Arctic sea ice bottoms out near all-time low; August was Earth's 4th - 8th warmest

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 6:11 PM GMT on September 17, 2011

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Arctic sea ice extent hit its minimum on September 9 this year, falling to its second lowest value since satellite measurements began in 1979, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center . More than one third (35%) of the Arctic sea ice was missing this summer, compared to the 1979 - 2000 average. This is an area about the size of the Mediterranean Sea. The 2011 sea ice minimum was very close to the all-time record low set in 2007; in fact, the University of Bremen rated the 2011 loss the greatest on record. For the fourth consecutive year, and fourth time in recorded history, ice-free navigation was possible in the Arctic along the coast of Canada (the Northwest Passage), and along the coast of Russia (the Northeast Passage.) Mariners have been attempting to sail these waters since 1497.

While the record low sea ice year of 2007 was marked by a very unusual 1-in-20 year combination of weather conditions that favored ice loss (including clearer skies, favorable wind patterns, and warm temperatures), 2011's weather patterns were much closer to average. The fact we pretty much tied the record for most sea ice loss this year despite this rather ordinary weather is a result of the fact that large amounts of thicker, multi-year ice has melted or been flushed out of the Arctic since 2007. As a result of the loss of this old, thick ice, both 2010 and now 2011 set new records for the lowest volume of sea ice in the Arctic, according the University of Washington PIOMAS model. Given the very thin ice now covering most of the Arctic, we can expect truly dramatic sea ice loss the next time 1-in-10 year or 1-in-20 year warmth and sunshine invades the Arctic. We are definitely on pace to see the Arctic virtually sea ice-free in summer by 2030, as predicted by several leading Arctic sea ice scientists. I expect we'll see more than half of the Arctic ice gone and the North Pole liquid instead of solid by the summer of 2020, and probably sooner.


Figure 1. Arctic sea ice extent in 2011 (blue line) compared to the record low year of 2007 (dashed green line) and average (thick grey line.) Image credit: National Snow and Ice Data Center .

When was the last time the Arctic was this ice-free?
We can be sure the Northwest Passage was never open for ice-free navigation--particularly ice-free navigation for multiple years in a row--between 1900 and 2000, as we have detailed ice edge records from ships (Walsh and Chapman, 2001). It is very unlikely the Passage was open between 1497 and 1900, since this spanned a cold period in the northern latitudes known as "The Little Ice Age". Ships periodically attempted the Passage and were foiled during this period, and the native Inuit people have no historical tales of the Passage being navigable at any time in the past.

The Northwest passage may have been open multiple years in a row for ice-free navigation at some period during the Medieval Warm Period, between 1000 and 1300 AD. A better candidate was the period 6,000 - 8,500 years ago, when the Earth's orbital variations brought more sunlight to the Arctic in summer than at present. Funder and Kjaer (2007) found extensive systems of wave generated beach ridges along the North Greenland coast that suggested the Arctic Ocean was ice-free in the summer for over 1,000 years during that period. Prior to that, the next likely time was during the last inter-glacial period, 120,000 years ago. Arctic temperatures then were 2 - 3°C higher than present-day temperatures, and sea levels were 4-6 meters higher.

However, it is possible that the recent summer low-ice conditions in the Arctic are unprecedented for the past 800,000 years, according to a 2011 press release by Project CLAMER, a European group dedicated to climate change and European marine ecosystem research. They found that a tiny species of plankton called Neodenticula seminae that went extinct in the North Atlantic 800,000 years ago has become a resident of the Atlantic again, having drifted from the Pacific through the Arctic Ocean thanks to dramatically reduced polar ice. The 1999 discovery represents "the first evidence of a trans-Arctic migration in modern times" related to plankton, according to the UK-based Sir Alister Hardy Foundation for Ocean Science, whose researchers warn that "such a geographical shift could transform the biodiversity and functioning of the Arctic and North Atlantic marine ecosystems."

It is possible we'll have a better idea of historical ice-free conditions in the Arctic in the next few years. A new technique that examines organic compounds left behind in Arctic sediments by diatoms that live in sea ice give hope that a detailed record of sea ice extent extending back to the end of the Ice Age 12,000 years ago may be possible (Belt et al., 2007). The researchers are studying sediments along the Northwest Passage in hopes of being able to determine when the Passage was open during the past 12,000 years.

