2011: Year of the Tornado

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 7:25 PM GMT on December 27, 2011

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The year 2011 will forever be known as Year of the Tornado in the U.S. A series of violent severe storms swept across the Plains and Southeast U.S., bringing an astonishing six billion-dollar disasters in a three-month period. The epic tornado onslaught killed 552 people and caused $25 billion in damage. Three of the five largest tornado outbreaks on record hit in a six-week period, including the largest and most expensive tornado outbreak in U.S. history--the $10.2 billion dollar Southeast U.S. Super Outbreak, April 25 - 28. Even more stunning was the $9 billion late-May tornado outbreak that brought an EF-5 tornado to Joplin, Missouri. The Joplin tornado did $3 billion in damage and killed 158 people--the largest death toll from a U.S. tornado since 1947, seventh deadliest tornado in U.S. history, and the most expensive tornado in world history. In a year of amazing weather extremes, this year's tornado season ranks as the top U.S. weather story of 2011.


Video 1. Remarkable video of the tornado that hit Tuscaloosa, Alabama on April 27, 2011. Fast forward to minute four to see the worst of the storm.



Figure 1. A truly frightening radar image: multiple hook echoes from at least ten supercell thunderstorms cover Mississippi, Alabama, and Tennessee during the height of the April 27, 2011 Super Outbreak. A multi-hour animation is available here.

A record six EF-5 tornadoes confirmed in 2011
Six top-end EF-5 tornadoes hit the U.S. in 2011, tying this year with 1974 for the greatest number of these most destructive tornadoes. The EF-5 tornadoes of 2011:

1) The April 27, 2011 Neshoba/Kemper/Winston/Noxubee Counties, Mississippi tornado (3 killed, 29 mile path length.)

2) The April 27, 2011 Smithville, Mississippi tornado (22 killed, 15 mile path length.)

3) The April 27, 2011 Hackleburg, Alabama tornado (71 killed, 25 mile path length.)

4) The April 27, 2011 Rainsville/Dekalb County, Alabama tornado (26 killed, 34 mile path length.)

5) The May 22, 2011 Joplin Missouri tornado (158 killed, 14 mile path length.)

6) The May 24, 2011 Binger-El Reno-Peidmont-Guthrie, Oklahoma tornado. (9 killed, 75 mile path length.)


Figure 2. Aerial view of damage from the May 22, 2011 Joplin, Missouri tornado. Image credit: Wikipedia.


Figure 3. EF-5 damage from the April 27, 2011 Neshoba tornado in Mississippi. The tornado was so powerful that it dug out the ground to a depth of two feet over an area 25 - 50 yards wide and several hundred yards long. Image credit: NWS.

A few other remarkable statistics on the tornado season of 2011, compiled from NOAA's official press release, the NOAA Extreme Weather 2011 page, and Wikipedia's excellent tornado pages:

- The tornado death toll of 552 in 2011 ties 1936 as the second deadliest year for tornadoes in U.S. history. Only 1925, with 794 fatalities, was deadlier. In 1936, violent tornadoes hit Tupelo Mississippi (216 killed), and Gainesville, Georgia (203 killed.) During the 1930s, the tornado death rate per million people was 60 - 70 times as great as in the year 2000 (Figure 4), implying that this year's tornadoes may have killed tens of thousands of people if we did not have our modern tornado modern warning system.


Figure 4. Death rate per million people per year in U.S., 1875-2011. Thin line with dots is raw rate, curved thick line is death rate, filtered by 3-point median and 5-point running mean filter, and straight solid lines are least squares fit to filtered death rate for 1875-1925 and 1925-2011. Dashed lines are estimates of 10th and 90th percentile death rates from 1925-2000. The death rate fell from 8 per million to .12 per million between 1940 and 2010. Image credit: A Brief History of Deaths from Tornadoes in the United States, Harold Brooks and Charles Doswell III, and updated by Harold Brooks in 2011.

