Category 4 Giovanna battering Madagascar

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:45 PM GMT on February 13, 2012

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Earth's most dangerous storm of 2012 is Tropical Cyclone Giovanna, which is bearing down on Madagascar as a powerful Category 4 storm with 145 mph winds. Giovanna is predicted to hit a heavily populated portion of the east coast of the island near 22 GMT tonight as a Category 3 storm, then move inland, passing near the capital of Antananarivo as a Category 1 storm on Tuesday morning. The outer spiral bands of the storm have already moved over the island, bringing heavy rains and gusty winds.


Figure 1. Visible image from NASA's Terra satellite of Tropical Cyclone Giovanna approaching Madagascar, taken at 6:35 UTC Monday February 13, 2012. At the time, Giovanna was a Category 4 storm with 145 mph winds. Image credit: NASA.


Figure 2. Webcam view of the skies over the Andila Beach Hotel in northwest Madagascar, taken at 6:15pm local time on Monday February 13, 2012. Image credit: Andilana Beach Hotel.

The forecast: not good
Recent microwave satellite imagery (Figure 3) shows that Giovanna has concentric eyewalls, and it likely that the inner eyewall will collapse today as the storm undergoes an eyewall replacement cycle. This process should gradually weaken the storm, and I expect Giovanna will weaken slightly to a still very dangerous Category 3 storm with 125 - 130 mph winds at landfall. However, the eyewall replacement cycle will spread out the storm's hurricane-force winds over a larger area, increasing the storm surge. A 70-mile long swath of the coast that is heavily populated will receive sustained hurricane-force winds tonight. Rainfall amounts in excess of eight inches in a 24-hour period are expected along the center of Giovanna's path. These rains will cause extensive flooding and major damage to the country, and the storm is likely to be one of the top three most expensive disasters in Malagasy history. The damage potential is higher than for previous storms of similar intensity, due to the considerable deforestation Madagascar has experienced over the past 30 years. Madagascar lost 8.3% of its forest cover between 1990 and 2010 and is now just 22% forested, according to mongabay.com. Flood waters run off quicker from deforested land, reach higher heights, and cause greater damage.


Figure 3. Microwave satellite image of Tropical Cyclone Giovanna taken at 12:30 UTC (7:30 am EST) Monday, February 13, 2012. The echo-free eye is surrounded by two concentric eyewalls, the sign of a storm undergoing an eyewall replacement cycle. Image credit: Navy Research Lab, Monterrey.

Madagascar's tropical cyclone history
The strongest and deadliest tropical cyclone ever recorded in Madagascar was Tropical Cyclone Gafilo, which hit the northern end of the island on March 7, 2004, as a Category 5 storm with 160 mph winds. Galfilo dumped up to 20 inches of rain on the island, and its winds and flooding rains killed 363 people and did $250 million in damage, making it the deadliest and second most expensive storm in Madagascar's history. Gafilo's central pressure of 895 mb made it the second strongest tropical cyclone ever recorded in the Southern Hemisphere, behind the 890 mb central pressure of Tropical Cyclone Zoe of December 2002, which affected Fiji and the Solomon Islands. With a central pressure of 937 mb, Giovanna is a much less intense storm than Gafilo was.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting Articuno:
2 big earthquakes in california
5.3
and a 4.3

Wow.


now upped to 5.5 wow.
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2011 not only verified the 2010 down anomaly, but exceeded it.

Last year, the sea ice volume anomaly ended being 2500km below the 2007 down anomaly.

If we are 3000km below the 2007 line currently, then it is reasonable that we are on pace to lose 500km or more again this year.

Now that the volume has been decreased so much that it is almost linearly correlated to area, the albedo feedback can increase much more rapidly than it has in the past.

Fortunately, it will likely still be a few decades before the CO2 gets high enough to kill continental snow packs, but that may be the next benchmark after the first complete summer sea ice meltdown. I suppose this will change average winter time albedo in the N. Hemisphere by perhaps a point or more, eventually.

If you change average albedo by 1 point you change forcing by about 10 watts.

Divide by 4.7, that gives roughly 2.1C temperature increase from albedo alone...if it changes by just 1 point for the planetary average...

So as you can see, losing those snowpacks across all those continents will cause far, far more positive feedback than the CO2 itself.

