4 out of 5 Americans affected by weather-related disasters since 2006, study finds

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 5:55 PM GMT on February 20, 2012

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Since 2006 , federally declared weather-related disasters in the United States have affected counties housing 242 million people--or roughly four out of five Americans. That's the remarkable finding of Environment America, who last week released a detailed report on extreme weather events in the U.S. The report analyzed FEMA data to study the number of federally declared weather-related disasters. More than 15 million Americans live in counties that have averaged one or more weather-related disasters per year since the beginning of 2006. Ten U.S. counties--six in Oklahoma, two in Nebraska, and one each in Missouri and South Dakota--have each experienced ten or more declared weather-related disasters since 2006. South Carolina was the only state without a weather-related disaster since 2006. The report did a nice job explaining the linkages between extreme weather events and climate change, and concluded, "The increasing evidence linking global warming to certain types of extreme weather events--underscored by the degree to which those events are already both a common and an extremely disruptive fact of life in the United States--suggests that the nation should take the steps needed now to prevent the worst impacts of global warming and to prepare for the changes that are inevitably coming down the road."




Figure 1. County-level map of federally-declared weather-related disasters between 2006 - 2011. Tornadoes and severe thunderstorms in the Midwest, and heavy rains and snows from Nor'easters, hurricanes, and other storms in the Northeast gave those two regions the most disaster declarations. An interactive version of this map that allows one to click and see the individual disasters by county is on the Environment America website.

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Quoting 1911maker:


I also try to avoid the politics and the religion.

But this one hit a button.......

Go vote. Go vote for the nutter that wears a boot on his head.

By not voting you show apathy.

By voting for a nutter you show just how displeased you are with the "main stream parties" and there useless candidates.

Always vote!


Vermin Supreme?

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Quoting nash28:
My one and only political post for this thread....from another blog:

Romney is Obama-lite, Santorum is a religious whacknut and I cannot and WILL not vote for any of them. I am staying home this cycle. I simply cannot sell my principles for the sake of voting for "the party", regardless of what bowl of feces the parties are throwing at us.

So.....I figure if I park my ass on the couch and flip channels I will have more to show for my evening than the voting public.

Now....back to the weather


I also try to avoid the politics and the religion.

But this one hit a button.......

Go vote. Go vote for the nutter that wears a boot on his head.

By not voting you show apathy.

By voting for a nutter you show just how displeased you are with the "main stream parties" and there useless candidates.

Always vote!
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Quoting CJ5:


That would not be wise, unless of course you want four more years of liberalism. Your call.


Hey, I really don't care who they have in office as long as it isn't the group of donkeys that had control from 2000-2008.
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1188. hydrus
Quoting kwgirl:
Good morning all. My thoughts exactly Nea. I believe his attitude toward voting has some responsibility in causing this mess we call politics. I have voted in every election except the Presidential election in '76. I was overseas at the time and did not know anything about any of the candidates. I figured it is better not to vote then blindly vote. However, when you have all the facts in front of you and weigh the pros and cons of each candidate, the worst you can do is vote for the best of the group. I don't vote party lines and have crossed them many times, voting for the person I think will do the best job. I haven't always been right or wrong in the selections, but I did voice my opinion with my vote. Not voting hurts the country as a whole. Maybe all Americans should be required to go to any other country in the world and live for a while. Then they would know how precious our right to vote is to our way of Freedom.
Great post.
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1187. CJ5
Quoting nash28:
My one and only political post for this thread....from another blog:

Romney is Obama-lite, Santorum is a religious whacknut and I cannot and WILL not vote for any of them. I am staying home this cycle. I simply cannot sell my principles for the sake of voting for "the party", regardless of what bowl of feces the parties are throwing at us.

So.....I figure if I park my ass on the couch and flip channels I will have more to show for my evening than the voting public.

