First U.S. billion-dollar disaster of 2012: March 2-3 tornado outbreak

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 1:17 PM GMT on April 09, 2012

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The first billion-dollar weather disaster of 2012 for the U.S. was the March 2 - 3 tornado outbreak in the Midwest and Southeast, said NOAA today. They put the total cost of the tornadoes that killed 41 people in Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio, and Alabama at 1.5 billion. Global reinsurance company AON Benfield, in their latest monthly Global Catastrophe Recap Report, put the damage at $2 billion. The outbreak spawned two EF-4 tornadoes, one which devastated Henryville, Indiana, and another that plowed through Crittenden, Kentucky. The two other tornado outbreaks of note that occurred in February and March had damages less than $1 billion: the Leap Day tornadoes in Illinois and surrounding states ($475 million), and the Dexter, Michigan tornado EF-3 tornado of March 15 ($275 million.) I expect that the tornadoes that swept through the Dallas, Texas region last week will likely have a damage tally in the hundreds of millions, but fall short of the billion-dollar mark. In 2011, we already had two billion-dollar weather-related disasters by the first week of April, so we are behind last year's pace. NOAA's National Climatic Data Center logged a record fourteen billion-dollar weather disasters in 2011. There has been just one other billion-dollar disaster in the world this year, according to AON Benfield--severe flooding in Australia's New South Wales and Victoria states in late February and early March that caused $1.58 billion in damage. A separate flooding episode in late January and early February caused an additional $920 million in damage in Australia.


Figure 1. A school bus mangled by the EF-4 Henryville, Indiana tornado of March 2, 2012. Image credit: NWS Louisville, Kentucky.



A week for severe severe weather across the Plains and Midwest
Expect severe weather and tornadoes every day this week across the Plains and Midwest U.S., says NOAA's Storm Prediction Center (SPC). A warm, unstable airmass will collide with cold air funneling down from Canada most of the week, creating conditions ripe for severe thunderstorms and tornadoes all week. The main focus of severe weather today will be over Western Oklahoma and portions of the Texas Panhandle, where SPC has issued their lowest highest level of alert, a "Slight Risk."


Figure 2. Severe weather threat for Monday, April 9, 2012.


Video 1. Wunderground tornado expert Dr. Rob Carver alerted me to this remarkable railroad surveillance video recently posted to YouTube that captures a train derailed by a Tornado January 7, 2008 in Harvard, IL. The tornado moved across the Chicago and Northwestern railroad where it blew 12 railroad freight cars off the track. The train was moving at the time the tornado hit it, so as the main engine stopped, the remaining cars on the track continued along it and slammed into the front part of the train. No one was injured, but 500 residents in the nearby unincorporated town of Lawrence were evacuated because of the potential for a hazardous materials situation.

Jeff Masters

tornado damage 3/2/12 (clerese3)
3/2/12 tornado damage to a business I pass on my way to and from work. This was a beautiful brick building.
tornado damage 3/2/12
Franklin Tornado/Mesocyclone (BySurasWeather)
Beginning of Tornado in Franklin, NC. Taken by a local Wal Mart Worker and was uploaded to Weather Channel on March 2, 2012
Franklin Tornado/Mesocyclone
Tornado (JimAtTn)
This picture of a small tornado was taken on Friday March 02, 2012 in southern Lincoln County, Tennessee about 7 miles south of Fayetteville. Photographer: Angela Currey-Echols
Tornado
Lumberton Lightning (TopekaStormChasers)
This pic was taken last night near Lumberton Mississippi
Lumberton Lightning

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556. hydrus
4:47 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting ncstorm:


try the PSU E-Wall..it goes to 240 hours

Thank you.
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555. GeorgiaStormz
3:22 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
apparently it came out an hour ago. lol.
that would be a good troll trick though, post NEW BLOG and send everyone scrambling...
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554. nrtiwlnvragn
3:18 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
NEW BLOG
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553. GeorgiaStormz
3:16 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting StormTracker2K:


I just rain the Euro precip map out to 180hrs and it shows a squall line forming near the upper TX coast extending over to LA & Ark.


isnt that so much better than your other site?
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552. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
3:15 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
144 hrs out not bad 120 hrs out is better
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551. PlazaRed
3:15 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting hydrus:
This is a superb post, and while some will say it is not on topic, it was an absolute pleasure to read on this gloomy and rather cold Middle Tennessee morning..Thank you Jeff