References
Belt, S.T., G. Masse, S.J. Rowland, M. Poulin, C. Michel, and B. LeBlanc, "A novel chemical fossil of palaeo sea ice: IP25", Organic Geochemistry, Volume 38, Issue 1, January 2007, Pages 16-27.

Funder, S. and K.H. Kjaer, 2007, "A sea-ice free Arctic Ocean?", Geophys. Res. Abstr. 9 (2007), p. 07815.

Walsh, J.E and W.L.Chapman, 2001, "Twentieth-century sea ice variations from observational data", Annals of Glaciology, 33, Number 1, January 2001 , pp. 444-448.

August 2011: Earth's 4th - 8th warmest on record
August 2011 was the globe's 8th warmest August on record, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) National Climatic Data Center (NCDC). NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies rated August the 4th warmest on record. Land temperatures during August were the 2nd warmest on record, and ocean temperatures were the 12th warmest on record. Ocean temperatures in the Atlantic Ocean's Main Development Region (MDR) for hurricanes, from the coast of Africa to the coast of Central America between 10°N and 20°N latitude, were 0.8°C above average, the 4rd warmest August on record. Global satellite-measured temperatures for the lowest 8 km of the atmosphere were the 6th or 3rd warmest in the 34-year record, according to Remote Sensing Systems and the University of Alabama Huntsville (UAH). For more details on global extremes during August, see the details from weather historian Christopher C. Burt.


Figure 2. Departure of temperature from average for August 2011. Image credit: National Climatic Data Center (NCDC).

Maria hits Newfoundland
Hurricane Maria hit Newfoundland, Canada yesterday afternoon near 3:30 pm local time as a Category 1 hurricane with 75 mph winds. However, the hurricane's strongest winds were over water, and the storm brought very little in the way of strong winds or heavy rain to the island. Cape Race at the southeast tip of Newfoundland saw sustained winds of 41 mph, gusting to 54 mph at 3:30 pm Friday as the center of the storm passed. Winds in the capital of St. John's peaked at 37 mph, gusting to 46 mph, at 10:30 am local time. Maria's strike makes this Newfoundland's second consecutive year with a hurricane strike, something that has never occurred since hurricane record keeping began in 1851. Last year, Hurricane Igor killed one person on Newfoundland, and damage exceeded $100 million, making Igor the most damaging tropical cyclone in Newfoundland history.


Figure 3. Satellite image of Hurricane Maria taken at 12:15 pm EDT September 16, 2011. At the time, Maria was a Category 1 hurricane with 75 mph winds. Image credit: NOAA Environmental Visualization Lab.

Invest 97L
For the first day since August 18, we don't have a named storm in the Atlantic. However, we have a new area to watch. A tropical wave that moved off the coast of Africa Friday and is now 300 miles south of the Cape Verde Islands is moving west at 10 - 15 mph. The wave has developed a modest amount of heavy thunderstorm activity and spin, and has been designated Invest 97L by NHC. Wind shear as diagnosed by the SHIPS model is light, 5 - 10 knots, and is predicted to stay light to moderate through Tuesday morning. Ocean temperatures are 27.5°C, one degree above the threshold typically needed for a tropical storm to spin up. Water vapor satellite images show 97L is embedded in a moist environment.

Most of the models develop 97L into a tropical depression by Tuesday; NHC gave the disturbance a 20% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Monday in their 2 pm Tropical Weather Outlook. 97L should head west or west-northwest towards the Lesser Antilles over the next six days, and could arrive in the islands as early as Friday--though most of the models predict a later arrival. It is likely 97L will encounter the usual troubles storms this year have had with wind shear and dry air on the long trek across the Atlantic.

I'll have a new post on Monday, when I'll discuss the long-range hurricane outlook for the rest of September.

Jeff Masters

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U.S. Rare Earth Mine Resumes Active Mining


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I get a 404 error - Page not found

Never mind. A found a space, in the link, that should not be there.

Added - I read the article. China still controls 90% of the world's rare earth mining. China still has control, sooner or later.
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Sorry..left out the word makes.. China makes..produces more solar panels & wind turbines than any other country. China is winning (& beating America) in economic & cutting edge tecnology terms in producing panels & turbines.
Oh ok, China brings on line 1 new coal fired power plant a week. Hardly a leader in clean energy, but yeah, since US industry moved most of it manufacturing to China, China now makes a lot of stuff including Solar Panels. However currently Solar panels are not a cost effective way of producing energy. If the price were to drop to 15 cents per KW hour with a return on investment of 5 or 6 years then a lot of people would use solar to reduce their dependence on grid power.

