My worst global warming fear: buckeyes in Ann Arbor

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:53 PM GMT on February 10, 2012

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Last week, I blogged about how wintertime minimum temperatures in the U.S. have risen so much in recent decades, that the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) had to update their Plant Hardiness Zone Map for gardeners for the first time since 1990. The Plant Hardiness Zone Map is the standard by which gardeners and growers can determine which plants are most likely to thrive at a location. I got to looking at the new zone map for Ann Arbor, Michigan, where I live, and saw how we've shifted one 5-degree Fahrenheit half-zone warmer. Ann Arbor used to be in Zone 5, but is now solidly in the warmer Zone 6. This got me to wondering, what sort of plants in Zone 6, until now rare or unknown in Ann Arbor, might migrate northwards in coming decades into the city? Then, with a sudden chill, I contemplated a truly awful possibility: The Ohio Buckeye Tree.


Figure 1. Comparison of the 1990 and 2012 USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Maps. Image credit: USDA and Arbor Day Foundation.

Buckeyes in Ann Arbor? The Horror!
For those of you unfamiliar the the buckeye tree, it is the emblem of Ohio State University. The Buckeyes of Ohio State have one of the most fierce rivalries in sports with that "school up north", the University of Michigan. As someone who spent twelve years of my life as a student at the University of Michigan, the thought of Buckeye trees in Ann Arbor is not one I care to contemplate. But the USDA Forest Service has published a Climate Change Tree Atlas which predicts that the most favorable habitat for the Ohio Buckeye Tree can be expected to move northwards with a warming climate. While they give their model for the Buckeye Tree a rating of "low reliability", it is nonetheless chilling to contemplate the potential infestation of Ann Arbor with this loathsome invader. I can only sadly predict that to stem the invasion, non-ecologically-minded University of Michigan students will unleash genetically engineered wolverines that eat buckeye seeds.


Figure 2. Potential changes in the mean center of distribution of the Ohio Buckeye tree. The green oval shows the current center of the range of the Buckeye Tree, well to the south of Ann Arbor. In a scenario where humans emit relatively low amounts of heat-trapping gases like carbon dioxide (light blue oval), the most favorable climate for the Buckeye Tree edges into Southern Michigan, and marches into Ann Arbor under the medium and high scenarios for emissions (other ovals.) Image credit: USDA Forest Service Climate Change Tree Atlas.

Libyan snowstorm triggered major Saharan dust storm
On February 6, a rare snow storm hit North Africa, bringing 2 - 3 inches of snow to Tripoli, Libya. It was the first snow in Tripoli since at least 2005, and may be the heaviest snow the Libyan capital has seen since February 6, 1956. The storm responsible for the North African snow also had strong winds that kicked up a tremendous amount of dust over Algeria during the week. This dust became suspended in a flow of air moving to the southwest, and is now over the Atlantic Ocean.


Figure 3. Dust storm on February 7, 2012, off the coast of West Africa, spawned by a storm that brought snow to North Africa on February 6. Note the beautiful vorticies shed by the Cape Verde Islands, showing that the air is flowing northeast to southwest. The red squares mark where fires are burning in West Africa. Image credit: NASA.

Have a great weekend, everyone, and I'll be back Monday with a new post.

Jeff Masters

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NO SILLY NOT THE FOOTBALL TEAM .......THE REAL THING
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Quoting SPLbeater:


pinhole?


Very.



I generally define pinhole as when the MW imagery fails to see the eye, it is that small.
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Quoting yqt1001:




Honestly, this only reminds me of Wilma.



Very impressive and rare storm, might even be the strongest of the year, Giovanni. Can't wait until first vis tonight, going to look amazing!


pinhole?
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Quoting gordydunnot:
Well my little comment on dad shooting the laptop. He appears to be a bigger brat than his daughter. Criticism being he should have given the laptop to someone that really could use it, with the condition that he get a thank you from that person. Put that on the internet lesson learned.



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Honestly, this only reminds me of Wilma.



