Summer in March, 2012, draws to a close

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:54 PM GMT on March 23, 2012

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The most incredible spring heat wave in U.S. and Canadian recorded history is finally drawing to a close today, after a ten-day stretch of unprecedented record-smashing intensity. Since record keeping began in the late 1800s, there have never been so many spring temperature records broken, and by such a large margin. Airports in fifteen different states have set all-time records for March warmth, which is truly extraordinary considering that the records were set in the middle of the month, instead of the end of the month. The 29.2°C (85°F) measured at Western Head, Nova Scotia yesterday was the third warmest temperature ever recorded in Canada in March, according to Environment Canada and weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera (top two records: 31.1°C at Alberini Beaver Creek BC on March 29th 1926, and 29.4°C in 1921 at Wallaceburg.) Michigan's all-time record for March warmth was toppled on Wednesday, when the mercury hit 90°F at Lapeer. The previous record, 89° at Lapeer in 1910, was matched at three stations yesterday--Ypsilanti, Dearborn, and Lapeer. The duration, areal size, and intensity of the Summer in March, 2012 heat wave are simply off-scale, and the event ranks as one of North America's most extraordinary weather events in recorded history. Such a historic event is difficult to summarize, and in today's post I will offer just a few of the most notable highlights.


Figure 1. Clear skies over the Eastern U.S. caused by a blocking ridge of high pressure on March 21, 2012, are apparent in this visible satellite image. The comma-shaped cloud pattern over the Central U.S. is associated with a "cut-off" low pressure system. This low is moving over the Eastern U.S. today through Saturday, and will bring an end to "Summer in March" over the U.S. and Canada. Image credit: NOAA's Environmental Visualization Lab, and modified by Andrew Freedman of Climate Central.

Low temperatures beating previous high temperature records for the date
I've never seen a case where the low temperature for the date beat the previous record high. This happened on at least four occasions during "Summer in March, 2012":

The low temperature at Marquette, Michigan hit 52° on March 21, which was 3° warmer than the previous record high for the date.

The low at Mt. Washington, NH on March 21 (44°) beat the previous record high for the date (43°.)

The low temperature for International Falls, Minnesota on March 20 bottomed out at 60°F, tying the previous record high for the date.

The low temperature in Rochester, Minnesota on March 18 was 62°F, which beat the previous record high for the date of 60°.

Breaking all-time April records for warmth in March
Not only did many locations in Canada set records for their all-time warmest March day during "Summer in March, 2012", a number also broke their record for warmest April day:

St. John, New Brunswick hit 27.2°C (81°F) on March 21. Previous March record: 17.5°C on March 21, 1994. April record: 22.8°C.

Kejimkujik Park, Nova Scotia hit 27.9°C on March 21. Previous March record: 22.5°C on March 30, 1986. April record: 25°C on April 27, 1990.

Yesterday, I reported that Halifax, Nova Scotia hit 27.2°C (81°F) on March 22, 2012. Previous March record: 25.8° set the previous day. April record: 26.3°C, set on April 30, 2004. However, Rob Paola, a meteorologist with Environment Canada's Prairie and Arctic Storm Prediction Center in Winnipeg, Manitoba, wrote to tell me that Halifax did not break its April record: In fact, Halifax recorded a temperature of 29.5°C on April 28, 2009. For some reason, that stat does not show up on EC's normal/extremes climate site for Halifax, which only has data up to 2006 for extremes. More details on my blog at http://robsobsblog.blogspot.ca/

Breaking daily temperature records by more than 30°F
It is exceptionally rare for a weather station with a 50+ year period of record to break a daily temperature record by more than 10°F. During "Summer in March, 2012", beating daily records by 10° - 20°F was commonplace, and many records were smashed by over 20°. Two stations broke records by more than 30°F, which is truly surreal. Western Head, Nova Scotia hit 29.2°C (85°F), yesterday, breaking their previous record for the date (10.6°C in 1969) by 18.6°C (33°F.) Yesterday's high temperature was 24°C (44°F) above average. Pellston, Michigan in the Northern Lower Peninsula--dubbed "Michigan's Icebox", since it frequently records the coldest temperatures in the state--hit 85° on March 21. This broke the previous record for the date (53° in 2007) by 32°, and was an absurd 48°F above average.

