TD 13 intensifying; Katia may pass uncomfortably close to U.S.

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:28 PM GMT on September 02, 2011

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Tropical Depression Thirteen formed last night over the Northern Gulf of Mexico and is slowly intensifying, but isn't in a hurry to go anywhere. What TD 13 will do is dump torrential rains along the northern Gulf Coast over the next three or more days. So far, rain amounts along the coast have mostly been below one inch. At New Orleans Lakefront Airport, just 0.32" inches of rain had fallen from TD 13 as of 10 am CDT. Some coastal regions have received up to two inches, according to radar rainfall estimates. TD 13 is generating a large area of 30 - 35 mph winds over the Gulf of Mexico. At 7:20 am CDT, winds at the Mississippi Canyon 711 oil rig were southeast at 47 mph. This is above tropical storm force, but the wind instrument was 348 feet (106 m) above the ocean surface, and winds near the surface were probably considerably lower, near 35 mph. Latest surface wind observations from an Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft support leaving TD 13 as a tropical depression. Long range radar out of Mobile, Alabama shows heavy rain showers building along the northern Gulf Coast, but these rain showers are not well-organized into spiral bands. Strong upper-level winds out of the west-northwest are creating a moderate 10 - 20 knots of wind shear over TD 13, keeping the storm's heavy thunderstorms disorganized and pushed to the east side of the storm. However, latest satelllite loops show TD 13 is becoming increasingly organized, with a respectable spiral band forming on the southeast side, and an increase and areal coverage of heavy thunderstorm activity. This is very likely to be a tropical storm later today.


Figure 1. Radar-estimated rainfall from TD 13 from the New Orleans radar.


Figure 2. U.S. drought conditions on August 30. The rains from TD 13 have the potential to bring major drought relief to drought-stricken portions of the coast. Note how Eastern North Carolina is no longer in drought, thanks to the rains from Hurricane Irene. These rains also came close to putting out a persistent fire that had been burning in the Great Dismal Swamp near the Virginia/North Carolina border. Image Credit: U.S. Drought Monitor.

Forecast for TD 13
TD 13's large size, ill-formed circulation center, and the presence of dry air on its west side due to an upper-level trough of low pressure argue against rapid intensification of the storm for the next three days. Also tending to slow intensification will be the slow movement of the storm, which will allow cold water from the depths to rise to the surface, thanks to wind and wave action. Tropical cyclones strongly cool the water's surface when they pass over it, as seen in the time vs. depth chart of sea surface temperatures during Hurricane Irene's passage along the New Jersey coast (Figure 3.) However, the Gulf of Mexico has some very warm waters near TD 13 that extend to great depth (Figure 4), so the surface cooling imparted by TD 13 will be less than that seen for Hurricane Irene. As TD 13 moves closer to the coast, more and more of its circulation will be over land, which will also slow intensification. NHC's 11 am EDT wind probability forecast for TD 13 gave the storm a 23% chance of intensifying into a hurricane by Sunday. Assuming TD 13 does not attain hurricane strength, wind damage and storm surge damage will likely not be the main concern--fresh water flooding from heavy rains will be the most dangerous impact. Also of concern is the possibility of tornadoes. NOAA's Storm Prediction Center is currently not highlighting the Gulf Coast in their "slight risk" area for severe weather, due to the lack of enough solar heating to create instability. However, there will be plenty of wind shear in the lower part of the atmosphere that can potentially create spin in the coastal thunderstorms, and it is possible that as TD 13 intensifies, it may be able to generate several dozen tornadoes.

Coastal Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and the extreme western Panhandle of Florida will likely receive very heavy flooding rains that will intensify Saturday and peak on Sunday. These rains should be able to put out the stubborn marsh fire east of New Orleans that has brought several days of air quality alerts to the city, but may cause moderate to severe flooding problems in other areas. The latest rainfall forecast from NOAA Hydrological Prediction Center shows that a large area of 15+ inches of rain is expected over Southeast Louisiana and coastal Mississippi. The region is under moderate drought, so flooding problems will be delayed compared to what we'd normally expect from heavy rains of over a foot. Flash flood watches are posted for New Orleans and surrounding areas, and rainfall amounts of 1 - 3 inches per hour are possible in some of the heavier rain squalls. Ocean temperatures are near record warmth, 88°F (31°C), which will provide plenty of moisture for heavy rains, and plenty of energy to help TD 13 strengthen into a strong tropical storm. Steering currents will be weak in the Gulf this weekend and early next week, which will likely make the motion of TD 13 erratic at times.


