4 out of 5 Americans affected by weather-related disasters since 2006, study finds

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 5:55 PM GMT on February 20, 2012

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Since 2006 , federally declared weather-related disasters in the United States have affected counties housing 242 million people--or roughly four out of five Americans. That's the remarkable finding of Environment America, who last week released a detailed report on extreme weather events in the U.S. The report analyzed FEMA data to study the number of federally declared weather-related disasters. More than 15 million Americans live in counties that have averaged one or more weather-related disasters per year since the beginning of 2006. Ten U.S. counties--six in Oklahoma, two in Nebraska, and one each in Missouri and South Dakota--have each experienced ten or more declared weather-related disasters since 2006. South Carolina was the only state without a weather-related disaster since 2006. The report did a nice job explaining the linkages between extreme weather events and climate change, and concluded, "The increasing evidence linking global warming to certain types of extreme weather events--underscored by the degree to which those events are already both a common and an extremely disruptive fact of life in the United States--suggests that the nation should take the steps needed now to prevent the worst impacts of global warming and to prepare for the changes that are inevitably coming down the road."




Figure 1. County-level map of federally-declared weather-related disasters between 2006 - 2011. Tornadoes and severe thunderstorms in the Midwest, and heavy rains and snows from Nor'easters, hurricanes, and other storms in the Northeast gave those two regions the most disaster declarations. An interactive version of this map that allows one to click and see the individual disasters by county is on the Environment America website.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting RTSplayer:


Man, that is an outrageous comment.

There was nothing good about WWII.

50 million corpses, and most of their names forgotten is somehow "good"?


I never said good.

But I'm fairly biased here..me being pro-war and all.
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Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


You are insane if you think anything but WWII got us out of the great depression, and since when was getting in to more debt ever a great thinking? That's the type of spending that led to this freaking mess. Spending money we don't have is never ever a good thing. To think we can just sum up debt with no consequences is ludicrous.

So you're saying that the massive borrowing and spending by the US government to fight WWII is what got the US out of the depression?

Sounds very Keynesian to me.

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Some of the ensembles are now plus 2.5 to 3.0 by the end of October. I noticed these SST's really jump off South America the last 10 days.

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Quoting StormTracker2K:
This could literally shut down the risk of a landfalling storm this year. Not to say we wont have one or two make landfalling systems but overall an average to below average season maybe in the cards.

StormTracker2K, meet Andrew.



It only takes one......but you know that ;)
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Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


Oh really? How do they even know that? Obama has raised our debt 7.6 trillion dollars in a little more than 3 years, that is sound economic spending? How about Jimmy Carter's economy? That almost had a misery rate of 20? Wish we could have maintained that... not.


BTW, your number is significantly incorrect.

The Federal debt was $10.6 trillion when PBO entered office. It's now (as of today) $15.5 trillion.

That's $4.8 trillion, not $7.6 trillion. About 40% lower than your claim.

And most of it is due to the Bush oil wars, the economic failure due to a lack of adequate regulations on the financial industry, and the Bush tax cuts.

The cost of the Obama stimulus is a bit less than one trillion. Less than 25% of the total debt increase and vital to getting our economy out of the hole that was killing us.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/po st/column-doing-the-math-on-obamas-deficits/2011/0 8/25/gIQALDBchQ_blog.html
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


ive lurked on and off since i was eight or nineI i am now 15), so i know the rules.
I really hope i am not on anyone's ignore list

I totally have you on mine.
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This could literally shut down the risk of a landfalling storm this year. Not to say we wont have one or two landfalling systems but overall an average to below average season maybe in the cards.
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Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


You are aware that he had a super majority in both the house and the senate and still nothing got done? How can you blame the republicans.


Two words, Republican filibusterers. Or, the threat of one at least.

Getting bills through Congress and then signed into law, by the President, has never been a simple chore. Now, it seems, it takes more than "an act of Congress" to get anything done. Congress has to actually perform on something. ... Well, I mean more than just declaring that pizza is a vegetable too.
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Quoting yqt1001:


You obviously aren't Keynesian then. :P (lowering of taxes during recession, while tax hikes during prosperity)

The great depression ended with WW2, but it was slowly ending prior to it. Just goes to show that war isn't all that bad.