Now....back to the weather


That would not be wise, unless of course you want four more years of liberalism. Your call.
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1186. kwgirl
Quoting Neapolitan:
Comparing Romney to Obama is completely ludicrous, to be sure. But having said that, not voting is a bad idea, no matter which side you're on. If nothing else, if you don't vote, you have absolutely no right to either complain or brag about the outcome of the election.
Good morning all. My thoughts exactly Nea. I believe his attitude toward voting has some responsibility in causing this mess we call politics. I have voted in every election except the Presidential election in '76. I was overseas at the time and did not know anything about any of the candidates. I figured it is better not to vote then blindly vote. However, when you have all the facts in front of you and weigh the pros and cons of each candidate, the worst you can do is vote for the best of the group. I don't vote party lines and have crossed them many times, voting for the person I think will do the best job. I haven't always been right or wrong in the selections, but I did voice my opinion with my vote. Not voting hurts the country as a whole. Maybe all Americans should be required to go to any other country in the world and live for a while. Then they would know how precious our right to vote is to our way of Freedom.
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Quoting Naga5000:


What's funny to me, is you actually believe the pseudo philosophical thinking that you are trying to use as evidence. And the sad part is your ending argument is a statement of rightness, somehow implying that you know the real answer while I don't. It's condescending, anti-intellectual, and flat out self important.


Condescending?

You make a logical fallacy, I point it out.

You make a false statement, I refute it with corrections of definitions of terms.

This is how discussion / debate usually goes.
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1184. CJ5
Quoting greentortuloni:


Oh, so he's part of the tea party. Good to know.


No, much worse, a Communist.
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Canadian government is 'muzzling its scientists'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-168 61468
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1182. flsky
I watched about a minute of this garbage and had to stop. People thinking this way should probably live in a cave and leave the rest of the thinking world alone.

Quoting bappit:
This dude is out there.

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Quoting nash28:
My one and only political post for this thread....from another blog:

Romney is Obama-lite, Santorum is a religious whacknut and I cannot and WILL not vote for any of them. I am staying home this cycle. I simply cannot sell my principles for the sake of voting for "the party", regardless of what bowl of feces the parties are throwing at us.

So.....I figure if I park my ass on the couch and flip channels I will have more to show for my evening than the voting public.

Now....back to the weather
Comparing Romney to Obama is completely ludicrous, to be sure. But having said that, not voting is a bad idea, no matter which side you're on. If nothing else, if you don't vote, you have absolutely no right to either complain or brag about the outcome of the election.
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The HRRR is forecasting the storms to begin developing in the risk area around dusk.

Also showing a few storms around my area today round 4 or 5 PM..;D
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high today is 78....WOW
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Quoting sunlinepr:


Cloud height decreasing on Earth and NASA scientists are unsure why
Posted on February 22, 2012
February 22, 2012 – EARTH - Earth’s clouds got a little lower — about one percent on average — during the first decade of this century, finds a new NASA-funded university study based on NASA satellite data. The results have potential implications for future global climate. Data from NASA’s MISR instrument on NASA’s Terra spacecraft show that global average cloud height declined by about 1 percent over the decade from 2000 to 2010, or around 100 to 130 feet (30 to 40 meters). Lead researcher Roger Davies said that while the record is too short to be definitive, it provides a hint that something quite important might be going on. Longer-term monitoring will be required to determine the significance of the observation for global temperatures. A consistent reduction in cloud height would allow Earth to cool to space more efficiently, reducing the surface temperature of the planet and potentially slowing the effects of global warming. This may represent a “negative feedback” mechanism – a change caused by global warming that works to counteract it. “We don’t know exactly what causes the cloud heights to lower,” says Davies. “But it must be due to a change in the circulation patterns that give rise to cloud formation at high altitude.” NASA’s Terra spacecraft is scheduled to continue gathering data through the remainder of this decade. Scientists will continue to monitor the MISR data closely to see if this trend continues. –Physics



Yep, this is something that will require some more research. It's a pretty big jump to go from "lower cloud tops" to "negative feedback". For example, if this were true then stratospheric temperatures should be warming due to increased reflection. However, stratospheric temperatures have been cooling so at the moment it doesn't appear like there is a negative feedback. Then again, ten years of data really isn't enough to quantify it one way or the other.
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1177. nash28
My one and only political post for this thread....from another blog:

Romney is Obama-lite, Santorum is a religious whacknut and I cannot and WILL not vote for any of them. I am staying home this cycle. I simply cannot sell my principles for the sake of voting for "the party", regardless of what bowl of feces the parties are throwing at us.

