Extreme temperatures of 2011: 7 national all-time heat records; 1 cold record

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:14 PM GMT on January 13, 2012

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The year 2011 was the tenth warmest year on record for the globe, but the warmest year on record when a La Niña event was present (Ricky Rood has a discussion of this in his lastest post.) Seven nations and one territory broke all-time hottest temperature records. This is a far cry from 2010 (which tied for the warmest year on record), when twenty nations (plus one UK territory) set all-time hottest temperature records. One all-time coldest temperature record was set in 2011; this was the first time since 2009 one of these records was set. The all-time cold record occurred in Zambia, which ironically also set an all-time hottest temperature record in 2011. Here, then, are the most most notable extreme temperatures globally in 2011, courtesy of weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera:

Hottest temperature in the world in 2011: 53.3°C (127.9°F) in Mitrabah, Kuwait, August 3
Coldest temperature in the world in 2011: -80.2°C (-112.4°F) at Dome Fuji, Antarctica, September 18
Hottest temperature in the Southern Hemisphere: 49.4°C (120.9°F) at Roebourne, Australia, on December 21
Coldest temperature in the Northern Hemisphere: -67.2°C (-89°F) at Summit, Greenland, March 18. This is also the coldest March temperature ever recorded in the Northern Hemisphere.
Hottest undisputed 24-hour minimum temperature in world history: A minimum temperature of 41.7°C (107°F) measured at Khasab Airport in Oman on June 27


Figure 1. Seven countries and one territory set all-time hottest temperature records in 2011, and one nation set an all-time coldest temperature record. Image credit: Ilissa Ocko, Princeton University.

New country hottest temperature records set in 2011
Iraq recorded its hottest temperature on record on August 3, 2011 in Tallil (Ali military airbase), when the mercury hit 53°C (127.4°F). The previous record was 52.3°C recorded at Diwanya FOB airbase a few days before.

Armenia recorded its hottest temperature on record on July 31 in Meghri, when the mercury hit 43.7°C (110.7°F). The previous record was 43.1°C in Meghri on July 17, 2005.

Iran recorded its hottest temperature in its history on July 28, 2011, when the mercury hit 53°C (127.4°F) at Dehloran. The previous previous record was set just one day earlier at Omidieh and Shoshtar, when the mercury hit 52.6°C (126.6°F). Older hotter temperatures have been measured in Iran using automated stations, but these temperatures have been found to be overestimated.

Kuwait recorded its hottest temperature on record on August 3, 2011, when the mercury hit 53.3°C (127.9°F) at Mitrabah. The previous record was 53.1°C in Sulaibiya on June 15, 2010. The Kuwait Meteorological Center confirmed the reading as authentic, though the temperature sensor had problems between 2009 and July 2010. Some temperatures as high as 53.5°C measured at the Kuwait City Airport during 2011 were in error. The 53.3°C (127.9°F) at Mitrabah thus represents:

1) The hottest temperature measured on Earth in 2011
2) New official national record for Kuwait
3) Second highest (undisputed) temperature ever recorded in Asia
4) Highest temperature ever recorded in an Arabic country
5) Third hottest location in the planet together with Lake Havasu City, AZ (after Death
Valley, CA and Moenjodaro, Pakistan)
6) A new world record for August

China broke its national heat record for both uninhabited and inhabited locations on July 14, 2011, when the temperature soared to 50.2°C (122.4°F) at a automatic station near Adyngkol Lake (just south of Turfan), and 49.4°C (120.9°F) at the town of Tuyoq. A higher reading of 50.7°C at Aydingkol Mirabilite on 23 July 1986 has not been verified as official by the Chinese.

Republic of the Congo set a new all-time extreme heat record on March 8, 2011, when the temperature hit 39.2°C (102.6°F) at M'Pouya. Congo's previous all-time hottest temperature was 39.0°C (102.2°F) at Impfondo on May 14, 2005.