Look at snowpack


Imagine if 10% of the average snowpack disappeared.

Imagine if...50% of it disappeared 35N to 60N.
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2 big earthquakes in california
5.3
and a 4.3

Wow.

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Afternoon everyone... So since this storm is in the southern Hem... Does that mean the South West quadrant of the storm is the most dangerous?
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Quoting SteveDa1:
On another topic...

Arctic sea ice recovering nicely:



However, since a good portion of the ice is only 1 or 2 years old, expect this to be another record melt season. At the very least in the top 5.



Is this what counts as a "recovery" these days? An average rate of rise over a several day period that is similar to the long-term average rate of rise in January? Sea ice extent increased to the record low threshold... it's recovered!
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Quoting Remoterivers:
Posting from Morondava, Madagascar.
How does the photo of a hotel and the name of the hotel in Nosy Be contribute to the worth of this page? Updated information would be more in order. We need information and look to you....


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ABIO10 PGTW 131800

MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//

SUBJ/SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL WEATHER ADVISORY FOR THE INDIAN

/OCEAN/131800Z-141800ZFEB2012//

REF/A/MSG/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/131351ZFEB2012//

REF/B/MSG/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/131551ZFEB2012//

NARR/REF A IS A TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING. REF B IS A TROPICAL

/CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT.//

RMKS/

1. NORTH INDIAN OCEAN AREA (MALAY PENINSULA WEST TO COAST OF AFRICA):

A. TROPICAL CYCLONE SUMMARY: NONE.

B. TROPICAL DISTURBANCE SUMMARY: NONE.

2. SOUTH INDIAN OCEAN AREA (135E WEST TO COAST OF AFRICA):

A. TROPICAL CYCLONE SUMMARY:

(1) AT 131200Z, TROPICAL CYCLONE 12S (GIOVANNA) WAS LOCATED

NEAR 18.7S 51.5E, APPROXIMATELY 250 NM EAST OF ANTANANARIVO,

MADAGASCAR, HAD TRACKED WEST-SOUTHWESTWARD AT 12 KNOTS OVER THE PAST

SIX HOURS. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED SURFACE WINDS WERE ESTIMATED AT 125

KNOTS GUSTING TO 150 KNOTS. SEE REF A (WTXS31 PGTW 131500) FOR

FURTHER DETAILS.

(2) NO OTHER TROPICAL CYCLONES.

B. TROPICAL DISTURBANCE SUMMARY:

(1) THE AREA OF CONVECTION PREVIOUSLY LOCATED NEAR 12.1S

100.0E, IS NOW LOCATED NEAR 12.1S 96.1E, APPROXIMATELY 50 NM WEST OF

COCOS ISLAND. RECENT ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS

CONSOLIDATING CONVECTION OVER A WELL-DEFINED LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION

CENTER (LLCC). A 131209Z SSMIS 37 GHZ IMAGE SHOWS TIGHTLY CURVED

BANDING OVER THE WESTERN AND NORTHERN QUADRANTS OF THE LLCC. RECENT

SURFACE OBSERVATIONS FROM COCOS ISLAND SHOW WINDS FROM THE NORTHEAST

AT 20 KNOTS AND 1006 MB. CURRENT DVORAK INTENSITY ESTIMATES FROM

PGTW AND KNES INDICATE 30 KNOT WINDS NEAR THE LLCC. UPPER-LEVEL

ANALYSIS INDICATES THE LLCC IS LOCATED A FEW DEGREES EQUATORWARD OF

A SUBTROPICAL RIDGE AXIS UNDER WEAK VERTICAL WIND SHEAR WITH GOOD

DIVERGENCE ALOFT. ANIMATED WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS GOOD

EQUATORWARD OUTFLOW WITH SOME ENHANCEMENT TO THE POLEWARD OUTFLOW

INTO UPPER-LEVEL TROUGHING TO THE SOUTHEAST. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED

SURFACE WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 28 TO 32 KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL

PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1006 MB. DUE TO INCREASED

CONSOLIDATION OF THE LLCC WITH PERSISTENT CENTRAL CONVECTION AND

INCREASINGLY FAVORABLE UPPER-LEVEL ENVIRONMENT, THE POTENTIAL FOR

THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN THE NEXT 24

HOURS IS UPGRADED TO HIGH. SEE REF B (WTXS21 PGTW 131600) FOR

FURTHER DETAILS.