Man, that is an outrageous comment.

There was nothing good about WWII.

50 million corpses, and most of their names forgotten is somehow "good"?
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Quoting sunlinepr:


It's like the northwest is just getting sucker punched by a huge arm out of the pacific...

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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


Former trolls are the cause for any new poster to viewed as a troll as well. Often times they will be labeled as one before they are discovered to be otherwise. When I was new, in the year 1322, I too was labeled as a troll. ... I think some still consider me to be one. ;-)
multi handled screennames also are a problem been here since 2005 signed up in 06 same name never different but others have and still use other ids but u can still tell there the same people ive been here awhile seen lots come and go and some that just use another name
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This is a HUGE change from the last update. I wouldn't be surprised to if we see another 1997 to 1998 El-Nino developing later this summer.



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Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


You are aware that he had a super majority in both the house and the senate and still nothing got done? How can you blame the republicans.
you must Not be aware of the reality that if there even was one, it was weeks at most.
Link

oh yeah.. FEMA!
(on topic ;)
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I wrote a blog recapping the life of Giovanna and discussing other tropical/ severe weather matters if anyone wants to check it out.

Quoting SPLbeater:


there are a certain few that like to call ALL new comers trolls. which is pathetic. because once, they were starters. =P

That's a great comment. I've been impressed with the respect I and other recent newcomers on the blog have gotten though. There's a lot of good people on here.
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Looks as if the chances of El-Nino arriving later this summer are on the rise. We could have a very strong El-Nino next winter.

Climate Prediction Center 2/21/12 Weekly update

All the ENSO regions warmed sustancially with Nino 3.4 up to -0.6C,warmer than the -1.0C that last week's update brought. In fact,Nino 1-2 close to South America is now in positive territory (+0.9C) This shows how La Nina is fading fast and Neutral ENSO will come in short order. The big question is if is going to warm even more and more to jump towards El Nino in a hurry.



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Quoting SPLbeater:


when i joined, i posted a little bit and watched alot.



you cant be a troll.....but i bet the ones who do think you are a troll, are trolls themselves.

my thing is that if i am a troll, then all of wunderground is.


We are glad that you stuck around, SPLbeater. You are good with the weather info, eager to learn more and have already developed a sense of humor that is beginning to blend in. ... Much to Grothar's disgust! LOL
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Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


You are insane if you think anything but WWII got us out of the great depression, and since when was getting in to more debt ever a great thinking? That's the type of spending that led to this freaking mess. Spending money we don't have is never ever a good thing. To think we can just sum up debt with no consequences is ludicrous.


You obviously aren't Keynesian then. :P (lowering of taxes during recession, while tax hikes during prosperity)

The great depression ended with WW2, but it was slowly ending prior to it. Just goes to show that war isn't all that bad.
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Quoting RTSplayer:


You are away that Obama has tried to get Congress to raise tax revenues from the ridiculously wealthy, as well as cut military spending, but the republicans block him every time, right?


You are aware that he had a super majority in both the house and the senate and still nothing got done? How can you blame the republicans.
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


ive lurked on and off since i was eight or nineI i am now 15), so i know the rules.
I really hope i am not on anyone's ignore list


u isnt on mine, and dont look to be!

i ignore ones who get on my nerves repeatedly, always try finding something to correct about me, or just have a negative attitude all the time.
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Quoting BobWallace:


Actually it is. Review the history of the Great Depression and how it took government spending to get our economy back on track.

When we have a significant financial downturn like we're just recovering from someone has to spend some money to get business going. Individuals generally don't have any money and businesses tend to be extremely reluctant to hire more people or buy equipment.

If the government doesn't spend then everyone sits around twiddling their thumbs and watching things get worse.

If the government does spend then we get the economy back on track, businesses hire and invest, individuals get some money to spend. Businesses and individuals pay taxes to pay back what the government had to borrow.