Zambia set an all-time national heat record of 109.0°F (42.8°C) at Mfuwe, on October 26, 2011, breaking the previous national record of 108.1°F (42.3°C) also set at Mfuwe, on November 17, 2010. A no longer functioning station at Lusitu, Zambia measured a higher temperature in November 1990, but surrounding stations were all about 10°C cooler, so the Lusitu 1990 reading is considered unreliable.

The French Southern and Antarctic Lands Territory tied its all-time hottest temperature record when Europa Island recorded 35.6°C (96.1°F) on November 12, 2011. The previous record was set at Juan de Nova Island on March 31, 1997.

New country coldest temperature records set in 2011
For the first time since 2009, a new national extreme cold temperature record was set. Zambia set an all-time national cold record of -9°C (16°F) at Choma on June 27, 2011, breaking the previous national record of -8°C (18°F), set on July 10, 1898, at Nalisa Western Province.

Special mention:
Russia had its hottest temperature on record at a regular synoptic reporting staion on July 30, 2011, when the mercury hit 44.3°C (111.7°F) at Divnoe in Russia's Kalmykia Republic. Three hotter temperatures have been recorded at automated stations: 45.4°C in 2010 at a hydrological station at Utta, plus readings of 45°C at El'ton and 44.5°C at Verhjnky Baskunkak in August 1940.

Weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera is the primary source of the weather records listed here and has worked tremendously hard to research them. He maintains a comprehensive list of extreme temperature records for every nation in the world on his website. If you reproduce this list of extremes, please cite Maximiliano Herrera as the primary source of the weather records.

Other posts looking back at the remarkable weather events of 2011
U.S. weather in 2011: unprecedented rains and wet/dry extremes
Top ten global weather events of 2011
2011: Year of the Tornado
Deadliest weather disaster of 2011: the East African drought
Tropical Storm Lee's flood in Binghamton: was global warming the final straw?
Wettest year on record in Philadelphia; 2011 sets record for wet/dry extremes in U.S.
Hurricane Irene: New York City dodges a potential storm surge mega-disaster


Figure 2. Portlight volunteers help distribute bottled water in the aftermath of Hurricane Irene in Raleigh, North Carolina.

Weather Underground renews as National Sponsor of Portlight Disaster Relief
This week, wunderground put out a press release in concert with Portlight Strategies, Inc.--a national grassroots non-profit organization--that Weather Underground, Inc., will again be a National Sponsor of Portlight Disaster Relief.

Hundreds of members of the wunderground.com blog community have teamed with Portlight Strategies, Inc., throughout the last three and a half years to provide much needed relief services and supplies to victims and survivors of several natural disasters, both domestically and internationally.

These relief efforts focused on helping people with disabilities, as well as people in small towns and rural areas often marginalized by the larger institutional relief infrastructure.

Portlight Strategies, Inc., has committed to building on the stunning success of this collaborative, grassroots initiative.

"Weather Underground stepping up to be one of our National Sponsors again in 2012 is a huge honor", said Paul Timmons, Jr., Portlight Strategies, Inc., Board Chair.

"We are very pleased to continue our support of Portlight Strategies because they make a real difference to otherwise neglected communities that are affected by weather-related disasters around the globe", added Alan Steremberg, President and co-founder of Weather Underground.

Visit the Portlight blog on wunderground to learn more. Donations are always welcome!

Have a great weekend everyone, and I'll be back Monday with a new post.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting SPLbeater:


think if this was 1945...wouldnt want to be the guy mowing grass in backyard who has satellite land on him xD


Well, the first satellite was launched into space in 1957. :P And I'm sure that the Soviets knew when and where Sputnik 1 going to re-enter.
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370. Some1Has2BtheRookie 6:27 PM GMT on January 15, 2012...........What a great post...Got more?..:)
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Quoting Patrap:
Strange Sound Heard Throughout Costa Rica

It begins, do not fear, it is the Earth announcing she is in Labor..



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Yo habla espanol muy malo. Yo comprendo aun peor. Tu tienes en ingles?

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Quoting presslord:
It's so comforting and reassuring to know how precisely they can predict this sort of thing...


think if this was 1945...wouldnt want to be the guy mowing grass in backyard who has satellite land on him xD
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Quoting Patrap:
Strange Sound Heard Throughout Costa Rica

It begins, do not fear, it is the Earth announcing she is in Labor..