(2) NO OTHER SUSPECT AREAS.//
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Quoting Remoterivers:
Posting from Morondava, Madagascar.
How does the photo of a hotel and the name of the hotel in Nosy Be contribute to the worth of this page? Updated information would be more in order. We need information and look to you....




WTXS51 PGTW 131500
WARNING ATCP MIL 12S SIO 120213131718
2012021312 12S GIOVANNA 010 01 250 12 SATL 020
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T096 238S 0373E 040
T120 239S 0350E 030
AMP
096HR DISSIPATING AS A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE OVER WATER
120HR DISSIPATED AS A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE OVER LAND
SUBJ: TROPICAL CYCLONE 12S (GIOVANNA) WARNING NR 010
1. TROPICAL CYCLONE 12S (GIOVANNA) WARNING NR 010
01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN SOUTHIO
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
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WARNING POSITION:
131200Z --- NEAR 18.7S 51.5E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 250 DEGREES AT 12 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 020 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 125 KT, GUSTS 150 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 050 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
050 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 115 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
125 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
125 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
115 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 195 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
220 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
220 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
195 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
REPEAT POSIT: 18.7S 51.5E
---
FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
140000Z --- 19.0S 48.7E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 105 KT, GUSTS 130 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 255 DEG/ 14 KTS
---
24 HRS, VALID AT:
141200Z --- 19.8S 45.9E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 055 KT, GUSTS 070 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 240 DEG/ 14 KTS
---
36 HRS, VALID AT:
150000Z --- 21.2S 43.3E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 045 KT, GUSTS 055 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 050 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 240 DEG/ 11 KTS
---
EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
151200Z --- 22.3S 41.3E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 055 KT, GUSTS 070 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 020 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
020 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 065 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 240 DEG/ 07 KTS
---
72 HRS, VALID AT:
161200Z --- 23.6S 38.8E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 055 KT, GUSTS 070 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 020 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
020 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 065 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 96 HR POSIT: 260 DEG/ 03 KTS
---
LONG RANGE OUTLOOK:
---
96 HRS, VALID AT:
171200Z --- 23.8S 37.3E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 040 KT, GUSTS 050 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
DISSIPATING AS A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE OVER WATER
VECTOR TO 120 HR POSIT: 265 DEG/ 05 KTS
---
120 HRS, VALID AT:
181200Z --- 23.9S 35.0E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 030 KT, GUSTS 040 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
DISSIPATED AS A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE OVER LAND
---
REMARKS:
131500Z POSITION NEAR 18.8S 50.8E.
MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 131200Z IS 28 FEET.
NEXT WARNINGS AT 140300Z AND 141500Z.
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TPXS10 PGTW 131821

A. TROPICAL CYCLONE 12S (GIOVANNA)

B. 13/1730Z

C. 19.0S

D. 50.2E

E. ONE/MET7

F. T5.5/6.5/W1.0/24HRS STT: W0.5/06HRS

G. IR/EIR

H. REMARKS: 05A/PBO IRREG EYE/ANMTN. DG EYE SURROUNDED BY B
YIELDS AN E# AND DT (NO EYE ADJUSTMENT) OF 5.5. MET YIELDED
6.0, PT 5.5. DBO DT.

I. ADDITIONAL POSITIONS:
13/1232Z 18.8S 51.2E SSMI


HOUGH
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Quoting BobWallace:
Look at the low number of new nighttime low records. Something is holding in heat when it would normally be leaking out.
Indeed. Speaking of which, the following maps from HAMweather show low temperature anomalies forecast for the next five days across the continental U.S.:

Warm

Warm

Warm

Warm

Warm
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Quoting Neapolitan:
...Many of the world's ice sheets are breaking up at an increasing rate, and it's certainly not due to expansion because of cooling temperatures. Those ice sheets are melting and weakening as the water below warms. Simple thermodynamics at work, really.
At this time of year when the ice is expanding, I don't think so. As I said earlier this does not necessarily hold true for the edges of the ice or to glaciers which work on a different mechanism.
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looks good keep weakening
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Posting from Morondava, Madagascar.
How does the photo of a hotel and the name of the hotel in Nosy Be contribute to the worth of this page? Updated information would be more in order. We need information and look to you....
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Quoting RitaEvac:


Wave action? earthquake activity? warmer water?