Breaking daily temperature records nine consecutive days or more
It is extremely rare for stations with a 50+ year period of record to break a daily high temperature record for seven or more days in a row. The longest such streak of consecutive high temperature records at International Falls, Minnesota, was a 5-day period March 3 - 7, 2000. The city has tied or broken their high temperature for the date ten consecutive days, as of yesterday. This streak will likely end today, as the high is predicted to be 60 - 65, and the record high for the date is 66. Chicago, Illinois has tied or broken their daily high temperature record the past nine days in a row. This ties the nine-day streak of record highs set on August 26 - September 3, 1953. Other cites that have set daily high temperature records the past nine days in a row include Fort Wayne and South Bend, Indiana. Numerous cities have broken high temperature records on seven consecutive days during "Summer in March, 2012", including Gaylord, Pellston, and Traverse City in Michigan.


Figure 2. All-time high temperature records set in March 2012 for the U.S. The grey icons show locations where the March record was broken on multiple days. Image taken from wunderground's new record extremes page, using data from NOAA's National Climatic Data Center.

The big picture: the impacts of "Summer in March, 2012"
I've always said living in Michigan would be much more bearable if we could just get rid of March. March weather here is always horrible, with brutal cold, high winds, damaging ice storms, heavy snow, interminable cloudy stretches with no sun, all interspersed with a few teasing warm spells. Well, this year, I got my wish. This March, we started with twelve days of April weather, followed by ten days of June and July weather, with nine days of May weather predicted to round out the month. This has been a huge benefit to the economy--vastly reduced heating costs, no snow removal bills, and far fewer traffic accidents due to icy roads. However, there is major downside to the "Summer in March, 2012" heat wave. The growing season is now in full swing, five weeks early. A damaging freeze that will severely impact the fruit industry and other sensitive plants is very likely. Indeed, the forecast calls for lows in the upper 20s in the cherry-growing region of Michigan near Traverse City on Monday night. The exceptional March warmth has also melted all the snow in the northern U.S. and southern Canada, drying out the soils and setting the stage for a much warmer than average summer, and an increased chance of damaging drought conditions. The early loss of snowpack will also likely cause very low flow rates in the major rivers in late summer and early fall, reducing the amount of water needed for irrigation of crops. Low flows may also cause problems for navigation, limiting commercial barge traffic on Midwest rivers.

Links
Andrew Freedman of Climate Central interviewed a number of climate scientists who are experts in studying the link between extreme weather events and climate change for his post, Global Warming May Have Fueled March Heat Wave Odds.

Wunderground's weather historian Christopher C. Burt will be posting a more comprehensive summary of the "Summer in March, 2012" heat wave this weekend.

Have a great weekend, everyone, and I'll be back Monday with a new post. I expect I'll be hard at work this weekend, mowing my lawn for the first time ever in March!

Jeff Masters

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Hey now, I'm off today. I'd rather not hear about "that" place.
I'm going shopping there tomorrow :).
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It's the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Rawr!


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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
maybe wal-mart has a special on they are all there looking at the people of wal-mart


Hey now, I'm off today. I'd rather not hear about "that" place.
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Quoting KoritheMan:
Geez this blog is empty for a Friday night.
maybe wal-mart has a special on they are all there looking at the people of wal-mart
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Returning Sunspot 1431 produced a moderate M1.0 Solar Flare at 19:40 UTC on March 23, 2012. This video includes movies by SDO. The region is located close to the limb, however will continue to rotate into a better Earth position.