Very impressive and rare storm, might even be the strongest of the year, Giovanni. Can't wait until first vis tonight, going to look amazing!
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Quoting MTWX:

Just don't think it is going to happen...

PAST
RUNS OF THE VARIOUS MODELS...INCLUDING BOTH THE GFS AND
ECMWF...HAVE SUGGESTED THAT SIGNIFICANT SURFACE CYCLOGENESIS
SUPPORTIVE OF AN INCREASED SEVERE WEATHER THREAT IS AT LEAST WITHIN
THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY NEAR AND EAST OF THE LOWER/MIDDLE
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY NEXT THURSDAY/FRIDAY. HOWEVER...GIVEN THE
APPARENT LOW PROBABILITIES FOR THIS OCCURRING...COUPLED WITH THE
EXTENDED TIME FRAME.../POTENTIAL TOO LOW/ CATEGORIZATION STILL SEEMS
MORE APPROPRIATE THAN /PREDICTABILITY TOO LOW/ FOR THIS OUTLOOK
PERIOD.
The models should have a handle on it by Sunday night...Its gonna be a cat-3....im tellin ya..:)
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We are through fall and half of winter, I'd say it took longer than a month.
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Black sea freezing over. CNN news flash. Only took a month.
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Buckeye (n): A hairless nut with no known value

My fear - armadillos in Kansas. Not so much the armadillos themselves but the fear that their only known predators will follow ... TEXANS!

BTW - I like Wolverines. Fricaseed with ketchup they ain't bad!

GO SPARTANS!
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Well my little comment on dad shooting the laptop. He appears to be a bigger brat than his daughter. Criticism being he should have given the laptop to someone that really could use it, with the condition that he get a thank you from that person. Put that on the internet lesson learned.
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Quoting TampaSpin:
Reuters Reuters Top News
FLASH: Greek Deputy Foreign Minister Xenogiannakopoulou resigns -State TV bit.ly/ybo0SF



We MIGHT have a PROBLEM it appears!


Well, let's see, what do the history books say?

Teh wikie article on the Greeks in teh 20th century is enlightning.

Greece? A coup?
Every decade or two!

We'll see what happens...
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USDA warns impact of climate zone changes are not indicative of global warming (with all due respect to the great humourous post)

http://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/PHZMWeb/AboutW hatsNew.aspx

Climate Change

Climate changes are usually based on trends in overall average temperatures recorded over 50-100 years. Because the USDA PHZM represents 30-year averages of what are essentially extreme weather events (the coldest temperature of the year), changes in zones are not reliable evidence of whether there has been global warming.

Compared with the 1990 version, zone boundaries in this edition of the map have shifted in many areas. The new PHZM is generally one half-zone warmer than the previous PHZM throughout much of the United States, as a result of a more recent averaging period (1974–1986 vs. 1976–2005). However, some of the changes in the zones are the results of the new, more sophisticated mapping methods and greater numbers of station observations used in this map, which has greatly improved accuracy, especially in mountainous regions. These changes are sometimes to a cooler, rather than warmer, zone.
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Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #7
CYCLONE TROPICAL INTENSE GIOVANNA (09-20112012)
22:00 PM RET February 10 2012
================================

At 18:00 PM UTC, Intense Tropical Cyclone Giovanna (939 hPa) located at 16.1S 61.0E has 10 minute sustained winds of 100 knots with gusts of 140 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving southwest at 8 knots.

Hurricane Force Winds
========================
16 NM radius from the center

Storm Force Winds
=================
20 NM radius from the center

Gale Force Winds
=================
50 NM radius from the center extending up to 60 NM in the southern semi-circle

Near Gale Force Winds
=====================
90 NM radius from the center, extending up to 120 NM in the northwestern quadrant and up to 140 NM in the southwestern quadrant

Dvorak Intensity: T6.0/6.0/D1.5/6 HRS

Forecast and Intensity
========================

12 HRS: 17.2S 59.6E - 110 knots (Cyclone Tropical Intense)
24 HRS: 18.2S 58.3E - 110 knots (Cyclone Tropical Intense)
48 HRS: 17.4S 55.0E - 90 knots (Cyclone Tropical Intense)
72 HRS: 17.6S 50.5E - 70 knots (Cyclone Tropical)