Borrowing money to create a return is just good business. Businesses do it all the time.

The Obama administration borrowed money and spent it to increase tax revenue and cut unemployment payouts. A good thing was done....


You are insane if you think anything but WWII got us out of the great depression, and since when was getting in to more debt ever a great thinking? That's the type of spending that led to this freaking mess. Spending money we don't have is never ever a good thing. To think we can just sum up debt with no consequences is ludicrous.
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Quoting yqt1001:


It's less that and more that most new starters don't know the etiquette of the blog and tend to stick out in the mix. They get called trolls for not learning.

I lurked on the blog for nearly a year before I started posting, the worst thing that someone called me came after I told them that South America isn't communist. ;)


when i joined, i posted a little bit and watched alot.

Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


Former trolls are the cause for any new poster to viewed as a troll as well. Often times they will be labeled as one before they are discovered to be otherwise. When I was new, in the year 1322, I too was labeled as a troll. ... I think some still consider me to be one. ;-)


you cant be a troll.....but i bet the ones who do think you are a troll, are trolls themselves.

my thing is that if i am a troll, then all of wunderground is.
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Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


Oh really? How do they even know that? Obama has raised our debt 7.6 trillion dollars in a little more than 3 years, that is sound economic spending?


Actually it is. Review the history of the Great Depression and how it took government spending to get our economy back on track.

When we have a significant financial downturn like we're just recovering from someone has to spend some money to get business going. Individuals generally don't have any money and businesses tend to be extremely reluctant to hire more people or buy equipment.

If the government doesn't spend then everyone sits around twiddling their thumbs and watching things get worse.

If the government does spend then we get the economy back on track, businesses hire and invest, individuals get some money to spend. Businesses and individuals pay taxes to pay back what the government had to borrow.

Borrowing money to create a return is just good business. Businesses do it all the time.

The Obama administration borrowed money and spent it to increase tax revenue and cut unemployment payouts. A good thing was done....
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Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


Oh really? How do they even know that? Obama has raised our debt 7.6 trillion dollars in a little more than 3 years, that is sound economic spending? How about Jimmy Carter's economy? That almost had a misery rate of 20? Wish we could have maintained that... not.


You are away that Obama has tried to get Congress to raise tax revenues from the ridiculously wealthy, as well as cut military spending, but the republicans block him every time, right?
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


Oh, because when i 1st started, i got called that.
That hurts :(
I hope whoever thought i was him didn't put me on ignore.

Also cant they troll ban him?


Former trolls are the cause for any new poster to viewed as a troll as well. Often times they will be labeled as one before they are discovered to be otherwise. When I was new, in the year 1322, I too was labeled as a troll. ... I think some still consider me to be one. ;-)
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Quoting Jeff9614:


Florida Rainy Season is right around the corner!


I thought Florida's rainy season came later in March-thru-June
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Quoting yqt1001:


It's less that and more that most new starters don't know the etiquette of the blog and tend to stick out in the mix. They get called trolls for not learning.

I lurked on the blog for nearly a year before I started posting, the worst thing that someone called me came after I told them that South America isn't communist. ;)


ive lurked on and off since i was eight or nineI i am now 15), so i know the rules.
I really hope i am not on anyone's ignore list
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Quoting Neapolitan:
Yes, Heartland--and Watts, and the rest of the usual suspects--are jumping all over Gleick. Heartland's official statement is that Gleick's apology is nowhere near enough, and they plan to pursue legal remedies.

I'm the first to admit that what Gleick did was stupid. Understandable, yes; he's been one of the largest and most consistent targets of the anti-science crowd. But fighting deceit with deceit, even when as frustrated by the attacks as Gleick must have been, never works (except maybe in romance novels), so shame on Gleick for stooping to that level. His reputation is now highly tarnished, and he's likely out of a job. And, on a larger note, he's unilaterally ceded some hard-won ground in the fight against the deep-pocketed forces of Big Energy, and for that a lot of us will have a difficult time forgiving him.