- April 2011 had the most tornadoes of any month in U.S. history--753. The previous record was 542, set in May 2003. The previous busiest April was in 1974, with 267 tornadoes. The average number of tornadoes for the month of April during the past decade was 161, and the 30-year average for April tornadoes was 135.

- On April 27, 199 confirmed tornadoes touched down. This is the largest 1-day tornado total on record, beating the 148 recorded in 24 hours on April 3 - 4, 1974.

The year 2011 now has three of the top five tornado outbreaks on record (note, though, that reliable records for number of tornadoes only extend back in time to about the early 1990s):

- The April 25 - 28, 2011 Super tornado outbreak, with 343 tornadoes, is now the largest tornado outbreak in U.S. history. The previous record (3 days or less duration) was 148 tornadoes, set during the April 3 - 4, 1974 Super Outbreak.

- The May 22 - 27, 2011 tornado outbreak, with 180 confirmed tornadoes, ranks as the 4th largest 6-day or shorter tornado outbreak on record. A May 2003 6-day outbreak had 289 tornadoes, and a May 2004 6-day outbreak had 229 tornadoes.

- The April 14 - 16, 2011 tornado outbreak, with 177 confirmed tornadoes, ranks as the second largest tornado outbreak of three days or less duration on record, and 5th largest outbreak of six or fewer days duration.

- The May 22, 2011 Joplin, Missouri tornado killed 158 people and injured 1150, making it the deadliest U.S. tornado since 1947, and 7th deadliest in history. The $3 billion estimate of insured damage makes it the most expensive tornado in world history.

- Preliminary damage estimates from Munich Re insurance company put 2011's insured losses due to U.S. thunderstorms and tornadoes at $25 billion, more than double the previous record set in 2010.

- The year 2011 now ranks in 2nd place behind 1973 for greatest number of tornadoes greater than EF-0 strength (EF-1, EF-2, EF-3, EF-4 and EF-5 strength, Figure 5.)


Figure 5. Number of EF-1, EF-2, EF-3, EF-4 and EF-5 tornadoes from 1950 to 2011. The total shown for 2011 is preliminary and uses unofficial numbers through November 17, but 2011 now ranks in 2nd place behind 1973. There is not a decades-long increasing trend in the numbers of tornadoes stronger than EF-0, implying that climate change, as yet, is not having a noticeable impact on U.S. tornadoes. However, statistics of tornado frequency and intensity are highly uncertain. Major changes in the rating process occurred in the mid-1970s (when all tornadoes occurring prior to about 1975 were retrospectively rated), and again in 2001, when scientists began rating tornadoes lower because of engineering concerns and unintended consequences of National Weather Service policy changes. Also, beginning in 2007, NOAA switched from the F-scale to the EF-scale for rating tornado damage, causing additional problems with attempting to assess if tornadoes are changing over time. Data provided by Harold Brooks, NOAA/National Severe Storms Laboratory.

Other posts looking back at the remarkable weather events of 2011
Deadliest weather disaster of 2011: the East African drought
Tropical Storm Lee's flood in Binghamton: was global warming the final straw?
Wettest year on record in Philadelphia; 2011 sets record for wet/dry extremes in U.S.
Hurricane Irene: New York City dodges a potential storm surge mega-disaster

The NWS posted a summary of the records set during the tornado season of 2011 in February 2012.

Jeff Masters

Joplin Tornado Damage (thebige)
Joplin Tornado Damage
Tornado - Pine Apple,AL (EarlBcom)
Tornado just south of Pine Apple, AL on around 5:40pm. This storm was a part of the Alabama tornado outbreak on April 15, 2011. earlb.com VIDEO - See video of tornado at earlb.com
Tornado - Pine Apple,AL
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My husband and I were visiting my parents in Birmingham, Alabama. We decided to take a day trip to Tuscaloosa to see the damage from the April 27 tornado. It was a sight that I will never forget. Blocks and blocks of flattened houses and stores. This area has not been touched in 2 months. It was so moving that I started to cry thinking of all these poor people.
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You stopped?????


