Tropical Storms Nate, Maria have formed; 2011 season on the heels of 2005's numbers

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 11:25 PM GMT on September 07, 2011

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Tropical Storm Nate formed in the southern Gulf of Mexico this afternoon after Hurricane Hunters found a well-defined surface circulation in Invest 96L. Nate is the 14th named storm this year, and comes three days before the climatological half-way point of the Atlantic hurricane season, September 10. A typical hurricane season has just 10 - 11 named storms, so we've already had 35% more than a whole season's worth of storms before reaching the season's half-way point. At this rate, 2011 will see 28 named storms, equalling the all-time record set in 2005. Nate's formation date of September 7 puts 2011 in 2nd place for earliest date of arrival of the season's 14th storm. Only 2005 had an earlier formation date of the season's 14th named storm (September 6, when Hurricane Nate got named.) Third place is now held jointly by 1936 and 1933, which got their 14th storm of the season on September 10.

This afternoon's Hurricane Hunter mission into Invest 96L/Nate found maximum sustained winds of at least 45 mph, and minimum central pressure of 1003 mb. Wind shear in the region is low and is expected to remain low for the next 48 hours. Sea surface temperature is toasty in the Gulf at around 30°C (86°F) and more than ample to support intensification. Nate will bring heavy rains and potential flooding and mudslides to Mexico, and according to some weather models, also has the potential to be a U.S. landfall threat. Nate's surface circulation is apparent on satellite loops, although the thunderstorm activity in the storm is displaced from the center. It appears the strongest storms are to the southwest and northeast of the center. East of the storm, thunderstorms are churning associated with the stationary front that's draped across Florida, the Gulf of Mexico, and over the Yucatan Peninsula. This stationary front is left over from the cold front that pushed south through the central and eastern U.S. earlier this week, and created a focal point in the Gulf of Mexico for Tropical Storm Nate to form. It's notoriously difficult for weather models and forecasters to predict tropical cyclones that spin up in the Gulf of Mexico, but lead-time for both Nate and our previous Gulf cyclone, Lee, was generous.


Figure 1. Infrared satellite image of Tropical Storm Nate at 6:15pm EDT.

Forecast for Tropical Storm Nate
Given the favorable environment, in addition to a very warm pocket of sea surface waters in the central Gulf of Mexico, we expect that Nate will intensify modestly over the next few days. The National Hurricane Center forecasts that Nate will become the third hurricane of the season by Friday. The HWRF and ECMWF agree with this forecast—both of these models bring Nate to a category 2 hurricane by Saturday. The IVCN/ICON consensus models that the Hurricane Center relies on are more conservative, peaking at category 1 intensity. Nate's maximum potential intensity is heavily dependent on its track, which, according to the weather models, has been up in the air for the past few of days. Until this afternoon's run, the ECMWF has held true to its forecast that Nate will track north and make landfall anywhere from Louisiana to Florida. This afternoon, it backed off of that solution and is now forecasting a northern Mexico landfall. The GFS has consistently forecasted a track that lingers in the Bay of Campeche for a few days before ultimately making dive to the west into Mexico. Over the past few days the Canadian CMC model has been reluctant to develop Nate at all, but today is forecasting the system to track north into the Southeast U.S. states. Now that there is Hurricane Hunter data to ingest (as well as confirmed 45 mph surface wind speeds), we expect the models will come into better agreement on both track and intensity for Tropical Storm Nate.

Tropical Storm Maria

Tropical Depression 14 was named Tropical Storm Maria late this morning, as well. The storm is still pretty far east in the Atlantic, 1,200 miles east of the Leeward Islands, but is moving quickly to the west at 23 mph. According to the National Hurricane Center, Maria looks well-organized on satellite, "but not really." If you look closely at satellite loops (especially the loops that you can catch before the sun sets in that area), you'll see the surface circulation is located to the west of the strongest thunderstorm activity. Well-organized tropical cyclones will be vertically stacked in the atmosphere, with the strongest thunderstorms directly on top of the surface circulation. Maria's disjointed-ness is likely due to a pretty strong clip of wind shear (30 knots worth) in the area. This would usually be deadly for a tropical cyclone of Maria's strength, but since the storm is moving so quickly to the west, the Hurricane Center is forecasting the storm to remain somewhat intact for the next 5 days, although the forecast is for no intensification. Models are coming into better agreement on the track of this system. Prior to today, the ECMWF was forecasting a track south of Puerto Rico, but has since changed its mind and is now in agreement with many of the other models on a track skirting the northern Leeward Islands and missing the Greater Antilles to the north. Beyond this, there is quite a bit of uncertainty depending on steering winds in the Atlantic. It's still too early to guess which track the models will eventually converge on. Climatology favors a track that would miss land, with Dr. Bob Hart's track history pages suggesting Maria has a 22% chance of hitting Canada, 19% chance of hitting Bermuda, and an 11% chance of hitting North Carolina.

