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Category 4 Kenneth the strongest East Pacific late-season hurricane on record
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:43 PM GMT on November 22, 2011 +20
Hurricane Kenneth has intensified into an impressive Category 4 storm with 145 mph winds in the Eastern Pacific. Kenneth is by far the strongest hurricane to appear so late in the season in the Eastern Pacific; the previous record was held by Hurricane Winnie of December 5, 1983, a Category 1 storm with 90 mph winds. There has not been an Atlantic hurricane as strong as Kenneth this late in the season, either; the latest of the seven November major hurricanes in the Atlantic was Hurricane Kate of November 21, 1985 (120 mph winds). Since 1949, here have been just three named storms that have formed in the Eastern Pacific after November 18. These three storms were an unnamed tropical storm on November 27, 1951; Tropical Storm Sharon on November 27, 1971; and Hurricane Winnie on December 5, 1983.

Kenneth is over 27°C waters and under light wind shear of 5 - 10 knots, so could conceivably intensify further. However, I expect the storm has peaked, since it's tough for a hurricane to get much stronger than Kenneth's current intensity with ocean temperatures so close to the 26.5°C hurricane formation threshold. Satellite loops show an impressive storm with a large eye, good symmetry, and plenty of upper-level outflow. The relative lack of spiral bands and large, thick eyewall may qualify Kenneth to be a rare breed of hurricanes known as "annular". Annular hurricanes are a subset of intense tropical cyclones that are significantly stronger, maintain their peak intensities longer, and weaken more slowly than average tropical cyclones. The latest SHIPS model output indicates that Kenneth has passed the initial screening step to be considered an annular hurricane. Only 4% of all hurricanes are annular hurricanes.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Hurricane Kenneth.

Unnamed tropical storm from September 2 brings the Atlantic's 2011 tally to 19
Re-analysis has shown that a tropical disturbance that formed between Bermuda and Nova Scotia on September 2 briefly attained tropical storm status, according to an article posted yesterday by Ken Kaye at SunSentinel.com, quoting NOAA's lead seasonal hurricane forecaster Gerry Bell. The addition of the unnamed tropical storm to the record books brings this year's tally of named storms to nineteen, tying 2011 with 2010, 1995, and 1887 as the 3rd busiest year for tropical storms. Only 2005 and 1933 had more named storms since record keeping began in 1851. An average season has just eleven named storms. Here's my blog entry from September 2 on the unnamed tropical storm:

A well-organized low pressure system with a surface circulation but limited heavy thunderstorm activity due to high wind shear is 450 miles south of Halifax, Canada. This disturbance, (94L), is headed northeast out to sea, and is being given a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by NHC. 94L is under a high 25 - 30 knots of wind shear, but this shear is expected to fall to the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, by Saturday morning. However, sea surface temperature will fall from 27°C today to 25°C Saturday morning underneath 94L, and the storm will have a very short window of time to get organized enough to get a name. At this point, it's really a subjective judgement call on whether or not 94L is already a tropical storm.

In addition, the Atlantic has gained one more hurricane for the year, as Nate was upgraded to a hurricane in post-season analysis. Nate hit Mexico's Bay of Campeche coast near Veracruz on September 11 as a weak tropical storm. The storm killed five people and caused minor damage near Veracruz. Nate brings this year's tally of hurricanes to seven, one hurricane above average.


Figure 2. True-color MODIS image of Tropical Storm Nate taken at 12:45 pm EDT Friday, September 9, 2011. At the time, Nate was a tropical storm with 50 mph winds. Image credit: NASA.

Invest 99L in the Atlantic moving over colder waters
In the Atlantic, Invest 99L, an extratropical storm in the middle Atlantic that is generating tropical storm-force winds, has moved over colder waters of 24°C and is looking less tropical than yesterday. The storm is moving northeastwards out to sea and over even colder waters, and is not a threat to any land areas. NHC is giving 99L a 10% chance of becoming a named subtropical storm.

Jeff Masters
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151. washingtonian115 10:10 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
Quoting SPLbeater:


lol....wait, red from laughter or somethin else? xD
Red from laughter.
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152. TropicalAnalystwx13 10:13 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
From simply amazing to....not so much. The eye continues to become obscured and eyewall temperatures are warming. Additionally, the cloud pattern of the hurricane is becoming increasingly disorganized.

Not so sure it will be a Category 4 at the next update...

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153. Seastep 10:19 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
Quoting hurricanejunky:
While you were sleeping...


Nothing exciting. Same old same old. Could say that about every year. It is great for testing the theory.