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Get to the beach. You have time....
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Quoting caperes2011:


No they don't or they would not have run so many people off.


Agreed. I like to avoid conflict. When I've been in conflict before it was generally in defense of people here. I have defended Dr. M and other prominent posters many times and I still have a lot of respect for many people. But why would someone change the content of private emails without the sender's knowledge? That is creepy and unacceptable. And that applies regardless of where you want to spend your time. I spent a lot of hours here, I've contributed to charities, and I've admired a lot of people, a number of whom are still here. I still like to read and evaluate data on GW...I think Dr. M has a right to use his own blog as a forum for that. What really bothers me is the alteration of private emails without even notifying the sender. That crosses the line in my book, even if it's legal.
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Calendar doesn't say June 1st yet.

Yer using the wrong calendar...
Everyone else is using the Mayan one.
You best hurry. There is little time left.....
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Well, my flight is now scheduled to leave at 3 p.m. Somewhat disappointing, yes... however, it is a beautiful day here in Fort Lauderdale, and I have internet!

LOL
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pottery....Is it time to start drinkin' yet?!?!?!


Calendar doesn't say June 1st yet.
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Quoting SPLbeater:


Irene was 'just a 1' and it washed out a road conecting the outer banks to the rest of them islands and the mainland(i think) with 85 mph windspeeds. i seriously wish to have a scale created with storm surge a factor!
I'm thinking maybe a SSHS with a Surge Factor added. "Hurricane Xero is expected to impact US coastal areas as a category three with moderate surge factor..." I don't think a simple modification of SSHS will work; we've got multiple examples of hurricanes with relatively low winds but high storm surge, and I'm sure the opposite is possible as well.

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Quoting presslord:
pottery....Is it time to start drinkin' yet?!?!?!
You stopped?????
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pottery....Is it time to start drinkin' yet?!?!?!
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Nothing insane about it. Trust me, admin here knows what they are doing.


No they don't or they would not have run so many people off.
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Quoting hydrus:
I think you know darn well what RED I was eluding to. I cant imagine the climate having anything to with the weather..Cant even entertain the very thought...HHHHAAAAA ..:)

heheheheheh
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Quoting BahaHurican:
Hey all. Blogging to you from the Ft. Lauderdale FL airport, I am. My flight's been delayed due to fog at Nassau airport this morning. Apparently it was so bad they had to close the airport this morning. IIRC, such early morning fog is usually caused by some kind of inversion, yes?
Absolutely..See that "H" over Floridy..Thats Inversion City
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530. @Sangria,
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Quoting SPLbeater:


LOL that is insanely funny how it hides it.

@SPL (added for clarity if this comment is quoted)
Nothing insane about it. Trust me, admin here knows what (edit to singular) it is doing.
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Quoting pottery:

That lost me....
Are we talking reduction copper reds?
my Commie tendencies?
or the leftover ham I just had for lunch?

in any case, all is well here, as the rain comes down again with strong easterly gusts for the past couple of days.
Very nice, but word is that the north coast is getting big seas..
I should be there....
I think you know darn well what RED I was eluding to. I cant imagine the climate having anything to with the weather..Cant even entertain the very thought...HHHHAAAAA ..:)
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Quoting BahaHurican:
Hey all. Blogging to you from the Ft. Lauderdale FL airport, I am. My flight's been delayed due to fog at Nassau airport this morning. Apparently it was so bad they had to close the airport this morning. IIRC, such early morning fog is usually caused by some kind of inversion, yes?
Any wind there, Baha?
Its been strong down here, with high-surf warnings....
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Quoting Sangria:
These were just a few that I tested, but it was enough to determine that this is not a "rule" that is being enforced, but IS an attempt to restrict a member's ability to share information.