Uploaded by N0LINKNEWS on Jan 12, 2012
It begins, do not fear, it is the Earth announcing she is in Labor....Jesus Pat...lol
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I didn't know that Nea. you'ld think they'd be on their game with an event like this.

Thanks!
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Every second the Probe travels in orbit is another 5 miles downrange, or roughly 300 miles a minute.

Some larger parts will survive the re-entry like the Bus itself and some larger fuel tanks and such.




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As I said, Russia's space agency says it's down (though you may want to take that with a grain of salt). The spacecraft wasn't seen on it's most recent pass over Europe or South America. http://satobs.org/seesat/Jan-2012/0189.html

Also:

[Update 2 (18:40 UTC): According to the US Strategic Command, Phobos-Grunt re-entered over the Pacific ocean, not far west of Chile. This is unconfirmed, but STRATCOM is usually quite reliable. As I write this, I'm pretty sure the spacecraft is down, and hopefully we'll know more about where it came down in the next few hours.]

Also:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20120115/D9S9HG20 0.html

"MOSCOW (AP) - Russia's Defense Ministry says a failed probe designed to travel to a moon of Mars has crashed, showering debris over the southern Pacific, according to news reports.

The ministry said the fragments fell Sunday 1,250 kilometers (775 miles) west of Wellington Island."

(Remember that those tracking sites don't use telemetry from the satellites, but rather the last best orbital data. It used to make me a little crazy watching them tracking shuttles orbiting the earth several hours after they had landed. For instance, there's this disclaimer on the satflare.com: "The program will countinue to show for some time the spacecraft position according to the last orbital elements but it can be already decayed")
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Yep - oops my math error - 17:52 utc has already past. forgot the extra 2 hours ..
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Strange Sound Heard Throughout Costa Rica

It begins, do not fear, it is the Earth announcing she is in Labor..



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It's so comforting and reassuring to know how precisely they can predict this sort of thing...
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Quoting Neapolitan:
Spaceflight 101 says PG is down already in the far southeastern Pacific; they're just awaiting confirmation.


I wonder why the tracking sites still have it up there w/ altitude and speed noted. Keep us posted please.
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I guess it is a somewhat elliptical orbit because for the last 30 minutes it has been gaining altitude.
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Russia's space agency says PG is down already in the far southeastern Pacific; they're just awaiting confirmation.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46005190/ns/technolog y_and_science-space/
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Quoting bappit:

Otherwise, how are things in Bikini Bottom today?
Sunny and brrrrr cold :).
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maybe some kinda current will wash the thing to Topsail Island NC and next time i go down there i can have me an unforgetable suvanier lol
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Grunt - estimated eta just before 3pm est - this would put it on the final orbit.
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Quoting Skyepony:
Grunt decent has updated here.. Falling much sooner than expected. Now projected landing along the NE coast of Africa. If the trend holds it should splash just short of there in the Atlantic.


Quoting docrod:
Grunt update

Error projection down to 19 minutes ... South America

I've never seen the error estimate for re-entry get this low on this site

Link


Hasn't it already passed that point?
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Quoting presslord:


btw....take notes.....Nea and I will disagree on this without calling each other names or questioning each others' character...


And that, sir, is what makes you a gentleman with integrity and honor. We need more like you here!
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Skyepony-

the link you gave me on the PNA effectiveness on North Carolina was very helpful. Basic, got to the point, and i understood very well with my young mind lol. will watch the PNA observations closer now :D
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372. Skyepony (Mod)
Many have taken longer to fall than projected. This one is coming in faster.
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Grunt update

Error projection down to 19 minutes ... South America

I've never seen the error estimate for re-entry get this low on this site

Link
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Quoting ncgnto25:


Right on-Xyrus. I haven't heard it said any better. Both sides of the aisle have a vested interest in 'dumbing' down the populace, because if the majority figured out what they are really doing in Congress, we would throw them all out-lock, stock and barrel and put them all where they belong-jail. Until the two party system (that thrives on extreme polarization and fosters out and out hatred of one party toward the other from both sides) is broken and the hierarchies in both parties are dismantled so people with real ideas and willingness to do what we need can be effective, we will continue to head toward the precipice. Once great countries that are in decay never realize it until it is too late.
It may take a second oil embargo to get us to realize what the path to clean energy independence really is, and if you don't think it could happen, look at Iran right now. As much as we need to work toward cleaner energy, we have to become self sufficient here. A successful embargo would cripple us, and then how would we work toward cleaner energy?? Technology is advancing, but slowly. We need to work together to speed it up, but, again, the polarization of the parties and the politics prevents that from happening. Whether global warming is really being enhanced by man or not is totally irrelevant. Even if we cut emissions by 50% in the US, it wouldn't make a hill of beans. It will take years to get the infrastructure in place to implement usage of clean energy at a level that would clean up our environment. But we need to get going now to make this transition happen in the framework of the real world.
Dr. Masters-do you have any thoughts on how to really effect changes that it should be a no-brainer to make no matter which side of the debate you are on?


Very well said.
Do have any true desires to make changes? Do you seek a government that is by the people, for the people and of the people? I have some ideas that should be the first steps towards obtaining this goal:

1. Immediately outlaw ALL professional lobbyists. - We have the Constitutional right to petition our government. One should be willing to do so without being paid to do so. When one is paid to do so then they are more apt to petition on the behalf of a special interest group. The only special interest group that should be listened to is we, the people.
2. Outlaw anyone from attending townhall meetings of a representative that is not in their representative district. Only the constituents of that representative should be given a voice to that representative, in a townhall meeting.
3. End ALL ryders from being attached to any bill. Any cause, for legislation, should be able to pass based upon its own merits and not attached to an otherwise good bill.
4. Reinstate the Presidential line item veto powers. I disagree with The Supreme Court's ruling that this gives too much power to The Office of The President. Line item vetoes, as with any Presidential veto, was set up to over ridden by a 2/3 vote in the Senate. Line item vetoes did not change any of the Senate's powers to over ride a veto. That power still remained, in full force, for the Senate.
5. End Congress's ability to use insider trading. Anyone that exercises Congress's ability for insider trading is subject to being put in prison. No free nation should permit trading by the very legislative force that is considering legislation that could impact a business or a business sector.
6. Install term limits for ALL elected official. I use to be a firm believer that we should let the voters decide how long a politician should remain in office by the power of our vote. I now know that the power of the vote has become too diluted by the incumbents. Incumbents already have name recognition, the power to gain campaign funds from special interest groups and use their office to make promises to these special interest groups. Our elected positions were never meant to be a career for any politician.
7. True Campaign Finance Reform. I, as probably everyone here, strongly object to any non citizen, or the ability of anyone not otherwise entitled to vote, to have a voice in our elections based upon their ability to put up monies towards getting a candidate into office. Once again, The Supreme Court's ruling that corporations "are people too" is a most egregious slap in the face of every citizen that has the right to vote in our elections. Just as we cry out when we think non citizens may be voting in our elections we should also being crying out when multinational corporations are given a voice in our elections. Corporations that have multinational interests at stake and not the concern of our citizens at stake. Corporations are comprised of people and this is true enough. However, not all of these people would be otherwise entitled to vote in our elections. How many of our corporations have foreign CEOs at their helm? Corporations also hire people that are not otherwise eligible to vote in our elections. People that are non citizens, too young or have felonies against them that stripped them of their right to vote. To use the call of "freedom of speech" is a fallacy when that freedom of speech has monetary attachments to it. The freedom of speech, given to us in our Constitution, allows us to say anything we wish about our government and those that hold elected office without fear of reprisal from our government. Nothing more and nothing less. ... We are a nation of one person, one vote and have allowed this process to become bastardized when the ones with the most money have the loudest voice. There is no escaping this simple fact. I, also, will never believe that corporations "are people too" until I see a corporation physically incarcerated in one of our prisons or given a voter's registration card and they physically walk into a poll booth and cast a ballot. Until such time I firmly believe that corporations are nothing more than entity, devised by man, for the profits.