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154. SPLbeater 10:19 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
Quoting washingtonian115:
Red from laughter.


oh.....so you sent me that link, and then started laughing at me..i get it now lol. and i could care less is the amazing thing LOL
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155. Patrap 10:20 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
EP132011 - Major Hurricane KENNETH

Storm Relative 1km Geostationary Visible Imagery/Loop
2130 UTC

..click image for loop

ZOOM is available, click on moving gif.

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156. Patrap 10:21 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
That eye shrinks down 70 % in the Loop
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157. sunlinepr 10:24 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
Cassini Chronicles Life of Saturn's Giant Storm

ScienceDaily (Nov. 21, 2011) - New images and animated movies from NASA's Cassini spacecraft chronicle the birth and evolution of the colossal storm that ravaged the northern face of Saturn for nearly a year.



Link
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158. StormTracker2K 10:25 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
Ouch!

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159. StormTracker2K 10:29 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
GFS puts this ULL right over NOLA.

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160. StormTracker2K 10:32 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
This is something you would see in El-Nino year not La Nina.



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161. Some1Has2BtheRookie 10:34 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
Quoting Seastep:


Nothing exciting. Same old same old. Could say that about every year. It is great for testing the theory.





I agree. Since the onset of Industrial Revolution we have been seeing this rise in atmospheric CO2 levels. When do you want to start testing the theory that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?
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162. StormTracker2K 10:34 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
DAMM!



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163. StormTracker2K 10:37 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
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164. TropicalAnalystwx13 10:38 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
Quoting StormTracker2K:
DAMM!




Language.....
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165. Some1Has2BtheRookie 10:41 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
Quoting StormTracker2K:


I must say that you are using your colors (no. not crayons. COLORS) better now. ;-)

Looks like there is a lot of weather related activity ahead.
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166. SPLbeater 10:44 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
well i was getting ready to say im bored
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167. weatherh98 10:51 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
HOT SUMMER=COLD WINTER
COOL SUMMER=HOT WINTER

This summer was very hot there for we ought to have a colder winter
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168. SPLbeater 10:54 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
just like earlier:



this will get random thumbs up
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169. Patrap 10:58 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
Early to Rusty: .."DO NOT touch the TRIM"...
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170. SPLbeater 11:03 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    

feast your eyes, 99L. YES, it IS something
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171. skook 11:03 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
If anyone is interested in getting a free premium membership to wunderground, please visit my blog!


I guess even wunderground can't resist the black Friday madness.



Thanks for the great deal, and ad free weather!
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172. Grothar 11:20 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
Early to Rusty: .."DO NOT touch the TRIM"...


I never thought I would hear a Jarhead quote a squid!!!!!
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173. pottery 11:33 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
A little video taken by an friend, from yesterday.....
His p[lace was not too badly damaged, this time.

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174. Grothar 11:35 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
Quoting pottery:
A little video taken by an friend, from yesterday.....
His p[lace was not too badly damaged, this time.



Are you still getting a lot of rain down there?
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175. pottery 11:46 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
Quoting Grothar:


Are you still getting a lot of rain down there?

As one of the Newspapers said today, the floods yesterday were the result of "Brief, Persistent showers..."

Does that answer your question?
I'm still trying to make sense of it!

But yes, plenty rain, some showers have been very heavy. Fortunately, they have been pretty localised. But when it rains like this in the Valleys it can get serious.
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176. WxGeekVA 11:49 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
Quoting StormTracker2K:
DAMM!





It almost looks like a gigantic hurricane complete with eye over SE Alabama....

DOOM!
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177. Skyepony (Mod) 11:54 PM GMT on November 22, 2011    
Kenneth has been marginally annular all day..

Here's the last analysis..

## ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) EP132011 KENNETH 11/22/11 18 UTC ##
## PASSED SCREENING STEP, MIGHT BE ANNULAR, CALCULATE AHI FROM DISCRIMINANT ANALYSIS ##
## AHI= 1 (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##


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178. Grothar 12:01 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Quoting pottery:

As one of the Newspapers said today, the floods yesterday were the result of "Brief, Persistent showers..."

Does that answer your question?
I'm still trying to make sense of it!

But yes, plenty rain, some showers have been very heavy. Fortunately, they have been pretty localised. But when it rains like this in the Valleys it can get serious.


Makes perfect sense to me. Our weather reports says, "Partly rainy all day. Chance of rain near 100%
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179. TropicalAnalystwx13 12:11 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Going back over some of the ADT T#'s, I believe that Tropical Depression Ten was a tropical storm at one point. Going plainly off of ADT T#'s, the system was a 45 mph TS. We'll see what the NHC does....