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Quoting TomTaylor:
got an interesting shape to it



It's the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Rawr!
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Quoting bappit:
It seems Levi made a misleading post. 30F over average is not all that unusual in my experience. 30F over the previous record high is not. From what BobWallace posted:



No. How about you read the NWS's description of the month and compare to today. Never-before seen heat, though yes the record lengths were shorter then, and conditions typical of April and May instead of March. 85 degree temperatures in Michigan. The monthly averages were in fact very similar (at least so far this month):



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Geez this blog is empty for a Friday night.
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good evening all
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Until Ethan redux wipes out the entire state.

Remember, he's strong and enduring.


Well Earl, Ernesto, and Edouard haven't been retired yet, so...

ETA: Furthermore, how can there be an Ethan "redux" when we've never had an Ethan in the first place? o_o
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Quoting KoritheMan:


My state can't seem to catch a break. However, nature may be both powerful and incapable of being tamed, but I can say the same for our spirits. Gustav redux may demolish Baton Rouge, Katrina redux may flood New Orleans, but we will come back strong every time.

Until Ethan redux wipes out the entire state.

Remember, he's strong and enduring.
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Quoting LargoFl:
gee i think your right there


My state can't seem to catch a break. However, nature may be both powerful and incapable of being tamed, but I can say the same for our spirits. Gustav redux may demolish Baton Rouge, Katrina redux may flood New Orleans, but we will come back strong every time.
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geez the weather up there must really be terrible!:SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE INDIANAPOLIS IN
652 PM EDT FRI MAR 23 2012

INC013-105-109-232315-
/O.CON.KIND.TO.W.0012.000000T0000Z-120323T2315Z/
BROWN-MONROE-MORGAN-
652 PM EDT FRI MAR 23 2012

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR NORTHWESTERN BROWN...
NORTHERN MONROE AND SOUTHEASTERN MORGAN COUNTIES UNTIL 715 PM EDT...

AT 650 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO. THIS DANGEROUS
STORM WAS LOCATED NEAR BLOOMINGTON...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 25 MPH.

LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
UNIONVILLE...YELLOWWOOD LAKE...LAKE LEMON...HELMSBURG...BEANBLOSSOM
AND MAHALASVILLE.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

TAKE COVER NOW. MOVE TO AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF A
STURDY BUILDING. AVOID WINDOWS. IF IN A MOBILE HOME...A VEHICLE OR
OUTDOORS...MOVE TO THE CLOSEST SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER AND PROTECT
YOURSELF FROM FLYING DEBRIS.

TO REPORT SEVERE WEATHER...CONTACT YOUR NEAREST LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCY. THEY WILL RELAY YOUR REPORT TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
IN INDIANAPOLIS.

&&

LAT...LON 3920 8662 3942 8645 3940 8628 3934 8625
3934 8624 3927 8619 3909 8646
TIME...MOT...LOC 2252Z 220DEG 21KT 3918 8643

$$

JAS
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BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSONVILLE FL
618 PM EDT FRI MAR 23 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN JACKSONVILLE HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...
SOUTHWESTERN CAMDEN COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST GEORGIA
NORTHERN NASSAU COUNTY IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA

* UNTIL 700 PM EDT

* AT 618 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS WERE
TRACKING A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING QUARTER SIZE
HAIL...AND DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THIS STORM WAS
LOCATED NEAR HILLIARD...AND MOVING NORTHEAST AT 10 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO KINGS
FERRY AND KINGSLAND.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

REPORT SEVERE WEATHER OR DAMAGE TO THE NEAREST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY
OR YOUR COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

&&

LAT...LON 3094 8177 3076 8161 3063 8191 3075 8198
TIME...MOT...LOC 2218Z 238DEG 9KT 3075 8187

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Quoting KoritheMan:


There's likely still oil in the subsurface. A spill of that magnitude doesn't just disappear. I suspect we'll be hearing more stories, like the one about the dolphin, over the course of many years.
gee i think your right there
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Quoting hydrus:
19-degrees sounds downright chilly after the warm weather alot of us have had. Read an ENSO report that mentioned the chance of neutral conditions this summer. If that were to happen, the Cape Verde season may not be very active because of water temps, fewer Easterly Waves and dust, but the Caribbean and the gulf may have some strong activity...Just me harmless opinion..:) Looks like a storm not far from you..