Additional Information
=====================

Giovanna has undergone explosive deepening since the afternoon with impressive microwave signature of small sized eyewall. This rapid intensification is currently continuing. This very fast intensification may have resulted in a shifting of prevailing steering flow above 500 HPA. With a more north-south oriented shape of the western boundary of the upper high ridge situated to the east of the storm. This may result into a more meridian-like trajectory in the next 24 hours than initially expected, with a sharper turn afterwards when the barometric col to the south will withdraw towards the east by 30 hours. Then the track should recurve westward with the rebuilding of high pressures south-east of Madagascar.

Environmental conditions should remain very favorable up to Saturday with a good poleward outflow channel, but intensity should probably fluctuate within this period.

On Sunday, the system should lose its poleward outflow channel. On Monday and after, Giovanna should undergo a weak to moderate easterly vertical wind shear on the northern side of rebuilding upper level high pressures. So system is expected to weaken before the landfall on the eastern coast of Madagascar, at the end of night between Monday and Tuesday.The residual center should come back over seas in the Mozambique Channel on Wednesday within a favorable environment for regeneration.

The next tropical cyclone advisory on TC GIOVANNA issued by Mauritius Meteorological Services will be issued at 0:30 AM UTC..
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I have no problem with trees and bushes from the South moving into my neighborhood.. don't want no gators though.. and come to think of it, those who would be hunters of such..
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I was noticing the oaks starting to leaf in my neighbors yard and it is just starting to snow lightly here in Mid TN
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56. MTWX
Quoting hydrus:
Here is another look at the system that should turn out to be a very active system when it reaches the Central U.S.

Just don't think it is going to happen...

PAST
RUNS OF THE VARIOUS MODELS...INCLUDING BOTH THE GFS AND
ECMWF...HAVE SUGGESTED THAT SIGNIFICANT SURFACE CYCLOGENESIS
SUPPORTIVE OF AN INCREASED SEVERE WEATHER THREAT IS AT LEAST WITHIN
THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY NEAR AND EAST OF THE LOWER/MIDDLE
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY NEXT THURSDAY/FRIDAY. HOWEVER...GIVEN THE
APPARENT LOW PROBABILITIES FOR THIS OCCURRING...COUPLED WITH THE
EXTENDED TIME FRAME.../POTENTIAL TOO LOW/ CATEGORIZATION STILL SEEMS
MORE APPROPRIATE THAN /PREDICTABILITY TOO LOW/ FOR THIS OUTLOOK
PERIOD.
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Link

Not weather related, not climate change related or even religion.

I do not "do" Facebook, and this strikes me as very funny and sad both.

Parenting, so fun..........
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Tropical Cyclone Warning Center Wellington
Hurricane Warning
SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE JASMINE (12F)
7:00 AM NZDT February 11 2012
=====================================

At 18:00 PM UTC, Tropical Cyclone Jasmine (965 hPa) located at 26.3S 174.5E has 10 minute sustained winds of 70 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving east at 7 knots.

Hurricane Force Winds
=====================
30 NM from the center

Storm Force Winds
==================
60 NM from the center

Gale Force Winds
=================
90 NM from the center in the western quadrant
120 NM from the center in the sector from northwest through northeast to southwest
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53. MTWX
Quoting auburn:
We Love our Kudzu in Alabama..We have to..you cant kill or outrun the stuff...

