests Link Between Hurricane Behavior, May Rainfall

Link



Interesting, I'm actually quite familiar with that study :)
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Quoting PlazaRed:

FOOD!

I'm too gamey...maybe good for sausage.

What? It's a weather blog? Okay, then. Pea-sized hail in beautiful Murphy NC 10am EDT, 04/26/2012.
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Quoting aspectre:
145 hydrus: [inre ballistic panspermia] that meteor had to come from somewhere where there was or is life. If that was proven to be the case, I would guess our galaxy and the universe is not only brimming with life, but that certain microbes and other lifeforms can survive not only the longtime trip through space, but survive re-entry and possibly the impact with the Earth...We have tough life forms right here on the planet that might survive such a trip... :)

Then one would have to ask, what magical property does the "asteroid/comet/planet of life's origin" have that Earth doesn't have? ie Unless one can scientificly explain what that property is, what it does, and how it does it, one might as well call it magic.
I was thinking along the lines of a planet that has lifeforms, is struck by a large asteroid, and that blasts whatever microbes it has out into space, eventually lands somewhere that can sustain life..It does seem like an extreme longshot, but with God anythings possible right.?...:)
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Quoting kwgirl:
Whenever I kill a bug, I want to make sure it is dead. The only way is to see the guts. Ever try killing a scorpion? I wouldn't try it! When they get in the house, I capture them and throw them outside where they belong. Tried squashing one once and it wouldn't squash.

Get Chickens!
They bit off the stinger with their beaks and then eat them.
Scorpions do respond quite negatively to being stabbed with a stick but I got stung by one once and it hurt like you cant belive for about 5 days worse than 20 wasp stings at the same time and Ive had them as well.
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Quoting aspectre:
145 hydrus: [inre ballistic panspermia] that meteor had to come from somewhere where there was or is life. If that was proven to be the case, I would guess our galaxy and the universe is not only brimming with life, but that certain microbes and other lifeforms can survive not only the longtime trip through space, but survive re-entry and possibly the impact with the Earth...We have tough life forms right here on the planet that might survive such a trip... :)

Then one would have to ask, what magical property does the "asteroid/comet/planet of life's origin" have that Earth doesn't have? ie Unless one can scientificly explain what that property is, what it does, and how it does it, one might as well call it magic.
But then one could apply that same logic to anything not thoroughly understood, no?

Anyway, I wasn't saying ballistic panspermia seeded Earth; I'm merely noting that it's entirely within the realm of reason and possibility, and it's a premise that is nowhere close to rejection. And that, to me, makes in interesting.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

To get the word out. Once storms initiate, that's when the outlooks become adjusted and increase in accuracy.


well my saying was that the outlook was increased this morning and then at the afternoon outlook they took us out of the slight risk area..all of NC was in the yellow earlier and now we are not

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Quoting RitaEvac:
I wanna see the running loop of this



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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

To get the word out. Once storms initiate, that's when the outlooks become adjusted and increase in accuracy.


This ones for you.
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Quoting jeffs713:
They're made out of meat
A dialogue by Terry Bisson. From a series of stories entitled "Alien/Nation" in the April issue of Omni.

"They're made out of meat."

"Meat?"

"Meat. They're made out of meat."

"Meat?"

"There's no doubt about it. We picked several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, probed them all the through. They're completely meat."

"That's impossible. What about the radio signals? The messages to the stars."

"They use the radio waves to talk, but the signals don't come from them. The signals come from machines."

"So who made the machines? That's who we want to contact."

"They made the machines. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Meat made the machines."

"That's ridiculous. How can meat make a machine? You're asking me to believe in sentient meat."

"I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. These creatures are the only sentient race in the sector and they're made out of meat."

"Maybe they're like the orfolei. You know, a carbon-based intelligence that goes through a meat stage."

"Nope. They're born meat and they die meat. We studied them for several of their life spams, which didn't take too long. Do you have any idea the life spam of meat?"

"Spare me. Okay, maybe they're only part meat. You know, like the weddilei. A meat head with an electron plamsa brain inside."

"Nope. We thought of that, since they do have meat heads like the weddilei. But I told you, we probed them. They're meat all the way through."

"No brain?"

"Oh, there is a brain all right. It's just that the brain is made out of meat!"

"So... what does the thinking?"

"You're not understanding, are you? The brain does the thinking. The meat."