Moisture is quite abundant......what's up hydrus?
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Quoting Neapolitan:
This was talked about last night, but verified today:

"Hailstone sets state record for Hawaii

A hailstone with the diameter of roughly that of a grapefruit that hit Oahu on March 9, 2012, has been confirmed as the largest hailstone on record for the state of Hawaii.

"The final measurement of the hailstone was 4 1/4 inches long, 2 1/4 inches tall, and 2 inches wide,"
said Michael Cantin, warning coordination meteorologist at NOAA’s National Weather Service in Honolulu, which, along with NOAA's State Climate Extremes Committee, confirmed the new state record. "According to hail report records for Hawaii kept back to 1950 the previous state record hailstone was 1 inch in diameter."
got an interesting shape to it

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Quoting BobWallace:


I'm so experienced with trees getting fooled.

Spring weather here can see a few days of t-shirt weather which causes the fruit trees to blossom and then we get a cold snap which kills the blooms.

I planted my orchard on the north side of a section of forest in an attempt to keep my fruit trees dormant as long as possible, but that doesn't always work. I get peaches about one out of every three years.

I've had small apples set on the tree and then a late freeze take them off, but that's uncommon.

The best bet for fruit here is day-neutral strawberries because they bloom from well before the frosts are done until the first killing frost of the late fall whacks them.

If this round of hot mid-continent weather has brought out blooms it will only take a few hours of frost to do them in....


Growers here in the mountains of WV have peaches in full bloom, 3-4 weeks ahead of schedule. Apples are not far behind. Orchards are big business in the eastern panhandle, and I'm worried about the predicted cool-down. If the peach and apple crops freeze, it will only add to the economic woes of an already disadvantaged area. We gave up on our home orchard years ago, due to deer damage and spring freezes.

On the up side, I rarely get to see the magnolias in such glory. They really aren't very hardy in this region (at least that's how it used to be) but the summer weather has done the trick. I will enjoy them until the weekend is over, I suppose.
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Quoting LargoFl:
man i remember that one, really hurt the fishing even way over here


There's likely still oil in the subsurface. A spill of that magnitude doesn't just disappear. I suspect we'll be hearing more stories, like the one about the dolphin, over the course of many years.
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Quoting Jedkins01:



Why should I waste my time attempting to convince people on a blog who don't want to know? I can only hope a change of heart occurs. Even if I did, I know it wouldn't convince you.
Wow, come on Jedkins, don't play the "I have reasons, but nobody wants to hear them" game. If you are going to make claims at least back yourself up.
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Quoting Patrap:
Deep Water Horizon

man i remember that one, really hurt the fishing even way over here
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Quoting OracleDeAtlantis:
Bloomington,IN your sirens should be singing.
gee guys, heed the warning
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Bloomington,IN your sirens should be singing.
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Quoting Jedkins01:



Why should I waste my time attempting to convince people on a blog who don't want to know? I can only hope a change of heart occurs. Even if I did, I know it wouldn't convince you.


Drill Baby Drill? Really? No, it may come to your shock that I am very environmentally conscious. I'm sure you're convinced that must not be possible since I'm one of the "deniers". Alright, I probably should be excommunicated out of the church for where I stand, but, I'm ok with that.


Don't try to convince us by claiming that you know best. That you somehow know more than the smart kids who went on to graduate school, studied for several years, and then spent years doing research.

Show us high quality data that convince you and explain the physics. Weather and climate are not magic.

We know what CO2 in the atmosphere does. We know how much we have put there. We can see global temperature records.

Show us the data that proves CO2 levels are not what the climate scientists are reporting. Or how CO2 really doesn't trap heat. Or that the Earth really isn't warming.

Give us a scientific explanation why climate change isn't happening. Don't try to deny by accusing scientists of being liars. That dog don't even scratch fleas much less hunt....