Same goes in Mississippi! I wouldn't quite say we love it... More like tolerate it. You can actually kill it, but the issue is you also kill everything else in the process, and the soil becomes unusable for something like 10 years!
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TC ADVISORY
DTG: 20120210/1800Z
TCAC: REUNION
TC:GIOVANNA
NR:5
PSN: :S1606 E06100
MOV: SW 08 KT
C: 935 HPA
MAX WIND: 100 KT

FCST PSN +06HR: 11/0000Z S1637 E06019
FCST MAX WIND +06HR: 105 KT
FCST PSN +12HR: 11/0600Z S1712 E05938
FCST MAX WIND +12HR: 110 KT
FCST PSN +18HR: 11/1200Z S1749 E05856
FCST MAX WIND +18HR: 110 KT
FCST PSN +24HR: 11/1800Z S1809 E05815
FCST MAX WIND +24HR: 110 KT
RMK : NIL
NXT MSG: 20120211/0000Z

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rapid intensification!
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Quoting hydrus:
Here is another look at the system that should turn out to be a very active system when it reaches the Central U.S.


looks like severe thunderstorms from texas into the southeast, rain ohio valley/mid atlantic up to southern new england, then really ramps up arounds up the coast off new england and nova scotia maybe wrapping some heavy snow around in northern maine! the worst thing the u.s. will see from this system will be severe weather and heavy rain...these models are fresh off a two year unusual winter in the u.s.
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Quoting ILwthrfan:


It looks as of right now that areas from the Plains to the Ohio Valley will be mainly rain, even its northern extent, as it migrates up the east coast it may be able to wrap in enough cold air support some snow especially further north. I think models are showing colder because of climatology factors which hasn't been the norm for the lower 48 this year. It wouldn't surprise me

South could be looking at a severe weather event.


So what you are saying is the rain will stay mainly in the plain?
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And this is an interesting set up..
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Quoting AtHomeInTX:


Lol. Fair enough. I know how many people just looove the Cowboys. Thought I'd get banned from WU for that comment. So I'll take the teasing. LOL.


lol
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Quoting SPLbeater:


this was a good post until the part "That trophy needs to come back to Dallas" no no no no no no no no....they stink lol. it needs to go to New Orleans, Carolina or Denver! ;D


Lol. Fair enough. I know how many people just looove the Cowboys. Thought I'd get banned from WU for that comment. So I'll take the teasing. LOL.
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Quoting ILwthrfan:


It looks as of right now that areas from the Plains to the Ohio Valley will be mainly rain, even its northern extent, as it migrates up the east coast it may be able to wrap in enough cold air support some snow especially further north. I think models are showing colder because of climatology factors which hasn't been the norm for the lower 48 this year. It wouldn't surprise me

South could be looking at a severe weather event.
Here is another look at the system that should turn out to be a very active system when it reaches the Central U.S.
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Quoting ILwthrfan:


It looks as of right now that areas from the Plains to the Ohio Valley will be mainly rain, even its northern extent, as it migrates up the east coast it may be able to wrap in enough cold air support some snow especially further north. I think models are showing colder because of climatology factors which hasn't been the norm for the lower 48 this year. It wouldn't surprise me

South could be looking at a severe weather event.
I,d say severe weather is a certainty... There is about a 40% chance this system could really wind up when it starts heading north-east towards the Atlantic.
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Quoting AtHomeInTX:
That did it! I tried not to comment on football! I understand your fear DRM. It is always nauseating enough to hear how great the giants are. ACK! Then they pick eli manning for the pro bowl! His brother I can understand, even injured. But him? And now this? It's almost unbearable! Sigh... it's a sad time in football. That trophy needs to come back to Dallas and the Buckeyes need to stay in Ohio. Then everything will be right again. :D


this was a good post until the part "That trophy needs to come back to Dallas" no no no no no no no no....they stink lol. it needs to go to New Orleans, Carolina or Denver! ;D
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Thanks Jeff...
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Miami NWS Discussion

THE LATEST FORECAST MODELS CONTINUE TO PUSH THE STRONG COLD FRONT
THROUGH SOUTH FLORIDA EARLY SATURDAY MORNING ALLOWING FOR MUCH
DRIER AND COLDER WEATHER TO WORK INTO THE AREA FROM THE NORTH
SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY. THE MODELS ARE CONTINUING TO DROP THE
1000-850MB THICKNESSES OVER SOUTH FLORIDA FOR EARLY SUNDAY MORNING
WHICH ARE NOW DOWN TO 1310-1320 OVER THE LAKE OKEECHOBEE AREA TO
1330-1340 OVER MIAMI-DADE COUNTY. IF THIS TREND CONTINUES IN THE
12Z RUNS...THEN THE LOW TEMPERATURES WILL LIKELY NEED TO BE LOWERED
SOME FOR SATURDAY NIGHT.