So.....I figure if I park my ass on the couch and flip channels I will have more to show for my evening than the voting public.

Now....back to the weather
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1176. hydrus
Quoting greentortuloni:


Oh, so he's part of the tea party. Good to know.
The Tortuloni Man in tha house...
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1175. hydrus
Jet steam is over 120 knots..Strong straight line winds tonight is a sure bet.
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Quoting trunkmonkey:


George Soros comes to mind.

At first radical philanthropist George Soros decided he wanted to destroy America’s capitalist system and replace it with a command economy. He hasn’t even been beating around the bush about his twisted dream — and the mainstream media has no intention of calling him out for his treachery. This immigrant ingrate who miraculously survived the totalitarianism of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union has a screw loose. Soros puts his money where his mouth is, even lending moral support to left-wing terrorist attacks against the United States.

Sort of like a Stockholm Syndrome sufferer, the seditious Soros has come to embrace the ideology of his brutal former tormentors.

“The system we have now has actually broken down, only we haven’t quite recognized it and so you need to create a new one and this is the time to do it,” Soros told the Financial Times. In an interview with Der Spiegel Soros said European-style socialism “is exactly what we need now. I am against market fundamentalism. I think this propaganda that government involvement is always bad has been very successful — but also very harmful to our society.”

Just five months ago Soros praised China effusively. “Today China has not only a more vigorous economy, but actually a better functioning government than the United States,” he said. Soros even created the Institute for New Economic Thinking (INET) and staffed it with freedom-hating socialists like Joseph Stiglitz.

Now Soros wants to annihilate capitalism worldwide. He is planning a meeting to carry out his plan. As Dan Gainor reports

On April 8, a group he’s funded with $50 million is holding a major economic conference and Soros’s goal for such an event is to “establish new international rules” and “reform the currency system.” It’s all according to a plan laid out in a Nov. 4, 2009, Soros op-ed calling for “a grand bargain that rearranges the entire financial order.”

The group, INET, is “bringing together ‘more than 200 academic, business and government policy thought leaders to repeat the famed 1944 Bretton Woods gathering that helped create the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. Soros wants a new ‘multilateral system,’ or an economic system where America isn’t so dominant,” Gainor writes.

Soros has made it clear that he supports the creation of a new world order and that Communist China should be at the very top of it. That’s Communist China where they kill surplus babies from families that violate the one-child rule. That’s Communist China where a tweet critical of the government can land you in prison. That’s Communist China where moving to another village without government permission is a crime.

Wanting to place Communist China at the head of a new international hierarchy is sick beyond words.

Soros suffers from messianic delusions. He fancies himself some kind of philosopher-king so his ambitions shouldn’t surprise anyone.

In fact it would be easy to dismiss him as a crackpot — if only his puppet and ideological soulmate didn’t reside in the White House.


Oh, so he's part of the tea party. Good to know.
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Florida's NE and Central regions have been so warm and dry, that the lagoon is hypersaline, growing marine algae, shading out seagrass that feeds manatees, and forcing them south.
The good news is that clams and filter feeders are very happy, and in some areas, the grass is starting a rebound.
Wish there was more funding to document this event.
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


It is not worth nothing, it is worth the country backing it.

Also the nam is looking good for SE severe weather so i am rooting for it.
!!!! GOOOOOO NAM!!!!!
(it is also like rooting for the home team the NORTH AMERICAN model!)


North American Mesoscale. model. lol
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Quoting bappit:
This dude is out there.



what bible is he looking at that says it aint moving? id like to see that, lol
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Quoting hydrus:
I grasp its the basic concept. Greed, power, root of all evil today....Good morning..:)


George Soros comes to mind.