HOWEVER: to echo your point, while Gleick's actions were stupid, that in no way excuses Heartland for its own ongoing lies and deception. That organization, funded by Big Energy interests (among others) has long been known as one of the most active purveyors of anti-science, pro-pollution nonsense, and no amount of their attempts at redirection are going to free them from blame.

As I alluded to earlier, say what you will about Gleick, but he was man enough to admit to his act of deceit and stupidity. Now let's see whether the lowlifes who hacked into the university's private servers and stole personal emails are a tenth as willing to admit their own culpability.

I won't hold my breath.



Stupid is what stupid does! Forrest Gump!

Stupid people make stupid decisions!

If I were a high profile guy, I would be watching my back 24/7.

Even if I disagreed with this guys opinion, he is screwed, and tattoed.

Hope he finds work! and doesn't go to the pokey!
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Quoting SPLbeater:


there are a certain few that like to call ALL new comers trolls. which is pathetic. because once, they were starters. =P


It's less that and more that most new starters don't know the etiquette of the blog and tend to stick out in the mix. They get called trolls for not learning.

I lurked on the blog for nearly a year before I started posting, the worst thing that someone called me came after I told them that South America isn't communist. ;)
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Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


Oh really? How do they even know that? Obama has raised our debt 7.6 trillion dollars in a little more than 3 years, that is sound economic spending? How about Jimmy Carter's economy? That almost had a misery rate of 20? Wish we could have maintained that... not.


here is my one and only bit of negativity towards 'president' ocrapa:

He said when he was elected, he would give 3 million jobs. well, over 1 million were LOST.



The only good thing that ocrapa did was:
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Quoting hydrus:
This could be trouble too CMC 144 hours.


All the models agree that next week could be ugly for a good part of the US.
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Some showers & storms forming here in the C Gulf appear to heading toward the Tampa Bay area for tomorrow. GFS has been all over this the last several runs. Maybe some needed rain for C FL tomorrow.

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Quoting BobWallace:


Democratic presidents are terrible for business, aren't they? That's what the talking heads tell me.

Let's see...

"As of Friday, (10/8/08) a $10,000 investment in the S.& P. stock market index* would have grown to $11,733 if invested under Republican presidents only...

Invested under Democratic presidents only, $10,000 would have grown to $300,671 at a compound rate of 8.9 percent over nearly 40 years."

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/10/14/opi nion/20081014_OPCHART.html

Having your $10 investment grow to $11,733 is much better than having it grow to $300,671 isn't it? Good Republican math. Just think of the taxes you didn't have to pay on that extra $289,000.

BTW, this article was written before the market had finished tanking under the Bush administration and doesn't include the roughly 60% growth during the Obama time in office.

(Why, oh why would investors want to see Republicans in office?)


Oh really? How do they even know that? Obama has raised our debt 7.6 trillion dollars in a little more than 3 years, that is sound economic spending? How about Jimmy Carter's economy? That almost had a misery rate of 20? Wish we could have maintained that... not.
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I was studying Neven's comments and followed this link.

It seems in addition to being useful for studying sea ice concentration, the SMOS program is going to be able to verify tropical cyclone intensity based on wave action and ocean salinity.


SMOS Satellite Homepage

I looked around, but didn't see anything available to the public, maybe I missed it.

Was wondering if anyone knows anything about this and whether there are any live products available for study with regards to both TC formation and sea ice.
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This could be trouble too CMC 144 hours.
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Quoting hydrus:
Add a moisture plume to this folks, and the fireworks will commence.


Strong jet there for sure.
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


Oh, because when i 1st started, i got called that.
That hurts :(

Also cant they troll ban him?


there are a certain few that like to call ALL new comers trolls. which is pathetic. because once, they were starters. =P
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I dont think its possible for somebody to steal my name....:D
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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


CAT5Hurricane is the handle of a banned user here. He claimed, about a month ago, that he has 100 handles and that only 35 have already been banned. In other words, there is more for us to endure.


Oh, because when i 1st started, i got called that.
That hurts :(
I hope whoever thought i was him didn't put me on ignore.