011AUG26 140000 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.8 3.0 3.2 0.5T/hour OFF OFF -2.72 -11.61 SHEAR N/A 14.83 34.15 FCST
2011AUG26 141500 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.8 3.1 3.2 0.5T/hour OFF OFF -0.63 -11.04 SHEAR N/A 14.85 34.17 FCST
2011AUG26 143000 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.8 2.1 1.0 0.5T/hour OFF OFF -1.59 -11.55 SHEAR N/A 14.87 34.19 FCST
2011AUG26 144500 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.7 2.1 1.0 0.5T/hour ON OFF -2.23 -10.92 SHEAR N/A 14.88 34.22 FCST
2011AUG26 150000 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.7 2.2 1.0 0.5T/hour ON OFF -4.53 -10.23 SHEAR N/A 14.90 34.20 FCST
2011AUG26 151500 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.6 2.2 1.0 0.5T/hour ON OFF -11.80 -9.60 SHEAR N/A 14.92 34.22 FCST
2011AUG26 153000 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.6 2.2 1.0 0.5T/hour ON OFF -18.00 -9.73 SHEAR N/A 14.93 34.24 FCST
2011AUG26 154500 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.5 2.2 1.0 0.5T/hour ON OFF -14.18 -9.29 SHEAR N/A 14.95 34.26 FCST
2011AUG26 160000 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.5 2.3 1.0 0.5T/hour ON OFF -11.44 -9.10 SHEAR N/A 14.96 34.28 FCST
2011AUG26 161500 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.5 2.3 1.0 0.5T/hour ON OFF -9.83 -9.78 SHEAR N/A 14.98 34.30 FCST
2011AUG26 163000 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.4 2.3 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG -6.03 -9.53 SHEAR N/A 15.00 34.32 FCST
2011AUG26 164500 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.3 2.2 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG -8.26 -10.07 SHEAR N/A 15.01 34.34 FCST
2011AUG26 170000 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.3 2.2 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG -7.40 -9.91 SHEAR N/A 15.03 34.36 FCST
2011AUG26 171500 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.2 2.1 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG 1.10 -10.51 SHEAR N/A 15.04 34.38 FCST
2011AUG26 173000 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.1 2.1 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG 0.32 -10.44 SHEAR N/A 15.06 34.40 FCST
2011AUG26 174500 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.1 2.0 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG -3.04 -10.23 SHEAR N/A 15.08 34.42 FCST
2011AUG26 180000 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.1 2.0 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG -5.03 -9.96 SHEAR N/A 15.09 34.44 FCST
2011AUG26 181500 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.1 2.0 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG -8.78 -9.20 SHEAR N/A 15.11 34.46 FCST
2011AUG26 183000 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.1 1.9 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG -12.89 -8.34 SHEAR N/A 15.13 34.47 FCST
2011AUG26 184500 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.1 1.8 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG -10.54 -7.81 SHEAR N/A 15.14 34.49 FCST
2011AUG26 190000 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.0 1.8 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG -9.66 -7.16 SHEAR N/A 15.16 34.51 FCST
2011AUG26 191500 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 2.0 1.7 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG -7.40 -7.12 SHEAR N/A 15.18 34.53 FCST
2011AUG26 193000 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 1.9 1.6 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG -6.37 -7.15 SHEAR N/A 15.19 34.55 FCST
2011AUG26 194500 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 1.9 1.6 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG -6.20 -7.23 SHEAR N/A 15.21 34.57 FCST
2011AUG26 200000 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 1.8 1.6 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG -3.86 -6.83 SHEAR N/A 15.23 34.59 FCST
2011AUG26 203000 2.8 1002.0/ +0.0 / 41.0 1.8 1.6 1.0 0.5T/hour ON FLG -0.15 -5.68 SHEAR N/A 15.26 34.63 FCST
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180. Some1Has2BtheRookie 12:28 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Quoting Grothar:


Makes perfect sense to me. Our weather reports says, "Partly rainy all day. Chance of rain near 100%



I will tell you that we would Party in the rain all day even if it only rained for a part of the day! I will tell you it has been soooooo dry here ...... Oh, it is Partly and not Party. ........... never mind. ... sigh
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181. Xyrus2000 12:30 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Quoting Cotillion:


Regardless of whatever semantics you want to use to keep yourself happy, it is still an interesting story as it backs up from a similar one two years ago.

Makes you wonder about the security. Being done over once is embarrassing, but twice just seems negligent. Unless it was leaked on purpose.

The timing of the release certainly seems to be.