I was impressed by that "troll identification" post as well.
So this is the time in this quiet laid back off season to perhaps, persuade, coerce,trick or tempt one or more of the ardent chart bloggers into producing a chart of "Troll hotspots."
I am sure with the available information of IP addresses and the trollic references to local landmarks, a reasonably accurate "Troll spotters map," could be drawn up, then with the aid of this, counselling and after care could be offered. Out there, there must be thousands of mediocre people only too happy to listen to the bleatings of a distressed troll and as there is nothing much happening in the off season then we could organise 'Troll awareness day,'on which they can come out and openly confess to their inadequacies and needs to attract attention.
They could even have their own blog, on which they attempt to confuse normal people into being like them.
Trollitus, is not a terminal condition, its simple a matter of the correct treatment!
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550. StormTracker2K
3:14 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
the CMC reminds me of the April 14-16 outbreak from last year, form south MS, AL, and GA, and then to the Carolinas.


I just rain the Euro precip map out to 180hrs and it shows a squall line forming near the upper TX coast extending over to LA & Ark.
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549. ncstorm
3:14 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
240 hrs out isn't that out near the twilight zone


For the CMC, of course but I thought he was looking for the long range model
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548. GeorgiaStormz
3:13 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
240 hrs out isn't that out near the twilight zone


beyond it with the CMC
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547. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
3:12 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting ncstorm:


try the PSU E-Wall..it goes to 240 hours

240 hrs out isn't that out near the twilight zone
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546. StormTracker2K
3:09 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


wunderground , maps and radar, model maps


I didn't know that thank you!
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545. GeorgiaStormz
3:08 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
the CMC reminds me of the April 14-16 outbreak from last year, form south MS, AL, and GA, and then to the Carolinas.
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544. LargoFl
3:08 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
81 here as of this moment and dry as a bone in Florida.............looks like its real windy up along the northern coastline around D.C.............HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
809 AM EDT TUE APR 10 2012

ANZ530>543-DCZ001-MDZ006-007-011-013-014-016>018- VAZ052>057-
111000-
CHESAPEAKE BAY NORTH OF POOLES ISLAND MD-
CHESAPEAKE BAY FROM POOLES ISLAND TO SANDY POINT MD-
CHESAPEAKE BAY FROM SANDY POINT TO NORTH BEACH MD-
CHESAPEAKE BAY FROM NORTH BEACH TO DRUM POINT MD-
CHESAPEAKE BAY FROM DRUM POINT MD TO SMITH POINT VA-
TIDAL POTOMAC FROM KEY BRIDGE TO INDIAN HEAD MD-
TIDAL POTOMAC FROM INDIAN HEAD TO COBB ISLAND MD-
TIDAL POTOMAC FROM COBB ISLAND MD TO SMITH POINT VA-
PATAPSCO RIVER INCLUDING BALTIMORE HARBOR-
CHESTER RIVER TO QUEENSTOWN MD-EASTERN BAY-
CHOPTANK RIVER TO CAMBRIDGE MD AND THE LITTLE CHOPTANK RIVER-
PATUXENT RIVER TO BROOMES ISLAND MD-
TANGIER SOUND AND THE INLAND WATERS SURROUNDING BLOODSWORTH
ISLAND-DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA-NORTHERN BALTIMORE-HARFORD-
SOUTHERN BALTIMORE-PRINCE GEORGES-ANNE ARUNDEL-CHARLES-ST. MARYS-
CALVERT-PRINCE WILLIAM/MANASSAS/MANASSAS PARK-FAIRFAX-
ARLINGTON/FALLS CHURCH/ALEXANDRIA-STAFFORD-SPOTSYLVANIA-
KING GEORGE-
809 AM EDT TUE APR 10 2012

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR THE MARYLAND PORTION OF THE
CHESAPEAKE BAY...TIDAL POTOMAC RIVER...AND ADJACENT COUNTIES IN
CENTRAL MARYLAND AND NORTHERN VIRGINIA AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT OF
COLUMBIA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT

A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT FOR ALL OF THE WATERS UNTIL 8
PM THIS EVENING. THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CONTINUES THROUGH
TONIGHT FOR THE MARYLAND CHESAPEAKE BAY SOUTH OF POOLES ISLAND AND
THE LOWER TIDAL POTOMAC RIVER FROM COBB ISLAND TO SMITH POINT.