Currently, this year, the Arctic is suffering less ice due to warmer and higher volumes of water from the Atlantic.

Overall Arctic sea ice is being lost to warmer air temperatures. We're observing much more warming at the pole than other parts of the globe. And that's exactly what one would expect with a "thicker blanket of insulation". Greenhouse gases are trapping heat that would normally be lost during the dark months.

Look at the low number of new nighttime low records. Something is holding in heat when it would normally be leaking out.

We've got multiple factors working on ridding the Arctic of sea ice. Warmer air, warmer water coming in from southern waters, stronger storms (more energy in the system) breaking up the ice, and more exposed water (less heat reflected back into space and more heat stored in the water).

Think about that punch bowl. Someone turned up the room heat. Someone is pouring in warmer ginger ale. And someone else is busy stirring the bowl. Should anyone be surprised when the ice melts?
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Quoting Xyrus2000:


First year ice is less the 1 meter thick, which is now what most of the arctic is comprised of.
and once the sun rises and gets to it 24 hr summer high point everything will be gone and we will start working on that old ice once again first year ice is slop ice anyway
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Quoting yqt1001:
EWRC is hurting Giovanna. Good for lower winds winds, but an increase in wind radius. In this case, a large wind radius isn't good.

Yes > I posted last night that E.R.C would be a good thing if it occurred at the right time...And luck may be on there side as of right now.
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Giovanna is starting to feel the effects of land interaction, higher wind shear, and an Eyewall Replacement Cycle it will not complete. Despite this weakening, Giovanna remains a dangerous tropical cyclone that will cause tremendous amounts of damage and significant loss of life. All we can do is pray for those people living in Madagascar.

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Quoting yqt1001:
EWRC is hurting Giovanna. Good for lower winds winds, but an increase in wind radius. In this case, a large wind radius isn't good.



lol
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Quoting hydrus:
This looks a little unsettling..


Looks like a snowstorm in the making for the northeast!
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114. wxmod
Quoting BobWallace:


Add TMI, Davis-Bessie, and all the other "near misses" to the list.

It's pretty much impossible to build and operate nuclear reactors without human involvement. All energy/electricity generation involves humans but nuclear is unique in the level of danger it brings to the table. Not only the danger of catastrophic failure, but the danger of nuclear waste that will exist for centuries.

Wind, geothermal and hydro are already cheaper than new nuclear. Solar is about the same price and tidal should soon be cheaper. In the short run we can back up renewables with inexpensive natural gas and then replace NG with storage as those technologies mature.

Why bother with nuclear when less dangerous and less expensive technology is at hand?

Just think about generation which has no fuel or significant "labor/security" input. We commonly calculate the cost of power based on a 20 year span. Solar panels produce power as cheaply as new nuclear for those 20 years and then will produce electricity for essentially zero cents per kWh for another 20, 30 or more years. Wind is already considerably cheaper than nuclear and after the 20 year payoff period turbines should crank out almost free electricity for another 20+ years.

We can, right now, replace coal with a combination of wind, solar and natural gas and slow climate change. When one considers the health and environmental costs of burning coal and the avoided costs of more "100 year" events moving quickly to renewables would be a huge money saver.

That route leaves those who follow us with established wind farms which will need turbine replacement every 40 or so years and solar arrays which will need panel replacement after 40 (100?) years. And no piles of radioactive waste.






I can just imagine the problems Earth is going to have when humans are involved in WW3 and noone is monitoring a thousand nuclear power plants.
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Quoting Xyrus2000:


By which metric are you using to determine safety? Going by deaths/kwh nuclear is still one of the safest means of generating power.

The reactors are safe. Or rather, they are only as safe as the people managing and operating them. In both cases (Chernobyl and Fukishima), the main reason the reactors failed were due to human negligence.


Add TMI, Davis-Bessie, and all the other "near misses" to the list.

It's pretty much impossible to build and operate nuclear reactors without human involvement. All energy/electricity generation involves humans but nuclear is unique in the level of danger it brings to the table. Not only the danger of catastrophic failure, but the danger of nuclear waste that will exist for centuries.