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Quoting pottery:

Why not?
Beats 'mentally deranged'.


I just didn't want sunline to insult sickos.
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Post 765.
Great Image, Sunline!
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Looks like 00z GFS still likes Mexico. However, it did shift a good bit north.
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AL, 14, 2011090800, , BEST, 0, 133N, 452W, 45, 1002, TS


did the center re from too 13N?
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Quoting PrivateIdaho:


Hey! Don't call Pott a sicko!

Why not?
Beats 'mentally deranged'.
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DAMN just got off and now we got Maria and Nate. WTF!I went to work seeing TD 14 and invest 96L. does anybody see that Nate may end up in LA. Cuz its moving slow like Lee. I hate slow storms i really do.
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Does post#607 not show the Member Since, Number of posts line on anyone else's screen? If it is absent, does anyone know how that is done? Thanks
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Quoting BahaHurican:
Wow... cant believe u left the Bahamas off this, with Bret, Emily and Irene....
He left the Bahamas, that were badly hit by a very strong Irene,and the Island or Puerto Rico with a direct hit of Cat 1, Irene with the eye Crossing the Island fron the SE,exiting through the north , and Emily soaking the island with torrential rains...
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Quoting PrivateIdaho:


I don't know how many people live there but they all have their lights on.....:^/
Just a flashlight in the woods compared to NY,NY and rest of eastern sprawl.
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120 hrs Nat shifted west on 00z GFS
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Quoting sunlinepr:


Watch Moore's documentary - Sicko



Hey! Don't call Pott a sicko!
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Quoting sunlinepr:


Watch Moore's documentary - Sicko
Moore directed this film about the American health care system, focusing particularly on the managed-care and pharmaceutical industries. At least four major pharmaceutical companies—Pfizer, Eli Lilly, AstraZeneca, and GlaxoSmithKline—ordered their employees not to grant any interviews to Moore.


It's not so much a "Health Care System" as an "Eat Bad and we will supply the needed drugs so that you can stay alive System".

It is happening all over the World.
Illness is a Zillion Dollar Industry.
There is no money in Health.
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Nat doesn't look too healthy tonight.
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Quoting pottery:

GASP!!
I had no idea that Canada was so Civilized....

Free HealthCare, huh?

:):))


People confuse them being civilized with them just being cold. They move so slowly due to the cold that they seem non-threatening which seems civilized.

Orca may bankrupt the healthcare system there all by him self.
;^)
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Quoting BDADUDE:
I dont understand the point of these things??


I actually find them very helpful. They make it really easy to see the magnitude of a course change - or the lack thereof - over a 24-hour period.
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90Hrs 00z GFS
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755. DFWjc
Gee, and here i thought this was a blog about weather...Get it together people...where's that ban hotline again...
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Quoting scooster67:


Really bad up there.

That's Bad Stuff all right.
A rough time there.
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Quoting Levi32:


Yeah there is one associated with her, but the low-level center is running out ahead of the rest of the circulation due to strong trade winds and inflow into Katia to the west. This is speed shear, caused by strong surface winds instead of strong upper-level winds.


I have never seen that phrase "speed shear" before...and the way you explained it makes perfect sense to me now...I learn something new here everyday,
Thanks again
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Quoting pottery:

GASP!!
I had no idea that Canada was so Civilized....

Free HealthCare, huh?

:):))


Watch Moore's documentary - Sicko

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Quoting PrivateIdaho:


(I think you are on to something!)

How can you accuse Taz of being on something too?