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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
I apologize (and apologize in advance) to anybody I may offend with my words this afternoon. I am on a very short fuse today.
I woke up on the wrong side of the bed as well.

Better watch out ... ;)
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Quoting PlazaRed:

The main problem that might come to light in the near future with this "warm spell," is that it has been long enough to tempt, (for want of a better word, as fool doesn't seem appropriate for a tree,)the fruit trees into going into early blossom, when/if a cold snap comes along the trees will probably shed their set fruit and either abandon the season or go into a second flowering much later in the season, as sometimes happens in Europe with apples which can also rarely blossom in the autumn.


I'm so experienced with trees getting fooled.

Spring weather here can see a few days of t-shirt weather which causes the fruit trees to blossom and then we get a cold snap which kills the blooms.

I planted my orchard on the north side of a section of forest in an attempt to keep my fruit trees dormant as long as possible, but that doesn't always work. I get peaches about one out of every three years.

I've had small apples set on the tree and then a late freeze take them off, but that's uncommon.

The best bet for fruit here is day-neutral strawberries because they bloom from well before the frosts are done until the first killing frost of the late fall whacks them.

If this round of hot mid-continent weather has brought out blooms it will only take a few hours of frost to do them in....
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Deep Water Horizon

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Quoting Neapolitan:
This was talked about last night, but verified today:

"Hailstone sets state record for Hawaii

A hailstone with the diameter of roughly that of a grapefruit that hit Oahu on March 9, 2012, has been confirmed as the largest hailstone on record for the state of Hawaii.

"The final measurement of the hailstone was 4 1/4 inches long, 2 1/4 inches tall, and 2 inches wide,"
said Michael Cantin, warning coordination meteorologist at NOAA’s National Weather Service in Honolulu, which, along with NOAA's State Climate Extremes Committee, confirmed the new state record. "According to hail report records for Hawaii kept back to 1950 the previous state record hailstone was 1 inch in diameter."
If Hawaii is gettin hailstones that big, whats next for us? Blocks of ice.?:)..
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By Ted Jackson, The Times-Picayune

TED JACKSON / THE TIMES-PICAYUNE While aboard a customized vessel for physical examination and tissue sampling, one researcher is told to watch the eye to make sure the mammal stays alert and interested in what's going on as a way to monitor his vitals during the study in Barataria Bay, Monday August 15, 2011.


Dolphins in Barataria Bay are severely ill, NOAA says
Published: Friday, March 23, 2012, 1:05 PM



Bottlenose dolphins in Barataria Bay are showing signs of severe ill health, according to NOAA marine mammal biologists and their local, state, federal and other research partners, NOAA announced today. Barataria Bay received heavy and prolonged exposure to oil during the 2010 Gulf spill after the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded.


The NOAA conclusion is based on the results of comprehensive physicals given to 32 live dolphins from Barataria Bay during the summer in 2011. Preliminary results show many of the dolphins were underweight, anemic, had low blood sugar and/or some symptoms of liver and lung disease. Nearly half also had abnormally low levels of the hormones that help with stress response, metabolism and immune function.
Researchers fear that some of the study dolphins are in such poor health that they will not survive, said a NOAA release issued today. One of those dolphins, last observed and studied in late 2011, was found dead in January 2012.
"The results presented today only reflect what we know about the health of dolphins in Barataria Bay area of Louisiana," NOAA spokesman Ben Sherman said in a news release following a teleconference announcing the results. "They may provide possible clues to other dolphins exposed to oil in the northern Gulf of Mexico. However, it is too soon to tell how the Barataria Bay findings apply to the overall (unusual mortality event) or to the health implications for other dolphins exposed to oil in the Gulf of Mexico."
NOAA and its research partners started the Barataria Bay study in 2011 as part of the Natural Resource Damage Assessment, required under the Oil Pollution Act of 1990.
NOAA is sharing the preliminary results from the study so that stranding responders and veterinarians can better care for live stranded dolphins and look for similar health conditions, the news release said.
Scientists have been tracking health concerns for bottlenosed dolphins along the coast of the northern Gulf of Mexico since February 2010. More than 675 dolphins hae been stranded during that time from Franklin County, Florida, to the Louisiana/Texas border, a much higher rate than the usual average of 74 dolphins per year.
The increased death rate prompted NOAA to declare an Unusual Mortality Event, and to investigate the cause of death for as many of the dolphins as possible. All but a few of the stranded dolphins were dead. NOAA said 33 were found alive and seven were taken to marine facilities for rehabilitation.
In the spring, it's typical to see some newborn, fetall and stillborn dolphins strand, but there also has been an increase in strandings of this younger age class during this event in 2010 and 2011. But the deaths are occurring in all age classes at high levels, NOAA said.
In October, NOAA said tests of five of the dead dolphins indicated they were infected with brucellosis, a bacterial infection better known in the United States for killing cattle, bison and elk.
At the time, pathology experts contracted by NOAA to conduct the studies said they didn't know whether oil spilled from the BP Macondo well played a role in the brucellosis deaths, or in the other strandings. But they said oil exposure may have reduced the animals' ability to fight off the disease.
No similar large stranding event involving dolphins has been connected to the Brucella bacteria anywhere else in the world, the scientists said, although the bacteria is often found in dolphins and other marine mammals.
Related topics: barataria, oil spill gulf of mexico 2010
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Quoting Grothar:


Then go take a nap like I do.

At our age, that's a bit of an adventure, isn't it? :)
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This was talked about last night, but verified today:

"Hailstone sets state record for Hawaii

A hailstone with the diameter of roughly that of a grapefruit that hit Oahu on March 9, 2012, has been confirmed as the largest hailstone on record for the state of Hawaii.

"The final measurement of the hailstone was 4 1/4 inches long, 2 1/4 inches tall, and 2 inches wide,"
said Michael Cantin, warning coordination meteorologist at NOAA’s National Weather Service in Honolulu, which, along with NOAA's State Climate Extremes Committee, confirmed the new state record. "According to hail report records for Hawaii kept back to 1950 the previous state record hailstone was 1 inch in diameter."
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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


There is not anything in the world that would make me happier than you having the right to say, "I told you so!", in another 30 years. You ave already decided what you will say then, should you prove to be correct. Just out of curiosity, what are you going to say if you are wrong and many that listened to your words today became complacent about this and really begin to suffer for it 30 years from now? Have you decided on such carefully chosen words to present before them, in this event?

You and Levi32 have a great deal of respect of nearly every person on this blog for your ability to explain tropical systems. I share their respect for both of you, on tropical systems. There are some questions that you and/or Levi32 need to answer for me:

1. What theory are either of you able to provide that explains how mankind can introduce tons/day of greenhouse gases into our atmosphere and not have these greenhouse gases begin a warming of our climate?

2. What theory will you be able to present that defies the Laws of Physics concerning the introduction of greenhouse gases into our atmosphere?

3. What chemical process or processes are happening in our atmosphere that would negate the effects of our adding greenhouse gases into our atmosphere?

Until either of you are able to provide valid theories to these questions then the opinions that either of you have on climate change will not garner the respect that your knowledge of the tropical systems have. At least, not from me. Now, should either of you be able to provide these theories then you will have fame and fortune sitting at your disposal and the praise of the world populace. ... "Drill, Baby, Drill!", will become my new slogan!



Why should I waste my time attempting to convince people on a blog who don't want to know? I can only hope a change of heart occurs. Even if I did, I know it wouldn't convince you.


Drill Baby Drill? Really? No, it may come to your shock that I am very environmentally conscious. I'm sure you're convinced that must not be possible since I'm one of the "deniers". Alright, I probably should be excommunicated out of the church for where I stand, but, I'm ok with that.
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Quoting WxGeekVA:


Potatoes have skin
I have skin
Therefore, I am a potato.