A RED FLAG WARNING IS IN EFFECT THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING
FOR THE OUTLOOK AREA. PLEASE REFER TO THE LATEST HAZARD MESSAGE
/WBCRFWLWX/ FOR FURTHER DETAILS.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY

A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT WEDNESDAY FOR THE WATERS. A
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY WILL LIKELY BE NEEDED FOR PORTIONS OF THE
WATERS WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY.

LOW TEMPERATURES EARLY THURSDAY MORNING WILL APPROACH 32 DEGREES
NORTH AND WEST OF INTERSTATE 95.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

SPOTTER ACTIVATION IS NOT EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.

$$
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543. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
3:07 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting Neapolitan:
Well, it won't melt anytime soon; the ice sheet is about a mile thick on average and it covers an area of several million square miles. But then again, it need only melt a little bit in order to have some effect--and it's already melted that "little bit".
my son tells me one day it will just be a big ice mine where we will chop it away and transport it in big ships all over the world for fresh drinking water
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542. ncstorm
3:04 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting hydrus:
This one only goes to 144 hours.


try the PSU E-Wall..it goes to 240 hours

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541. LargoFl
3:04 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting hydrus:
If you can provide a link to this, please post it, if not, thank you for posting this one.
I hope it has some rain along with it and it reaches Florida
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540. GeorgiaStormz
3:03 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting StormTracker2K:


Where did you find that?


wunderground , maps and radar, model maps
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539. Neapolitan
3:03 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting weatherh98:


God... I hope that the Antarctic doesn't melt because then we would be in deep doo doo( maybe water too) haha
Well, it won't melt anytime soon; the ice sheet is about a mile thick on average and it covers an area of several million square miles. But then again, it need only melt a little bit in order to have some effect--and it's already melted that "little bit".
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538. ncstorm
3:03 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


boy is that waaaaay different from the dying cutoff low being absorbed into a weak trough and moving off the NE coast.
That actually looks somewhat dangerous.
But the GFS has kicked butt with the cutoff lows this year so we wills see....

I am now officially a Euro fan until further notice.


The GFS has major issues when it comes to long range as we called them the "fantasy runs" especially during hurricane season. It loves to predict Cat 5's 340 hours out. The Euro also had issues too especially during Irene in predicting intensity but still out perform any of the other models. The CMC stands for Canadian Model on Crack. Poor performer but fun to look at none the less. I forgot what we use to call the NGP and the NAM is basically its name..a NAM, however it did pretty well last season with Lee. Cant wait for the posting of model runs when hurricane season starts!
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537. StormTracker2K
3:00 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:
on the euro:


maybe it will go negative


Where did you find that?
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536. StormTracker2K
2:59 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting hydrus:
If you can provide a link to this, please post it, if not, thank you for posting this one.


This link has all of the models on it.

Link
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535. GeorgiaStormz
2:58 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
on the euro:


maybe it will go negative
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534. StormTracker2K
2:57 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


boy is that waaaaay different from the dying cutoff low being absorbed into a weak trough and moving off the NE coast.
That actually looks somewhat dangerous.
But the GFS has kicked butt with the cutoff lows this year so we wills see....

I am now officially a Euro fan until further notice.


Euro is somewhat similar to the CMC and in almost the same timeframe.

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533. hydrus
2:56 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting StormTracker2K:


180 hours. Next Tuesday
This one only goes to 144 hours.
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532. StormTracker2K
2:54 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting MTWX:


What timeframe? (eyes can't read the type at the bottom)


If it can stay as an open trough and not cut off then I think the severe wx chances will be much higher next week across the south from LA over to FL and up to the Carolina's.
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531. GeorgiaStormz
2:53 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting StormTracker2K:
CMC model show a pretty good risk for severe wx across the SE US and so does the Euro.




boy is that waaaaay different from the dying cutoff low being absorbed into a weak trough and moving off the NE coast.
That actually looks somewhat dangerous.
But the GFS has kicked butt with the cutoff lows this year so we wills see....

I am now officially a Euro fan until further notice.
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530. hydrus
2:53 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting StormTracker2K:
CMC model show a pretty good risk for severe wx across the SE US and so does the Euro.


If you can provide a link to this, please post it, if not, thank you for posting this one.
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529. StormTracker2K
2:52 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting MTWX:


What timeframe? (eyes can't read the type at the bottom)


180 hours. Next Tuesday
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528. weatherh98
2:50 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting jeffs713:
First you say it, then you do it.
?
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527. MTWX
2:47 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting StormTracker2K:
CMC model show a pretty good risk for severe wx across the SE US and so does the Euro.