THE WINDS WILL ALSO INCREASE TO BREEZY TO WINDY CONDITIONS DURING
THE DAY SATURDAY BUT WINDS MAY CONTINUE THROUGH THE NIGHT. THIS
WILL ALLOW FOR THE WIND CHILL READINGS TO FALL INTO THE UPPER 20S
TO LOWER 30S INTERIOR WEST TO THE 40S ALONG THE EAST COAST METRO
AREAS FOR SATURDAY NIGHT. HOWEVER...IF THE LOWS DROP IN THE 12Z
RUN MODELS THEN THE WIND CHILLS MIGHT HAVE TO BE LOWERED.
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Navy 'Rail Gun' On Track; Industry Tests Set For This Month
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Quoting hydrus:
If the low is large and deep enough, Then a decent chance of that happening. Also depends on how much the air mass to the north modifies as the low tracks across the U.S..The models should have a better handle on it by the end of the weekend.


It looks as of right now that areas from the Plains to the Ohio Valley will be mainly rain, even its northern extent, as it migrates up the east coast it may be able to wrap in enough cold air support some snow especially further north. I think models are showing colder because of climatology factors which hasn't been the norm for the lower 48 this year. It wouldn't surprise me

South could be looking at a severe weather event.
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That did it! I tried not to comment on football! I understand your fear DRM. It is always nauseating enough to hear how great the giants are. ACK! Then they pick eli manning for the pro bowl! His brother I can understand, even injured. But him? And now this? It's almost unbearable! Sigh... it's a sad time in football. That trophy needs to come back to Dallas and the Buckeyes need to stay in Ohio. Then everything will be right again. :D
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New blog out concerning Cyclones Jasmine and Giovanna, Link
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Quoting TampaSpin:
Reuters Reuters Top News
FLASH: Greek Deputy Foreign Minister Xenogiannakopoulou resigns -State TV bit.ly/ybo0SF



We MIGHT have a PROBLEM it appears!


Taking a class on European integration right now, and this is all we are talking about. My professor is Greek and he keeps flipping sh**s whenever something happens. It could get very ugly over there according to him.
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Quoting ILwthrfan:


7 days out, any chance this could create a snowstorm on its northern flank at any point in its duration crossing the U.S.? Or is this the door opening to Spring?
If the low is large and deep enough, Then a decent chance of that happening. Also depends on how much the air mass to the north modifies as the low tracks across the U.S..The models should have a better handle on it by the end of the weekend.
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SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW SNOW FINALLY!

.SO SNOW LOOKS TO BE DELAYED UNTIL AFTER 21Z IN
THE FAR NW AND DORCHESTER MD...AND AFTER ABOUT 23Z/6 PM FROM
METRO RICHMOND ON SE...AND AFTER 7 OR 8 PM VA BEACH TO COASTAL NC.
LOOKS LIKE A CLASSIC CASE WHERE STRONG DYNAMICS WILL FIGHT W/ DRY
LOW LEVELS. GFS IS THE MOST AGGRESSIVE AND A LITTLE FARTHER SOUTH
THAN THE NAM/ECMWF W/ FORCING AND QPF AFTER 00Z (THAT WOULD MAINLY
BE SNOW). HAVE BUMPED POPS UP TO HIGH CHANCE OVER MUCH OF THE
CWA...BUT WILL CONFINE LIKELY POPS FOR SNOW TO CLIMO FAVORED NRN
NECK AND VA ERN SHORE...MAINLY FROM 23Z- 03Z/SUN. W/ STRONG
LIFT...COULD SEE A QUICK 1" OF SNOW IN THESE AREAS..BUT SFC TEMPS
WILL HAVE BEEN RATHER WARM SO ROADS WILL SEE MINIMAL IMPACTS.
ELSEWHERE WILL GO W/ 30-50% CHC SNOW SHOWERS...MAINLY IN THE EARLY
EVENING (AS THICKNESSES DROP...SNOW WILL BE MAIN PTYPE ALL THE WAY
TO THE NC COAST). WILL MENTION POSSIBILITY OF LIGHT SNOW ACCUMS IN
HWO FOR NOW FOR ALL ZONES. TRENDS WILL NEED TO BE WATCHED CLOSELY
BY LATER SHIFTS...IF THE SLIGHTLY MORE AMPLIFIED GFS VERIFIES...SNOW
AMOUNTS AND CHANCES WILL NEED TO BE INCREASED...ALTHOUGH EVEN A
WORST CASE SCENARIO WOULD ONLY BE LOCALLY 1-2" (AN ADVISORY).
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Quoting RitaEvac:
As Patrap stated expect chaos as we head into March, all signs point to it, as the beginning.