At first radical philanthropist George Soros decided he wanted to destroy America’s capitalist system and replace it with a command economy. He hasn’t even been beating around the bush about his twisted dream — and the mainstream media has no intention of calling him out for his treachery. This immigrant ingrate who miraculously survived the totalitarianism of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union has a screw loose. Soros puts his money where his mouth is, even lending moral support to left-wing terrorist attacks against the United States.

Sort of like a Stockholm Syndrome sufferer, the seditious Soros has come to embrace the ideology of his brutal former tormentors.

“The system we have now has actually broken down, only we haven’t quite recognized it and so you need to create a new one and this is the time to do it,” Soros told the Financial Times. In an interview with Der Spiegel Soros said European-style socialism “is exactly what we need now. I am against market fundamentalism. I think this propaganda that government involvement is always bad has been very successful — but also very harmful to our society.”

Just five months ago Soros praised China effusively. “Today China has not only a more vigorous economy, but actually a better functioning government than the United States,” he said. Soros even created the Institute for New Economic Thinking (INET) and staffed it with freedom-hating socialists like Joseph Stiglitz.

Now Soros wants to annihilate capitalism worldwide. He is planning a meeting to carry out his plan. As Dan Gainor reports

On April 8, a group he’s funded with $50 million is holding a major economic conference and Soros’s goal for such an event is to “establish new international rules” and “reform the currency system.” It’s all according to a plan laid out in a Nov. 4, 2009, Soros op-ed calling for “a grand bargain that rearranges the entire financial order.”

The group, INET, is “bringing together ‘more than 200 academic, business and government policy thought leaders to repeat the famed 1944 Bretton Woods gathering that helped create the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. Soros wants a new ‘multilateral system,’ or an economic system where America isn’t so dominant,” Gainor writes.

Soros has made it clear that he supports the creation of a new world order and that Communist China should be at the very top of it. That’s Communist China where they kill surplus babies from families that violate the one-child rule. That’s Communist China where a tweet critical of the government can land you in prison. That’s Communist China where moving to another village without government permission is a crime.

Wanting to place Communist China at the head of a new international hierarchy is sick beyond words.

Soros suffers from messianic delusions. He fancies himself some kind of philosopher-king so his ambitions shouldn’t surprise anyone.

In fact it would be easy to dismiss him as a crackpot — if only his puppet and ideological soulmate didn’t reside in the White House.
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1169. hydrus
Quoting Xyrus2000:


I love how people fail to grasp the basic concept of currency.
I grasp its the basic concept. Greed, power, root of all evil today....Good morning..:)
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Hey all of you know it all's, Next Tuesday thru Thursday, there's a storm coming through.
From reading the chatter on NWS chat, says it could be a big snow maker from the Mississippi Valley to the Great lakes, I would like some discussion on the models.
Yeah I know it's a week away, but I think it would bring some positive communication here.
None of the models are in agreement as of this morning, so as time goes by I would like to see comments.
There are some very confident people here who post on a regular basis.
I'm just throwing it out there for general discussion.
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1167. hydrus
A string is a hypothetical vibrating one-dimensional sub-atomic structure and one of the main objects of study in string theory, a branch of theoretical physics. There are different string theories, many of which are unified by M-theory. A string is an object with a one-dimensional spatial extent, unlike an elementary particle which is zero-dimensional, or point-like. Quarks and electrons are thought to be made of strings.

By postulating this one-dimensional structure, many desirable features of a more fundamental theory of physics automatically emerge. Most notably, almost any theory of strings consistent with quantum mechanics must also contain quantum gravity, which had not been described consistently prior to string theory.

The characteristic length scale of strings is thought to be on the order of the Planck length, the scale at which the effects of quantum gravity are believed to become significant:

\ell_P =\sqrt{\frac{\hbar G}{c^3}} \cong 1.616 24 (12) \times 10^{-35} m
Quoting bappit:
The rational principle that governs the universe is just a demiurge. If you insist on theism, God is still floating outside all of that.
Look. You know full well by now Bap that God is a string, come on..In theoretical physics, M-theory is an extension of string theory in which 11 dimensions are identified. Because the dimensionality exceeds that of superstring theories in 10 dimensions, proponents believe that the 11-dimensional theory unites all five string theories (and supersedes them). Though a full description of the theory is not known, the low-entropy dynamics are known to be supergravity interacting with 2- and 5-dimensional membranes.