What timeframe? (eyes can't read the type at the bottom)
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526. jeffs713
2:47 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
First you say it, then you do it.
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525. weatherh98
2:47 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting Neapolitan:
Antarctica and the Arctic are two very different things, of course. For starters, the former is a continent surround by oceans, while the latter is an ocean surrounded by continents. Because of this, there are different mechanics at work between the two.

Now, it's true that Antarctic sea ice has been increasing. But there are reasons for that, one of them being that because land ice is melting, fresh water is being dumped into the surrounding oceans, and fresh water--as you may recall--freezes more quickly than salt water. The most important thing to note, however, is that Antarctica's land is losing between 100 gigatonnes and 300 gigatonnes of ice every year. That is, the Antarctic ice sheet is rapidly melting away, and adding many millimeters to global sea level rise.

Another way to put it: increasing sea ice around Antarctica is a bad sign.


God... I hope that the Antarctic doesn't melt because then we would be in deep doo doo( maybe water too) haha
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524. StormTracker2K
2:44 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
CMC model show a pretty good risk for severe wx across the SE US and so does the Euro.


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523. Neapolitan
2:40 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting weatherh98:
I was looking at a chart of Antarctic sea ice and it appeared that whenever there was a lot of arctic ice there was less Antarctic ice and the reverse... For example 1980 had EXTREMELY low levels of ice but the last few years it has increased.
Antarctica and the Arctic are two very different things, of course. For starters, the former is a continent surround by oceans, while the latter is an ocean surrounded by continents. Because of this, there are different mechanics at work between the two.

Now, it's true that Antarctic sea ice has been increasing. But there are reasons for that, one of them being that because land ice is melting, fresh water is being dumped into the surrounding oceans, and fresh water--as you may recall--freezes more quickly than salt water. The most important thing to note, however, is that Antarctica's land is losing between 100 gigatonnes and 300 gigatonnes of ice every year. That is, the Antarctic ice sheet is rapidly melting away, and adding many millimeters to global sea level rise.

Another way to put it: increasing sea ice around Antarctica is a bad sign.
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522. jeffs713
2:39 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting weatherh98:
I was looking at a chart of Antarctic sea ice and it appeared that whenever there was a lot of arctic ice there was less Antarctic ice and the reverse... For example 1980 had EXTREMELY low levels of ice but the last few years it has increased.

To some degree, but its not always a proportional relationship. Also, the two areas have their peaks at different times, and have drastically different factors at play.

For example -
Antarctic ice is mostly land-bound, fed by glaciers, and surrounded by water. There is also a current that circumnavigates the globe around Antarctica, along with a very strong polar vortex.
Arctic ice is only partially land-bound, it is not fed by glaciers, and it is not surrounded by water. Additionally, currents around the arctic frequently intrude upon or erode the icepack (Gulf Stream, Kuroshio current), and the polar vortex has more variations due to the influence of land and mountains (Siberia, the Canadian Rockies).

All of that working together generally makes the Arctic more sensitive to small changes, and the Antarctic more resilient to small changes. That said, the global factors at play influence the ice packs in vastly different ways.
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521. StormTracker2K
2:38 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Rot Roh!



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520. GeorgiaStormz
2:37 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
temps down to 35 at my house this week, could hurt some plants.
Highs not going to make it to 70 either.

And for pet owners although this is geared to Georgians, this is still a good read:
Link
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519. washingtonian115
2:34 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Who is Tigerosse?
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518. PlazaRed
2:34 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting weatherh98:
I was looking at a chart of Antarctic sea ice and it appeared that whenever there was a lot of arctic ice there was less Antarctic ice and the reverse... For example 1980 had EXTREMELY low levels of ice but the last few years it has increased.

Large chunks of it are breaking off and floating away/melting in situ.
Ross ice shelf is one of them and I'm sure all the rest will be well documented as well.
Then take a look at glacier ice loss in the Southern Hemisphere, all that water has to go somewhere and it usually goes downhill.
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517. jeffs713
2:32 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting hydrus:
This is a superb post, and while some will say it is not on topic, it was an absolute pleasure to read on this gloomy and rather cold Middle Tennessee morning..Thank you Jeff
You are most welcome, hydrus!