I think that might happen in a few years, lots of good R&D is being done on solar.
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Quoting Skyepony:


Sorry..left out the word makes.. China makes..produces more solar panels & wind turbines than any other country. China is winning (& beating America) in economic & cutting edge tecnology terms in producing panels & turbines.


China controls the fate of the world on very many levels. Economics, manufacturing, jobs and even future wars.
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Quoting jpsb:


Really?




The report also states that china leads in the usage of coal and thus the consumption of coal in the country has doubled since 2000. Given the country's rapidly expanding economy and large domestic coal deposits, its demand for coal is projected to remain strong. In the reference case, coal use is projected to expand by 2% every year between 2005 and 2030, and coal's share of total world energy consumption is expected to reach 29% in 2030.



Sorry..left out the word makes.. China makes..produces more solar panels & wind turbines than any other country. China is winning (& beating America) in economic & cutting edge tecnology terms in producing panels & turbines.
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Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:
That pesky Upper Level Low is over us.


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
1006 PM AST SAT SEP 17 2011

.UPDATE...WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS AN UPPER LEVEL LOW SPINNING
OVER THE FORECAST AREA. THIS FEATURE IS SUPPORTING CLUSTERS OF
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS BETWEEN PUERTO RICO AND THE LESSER
ANTILLES. ANOTHER AREA OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ASSOCIATED
WITH A SURFACE TROUGH IS LOCATED EAST OF THE WINDWARD ISLANDS.
THIS ACTIVE AREA OF CONVECTION LIES UNDER THE DIFFLUENT SIDE OF
THE UPPER LOW.

THE LOW ALOFT IS FORECAST TO MOVE OFF TO THE NORTHWEST...TO BE
REPLACED BY A MID LEVEL HIGH EARLY NEXT WEEK. MEANWHILE...UNSETTLED
WEATHER CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL ACROSS THE ISLANDS ON SUNDAY AND
POSSIBLY MONDAY. THIS TRANSLATES TO INCREASED CHANCE FOR ORGANIZED
CONVECTION ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. SOME CHANGES WERE DONE TO THE
PREVIOUS FORECAST PACKAGE TO INCREASE THE POP`S IN FEW ZONES.

&&

.AVIATION...AN UPPER LEVEL LOW WILL CONTINUE TO CREATE CONDITIONS
FAVORABLE TO THE FORMATION OF SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE ATLANTIC WATERS NORTH OF PUERTO RICO...AND
AROUND THE U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS AND THE LEEWARD ISLANDS. OCNL MVFR
AND IFR CONDS ARE PSBL DRG TSRA. VFR CONDS ARE EXPECTED TO PREVAIL
AT TJSJ...TJPS...TJMZ AND TJBQ. MVFR PSBL AFT 18/16Z. LLVL WINDS
EAST 10 TO 15 KNOTS. AREAS OF MTN OBSCURATIONS ARE EXPECTED THRU
19/04Z ESPCLY AFT 18/16Z IN WRN PR.



After the deluge the Cibuco got this afternoon, I don't wanna see any rain tomorrow.
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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


We have a new wrinkle in anyone's ability to do this:

China tightens control over rare earth metals



Business Center Dec 27, 2010 2:10 am
U.S. Rare Earth Mine Resumes Active Mining


http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/214 938/us_rare_earth_mine_resumes_active_mining.html
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WeatherNerdPR, that pesky Upper Level Low is over us.


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
1006 PM AST SAT SEP 17 2011

.UPDATE...WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS AN UPPER LEVEL LOW SPINNING
OVER THE FORECAST AREA. THIS FEATURE IS SUPPORTING CLUSTERS OF
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS BETWEEN PUERTO RICO AND THE LESSER
ANTILLES. ANOTHER AREA OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ASSOCIATED
WITH A SURFACE TROUGH IS LOCATED EAST OF THE WINDWARD ISLANDS.
THIS ACTIVE AREA OF CONVECTION LIES UNDER THE DIFFLUENT SIDE OF
THE UPPER LOW.

THE LOW ALOFT IS FORECAST TO MOVE OFF TO THE NORTHWEST...TO BE
REPLACED BY A MID LEVEL HIGH EARLY NEXT WEEK. MEANWHILE...UNSETTLED
WEATHER CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL ACROSS THE ISLANDS ON SUNDAY AND
POSSIBLY MONDAY. THIS TRANSLATES TO INCREASED CHANCE FOR ORGANIZED
CONVECTION ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. SOME CHANGES WERE DONE TO THE
PREVIOUS FORECAST PACKAGE TO INCREASE THE POP`S IN FEW ZONES.