This idea is the unique supersymmetric theory in eleven dimensions, with its low-entropy matter content and interactions fully determined, and can be obtained as the strong coupling limit of type IIA string theory because a new dimension of space emerges as the coupling constant increases. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is looking more credible every day
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Quoting Xyrus2000:


I love how people fail to grasp the basic concept of currency.


It is not worth nothing, it is worth the country backing it.

Also the nam is looking good for SE severe weather so i am rooting for it.
!!!! GOOOOOO NAM!!!!!
(it is also like rooting for the home team the NORTH AMERICAN model!)
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Obama to address rising gas prices, draw attention to his energy policies

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Quoting weatherh98:
I love how we put value on a peice of paper that's worth nothing... IT'S A PEICE OF PAPER!!!!


I love how people fail to grasp the basic concept of currency.
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Quoting StormTracker2K:
Mid to upper 80's here in Orlando today and upper 80's to near 90 tomorrow. Very impressive and so were the storms that rolled thru yesterday.


Morning, Hey 2K not very impressive were i was at but i saw you got lots of rain. I also see a troll must be impressed with your forecast. He keeps copying you. Dont let it get to you, keep letting us know whats going to happen here in W FL. GOOD JOB
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1162. hydrus
Quoting bappit:
This dude is out there.

.This is why people avoid other people.....
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1161. Skyepony (Mod)
Quoting NativeSun:
How deep is the warm water off South America?


Not very...This makes alot less confidence in ENSO forecasts at this point.

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1160. Skyepony (Mod)
Deniers leak secret plan to miseducate US schoolchildren

Category: Creationism • Culture Wars • Policy and Politics
Posted on: February 20, 2012 1:13 AM, by Josh Rosenau

A secret fundraising document from a shadowy anti-science institute was accidentally made public. The document candidly lays out the anti-science agenda of group, including efforts to undermine science education in public schools, but also plans to broadly redefine society.

The year was 1998, and the document was from the Discovery Institute. Nicknamed "The Wedge Document" by opponents of the Disco. 'tute's brand of creationism, it details plans to use attacks on evolution like the thin edge of a wedge, opening a crack which in time would break society free of "scientific materialism." Ultimately, the document explains, the Discovery Institute's plans would "replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and human beings are created by God."

On Valentine's Day of this year, the story repeated, but instead of exposing the anti-science agenda of creationists, it reveals the equally anti-science agenda of climate change deniers.

The Heartland Institute is a major player in the climate change denial movement, and the release has produced masses of discussion. Their files – including public IRS forms, private details of a board meeting in January, and fundraising and budget documents distributed for that meeting – were accidentally emailed to an unknown third party, who shared them with journalists including Richard Littlemore of DeSmogBlog. The documents answer many questions about Heartland, demonstrating their ties to the ultra-conservative Koch family, continuing ties to the tobacco industry (Philip Morris funded their work in the '90s), funding to supposedly independent climate change deniers like Anthony Watts, and plans to develop a $100,000 climate change denial curriculum. More here
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How deep is the warm water off South America?
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There's a lot of pleasant warmth today where there was a lot of unpleasant cold just a few weeks ago. For instance, much of the UK and western Europe is above normal, and there are even a handful of record high temperatures being tied or set. These are some nice numbers for late February (10C = 50F; 16C = 60F):

Nice

Meanwhile, things are a little wacky in India. In Mumbai, where temperatures dropped into the upper 40s a few weeks ago, temps this week have crossed the 100-degree mark.