Wind, geothermal and hydro are already cheaper than new nuclear. Solar is about the same price and tidal should soon be cheaper. In the short run we can back up renewables with inexpensive natural gas and then replace NG with storage as those technologies mature.

Why bother with nuclear when less dangerous and less expensive technology is at hand?

Just think about generation which has no fuel or significant "labor/security" input. We commonly calculate the cost of power based on a 20 year span. Solar panels produce power as cheaply as new nuclear for those 20 years and then will produce electricity for essentially zero cents per kWh for another 20, 30 or more years. Wind is already considerably cheaper than nuclear and after the 20 year payoff period turbines should crank out almost free electricity for another 20+ years.

We can, right now, replace coal with a combination of wind, solar and natural gas and slow climate change. When one considers the health and environmental costs of burning coal and the avoided costs of more "100 year" events moving quickly to renewables would be a huge money saver.

That route leaves those who follow us with established wind farms which will need turbine replacement every 40 or so years and solar arrays which will need panel replacement after 40 (100?) years. And no piles of radioactive waste.




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SH122012 - Tropical Cyclone (>=96 kt) GIOVANNA

Enhanced Infrared (IR) Imagery (4 km Mercator)/Loop

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ZOOM is available

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110. wxmod
Arctic sea ice today.
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I followed the other link on Skyepony's video link.


I love watching experimentalists like this, who have a much more hands-on approach to science

Man Burns Magnesium Thermite in hand
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Looking back in time, this was likely Giovanna's peak intensity:





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EWRC is hurting Giovanna. Good for lower winds winds, but an increase in wind radius. In this case, a large wind radius isn't good.

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Quoting WaterWitch11:


why is nobody in the pool?
hiya pat

Geez,,Where ya been.?
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This looks a little unsettling..
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Quoting RitaEvac:
If I'm reading this correctly it has the 10 degrees line down to Galveston Bay

Yes, the 10-degree line was south of San Antonio, all across the Gulf, and into Florida. Pretty incredible...
Quoting nymore:
The colder it gets the more cracks and heaves you get. I will see if you know why. Think Volume and Area in which to fit such volume.

This is not for cracks or heaves caused by wave action
Many of the world's ice sheets are breaking up at an increasing rate, and it's certainly not due to expansion because of cooling temperatures. Those ice sheets are melting and weakening as the water below warms. Simple thermodynamics at work, really.
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55 biff4ugo "I got the link to work, but the pictures look identical to the images below. Unless there is zero wind, they must not be refreshing."

If you are talking about the images from the Hotel Adrialana Beach webcams,
the links generating all of the photos connect to the same 2 web addresses:
meteosystem...madagascar and meteosystem...madagascar2
So every time you refresh an old WUpage or click onto a new WUpage with those images, all of the images simultaneously reset to the newest image (refreshed by mateosytem every few minutes).

Not that you'd see anything dramatic. The webcams are located on Nosy Be Island (NOS)
which is still more than 400miles(643kilometres) away from Giovanna's center.

The 2 line-segments connecting the 3 unlabeled dots represent Giovanna's path between
the latest 3 center positions as reported by the JointTyphoonWarningCenter.
TMM is Toamasina, Madagascar's main port. And TNR is Antananarivo, the capital.
The distance between TMM and TNR is ~134miles(216kilometres).
The coastal dot east of TNR is Brickaville, ~53miles(~85kilometres) from Toamasina.
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Quoting Patrap:


why is nobody in the pool?
hiya pat

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Quoting jeffs713:

Breeder Reactors also have an incredibly amazing ability to create materials for nuclear weapons, have a rather low energy output, and produce a different type of fuel.

Also, I think Chernobyl and Fukushima should be all you need to explain why nuclear power isn't exactly safe.


By which metric are you using to determine safety? Going by deaths/kwh nuclear is still one of the safest means of generating power.

The reactors are safe. Or rather, they are only as safe as the people managing and operating them. In both cases (Chernobyl and Fukishima), the main reason the reactors failed were due to human negligence.
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If I'm reading this correctly it has the 10 degrees line down to Galveston Bay

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Quoting Neapolitan:
The cracks are normal. What's abnormal is having so many so large and so early.