"Thinking meat! You're asking me to believe in thinking meat!"

"Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal! Are you getting the picture?"

"Omigod. You're serious then. They're made out of meat."

"Finally. Yes, they are indeed made out meat. And they've been trying to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years."

"So what does the meat have in mind."

"First it wants to talk to us. Then I imagine it wants to explore the universe, contact other sentients, swap ideas and information. The usual."

"We're supposed to talk to meat?"

"That's the idea. That's the message they're sending out by radio. 'Hello. Anyone out there? Anyone home?' That sort of thing."

"They actually do talk, then. They use words, ideas, concepts?"

"Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat."

"I thought you just told me they used radio."

"They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat."

"Omigod. Singing meat. This is altogether too much. So what do you advise?"

"Officially or unofficially?"

"Both."

"Officially, we are required to contact, welcome, and log in any and all sentient races or multibeings in the quadrant, without prejudice, fear, or favor. Unofficially, I advise that we erase the reconds and forget the whole thing."

"I was hoping you would say that."

"It seems harsh, but there is a limit. Do we really want to make contact with meat?"

"I agree one hundred percent. What's there to say?" `Hello, meat. How's it going?' But will this work? How many planets are we dealing with here?"

"Just one. They can travel to other planets in special meat containers, but they can't live on them. And being meat, they only travel through C-space. which limits them to the speed of light and makes the possibility of their ever making contact pretty slim. Infinitesimal, in fact."

"So we just pretend there's no one home in the universe."

"That's it."

"Cruel. But you said it yourself, who wants to meet meat? And the ones who have been aboard our vessels, the ones you have probed? You're sure they won't remember?"

"They'll be considered crackpots if they do. We went into their heads and smoothed out their meat so that we're just a dream to them."

"A dream to meat! How strangely appropiate, that we should be meat's dream."

"And we can mark this sector unoccupied."

"Good. Agreed, officially and unofficially. Case closed. Any others? Anyone interesting on that side of the galaxy?"

"Yes, a rather shy but sweet hydrogen core cluster intelligence in a class nine star in G445 zone. Was in contact two galactic rotation ago, wants to be friendly again."

"They always come around."

"And why not? Imagine how unbearably, how unutterably cold the universe would be if one were all alone."
Now I know why they haven't been back. Took all the experiments they needed and left :( LOL Toooo funny!
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We got some tornado warnings here!


The National Weather Service in Jackson KY has issued a

* Tornado Warning for...
north central Clay County in southeast Kentucky...
Jackson County in southeast Kentucky...
Owsley County in southeast Kentucky...
northeastern Rockcastle County in south central Kentucky...

* until 500 PM EDT

* at 401 PM EDT... National Weather Service Doppler radar indicated a
severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado. This dangerous
storm was located near Sandgap... or 7 miles northwest of McKee...
and moving east at 35 mph.

* This dangerous storm will be near...
Macedonia... Bradshaw... McKee and Atkinstown around 415 PM EDT.
Privett... Turkey Foot... New Zion and Gray Hawk around 420 PM EDT.
Mummie... herd... Zekes Point and wild dog around 425 PM EDT.
Green Hall... elian and nathanton around 430 PM EDT.

Other locations impacted by this dangerous storm include New Zion...
Alger and Arnett.

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Quoting Patrap:
The Drake Equation



Description

The Drake Equation was developed by Frank Drake in 1961 as a way to focus on the factors which determine how many intelligent, communicating civilizations there are in our galaxy. The Drake Equation is:

N = N* fp ne fl fi fc fL

Great post Pat. I first saw it in Carl Sagan,s book Cosmos. It is very realistic, and certainly shows how very "unlikely" it is that we are alone in the Universe or even our galaxy.
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Quoting PlazaRed:

That's not fair, and neither is fly spry, chameleons, spiders or any other types of fly death machines as they wouldn't be as they all die or their operators do, in the absence of water. So there!
Whenever I kill a bug, I want to make sure it is dead. The only way is to see the guts. Ever try killing a scorpion? I wouldn't try it! When they get in the house, I capture them and throw them outside where they belong. Tried squashing one once and it wouldn't squash.
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Quoting ncstorm:


if thats the case, why put a slight risk on anyone if the storm hasnt even initiated yet? You cant verify a risk before a storm happens?