(oh! Sorry. I just read it again...)
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Trough is digging a bit deeper on this run and looks sharper too.
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748. DFWjc
Quoting help4u:


POOF!
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75 Hrs 00zGFS
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Quoting Skyepony:
Flooding in NE is occurring due to Lee remnants. Hersey, PA area has some really high creeks.


Really bad up there.
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Quoting Tazmanian:



is it a ufo


(I think you are on to something!)
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Quoting Ylee:
Maybe it's a recipe for Trollhouse Brownies....
Maybe your a Keebler ELf or maybe a Ferrie.
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Quoting wxobsvps:


I assure you, the troll is not up on me.
Saying you're one of the trolls alternate handles so responses to you count as points for the Troll?

one for you LoL
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Quoting Thunderpig75:


Would that be an herb or a spice?


lol yes lets call it that
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Quoting pcola57:


I agree with you Levi32,the LLC is slightly WSW..is there a anti-cyclone in place or one predicted to be soon?


Yeah there is one associated with her, but the low-level center is running out ahead of the rest of the circulation due to strong trade winds and inflow into Katia to the west. This is speed shear, caused by strong surface winds instead of strong upper-level winds.
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Quoting 7544:
ok track shifted west by 2 degrees so far


Which Storm?
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Quoting DFWjc:


I'll have to disagree with you..(sorry i couldn't help that :D)


take a number!...(lol)
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Quoting Skyepony:



It's still leaking or the last of the possible trapped in the remaining rigging came up. LSU fingerprinted it to Deepwater Horizon.


Thank You Skyepony,
Awareness counts.
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Quoting PrivateIdaho:


LOL! It's like WU triage in there! Since it's a Canadian blog all everyone thinks they are going to get free healthcare.;^)

GASP!!
I had no idea that Canada was so Civilized....

Free HealthCare, huh?

:):))
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Quoting BahaHurican:
Wow... cant believe u left the Bahamas off this, with Bret, Emily and Irene....
if anything your region has been impacted the most so far this season so far shows how much they pay attention or maybe just an over sight thats it you have been an over sight

lol
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Quoting sunlinepr:


Who said we are over populated? ;-)



I don't know how many people live there but they all have their lights on.....:^/
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Quoting help4u:
post 699, i am pro life too!Innonece ones need protection!


Thanks for the kind words help4u..but if you take a minute and give it some thought some thought we as humans all have a hand in this disaster by being end users of electricity made with petroleum products and of course the gas in our cars...i made a donation to my local wildlife chapter..maybe you could do the same..it might make the difference we need.

Quoting Levi32:


Maria's LLC is displaced WSW of the main area of convection, and is now fully exposed.


I agree with you Levi32,the LLC is slightly WSW..is there a anti-cyclone in place or one predicted to be soon?
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Quoting pcola57:


Thanks Skye,
Was hoping this would come up in the blog tonight...so sad to see all the havoc to marine life..i live down here and have seen the corruption first hand..man can be bought off but who will speak for the innocent ones?...when someone does bring it to the media's attention they write them off as radicals and not one word of their plight is seen..
rant over...
73 and 63%RH here in Myrtle Grove,P'Cola



It's still leaking or the last of the possible trapped in the remaining rigging came up. LSU fingerprinted it to Deepwater Horizon. The latest updates has NOAA checked the sheen & it had been freshly sprayed with dispersant. So much so it couldn't be cleaned up.
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Quoting pottery:

Yeah, Orca is a Stickler for Healthy Conditions.
He runs a very Health-Conscious blog. Everyone who goes in there gets sick.
Amazing....
But we have to excuse him, I guess.
He is Canadian after all, Eh?


LOL! It's like WU triage in there! Since it's a Canadian blog all everyone thinks they are going to get free healthcare.;^)
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727. DFWjc
Quoting PrivateIdaho:


some people won't take no for an answer.

(I don't know what we are talking about...)


I'll have to disagree with you..(sorry i couldn't help that :D)
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Maria could very well end up an open wave for a period of time.
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60 hours.

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Quoting weatherganny:











What is this???...Interesting



is it a ufo
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
yep some things you just can not say yes to


some people won't take no for an answer.

(I don't know what we are talking about...)
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Quoting Drakoen:
Looks like something is missing in the recipe.


Would that be an herb or a spice?
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