Wave action? earthquake activity? warmer water?
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Quoting Neapolitan:
The cracks are normal. What's abnormal is having so many so large and so early.
The colder it gets the more cracks and heaves you get. I will see if you know why. Think Volume and Area in which to fit such volume.

This is not for cracks or heaves caused by wave action
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Quoting wxmod:


The photo from MODIS of the ice yesterday shows some major cracks which seem to show that the ice is frail. Can't see how the ice is affected further north though. Do you know if those cracks are normal?


I can't answer that question. I know that there has been some discussion on http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/ about increased cracks and that the common held belief is that while the area between the cracks will freeze, that new ice will be quite thin and melt out early.

Thinner ice is going to crack. Wave action creates cracks/fractures and the mechanical action increases melting. As wind/wave operate on thinner ice it gets churned into "party punch slush" which is easily pushed into warmer water where it melts.

At the other pole we're observing an enormous 19 mile long, up to 800 foot wide crack/fissure in the Pine Island Glacier which promises to create an immense ice berg once that fracturing is complete. A 350 square mile, 1,650 foot thick iceberg. 30% as large as Rhode Island.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2094849/T he-worlds-biggest-iceberg-19-mile-crack-continues- break-away-Antarctica.html
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Quoting nymore:
Short answer yes, cracks are completely normal as are ice heaves running for many miles.
The cracks are normal. What's abnormal is having so many so large and so early.
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New findings on ice melt and sea level rise: What does it mean?
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Quoting Skyepony:
Japan & nuclear interests along with airline, rocket engineers & such are checking this out.


amazing.

Shortcut saved.

Makes you wonder...


would like to see it hold up in the focal point of a 1m^2 spot Fresnel lens, maybe even 2m^2. If it can hold up in there, it'd survive almost anyhing.



I wonder what this stuff costs to make?

Imagine if you could make thin panels of this stuff to put fire blocks between rooms in a house, or even one every 4 to 8 feet in the wall along one of the studs.

House fires wouldn't be able to spread at all!
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Quoting wxmod:


The photo from MODIS of the ice yesterday shows some major cracks which seem to show that the ice is frail. Can't see how the ice is affected further north though. Do you know if those cracks are normal?
Short answer yes, cracks are completely normal as are ice heaves running for many miles.
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This date--February 13--in 1899 was the coldest morning ever recorded for many areas. A few sample temperatures:

Tallahassee, FL: -2F
Washington, DC: -15F
Minden, LA: -16F
Monterey, VA: -29F
Atlanta, GA: -9F

This was, of course, part of the Great Blizzard of 1899, which saw the port of New Orleans completely iced over, blizzard conditions on the Florida coast north of Tampa, sub-30 temps into Miami, and a killing frost into Cuba.

Click for larger weather map:
cold
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Quoting Xyrus2000:


About 20-30 years.


Thanks...
Nice avatar...Bleach IMO is the 2nd best anime of all time.
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Quoting wxmod:
Arctic sea ice yesterday. How thick is it?



First year ice is less the 1 meter thick, which is now what most of the arctic is comprised of.
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89. Skyepony (Mod)
Japan & nuclear interests along with airline, rocket engineers & such are checking this out.

Thanks for checking the webcam link. I'm still having no luck.
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Quoting RitaEvac:


So it's time to hunt them down like dogs, you say?



The morlocks are much too smart for that, plus they have all the guns and the money.


Besides, even if you somehow overthrow the brain morlocks in one nation or region, some other brain morlocks will just take over.

The banks own both your creditor and your employer, and if they want to punish you or take your stuff, all they need do is make a phone call and tell your boss to fire you. You lose your house, which goes back to their member bank which they own, and they got all the currency you paid for your mortgage.


You see, when the same company owns both your employer and your bank, through a complicated web of stocks and brand names and other smoke and mirrors, then they can basicly manipulate you however they want. Even if they don't have 100% ownership, they often have as much as 10% ownership.

Not only do they own your employer and your bank, they also own the grocery store and the shopping center.

They profit by everything you do.

They use the profits to manipulate you ever more.
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Quoting ILwthrfan:


What is the total lag roughly of Temperature reaction to CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere...20 years?


About 20-30 years.
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