To get the word out. Once storms initiate, that's when the outlooks become adjusted and increase in accuracy.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Warnings don't verify risk areas, reports do.


if thats the case, why put a slight risk on anyone if the storm hasnt even initiated yet? You cant verify a risk before a storm happens?
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Quoting pottery:

I remember the Comet...
A lovely and pretty revolutionary commercial aircraft.
The 4 jet Engines were set into the wings.
Nice British engineering.
Around the same time as the Vulcan, which was a bomber.


Was the world's first production commercial jet airliner.

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Quoting kwgirl:
When I squashed it and saw it's guts run out :)

That's not fair, and neither is fly spry, chameleons, spiders or any other types of fly death machines as they wouldn't be as they all die or their operators do, in the absence of water. So there!
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Quoting PlazaRed:

FOOD!
They're made out of meat
A dialogue by Terry Bisson. From a series of stories entitled "Alien/Nation" in the April issue of Omni.

"They're made out of meat."

"Meat?"

"Meat. They're made out of meat."

"Meat?"

"There's no doubt about it. We picked several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, probed them all the through. They're completely meat."

"That's impossible. What about the radio signals? The messages to the stars."

"They use the radio waves to talk, but the signals don't come from them. The signals come from machines."

"So who made the machines? That's who we want to contact."

"They made the machines. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Meat made the machines."

"That's ridiculous. How can meat make a machine? You're asking me to believe in sentient meat."

"I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. These creatures are the only sentient race in the sector and they're made out of meat."

"Maybe they're like the orfolei. You know, a carbon-based intelligence that goes through a meat stage."

"Nope. They're born meat and they die meat. We studied them for several of their life spams, which didn't take too long. Do you have any idea the life spam of meat?"

"Spare me. Okay, maybe they're only part meat. You know, like the weddilei. A meat head with an electron plamsa brain inside."

"Nope. We thought of that, since they do have meat heads like the weddilei. But I told you, we probed them. They're meat all the way through."

"No brain?"

"Oh, there is a brain all right. It's just that the brain is made out of meat!"

"So... what does the thinking?"

"You're not understanding, are you? The brain does the thinking. The meat."

"Thinking meat! You're asking me to believe in thinking meat!"

"Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal! Are you getting the picture?"

"Omigod. You're serious then. They're made out of meat."

"Finally. Yes, they are indeed made out meat. And they've been trying to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years."

"So what does the meat have in mind."

"First it wants to talk to us. Then I imagine it wants to explore the universe, contact other sentients, swap ideas and information. The usual."

"We're supposed to talk to meat?"

"That's the idea. That's the message they're sending out by radio. 'Hello. Anyone out there? Anyone home?' That sort of thing."

"They actually do talk, then. They use words, ideas, concepts?"

"Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat."

"I thought you just told me they used radio."

"They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat."

"Omigod. Singing meat. This is altogether too much. So what do you advise?"

"Officially or unofficially?"

"Both."

"Officially, we are required to contact, welcome, and log in any and all sentient races or multibeings in the quadrant, without prejudice, fear, or favor. Unofficially, I advise that we erase the reconds and forget the whole thing."

"I was hoping you would say that."

"It seems harsh, but there is a limit. Do we really want to make contact with meat?"

"I agree one hundred percent. What's there to say?" `Hello, meat. How's it going?' But will this work? How many planets are we dealing with here?"

"Just one. They can travel to other planets in special meat containers, but they can't live on them. And being meat, they only travel through C-space. which limits them to the speed of light and makes the possibility of their ever making contact pretty slim. Infinitesimal, in fact."

"So we just pretend there's no one home in the universe."

"That's it."

"Cruel. But you said it yourself, who wants to meet meat? And the ones who have been aboard our vessels, the ones you have probed? You're sure they won't remember?"

"They'll be considered crackpots if they do. We went into their heads and smoothed out their meat so that we're just a dream to them."

"A dream to meat! How strangely appropiate, that we should be meat's dream."

"And we can mark this sector unoccupied."

"Good. Agreed, officially and unofficially. Case closed. Any others? Anyone interesting on that side of the galaxy?"

"Yes, a rather shy but sweet hydrogen core cluster intelligence in a class nine star in G445 zone. Was in contact two galactic rotation ago, wants to be friendly again."

"They always come around."

"And why not? Imagine how unbearably, how unutterably cold the universe would be if one were all alone."
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