&&

.AVIATION...AN UPPER LEVEL LOW WILL CONTINUE TO CREATE CONDITIONS
FAVORABLE TO THE FORMATION OF SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE ATLANTIC WATERS NORTH OF PUERTO RICO...AND
AROUND THE U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS AND THE LEEWARD ISLANDS. OCNL MVFR
AND IFR CONDS ARE PSBL DRG TSRA. VFR CONDS ARE EXPECTED TO PREVAIL
AT TJSJ...TJPS...TJMZ AND TJBQ. MVFR PSBL AFT 18/16Z. LLVL WINDS
EAST 10 TO 15 KNOTS. AREAS OF MTN OBSCURATIONS ARE EXPECTED THRU
19/04Z ESPCLY AFT 18/16Z IN WRN PR.


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Quoting Skyepony:
He should really just create a company & roll out the cheap panels while fending off the power & oil companies litany of legal suits they slap at little solar companies.


We have a new wrinkle in anyone's ability to do this:

China tightens control over rare earth metals
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Quoting FrankZapper:
China is slowly becoming the new superpower. Capitalism without democracy may be the thing of the future. It don't work to well here anymore. All we think about is party politics. Sad. :(
Well I try to stay out of politics here, but I just wish we could try capitalism here, in stead of the corny corporatism we have now.
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FINALLY somebody posts. P.S. Taz: I had a dream with you in it last night. you were in it in a tropical storm and you intensified into a hyper-super-duper-mega-lavacane of doom and with it, 1000 mph winds and min pressure of 850mb and hit NOLA. you also on da offical nhc forecast map. must be azll the time on spending on this bloog.

...my god.
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Quoting interstatelover7165:
FINALLY somebody posts. P.S. Taz: I had a dream with you in it last night. you were in it in a tropical storm and you intensified into a hyper-super-duper-mega-lavacane of doom and with it, 1000 mph winds and min pressure of 850mb and hit NOLA. you also on da offical nhc forecast map. must be azll the time on spending on this bloog.




lol
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Quoting jpsb:


Really?




The report also states that china leads in the usage of coal and thus the consumption of coal in the country has doubled since 2000. Given the country's rapidly expanding economy and large domestic coal deposits, its demand for coal is projected to remain strong. In the reference case, coal use is projected to expand by 2% every year between 2005 and 2030, and coal's share of total world energy consumption is expected to reach 29% in 2030.

China is slowly becoming the new superpower. Capitalism without democracy may be the thing of the future. It don't work to well here anymore. All we think about is party politics. Sad. :(
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Quoting interstatelover7165:
FINALLY somebody posts. P.S. Taz: I had a dream with you in it last night. you were in it in a tropical storm and you intensified into a hyper-super-duper-mega-lavacane of doom and with it, 1000 mph winds and min pressure of 850mb and NOLA. you also on da offical nhc forecast map. must be azll the time on spending on this bloog.


...and I was just starting the peace and quiet of the deserted blogland weather!
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Quoting JLPR2:


As of now, no.

Most of the basin is in downward motion.




thats sure a lot of t-storms out for for downward motion
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Quoting Tazmanian:
do we have the MOJO back or some in we could a lot of t-storms out there its like evere thing wants too from all at the same time


As of now, no.

Most of the basin is in downward motion.
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Quoting Skyepony:that China is leading the way in renewable energy..


Really?




The report also states that china leads in the usage of coal and thus the consumption of coal in the country has doubled since 2000. Given the country's rapidly expanding economy and large domestic coal deposits, its demand for coal is projected to remain strong. In the reference case, coal use is projected to expand by 2% every year between 2005 and 2030, and coal's share of total world energy consumption is expected to reach 29% in 2030.

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Quoting interstatelover7165:
Greetings from Deserted-Blogland,sir.

lol Well, there isn't a storm.
Also, 哎!
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Quoting HuracanTaino:
As Dr. Master say this would be the year of wind shear and dry air, most of the storm strugle to gain some strengh... and when they did were pretty far north....
This year will keep them scratching their heads for a long time. The WCasters may never recover. :)
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do we have the MOJO back or some in we could a lot of t-storms out there its like evere thing wants too from all at the same time
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Bonsoir!
Greetings from Deserted-Blogland,sir.
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Quoting interstatelover7165:
Sloooooooooowwwwwwwwwww Blog Tonight,Huh? Anybody? Anybody Home? Hello?