The emails were from the same crack, not a new one.
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182. Neapolitan 12:46 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Kenneth down to 115 knots (still Cat 4):

EP, 13, 2011112300, , BEST, 0, 125N, 1153W, 115, 949, HU, 64, NEQ, 35, 25, 20, 35, 1012, 180, 20, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, KENNETH, D,

...and 99L's pressure is down and winds are up a bit:

AL, 99, 2011112300, , BEST, 0, 313N, 447W, 40, 1004, LO, 34, NEQ, 220, 150, 0, 0,
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183. TropicalAnalystwx13 12:50 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Quoting Neapolitan:
EP, 13, 2011112300, , BEST, 0, 125N, 1153W, 115, 949, HU, 64, NEQ, 35, 25, 20, 35, 1012, 180, 20, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, KENNETH, D,

AL, 99, 2011112300, , BEST, 0, 313N, 447W, 40, 1004, LO, 34, NEQ, 220, 150, 0, 0,

Kenneth is definitely not a Category 4 hurricane any longer...Probably around 125 mph at this current time.

Oh well... :P
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184. Neapolitan 12:52 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Kenneth is definitely not a Category 4 hurricane any longer...Probably around 125 mph at this current time.

Oh well... :P

And it doesn't even look that strong. I'm sure they'll get the numbers right in the end...
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185. TropicalAnalystwx13 12:56 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Invest 99L may not be done after all. Winds have increased since the last update, and satellite imagery shows a more "Subtropical" look to it. It is frontal in nature right now, but don't be surprised if it breaks away. Additionally, all day long, SAB/TAFB have come back with "ST1.5".

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186. cyclonekid 1:01 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Invest 99L may not be done after all. Winds have increased since the last update, and satellite imagery shows a more "Subtropical" look to it. It is frontal in nature right now, but don't be surprised if it breaks away. Additionally, all day long, SAB/TAFB have come back with "ST1.5".



Maybe this is the situation the models were depicting.
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187. islander101010 1:05 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
thanks for cutting off fpl sound. i was sick of the ad saying how wonderful fpl takes care of the people they raised their prices and that is all that matters.
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188. cyclonekid 1:08 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    

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189. WxGeekVA 1:10 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
18Z GFS develops a weak subtropical/tropical storm from the tail end of the front about to go through the Northeast over the next few days, but drops it by hour 180.

Link
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190. SPLbeater 1:34 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Invest 99L may not be done after all. Winds have increased since the last update, and satellite imagery shows a more "Subtropical" look to it. It is frontal in nature right now, but don't be surprised if it breaks away. Additionally, all day long, SAB/TAFB have come back with "ST1.5".



see, thats what i was trying to tell yal! :D
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191. SPLbeater 1:36 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
can ANYBODY get me a link to blank tracking chart for Indian ocean and SW pacific? any help will be hugely appreciated
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192. cyclonekid 1:49 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Quoting SPLbeater:
can ANYBODY get me a link to blank tracking chart for Indian ocean and SW pacific? any help will be hugely appreciated


Indian Ocean
SW Pacific
SE pacific
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193. Thrawst 1:50 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Quoting hurricanehunter27:
Any thoughts?



Looks like a moderate tropical storm now. :P
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194. TropicalAnalystwx13 1:51 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
ADT T#'s range anywhere from 4.5 (90 mph) to 5.5 (120 mph).

Nothing supports Kenneth being a Category 4 hurricane.
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195. cyclonekid 1:53 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
ADT T#'s range anywhere from 4.5 (90 mph) to 5.5 (120 mph).

Nothing supports Kenneth being a Category 4 hurricane.


I'd take the middle and say 5.0 (~105mph)
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196. TropicalAnalystwx13 1:54 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Just a little while ago, SAB came back with a T# of 5.0, which is 105 mph. TAFB on the other hand, came out with a T# of 6.0, which is 135 mph. The NHC will probably go right down the middle, at 5.5, which is 120 mph.

Or, they could go with ATCF, and go with 135 mph.
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197. SPLbeater 1:54 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
i almost fell down the stairs
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198. TropicalAnalystwx13 1:56 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Quoting SPLbeater:
i almost fell down the stairs

lol....why?
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199. wunderweatherman123 1:56 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Just a little while ago, SAB came back with a T# of 5.0, which is 105 mph. TAFB on the other hand, came out with a T# of 6.0, which is 135 mph. The NHC will probably go right down the middle, at 5.5, which is 120 mph.

Or, they could go with ATCF, and go with 135 mph.
kenneth is not stronger than a cat 2. eyewall collapsing eye lost thats what happens when you hit just slightly cooler waters and wind shear. looks to me like a 90mph hurricane
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200. WeatherNerdPR 1:58 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    

Cat 4? Really? More like Cat 2 or 1.
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201. TropicalAnalystwx13 1:59 AM GMT on November 23, 2011    
Minimal Category 3 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson hurricane scale...at most.

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