Do you want to return our nation to being a representative force of the people, by the people and for the people? Well, in my opinion, we have to accomplish these goals first.

Now, for the weather/climate portion of this post, I would like to predict that our political future remains extremely cloudy. Strong head winds are with us and for the foreseeable future. We will also have to confront a lot of hot air and the political belching of pollutants from both locally and from afar. ... I will now step down from my soap box. I am allergic to any rotten tomatoes that may be cast in my direction. ;-)
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369. Skyepony (Mod)
Senators: Lake Champlain flooding gauges funded
January 15, 2012 12:19 PM
Associated Press

MONTPELIER, Vt. (AP) -- U.S. Senators from Vermont and New York say funding for flood gauges in the Lake Champlain basin has been secured.

Democratic Sens. Patrick Leahy of Vermont and Charles Schumer of New York say the funding will prevent the imminent shutdown of river and lake gauges in the basin.

The 18 U.S. Geological Survey gauges, nine in each state, proved their worth last year forecasting spring floods and Tropical Storm Irene. Before Irene hit, they enabled first responders, local and state officials, farmers and businesses to plan ahead of the rising flood waters and act.

Budget cuts this year threatened funding for the gauges, but Leahy and Schumer appealed to the Great Lakes Fishery Commission to use funds in its budget to keep the gauges going.


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Phobos-Grunt still 147 Km ASL. Seems to me it would have a hard time making it to the surface on the next pass, but I ain't no rocket scientist.

Link

Link

Sure would like to see it streak across the sky!!!
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Quoting washingtonian115:
Normally I don't watch spongebob with my kids.But right now I'm watching the episode where the Flying dutchman has no beard...and he doesn't look right.

Otherwise, how are things in Bikini Bottom today?
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Is there a special reason why the word "teleconnection" was introduced? Aren't they just talking about correlations?
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You may remember the story of how the devil and a friend of his were walking down the street, when they saw ahead of them a man stoop down and pick up something from the ground, look at it, and put it away in his pocket. The friend said to the devil, "What did that man pick up?" "He picked up a piece of the truth," said the devil. "That is a very bad business for you, then," said his friend. "Oh, not at all," the devil replied, "I am going to help him organize it."
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Quoting Neapolitan:

The deepwater methodology certain complicated things in the Gulf. But a mid-winter spill in ice-choked Arctic waters cloaked in howling winds, sub-zero temps, and semi-permanent darkness is going to complicate things a dozen-fold, or a hundred. I'm just saying that maybe we shouldn't simply take Big Oil at its word that it would be ready for any drilling eventuality; they've proven that they're not.


I'm all for not believing Big Oil...about much of anything...ever.....I just can't find a way to do the things I have to do without consuming dead dinosaurs....
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Normally I don't watch spongebob with my kids.But right now I'm watching the episode where the Flying dutchman has no beard...and he doesn't look right.
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Quoting presslord:


btw....take notes.....Nea and I will disagree on this without calling each other names or questioning each others' character...
Hello Press..More New England weather for us here on the plateau again............................................. ..............M.L.King Day: Scattered showers. Cloudy, with a high near 53. South wind between 10 and 15 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 50%.

Monday Night: Showers and possibly a thunderstorm. Low around 47. South wind around 15 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%.

Tuesday: Showers and possibly a thunderstorm before noon, then scattered showers. High near 60. South wind 15 to 20 mph becoming northwest. Winds could gust as high as 30 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%.
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Presentation from a recent EMC Seminar:


The Impact of Dropwindsonde and Supplemental Rawindsonde Observations on Track Forecasts of Hurricane Irene
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359. Skyepony (Mod)
Institutional investors with a collective $26 trillion under management opened a new front on Thursday in the fight against climate change, urging the private sector to mobilize, follow the money and find new technologies to cut greenhouse gas emissions. More here..