Also cant they troll ban him?
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Add a moisture plume to this folks, and the fireworks will commence.
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Quoting RitaEvac:
WTI Crude Oil
$106.08

Brent Crude Oil
$121.37

That's a big spread and WTI has some catching up to do, so buckle up


Scuttlebutt is that Renault will be announcing an affordable EV with a 200 mile range in early March. Renault says that they have a major announcement to make but will not confirm the details.

Their car will be somewhere in the $20k range and then you lease the battery for something under $100 per month. (That's the rumor.)

For people who drive more than average, but rarely more than 200 miles in a single day, this could be a major money saver.

Renault, as you might know, is tightly aligned with Nissan. They have the same CEO. If Renault has better, more affordable batteries then we're likely to see them in the 2013 Leaf. (And Nissan has already announced that prices will drop with the 2013 models.)

As we get our chains jerked once more by the oil companies start considering your options.

With gas at $5/gallon it would be cheaper to purchase a Nissan Leaf. Take the federal subsidy and your monthly cost would be less than buying a $20k 30MPG gasmobile or a Toyota Prius. After the car was paid off you would enjoy significant monthly savings.

(There's also car pooling and public transportation.)
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Quoting RTSplayer:


It's because "free markets" and the "Invisible hand" are anything but "free".

The monopolies always hold all the cards and set the price. Even with stock markets, casual investors have no "real" influence on the price of things.

Only the big financial firms or other monopolies from other sectors have enough funds to influence the stock market.

Even if you went and took your entire life savings out of one fund, and moved it to another, or to an individual stock, nobody else would notice or care, except the middle men charging you to make a trade, that is.

The whole system is a scam rigged by the monopolies of the world.

It is not a supply and demand thing.

Even "true" supply and demand systems in the real world are themselves rigged by currency scams.
So to my point: "Drill, baby, drill!" may sound like a great bit of populist sloganeering, but as a policy plank, it's completely and demonstrably void of both logic and veracity.

Got it. ;-)
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Quoting GeorgiaStormz:


What is cat5 hurricane?


CAT5Hurricane is the handle of a banned user here. He claimed, about a month ago, that he has 100 handles and that only 35 have already been banned. In other words, there is more for us to endure.
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NWS Huntsville, AL:
A SHORTWAVE AT 500 MILLIBARS WILL PROGRESSIVELY DROP SOUTHEAST
THROUGH MIDDLE AND EAST TENNESSEE ON WEDNESDAY...WITH SHOWER AND
THUNDERSTORM POTENTIAL INCREASING. THE NAM MODEL IS MORE AGGRESSIVE
THAN THE GFS...AND AT LEAST WENT WITH A COMPROMISE INVOLVING PRECIP
CHANCES BY ESPECIALLY WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. THE NAM IS ALSO MORE
AGGRESSIVE IN RELATION TO INSTABILITY AND SHEAR WITH LIS DECREASING
TO AROUND -2 AND HELICITY VALUES APPROACHING 500 M2/S2 BY 21Z

WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. THE GFS IS NOT AS AGGRESSIVE WITH THIS SHORT
WAVE...WITH LESSER VALUES. HAVE ALSO INCREASED POPS SLIGHTLY FOR
WEDNESDAY EVENING TO ACCOUNT FOR NAM SOLUTION.

THE NEXT SYSTEM TO IMPACT THE REGION WILL BE THE COLD FRONT THAT WILL
APPROACH THE TENNESSEE VALLEY BY 00Z FRIDAY. THE NAM MODEL INDICATES
THAT THE FORECAST AREA DOES BECOME MODERATELY UNSTABLE BY 00Z-06Z
TIME PERIOD ON FRIDAY...ALONG WITH BOTH THE NAM/GFS INDICATING
HELICITY VALUES INCREASING TO 500-700 M2/S2 BETWEEN 21Z THURSDAY-03Z
FRIDAY.
THE TIMING OF THIS SYSTEM IS STILL A LITTLE UNCERTAIN...BUT
WILL AT LEAST INCREASE PRECIP CHANCES INTO CLOSER TO THE CATEGORICAL
NUMBERS FOR THE AREA FOR THURSDAY EVENING/OVERNIGHT. AM CONCERNED
ABOUT THE SEVERE THREAT ALONG WITH ISOLATED TORNADOES ESPECIALLY
THURSDAY EVENING BETWEEN 00-06Z TIME PERIOD. PLEASE SEE THE LATEST
HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK FOR MORE DETAILS.
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Quoting RitaEvac:
Climate scientist admits stealing docs from conservative think tank


Theft, deceit and outright lies: How ugly can climate science get?