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Meanwhile here in the good old U.S, record highs are still outnumbering record lows by a wide margin. Since January 1, a total of 2,707 daily high temperature records have been broken, while just 193 daily low temperature records have. And now with the strong La Nina losing its grip, look for things to warm up even more as some of the heat energy stored in the oceans is released to the atmosphere...
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1157. LargoFl
CHICAGO winter storm watch, 6-10 inches of snow forecasted!
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Quoting StormTracker2K:
Folks we could have a weak El-Nino by June 1st with steady intensification thru the summer months.

I knew it.We're using the cursed hurricane list.Something always goes wrong when using this list....I expect a below average hurricane season.I don't think this one will be a modeki el nino.The proof is already occuring near the coast of South America.all the warm water seems to be bundled there except for the middle of the pacific.
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nice unexpected rain last night e cen fl.
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Folks we could have a weak El-Nino by June 1st with steady intensification thru the summer months.

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DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
1232 AM CST THU FEB 23 2012

VALID 241200Z - 251200Z

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM SERN GA THROUGH THE ERN
CAROLINAS...

...SYNOPSIS...

MODEL SOLUTIONS HAVE CONVERGED REGARDING TIMING AND AMPLITUDE OF NRN
STREAM TROUGH THAT WILL AMPLIFY OVER THE ERN U.S. AS STRONG UPPER
JET DROPS SEWD FROM THE NRN ROCKY MOUNTAIN REGION INTO THE MID MS
AND OH VALLEYS. THE AMPLIFYING TROUGH WILL INDUCE A SFC CYCLONE THAT
WILL LIKELY BE LOCATED OVER THE ERN PORTION OF THE OH VALLEY EARLY
FRIDAY WITH TRAILING COLD FRONT EXTENDING SWWD INTO THE SRN
APPALACHIANS AND SRN TX. THE FRONT IS EXPECTED TO EXIT THE TX COAST
EARLY FRIDAY AND THE CAROLINA COASTS FRIDAY AFTERNOON OR EARLY
EVENING.

...SERN STATES...

A FEW THUNDERSTORMS SHOULD BE IN PROGRESS EARLY FRIDAY WITHIN ZONE
OF FRONTAL ASCENT OVER A PORTION OF THE SERN STATES FROM LA NEWD
INTO GA AND THE SRN APPALACHIANS. ACTIVITY WILL DEVELOP EWD THROUGH
THE WARM SECTOR DURING THE DAY. PRIMARY LLJ IS FORECAST TO MIGRATE
FROM GA INTO THE ERN CAROLINAS WHERE IT WILL TRANSPORT AN AXIS OF
LOW-MID 60S DEWPOINTS. HOWEVER...WIDESPREAD CLOUDS WILL RESULT IN
LIMITED INSTABILITY...AND FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATE A CAPPING
INVERSION IN WARM SECTOR WHICH SUGGESTS DEEPER CONVECTION SHOULD
REMAIN CONFINED TO THE FRONTAL ZONE. THE MARGINAL THERMODYNAMIC
ENVIRONMENT WILL PROBABLY SERVE AS A LIMITING FACTOR FOR A MORE
ROBUST SEVERE THREAT. A MODEST POTENTIAL WILL EXIST FOR ISOLATED
STRONG WIND GUSTS AS CONVECTION DEVELOPS THROUGH SERN GA AND THE ERN
CAROLINAS BEFORE THE COLD FRONT MOVES OFFSHORE.

...TX...

COLD FRONT WILL MOVE OFF THE SOUTH TX COAST EARLY IN THE PERIOD.
HOWEVER...POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR THE UPPER LOW OVER NRN MEXICO TO
AUGMENT ASCENT IN THE POST FRONTAL ZONE LATER THE DAY. SUFFICIENT
ELEVATED INSTABILITY AND EFFECTIVE SHEAR MAY EXIST TO SUPPORT A
THREAT FOR HAIL...BUT COVERAGE IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN ISOLATED.

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Mid to upper 80's here in Orlando today and upper 80's to near 90 tomorrow. Very impressive and so were the storms that rolled thru yesterday.