This makes sense. Instead of buying oil shares & such..letting them be king of the economy, invest elsewhere & against them. All the investment & subsidies to natural gas have led to fracking...you have geologists, Doctors & locals that want it stopped. Between the warm weather & flood of extra natural gas on the market the price is way down & the price of the natural gas companies have fallen off too. This Institutional investment money, it..like how we sparked the dot com investments..that invested money creates technology & market rallies. Kinda spent on the new phone/TV thing for now.. & those stocks are outrageous. Also betting on big oil has overall been bad for the economy & insurance which hurts Institutional investment firms. The way the weather has become more unstable because of climate change ups their interest in sustainable.
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Quoting presslord:
well....the ocean depth was the big impediment in the Gulf....as with Exxon Valdez, oil and water don't mix well....ANWR is conflicting to me...I can argue both sides...

The deepwater methodology certain complicated things in the Gulf. But a mid-winter spill in ice-choked Arctic waters cloaked in howling winds, sub-zero temps, and semi-permanent darkness is going to complicate things a dozen-fold, or a hundred. I'm just saying that maybe we shouldn't simply take Big Oil at its word that it would be ready for any drilling eventuality; they've proven that they're not.
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Quoting ncgnto25:


And leave us powerless and defenseless. You have grand dreams for a cleaner world and no real world answers. If you have a real world answer, let's hear it. It is easy to complain and you're among the best. If YOU don't start doing something, then WHO? If you have any idea how to do it-then what is it??
Wow, that was quite an angry response. But there wasn't a word said about the potentially incredible environmental damage inherent in an ANWR spill due to the logistical nightmare of mounting a timely and effective response. Any thoughts on that matter?

Now, you claim I have no "real world answers". That's not true at all. In fact, here's one: let's stop listening to the lies Big Energy tells us; that's the first step. Here's another: let's stop listening to Big Energy's media mouthpieces as they shove down our throats story after story about the "debacle" of Solyndra, and talk instead about the thousands of other increasingly successful alternative energy stories. And here's yet another: let's stop pretending that fossil fuels are a clean, safe, sustainable alternative to clean energy. And one more: let's stop kidding ourselves that waiting before doing anything to mitigate climate change will save us money in the long run. (It won't; mitigation later will cost trillions.)

Anyway, since we're here, I've a few responses to your comment #345:

First, it's extremely relevant that people understand that the planet is warming because of our burning of fossil fuels. Failing to acknowledge that makes it far too easy for people to throw their hands in the air and do nothing about it.

Second, if the U.S. could somehow get the political will to cut our emissions even a bit (much less 50%), it would indeed make a huge "hill of beans". We're still far and away the largest per-capita CO2 emitter of any large-sized nation, so an extreme decrease in our emissions. Also, we like to fancy our nation as a--or the--world leader; as such, we have an obligation to clean up our act first before asking others to do so.

Finally, you've used a little false equivalency. Especially where energy policy is concerned, one party is far and away more adamant about maintaining the fossil fuel status quo. So much so, in fact, that every one of the current crop of GOP Presidential wannabes has had to deny climate science and scientists in order to rise above single-digit poll numbers (sorry, Jon; you don't stand a chance). There are certainly corrupt individuals on both sides of the aisle in it for themselves. But it's unfair and unwise to claim both POVs are equally removed from reality. They aren't.

Bottom line: continuing to live The Big Lie of Denialism and therefore doing nothing is definitely going to "leave us powerless and defenseless". And I have no "grand dreams for a cleaner world"; I just think we have a moral imperative to not leave our children an unliveably overheated ball of carbon-clogged air. Who wouldn't think that?
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2 strong earthquakes near extreme south chile.
6.5 mainshock
6.2 aftershock
another view

These earthquakes are located at the south shetland islands (lol @ the name no offense to the people who live there) south shetland islands...lol
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355. Skyepony (Mod)
It rained small yellow fish in the Philippines..