It's not "an attempt to restrict a member's ability to share information"; it's a hugely popular website preventing unpaid hyperlinks to a very small website, as is its right. Allowing free links would be unfair to those many advertisers here who pay to have links to their sites.
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Quoting hydrus:
Go Pott...Go Pott....Hows the Red these days?..:)

That lost me....
Are we talking reduction copper reds?
my Commie tendencies?
or the leftover ham I just had for lunch?

in any case, all is well here, as the rain comes down again with strong easterly gusts for the past couple of days.
Very nice, but word is that the north coast is getting big seas..
I should be there....
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Hey all. Blogging to you from the Ft. Lauderdale FL airport, I am. My flight's been delayed due to fog at Nassau airport this morning. Apparently it was so bad they had to close the airport this morning. IIRC, such early morning fog is usually caused by some kind of inversion, yes?
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Quoting Skyepony:
TRMM caught 98W too.. click pic for smaller quicktime. Where it is raining in that system it is pouring.




Morning Pottery.. I've got a few tropical plants, holed up in the house, wishing they were down your way this morning..

LOL, they would be loving this weather...
80-ish temps, showers and sunshine.
Everything here is flowering and fruiting.
Too many bananas, oranges and grapefruit to deal with, so friends and family are getting the surplus.

Hope you had a Good one, Skye, and that Santa brought you what you wanted!
All the very best for 2012 to you, and yours.
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Quoting pottery:

Huh!
And here I was, thinking that somehow the two were related in some way.

Just goes to prove something or the other.
sigh...
Go Pott...Go Pott....Hows the Red these days?..:)
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Quoting SPLbeater:


im certainly not starting an agrguement, but isnt this called Weather Underground not climate Underground? :D
How can something like the fricken climate not be inextricably pertinent to tropical meteorology or weather.?.....thats it,,,, i,m rollin another....
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Quoting SPLbeater:


i just visited .com. i immideately saw a few past wunderground members that i liked before i was SPLbeater. i was visitor at that time. and it ssad to not have them here.( so i typed w e at h e r b u n k e r , did it hide it?


LOL that is insanely funny how it hides it.
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Has anyone heard about the debris field from the Japan tsunami? Someone needs to figure out a way to protect the reefs.
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531. Skyepony (Mod)
Little swirl off ECFL I noted on radar is showing up on visible too.


Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
Wow. Wunderground is predicting a low of 25 degrees for northern Hillsborough Co, Fl, while the NWS is forecasting a significantly more mild 37. I imagine the Wunderground forecast is based solely on model guidance and the NWS is using human forecasts. We'll see if it gets that cold.


Bestcast is more than model guidance..it uses some info for the PWS it is forecasting for. So if that info is not accurate for which ever PWS you watch I'd go with NWS. Bestcast is in it's first year too. Yesterday morning's Bestcast & NWS offical forecast..both were way colder & adjusted up by day's end. I've gotten used to it's ways for my PWS & use it like another tool in coming up with my own forecast..
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Quoting Xyrus2000:


It's Dr. M's blog. You agreed to the terms and conditions when you sign up. The terms and conditions actually aren't all that much different from other popular websites (if you actually care to read the terms). He can post what he wants, when he wants.

Climate change and weather go hand in hand. A rather large body of scientific evidence and research show that this is so. Dr. M posts references to this research when blogging about the influences climate has on weather, and how our currently changing climate is affecting weather. If you want climate discussions based on belief and "truthiness" instead of scientific fact, go to Steven McIntyre's or Anthony Watts's sites.

Now, if you find scientific discussions on such matters not to be your cup of tea, don't like having your beliefs challenged, or if you suddenly bothered to read the terms and conditions and find them not to your liking, then by all means go somewhere else. But You were not misled. You were not duped. This is Dr. M's house. You either play by his rules or you get shown the door.


You are correct. Any member who signed up agreed to the terms and conditions. I believe that "linking" to a commercial weather site is prohibited. I accept that this is the rule; however, if I mention that I saw a posting of value on the bunker site in a WU mail to another WU member, this is not linking for promotional purposes. Yet, my email is changed. Not only is it changed on the recipient's end, it is also changed in my "sent" box, as though I actually typed the "changed" words. This practice, I believe, would be beyond questionable.