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Link

Looks interesting over the ohio valley. Too bad it is gonna miss my house.
The last few years of severe weather have been terrible around me.
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1149. bappit
Shades of last spring for SE Texas. From Houston-Galveston NWS forecast discussion:

IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY WILL BE ANOTHER UNSEASONABLY WARM DAY TODAY WITH FORECASTED MAX TEMPS IN THE MID 80S. CRP AND LCH SOUNDINGS AT 00Z SHOW 850MB TEMPS AROUND 18-20C ALREADY. 00Z 850MB ANALYSIS HAS 16C TEMPS OVER THE NORTHERN PORTION OF SE TX. A GENERAL WEST FLOW SHOULD CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THESE TEMPS WITH STRONG CAPPING DUE TO AN ELEVATED MIX LAYER. HIGH CLOUDS MAY BE THE ONLY THING TO KEEP MAX TEMPS FROM THE UPPER 80S BUT SUSPECT THAT THERE MAY BE AN AREA OR TWO THAT REACH THE UPPER 80S TODAY.

The dry line reached the western edge of east Texas yesterday.
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Quoting WxGeekVA:
GFS is agreeing with the Euro on the storm on the 3rd now....


As much as I would love for that to come true, it is 228 hours away, and there is no way it will pan out like that.
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GFS is agreeing with the Euro on the storm on the 3rd now....

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1146. LargoFl
good morning! 66 and damp outside, got a few sprinkles of rain last night, just enough to wet the grass..but its something..we need the rain here...have a great day everyone
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1145. bappit
The rational principle that governs the universe is just a demiurge. If you insist on theism, God is still floating outside all of that.
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Quoting RTSplayer:


Denying evolution isn't exactly true of what I've said.

It's clear things change.

The difference is in how and why they change, and I think the order and manner in which I believe things to be.

atheists claim to believe life and the universe are an accident.

I find this preposterous.

When you really dig into the facts, the real physicists believe in God whether they realize it or not. They are always looking for a deeper origin of the universe through attempting to discover, define, and describe more fundamental layers of reality.

As I said a few days ago, both the Bible and Aquinas equate God to "The rational principle that governs the universe".

Any attempt to describe or understand the universe is ultimately an attempt to understand God, or at the very least any intermediate mechanisms he employed through creation.

I cannot accept the atheist belief in life as a random accident or some combination of chance and selection, because that is not rational. The universe is far too ordered and even redundant in it's very laws for randomness or chance to be considered as rational. Many modern scientists are beginning to realize that.


Athiests don't claim any of the above necessarily. You are defining atheism as the opposite of whatever you personally believe in (I think).

I've always been curious what other beliefs were in detail more than whether or not they coincided with Atheism or not. For example, I think the Brahmans believe that we are all thoughts in the mind of God and that the Universe is The Mind of God. i don't think it makes sense to ask if that is Atheist or not but I think it is close to what a lot of scientists think.

In the same way, to redicule what scientists believe as Atheist is a bit simplistic.

- but thanks for 'agape'. I thought it was a color somewhere between the color of the desert in the morning and the color of the feeling you get when you see the ocean when you are really thirsty. Macroemotional synesthesia versus christian love... nice swing from arete.. the greek excellence as opposed to the christian 'good'.
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Quoting RTSplayer:
So anyway, a system of trade based on the laws of physics, time, space, energy, matter, etc, would be unbiased and always provide equal service for equal service.

Currency is unfair because it collapses all dimension to a single dimension, which clearly cannot capture the true essence of the multi-dimensional, multi-variable world, which is the economics of physics.


Currency is based on the market value of "what i want". Instead of an objective physical value, it is based on a psychological value. Oh to be someone who wants what other people don't in this system.

A physical system will be just as corrupt in that the physical system is multi-dimenasional as well. Creating a monetary system based on a single dimension will ignore the other dimensions and will result either in destruction of the things based on the other dimensions, or else a black market.
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Quoting HurrikanEB:
Path of tsunami debris mapped out

Houses and cars were swept out to sea in Kesennuma City.
simply amazing, the sheer power, of...water,those poor people
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Quoting bappit:
This dude is out there.



SCIENCE!
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