Quoting Minnemike:
it's good to see folks getting each others' backs in the name of fact and actuality :)
we may experience a better season here as a result.
but i won't hold my breath on it ;)
rather idiomatic.. dontcha know

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath either, since talking about facts during the season is kinda like trying to hold a conversation standing next to a 747 on takeoff.
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516. weatherh98
2:28 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
I was looking at a chart of Antarctic sea ice and it appeared that whenever there was a lot of arctic ice there was less Antarctic ice and the reverse... For example 1980 had EXTREMELY low levels of ice but the last few years it has increased.
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515. PlazaRed
2:26 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Noting:-478. weatherh98,

Quotes:-
1,Thanks dude , at least we arent way below average..
2,Dude, it's so close to average...

Average is for those who want to reflect,dwell and reminisce. Average, is for historians and also rans!
My average wage used to be $30 a month, then it got to be $3000 a month, so the average was $1515/month.
These figures have no bearing on the fact that I am currently on the welfare on $200 a month.(Example,)
Average is history and just look at what has happened to averages in the US in the month of March.
That Chart that Nea posted at:-476. Neapolitan, could be very significant, as it may show the beginning of a decline of sea ice levels to almost zero. The indicated fact that ice levels are still high on the chart may merely indicate the point from which they are about to fall!
I have never contested that I might be right on these things but I also never wanted anybody to say when its too late," I wish somebody had told us to listen!"
CO2=400/Million, Ice; probably has no chance.
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514. Minnemike
2:26 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
it's good to see folks getting each others' backs in the name of fact and actuality :)
we may experience a better season here as a result.
but i won't hold my breath on it ;)
rather idiomatic.. dontcha know
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513. Jax82
2:21 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Cough Cough, this was yesterdays MODIS image, the winds are blowing it right into Jax again today. Smelly.

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512. StormTracker2K
2:18 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting Minnemike:
following your comments, regarding the NWS call thing... that was an impostor and Not StormTracker2K.
fyi
the real StormTracker2K has been making rational and mature contributions to this blog. watch out for trolls and impostors!!


Thank you!
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511. MTWX
2:18 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting Minnemike:
following your comments, regarding the NWS call thing... that was an impostor and Not StormTracker2K.
fyi
the real StormTracker2K has been making rational and mature contributions to this blog. watch out for trolls and impostors!!


That's right. If I recall, the imposter used the name SlormTracker2K. There are many times on here that I have seen trolls use subtle deviations of real members to soil their names and reputations. You have to be careful who you are actually talking to and/or about.
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510. hydrus
2:17 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting jeffs713:
480. Asking for "proof" of trolling on the internet is kinda like asking your shrink (whom you may want to go see, by the way) for "proof" that you have a mental disorder. There is no "proof" of trolling on the internet. Trolling is, by its very nature, a subjective judgement. All one can do is show evidence of the behavior, make your own judgement, and move on.

As it stands right now, in my disinterested third-party view, you are trolling. Here's why:
1. Your start date is VERY young... just a week old now. Yet you post like you've been here before.
2. Most normal people (i.e. non-trolls) don't make handles with lots of repeating letters, like swampdooooogggggggg. You don't see many reputable posters who have handles like weatherduuuuudddeeee.
3. Post # 420, 448, and 457 all shows signs of trolling.
4. You have an unhealthy obsession with a fairly well-respected member of the community, who posts pertinent and factual comments here. (Nea does post some editorial content, but by and large, the content of his posts are factual in nature, and not trolling).

So, based on the 4 above pieces of evidence, it is my judgement that you are a troll. Have a nice day.
This is a superb post, and while some will say it is not on topic, it was an absolute pleasure to read on this gloomy and rather cold Middle Tennessee morning..Thank you Jeff
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509. ncstorm
2:11 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
SPC increased the potential area.they took florida out of the equation though



Day 2 also increased..

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508. Minnemike
2:10 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting NEFL:


I'm afraid i'm not mistaking. You have circumvented many bans Jeff9641.
following your comments, regarding the NWS call thing... that was an impostor and Not StormTracker2K.
fyi
the real StormTracker2K has been making rational and mature contributions to this blog. watch out for trolls and impostors!!
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507. redux
2:09 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting skook:



Link



the problem with looking at ice extent is it makes no distinction between ice that is thick and ice that is thin.

with respect to the arctic, the big issue is the decline in the thick, multi year ice. new, thin ice tends to melt quickly.

people are very concerned about this melting season.
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506. weatherh98
1:59 PM GMT on April 10, 2012
Quoting washingtonian115:
I suspect that TCHP will shoot up in the next couple of weeks to in the Caribbean and Gulf.


That's supposed to happen these days of the year haa
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