Also, of note.....the rule regarding linking to commercial sites is not applied to any other websites that I tested, except for .com ( this is the Bunker site I have typed, in case it is changed). I tested the following in my own WU mail account. Within the account it changes the Bunker site to wunderground.com....here is this blog comment, I believe it will change it to just ".com"



wunderground.com
.com----->this is the Bunker website
weather.com
accuweather.com
thextremeweather.com


These were just a few that I tested, but it was enough to determine that this is not a "rule" that is being enforced, but IS an attempt to restrict a member's ability to share information.
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529. Skyepony (Mod)
TRMM caught 98W too.. click pic for smaller quicktime. Where it is raining in that system it is pouring.




Morning Pottery.. I've got a few tropical plants, holed up in the house, wishing they were down your way this morning..
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Quoting SPLbeater:


im certainly not starting an agrguement, but isnt this called Weather Underground not climate Underground? :D

Huh!
And here I was, thinking that somehow the two were related in some way.

Just goes to prove something or the other.
sigh...
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Quoting hydrus:
Good post Xyrus. I have been saying for a few years now ( although not often ) that the Earth,s climate getting warmer or "global warming" as it is called has every bit to do with tropical weather as tropical cyclones do. It in fact would be absurd not to be discussing relevant scientific research on the subject. jmo...


im certainly not starting an agrguement, but isnt this called Weather Underground not climate Underground? :D
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Quoting Xyrus2000:


It's Dr. M's blog. You agreed to the terms and conditions when you sign up. The terms and conditions actually aren't all that much different from other popular websites (if you actually care to read the terms). He can post what he wants, when he wants.

Climate change and weather go hand in hand. A rather large body of scientific evidence and research show that this is so. Dr. M posts references to this research when blogging about the influences climate has on weather, and how our currently changing climate is affecting weather. If you want climate discussions based on belief and "truthiness" instead of scientific fact, go to Steven McIntyre's or Anthony Watts's sites.

Now, if you find scientific discussions on such matters not to be your cup of tea, don't like having your beliefs challenged, or if you suddenly bothered to read the terms and conditions and find them not to your liking, then by all means go somewhere else. But You were not misled. You were not duped. This is Dr. M's house. You either play by his rules or you get shown the door.
Good post Xyrus. I have been saying for a few years now ( although not often ) that the Earth,s climate getting warmer or "global warming" as it is called has every bit to do with tropical weather as tropical cyclones do. It in fact would be absurd not to be discussing relevant scientific research on the subject. jmo...
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Quoting RukusBoondocks:
There is a tiny spec of rain in the carribean. Will that turn into a TD?



NOP
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524. Skyepony (Mod)
Interesting little swirl off Martin & Indian River County, FL this morning..

Partial Cloudsat of 98W
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Quoting Cat5Hurricane250:
Salt Lake City:

We're on track to have the driest December on record and ski resorts are way below normal for snowfall. Plus tomorrow's high is forecasted to be near a record high.


And we are 600 miles south-southeast from you in Albuquerque and we have had almost record snowfalls at times and one of the colder Decembers in a long time. Go figure. I even heard Sandia Peak Ski area outside of Albuquerque has a 68 inch base. I cannot remember that happening in December and I have been here 34 years. Last year they hardly got the ski area open all season.
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Wow. Wunderground is predicting a low of 25 degrees for northern Hillsborough Co, Fl, while the NWS is forecasting a significantly more mild 37. I imagine the Wunderground forecast is based solely on model guidance and the NWS is using human forecasts. We'll see if it gets that cold.
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Quoting ILwthrfan:


It's 47 degrees here in Central Illinois and that's only at 7 am. , it also appears that I now am going to have to mow my yard again. The grass has made a comeback this winter. I have never seen that happen before.