Bonsoir!

buonasera!
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I think we could see 98L anytime now.
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Quoting JLPR2:


Should pick up a bit by Mid week.


Dont forget...it's also football season....and coming to a slow crawl for hurricane season....then, coming up, winter storms...and then those dreaded spring tornadoes......I just hope things will be better than last year..
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Quoting Tazmanian:




dont be puting words in too dr m mouth he would nevere say any thing like that


Unless he says so. You are right taz.
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Quoting Tazmanian:
per 98L could from be for 97L dos


That's Ophelia and Philippe right there, hope they don't pose a threat to the US.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
EGAD:



Additionally, the models are hinting at tropical development in the EPAC over the next few days...not from that, but the area of thunderstorms farther west. The EPAC may be able to squeeze out one more named storm.
RIP The EPAC 2011 Season. We will (maybe) (probably not) miss you.
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Fleet Weather Center Norfolk Tropical Feed
No Active Tropical Warnings in the Atlantic, Caribbean, or Gulf of Mexico
By Maritime.CDO@navy.mil (FWC-N CDO) from Fleet Weather Center Norfolk Virginia. Published on Sat, Sep 17, 2011.

As of Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:30:01 GMT
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439. Skyepony (Mod)
ASCAT missed everything from 97L to the tropical wave approaching the islands..
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per 98L could from be for 97L dos
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
POSS.T.C.F.A.
XXL/INV/XX
MARK
10.00N/36.00W


Invest 98L very soon.
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436. Skyepony (Mod)
Fresh Windsat of 97L
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POSS.T.C.F.A.
XXL/INV/XX
MARK
10.00N/36.00W
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Quoting HuracanTaino:
As Dr. Master say this would be the year of wind shear and dry air, most of the storm strugle to gain some strengh... and when they did were pretty far north....

They were pretty far north because a lot of them came off of frontal boundaries in the subtropics.
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433. Skyepony (Mod)
Watched most that last hour of Gore's Climate Reality thing post back there. Missed the other 23hrs & I like to see what all sides have to say. Gore looked like he'd talked himself hoarse in the last 24hrs & in his usual monotone fashion I'm left fighting to stay awake. The string of recent disasters to parade that have happened across the world kept it watchable... Some of these events like Memphis & India seem so long ago & they weren't.. little overwhelming to see them all added up at once like that. Exposed the denial machine, encouraged people to act for change & to change the types of energy they consume. Compared it to the time when people said enough is enough we can't throw raw sewage in the street anymore or the ocean..that atmosphere is part of the ecosystem & shouldn't be treated like an open sewer. Drove home the stop borrowing from China to fight for oil in unstable places & that China is leading the way in renewable energy..even Africa will soon be selling huge amounts of clean solar energy to Europe while we are left doing oil's bidding & left behind technologically & economically as the the other countries move forward to cleaner air. Said 8 1/2 million tuned in.

Hard to say what the impact will be..how much could people really digest before they fell asleep? Perhaps that's part of the overwhelm tactic. He should really just create a company & roll out the cheap panels while fending off the power & oil companies litany of legal suits they slap at little solar companies. He should do something to break the hold oil has from the inside. Legally there is real problems keeping solar from entering in a free economy here. Just the thought of him speaking angers so many people.. Just reading the review I'm sure is making someone out there want to throw a flaming quart of gas at something.. I've gone down a greener road (my Aug power bill was $82:), I had Chem for science majors, I did the experiment.. CO2 traps heat.. But watching Gore is near torturer, even for me.
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Quoting HuracanTaino:
As Dr. Master say this would be the year of wind shear and dry air, most of the storm strugle to gain some strengh... and when they did were pretty far north....




dont be puting words in too dr m mouth he would nevere say any thing like that
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As Dr. Master say this would be the year of wind shear and dry air, most of the storm strugle to gain some strengh... and when they did were pretty far north....
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Quoting WeatherNerdPR:

Just did. :D
REALLY fast.





cool all so they added a lot of new things too chorm 14
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Quoting Tazmanian:





you could upgrade too 14 it you have some it like 6 7 or 8 in stalled now

Just did. :D
REALLY fast.
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