Beware the ides of March.

Et Tu Brute?
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Quoting RitaEvac:
As Patrap stated expect chaos as we head into March, all signs point to it, as the beginning.


beginning of what?
March Madness? :D
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Quoting macrobiologist:
Buckeyes are already that far north (and native that far north)...in fact they are as far north as SE MN, NW IA, and the Michigan UP...not to mention southern lower Michigan.

See the USDA plants database or the county-level BONAP map (http://www.bonap.org/BONAPmaps2010/Aesculus.html)

The map in the post is the center of distribution, which is a lot different from range extent.

Sorry Jeff, but I'm sure there are already thousands of Ohio buckeyes (Aesculus glabra) in Michigan, but it is true that there will probably be more in the future.



Ugh, that's terrible news! I haven't ever seen one here, but maybe my friends with chain saws have been active.

Jeff Masters
Buckeyes are already that far north (and native that far north)...in fact they are as far north as SE MN, NW IA, and the Michigan UP...not to mention southern lower Michigan.

See the USDA plants database or the county-level BONAP map (http://www.bonap.org/BONAPmaps2010/Aesculus.html)

The map in the post is the center of distribution, which is a lot different from range extent.

Sorry Jeff, but I'm sure there are already thousands of Ohio buckeyes (Aesculus glabra) in Michigan, but it is true that there will probably be more in the future.

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As Patrap stated expect chaos as we head into March, all signs point to it, as the beginning.
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This cell just went right by me with what appeared a to be rotating wall cloud.

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That aint nuttin, expect thousands of points to fall going into March, as fallout in the debt crisis in Greece and Europe, and Syria,Iran,Israel escalates
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Down she goes....this could get very nasty by day end......Many will bail to secure things before the weekend of unknown.
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8 JeffMasters "Beware the northwards march of the kudzu in Vermont--it will die when lows hit -22°F, so you need to keep your coldest nights below that threshold."

Then there's the kudzu bugs that follow.

"The bugs secrete a caustic substance that smells like a cross between a commercial cleanser and an industrial lubricant...Whatever it's for, the secretions are potent enough to etch the bottoms of the plastic tubs he uses to ship samples to colleagues — and to stain the skin on Seiter's blistered right palm a pale orange that can't be washed off."
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Quoting hydrus:
This could be the beginnings of an active storm for a good part of the U.S.


7 days out, any chance this could create a snowstorm on its northern flank at any point in its duration crossing the U.S.? Or is this the door opening to Spring?
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Quoting RitaEvac:


Here we go...


Bring me a Bud Light please....LOL
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Quoting TampaSpin:
Reuters Reuters Top News
FLASH: Greek Deputy Foreign Minister Xenogiannakopoulou resigns -State TV bit.ly/ybo0SF



We MIGHT have a PROBLEM it appears!


Here we go...
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Reuters Reuters Top News
FLASH: Greek Deputy Foreign Minister Xenogiannakopoulou resigns -State TV bit.ly/ybo0SF



We MIGHT have a PROBLEM it appears!
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20. auburn (Mod)
We Love our Kudzu in Alabama..We have to..you cant kill or outrun the stuff...
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