Bet you used to write for Monty Python.
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
gonna be sad come mon tue when everything that has come forth in the warmth is destroyed or killed in a couple of days of bitter cold
It looks like New England will get a cold snap.
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For those woh were wondering about the appearance of the dust storms? This ballad by Woodie Guthrie says it all, with quite a few interesting photos as well:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvI7BmuUBXU&featur e=related

It seems almost impossible for them to have survived this event.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
I apologize (and apologize in advance) to anybody I may offend with my words this afternoon. I am on a very short fuse today.


Then go take a nap like I do.
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Quoting WxGeekVA:


Potatoes have skin
I have skin
Therefore, I am a potato.



I always sensed that you were a spud man. LOL!
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I apologize (and apologize in advance) to anybody I may offend with my words this afternoon. I am on a very short fuse today.
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
for my region

Sun

63°F
46°F
60%

Mon
39°F
39°F
0%

Tue
43°F
19°F
0%
19-degrees sounds downright chilly after the warm weather alot of us have had. Read an ENSO report that mentioned the chance of neutral conditions this summer. If that were to happen, the Cape Verde season may not be very active because of water temps, fewer Easterly Waves and dust, but the Caribbean and the gulf may have some strong activity...Just me harmless opinion..:) Looks like a storm not far from you..
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Quoting Neapolitan:
I imagine there will be a lot of shoot damage. But for two weeks now I've been reading farm weather reports repeatedly telling growers to not jump the gun because of the abnormal heat, and to hold off plantings until danger of frost and freezing weather is past. I would like to believe that the smart and/or experienced ones listened.

I see that in addition to the lingering heat in the northeast, a bunch of heat records are being set in Wyoming and northern Colorado. For instance, Laramie has reached 72, tying the all-time March high temperature there, and beating out the daily average by 25 degrees.


Thanks Nea, great post as always!
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Quoting StormTracker2K:


It's all relative I agree but it will be a shock to the syste, to go from 88 to 48 in a matter of a few days with lows in the mid 20's. The bad thing is lots of plants have sprouted up there already and then a freeze to kill it all off.
I imagine there will be a lot of shoot damage. But for two weeks now I've been reading farm weather reports repeatedly telling growers to not jump the gun because of the abnormal heat, and to hold off plantings until danger of frost and freezing weather is past. I would like to believe that the smart and/or experienced ones listened.

I see that in addition to the lingering heat in the northeast, a bunch of heat records are being set in Wyoming and northern Colorado. For instance, Laramie has reached 72, tying the all-time March high temperature there, and beating out the daily average by 25 degrees.
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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


When it comes to someone that has a PHD I would have no need to trust their opinion of what the best tasting ice cream is in the world as compared to the opinion of anyone else. When it comes to the questions concerning the Sciences, their opinions carry more weight. I will give more weight to the person's opinion, with a PHD, in that field of study, than I would over anyone else with lesser studies in that field. Unless, that person has proven to be a super star, in that field of study, and lacks their PHD.

I met someone that has a PHD.
That person told lies.
Conclusion: Any person with a PHD tells lies.

I met a bank robber.
The bank robber never told lies.
Conclusion: Bank robbers never lie.

My cat likes dogs.
My dog likes cats.
Conclusion: All cats like dogs and all dogs like cats.

Do you see were I am going with this?


Potatoes have skin
I have skin
Therefore, I am a potato.

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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


There is not anything in the world that would make me happier than you having the right to say, "I told you so!", in another 30 years. You ave already decided what you will say then, should you prove to be correct. Just out of curiosity, what are you going to say if you are wrong and many that listened to your words today became complacent about this and really begin to suffer for it 30 years from now? Have you decided on such carefully chosen words to present before them, in this event?

You and Levi32 have a great deal of respect of nearly every person on this blog for your ability to explain tropical systems. I share their respect for both of you, on tropical systems. There are some questions that you and/or Levi32 need to answer for me:

1. What theory are either of you able to provide that explains how mankind can introduce tons/day of greenhouse gases into our atmosphere and not have these greenhouse gases begin a warming of our climate?

2. What theory will you be able to present that defies the Laws of Physics concerning the introduction of greenhouse gases into our atmosphere?