45 here in Marlow, OK at 7:30 am. High temp supposed to reach into 70s tomorrow. I can't help thinking Father Sky wants to create some balance for Mother Earth and her flora and fauna after the past two icy-bad, blizzardy winters ('specially 09-10), the EF5 and two 190 mph F4s on May 24, and the exceptionally droughtful conditions this past summer. Grass was brown and crunched all summer and has been green and happy since early Sept. Birds around, too, that maybe would be elsewhere this time of year if not for the warmth.

Illinois has also had more than its share of extreme weather of late. Winter can wait a while.
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Quoting Seawall:


Yep, you are right. And, it's been that way, and getting worse all the time. The bad part - they don't even try to hide it. The really bad part - there are a lot of good and knowledgeable folks on here, but you have to wade through a lot to find them.

A lot of people have been forced out - good dependable people. People with a lot of weather knowledge, particularly tropical weather knowledge have left. Who could blame them? When I joined WU in 2001, it was a very informative site - later, this blog came along, and I became a paid member. Still am. Great info to be had until something happened - not sure what, but the tropical weather info gradually degraded; especially the past year or two. Masters changed the tone of the blog into one of an AGW argue fest.

Admins - can someone answer, why in the world would a website feel so threatened by another website that they would ban the website's name in emails? Sure - member's private emails are Proprietary here. (Oh wait, why are they private then? LOL) So you basically pay ten bucks a year to be monitored? Not to be able to speak freely? Say what you want in an email?

It appears Dr. Masters has lost touch with his blog. It's his name on the top.... but unfortunately he has allowed others to control his thoughts. And, attempt to control other people's thoughts by allowing some posts to be viewed, and some not. No rhyme, nor any reason to the attempted level of control here.

I'm just a "grunt" here - but I'm a paying grunt. I didn't pay to be a member of an AGW site. I paid because Masters falsely portrayed this blog as a Tropical Weather blog. That is no longer the case. I suppose WU doesn't come with a "Money Back" guarantee.

Since you can't place the name of a competing website in a private email here... I wonder if the sites name is banned in a post? Let's try. It's Weather Bunker. Weather Bunker.com. Land of the banned as Nea has declared it. Proud member of it. Nice people at www..com . Yeah, yeah, I know that's against the rules as well, to post a competing website. Oh well, just broke the rules. Sorry.

I hope this post stays up long enough for a few folks to read it, but most likely only the admins will see it, and it will be removed shortly. That's the way it works around here.


It's Dr. M's blog. You agreed to the terms and conditions when you sign up. The terms and conditions actually aren't all that much different from other popular websites (if you actually care to read the terms). He can post what he wants, when he wants.

Climate change and weather go hand in hand. A rather large body of scientific evidence and research show that this is so. Dr. M posts references to this research when blogging about the influences climate has on weather, and how our currently changing climate is affecting weather. If you want climate discussions based on belief and "truthiness" instead of scientific fact, go to Steven McIntyre's or Anthony Watts's sites.

Now, if you find scientific discussions on such matters not to be your cup of tea, don't like having your beliefs challenged, or if you suddenly bothered to read the terms and conditions and find them not to your liking, then by all means go somewhere else. But You were not misled. You were not duped. This is Dr. M's house. You either play by his rules or you get shown the door.
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Going to be really cold across Florida next week, and Alaska as well. But the western 2/3 of the nation is going to be above normal--and it'll be absolutely sweltering (relatively speaking) in the upper Great Plains (look at that deep red across the northern tier:

Uh-oh
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Quoting TampaSpin:

Hey Tampa hows it going? looking a little cold next week even in Tampa.
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Man, iz gon be cold Tuesday...GFS forecasting a high of about 34 for me, with a 20 knot windspeed. and looking at my wind chill chart, that would give a feels like temperature of about 23. COLD!!!!!
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Quoting SPLbeater:


well then...im glad that it was made, because i did that scenario last night and got 500k points LOL


Didn't know they still had it on there. I got interest in it after participating at the AMS Conference in Atlanta... I think like 5 years ago.
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