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354. Skyepony (Mod)
93S aka Subtropical Depression 06R

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Quoting presslord:
well....the ocean depth was the big impediment in the Gulf....as with Exxon Valdez, oil and water don't mix well....ANWR is conflicting to me...I can argue both sides...


btw....take notes.....Nea and I will disagree on this without calling each other names or questioning each others' character...
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well....the ocean depth was the big impediment in the Gulf....as with Exxon Valdez, oil and water don't mix well....ANWR is conflicting to me...I can argue both sides...
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Quoting Xyrus2000:


The general population in the US knows as much about socialism as they do about world geography.


I believe that most of the fear of socialism in the US is just remains of the cold war and the people who were old enough to be around for the 50s-80s remember quite clearly all the propaganda that bombarded them about how bad communism and socialism is. You can clearly see this just from the opinion on communism of people who were too young, or not alive when the USSR fell over 20 years ago, they tend to not be blinded by the fact that it is evil and is going to "kill your children". There also appears to be a more open-mindedness about the new generation when it comes to political ideologies.

Just saying that most of the Western world knows only of communism from the remnant fear of it in the elders.
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Quoting Neapolitan:
That Russian tanker loaded with fuel has finally made its way to Nome, Alaska. It took weeks of 24-hour ice-breaking work by a U.S. Coast Guard cutter, but the tanker is finally moored offshore of Nome, and the fuel pumping operation will begin, likely today. Residents are relieved, I'm sure. However...

Oil companies have been salivating for years over the possibility of drilling for crude in the National Wildlife Refuge and surrounding areas. Environmentalists have tried to stop them, one of their claims being that the harsh Arctic environment would make it extremely difficult to bring in the equipment and manpower needed to clean up any large-scale spills. Big Energy has responded by stating that there's no need to worry; they could get things in place quickly enough to clamp things off in a hurry.

Really?

Working in the balmy waters of the Gulf of Mexico and very close to all the resources they could possibly need, it nevertheless took experts weeks to stop the flow at the infamous Deepwater Horizon site. Are we to really believe, then, that these same people would be able to respond quickly enough to any inevitable Arctic spills to prevent incredible damage?

Yet another reason for us to relegate oil pumps to the museum, if you ask me.


And leave us powerless and defenseless. You have grand dreams for a cleaner world and no real world answers. If you have a real world answer, let's hear it. It is easy to complain and you're among the best. If YOU don't start doing something, then WHO? If you have any idea how to do it-then what is it??
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Quoting Grothar:


Here you are SPL. The full synopsis. I hope you enjoy it. If you have any further questions, ask me in the morning. P.S. There are 3 grammatical errors in the report. See if you can find them.

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Quoting Skyepony:
SPL~ I thought someone answered this right after you asked it the first time? Anyways, here's how it effects NC..


thank you both, i read the heading for the article but will read when i get back from church.

Skye- it might have been answered from somebody i have had in my ignore list for awhile, lol. be back soon!
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Quoting docrod:
Update on Grunt re-entry. Margin of error reduced to three hours.

Predicted Reentry Time:15 JAN 2012 @ 19:21 UTC ± 3 hours

South Florida is no longer in the expected path, but a considerable amount of land is.

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Gotta love all the recent headlines:

Russia space agency: Doomed Mars probe will hit Argentina


Phobos-Grunt to fall on China - Roscosmos

Russia Says Its Mars Probe May Fall into Pacific

Out of control space probe to crash land in hours - and could hit the UK
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That Russian tanker loaded with fuel has finally made its way to Nome, Alaska. It took weeks of 24-hour ice-breaking work by a U.S. Coast Guard cutter, but the tanker is finally moored offshore of Nome, and the fuel pumping operation will begin, likely today. Residents are relieved, I'm sure. However...

Oil companies have been salivating for years over the possibility of drilling for crude in the National Wildlife Refuge and surrounding areas. Environmentalists have tried to stop them, one of their claims being that the harsh Arctic environment would make it extremely difficult to bring in the equipment and manpower needed to clean up any large-scale spills. Big Energy has responded by stating that there's no need to worry; they could get things in place quickly enough to clamp things off in a hurry.

Really?