3. What chemical process or processes are happening in our atmosphere that would negate the effects of our adding greenhouse gases into our atmosphere?

Until either of you are able to provide valid theories to these questions then the opinions that either of you have on climate change will not garner the respect that your knowledge of the tropical systems have. At least, not from me. Now, should either of you be able to provide these theories then you will have fame and fortune sitting at your disposal and the praise of the world populace. ... "Drill, Baby, Drill!", will become my new slogan!


I'm tired of theory.

How about a list of what can be done within current technology? Things that will actually have an impact. Mankind has mowed down forests. Should we plant trees? Seems to me what this world needs is a new, clean power source. Got any ideas what that could be?

Thirty years ago, this country was environmentally aware enough to pass a law that anyone generating by solar, wind and hydro, who knows how else, more power than needed for hisself could not only sell it to the local power company but the power company was required to buy it. What happened? Solar and wind technology is already more than 30 years old. Why don't people use it. Expense? Oil's still cheaper? (add: Coal is cheaper?)

Did you know you can get a nice Federal tax credit for a geothermal setup on your central heat and air unit? Ends up using about 1/5 the electricity of a standard unit. How many individuals do this when many can (edit) barely afford groceries, let alone central heat and air?

I don't think anyone's denying that the climate is warming. As I have said here before, 15,000 years ago, Puget Sound was glaciers. I have seen the retreat of Alaskan glaciers with my own eyes.

Academic rhetoric is one thing. My question is this: Now, Right Now, just what can mankind do to stop it?

All rhetorical questions, of course, unless you or others who like to harp about the problem actually have answers.
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It seems Levi made a misleading post. 30°F over average is not all that unusual in my experience. 30°F over the previous record high is not. From what BobWallace posted:

Quoting BobWallace:


Do an analysis of the degree of unusual heat from the records you cite and compare to what we've just seen.

A quick read by me sees highs pitched in terms of degrees over average. What we're seeing is highs significantly over record highs.

From Jeff's article above...

"It is exceptionally rare for a weather station with a 50+ year period of record to break a daily temperature record by more than 10°F. During "Summer in March, 2012", beating daily records by 10° - 20°F was commonplace, and many records were smashed by over 20°.

Two stations broke records by more than 30°F, which is truly surreal. "

Your copied text talks of 30°F over average.
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Quoting LargoFl:
way back in school I seem to remember something about that, I guess your right along with a weather pattern change


No, that does make me right with a change in weather patterns, but thank you.

Observations seen today concerning weather patterns will show the AGWT to be far more a viable theory than not. There is not anything that I can say or do that changes what we observe in the weather patterns.
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
its not for the people but the plant life and birds from the south that have moved north that will not like it we have warm places to go most budding plants will likly turn black and fall off and the birds from the south well if they don't flock together for warmth well lets say they may not be moving too much and also remember the colder it is the more food they need to generate warmth and to be honest what little bit is around will be gone with the cold bugs disappear with cold as well


Thanks Keeper that's what I was trying to point out as well. I know this is near normal but it's the plants and the animals thats the worry.

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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Wow, I did not know lows in the 20s and highs in the 40s was bitter cold for people living in Michigan, "smart one".
its not for the people but the plant life and birds from the south that have moved north that will not like it we have warm places to go most budding plants will likly turn black and fall off and the birds from the south well if they don't flock together for warmth well lets say they may not be moving too much and also remember the colder it is the more food they need to generate warmth and to be honest what little bit is around will be gone with the cold bugs disappear with cold as well
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Quoting Neapolitan:
That's definitely cooler than it's been the past few weeks there, so relative to that, yes, it can be called a cool-down. But average temps for Detroit the last week of March are highs in the low 40s and lows in the low 30s, so Monday night looks like the only below-normal night to worry about for the time being.


It's all relative I agree but it will be a shock to the system, to go from 88 to 48 in a matter of a few days with lows in the mid 20's. The bad thing is lots of plants have sprouted up there already and then a freeze to kill it all off.
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