I know I am going to get in trouble for this, if I dood it, but I dood it anyway! ;-)

Is this an example of an oxymoron? - conservative think tank

I am basing this on those that claim to be today's conservatives.
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Quoting Neapolitan:
You know, it's kinda funny (but not really): for years some have been shouting, "Drill, baby, drill!", promising that if only Big Oil could be allowed to poke more holes in the planet, we'd see a sure drop in prices. Yet here in 2012, after quadrupling the number of oil rigs, giving the United States more working rigs than anywhere else in the world, crude prices continue to rise.

Gee. Even leaving aside the dangers posed by climate change, is there anyone out there who still buys the lies of "Drill, baby, drill"?


It's because "free markets" and the "Invisible hand" are anything but "free".

The monopolies always hold all the cards and set the price. Even with stock markets, casual investors have no "real" influence on the price of things.

Only the big financial firms or other monopolies from other sectors have enough funds to influence the stock market.

Even if you went and took your entire life savings out of one fund, and moved it to another, or to an individual stock, nobody else would notice or care, except the middle men charging you to make a trade, that is.

The whole system is a scam rigged by the monopolies of the world.

It is not a supply and demand thing.

Even "true" supply and demand systems in the real world are themselves rigged by currency scams.
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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


CAT5Hurricane?


What is cat5 hurricane?
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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


CAT5Hurricane?
Give the man a cigar!!! ;-)
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Quoting BobWallace:


Gleick did one thing wrong. He used a false name to trick Heartland into sending him private information.

The "Climategate" perps did two things wrong. First, they hacked the university email system and stole emails. Second, they took bits and pieces of those emails out of context and created lies about the behavior of climate science.

The Heartland Institute actively participated in the Climategate lies. They even continue to claim that the stolen emails demonstrate some sort of scientific misconduct long after a half dozen high level investigations have determined that climate scientists did nothing wrong. They continue to lie.

Does the behavior of the email thieves and the Heartland Institute liars excuse Gleick's behavior?

Of course not.

But Gleick's behavior does not negate what the Heartland Institute has done either.

You can bet that Heartland is going to pump up the noise about what Gleick did in order to divert attention from themselves. While not overlooking Gleick, let's remember who both stole and lied.

And remember who is trying to keep us from preventing runaway climate change.

Yes, Heartland--and Watts, and the rest of the usual suspects--are jumping all over Gleick. Heartland's official statement is that Gleick's apology is nowhere near enough, and they plan to pursue legal remedies.

I'm the first to admit that what Gleick did was stupid. Understandable, yes; he's been one of the largest and most consistent targets of the anti-science crowd. But fighting deceit with deceit, even when as frustrated by the attacks as Gleick must have been, never works (except maybe in romance novels), so shame on Gleick for stooping to that level. His reputation is now highly tarnished, and he's likely out of a job. And, on a larger note, he's unilaterally ceded some hard-won ground in the fight against the deep-pocketed forces of Big Energy, and for that a lot of us will have a difficult time forgiving him.

HOWEVER: to echo your point, while Gleick's actions were stupid, that in no way excuses Heartland for its own ongoing lies and deception. That organization, funded by Big Energy interests (among others) has long been known as one of the most active purveyors of anti-science, pro-pollution nonsense, and no amount of their attempts at redirection are going to free them from blame.

As I alluded to earlier, say what you will about Gleick, but he was man enough to admit to his act of deceit and stupidity. Now let's see whether the lowlifes who hacked into the university's private servers and stole personal emails are a tenth as willing to admit their own culpability.

I won't hold my breath.
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