Working in the balmy waters of the Gulf of Mexico and very close to all the resources they could possibly need, it nevertheless took experts weeks to stop the flow at the infamous Deepwater Horizon site. Are we to really believe, then, that these same people would be able to respond quickly enough to any inevitable Arctic spills to prevent incredible damage?

Yet another reason for us to relegate oil pumps to the museum, if you ask me.
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346. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Seychelles Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #3
DEPRESSION SUBTROPICALE 06-20112012
16:00 PM RET January 15 2012
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At 12:00 PM UTC, Subtropical Depression 06R (998 hPa) located at 27.5S 38.8E has 10 minute sustained winds of 35 knots with gusts of 50 knots. The depression is reported as moving west at 15 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: NIL

Gale Force Winds
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50 NM from the center in the southern semi-circle

Near Gale Force Winds
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30 NM from the center extending up to 200 NM in the southern semi-circle

Forecast and Intensity
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12 HRS: 26.4S 36.0E - 40 knots (Depression Subtropicale)
24 HRS: 25.3S 34.1E - 45 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modérée)
48 HRS: 23.7S 32.0E - 20 knots (Depression sur Terre)

Additional Information
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Last animated pictures depict convection closer to the center in the northeastern quadrant. ASCAT data at 0700 AM UTC show gale force winds in the southern semi-circle. The wind field structure is asymmetric in relation with the gradient effect with the subtropical high pressures. System is tracking westward at about 15 knots. For the next 24 hours, numerical weather prediction models are in fairly good agreement for a slight slowdown and a track curving north-westward. Actually system is under the steering influence of the low to mid-level strengthening high pressures centered over south of South Africa.

Consequently, system is forecast to make landfall on the coast of the south Mozambique by about 24 hours. On its track, system is expected to encounter good environmental conditions for intensification and should take a tropical structure before the landfall: favorable oceanic heat content, good east and south low level convergence, good upper level divergence with an poleward outflow.

Most of the available numerical weather prediction models are in good agreement for intensification of the system before its landfall that is currently forecast at the maximum stage of moderate tropical storm in the Bay of Maputo.
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Quoting Xyrus2000:


Any democratic system DEPENDS on a well educated populace. Without a well educated public the whole system falls apart. And in case you haven't noticed, the US education scores haven't been all that stellar.

Voting doesn't matter. Once you've convinced people and got them voting against their own best interests, then democracy effectively dies.


Right on-Xyrus. I haven't heard it said any better. Both sides of the aisle have a vested interest in 'dumbing' down the populace, because if the majority figured out what they are really doing in Congress, we would throw them all out-lock, stock and barrel and put them all where they belong-jail. Until the two party system (that thrives on extreme polarization and fosters out and out hatred of one party toward the other from both sides) is broken and the hierarchies in both parties are dismantled so people with real ideas and willingness to do what we need can be effective, we will continue to head toward the precipice. Once great countries that are in decay never realize it until it is too late.
It may take a second oil embargo to get us to realize what the path to clean energy independence really is, and if you don't think it could happen, look at Iran right now. As much as we need to work toward cleaner energy, we have to become self sufficient here. A successful embargo would cripple us, and then how would we work toward cleaner energy?? Technology is advancing, but slowly. We need to work together to speed it up, but, again, the polarization of the parties and the politics prevents that from happening. Whether global warming is really being enhanced by man or not is totally irrelevant. Even if we cut emissions by 50% in the US, it wouldn't make a hill of beans. It will take years to get the infrastructure in place to implement usage of clean energy at a level that would clean up our environment. But we need to get going now to make this transition happen in the framework of the real world.
Dr. Masters-do you have any thoughts on how to really effect changes that it should be a no-brainer to make no matter which side of the debate you are on?
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Update on Grunt re-entry. Margin of error reduced to three hours.

Predicted Reentry Time:15 JAN 2012 @ 19:21 UTC ± 3 hours

South Florida is no longer in the expected path, but a considerable amount of land is.

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Quoting ChillinInTheKeys:
Well, another season comes to an end!!!
That was a classic game! You have nothing to hang your head over, some teams wish they were in the spot you guys were in.
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