Figure 3. EPA, in conjunction with Rutgers University and the NJ Department of Environmental Protection, has an Autonomous Underwater Vehicle (AUV, aka the Glider) deployed off the coast of NJ (since early August) continuously monitoring ocean temperature, density, salinity, sound velocity and dissolved oxygen at different depths. The AUV's path and data are displayed at the following website: http://marine.rutgers.edu/cool/auvs/index.php?did =221&view=imagery. The plot of temperature versus time above shows that in the weeks prior to the arrival of Irene, the ocean was heavily stratified, with warm waters of 24 - 26°C (75 - 79°F, red colors) extending from the surface to a depth of 10 - 15 meters. A sharp thermocline existed at a depth of about 15 meters, and ocean temperatures were colder than 14°C (57°F, dark blue colors) below the thermocline. The strong winds and high wave action of Hurricane Irene on August 28 - 29 stirred up cold water from the depths to the surface, cooling the surface waters to 17 - 19°C (63 - 67°F). In the days since the hurricane, surface waters have begun to warm again. Thanks go to Kevin Kubik, Deputy Director of the Division of Environmental Science and Assessment for EPA Region 2, for making me aware of this data.


Figure 4. The total amount of heat energy in the ocean available to fuel a tropical cyclone, in kilojoules per square centimeter of surface area. Tropical cyclones that move over ocean areas with TCHP values in excess of 70 - 90 kJ/cm^2 commonly undergo rapid intensification. Waters that are warm to a great depth have the highest TCHP, and the Loop Current that brings warm water northwards from the Caribbean to the Gulf of Mexico usually has the highest TCHP values in the Atlantic. Currently, we have an eddy that broke off from the Loop Current earlier this summer, now located a few hundred miles south of the Louisiana coast, that also has high TCHP values. Image Credit: NOAA/AOML.

Hurricane Katia
Hurricane Katia is continuing its long trek across the Atlantic Ocean today, and will not pose a danger to any land areas over the next five days. Katia is still struggling with dry air and moderate wind shear of 10 - 20 knots. Latest satellite loops show surface-based arc-shaped clouds racing to the southwest away from Katia's core, a sign that dry air is penetrating into Katia's thunderstorms and creating strong downdrafts that are robbing the storm of heat and moisture. Katia is over warm ocean waters of 28.5°C, and these waters will increase in temperature to 29°C over the next five days. Katia will pass well north of the region of cooler waters stirred up by the passage of Hurricane Irene last week.

The models are split on when the upper-level trough of low pressure bringing the wind shear to Katia will move away, and the storm may spend two more days battling wind shear and dry air before the upper-level trough pulls away to the north and allows Katia to intensify more readily. It is still unclear how much of a threat Katia may pose to the U.S., but it is becoming increasingly clear that Katia will pass uncomfortably close to the U.S. East Coast. The trough of low pressure currently steering Katia to the northwest will lift out early next week, and a ridge of high pressure is expected to build in, forcing Katia more to the west. This decreases the danger to Bermuda, but increases the danger to the U.S. A second trough of low pressure is expected to begin affecting Katia by the middle of next week, and will potentially recurve the storm out to sea before it hits the U.S. However, the models differ widely on the strength and timing of this trough. Meteorologist Grant Elliot of Australia's Bureau of Meteorology in Perth pointed out to me yesterday that the long-range forecast for Katia has more than the usual amount of uncertainty, due to the inability of the computer models to agree on what will happen to Tropical Storm Talas in the Western Pacific. Talas is expected to hit Japan early on Saturday as a strong tropical storm, then race northwestwards into the Bering Sea off the coast of Alaska. Talas is then expected to transition into a powerful extratropical storm in the waters south of Alaska. This storm will create a ripple effect downstream in the jet stream, all the way to North America, by early next week. The timing and amplitude of the trough of low pressure off the U.S. East Coast expected to potentially recurve Katia out to sea next week is highly dependent upon the strength of Tropical Storm Talas during its transition to an extratropical storm. The computer models are not very good at handling these sorts of transitions, leading to more than the usual amount of uncertainty in the long-range outlook for Katia. It will probably be another 2 - 3 days before the models will begin to converge on a solution for the long-term fate of Katia. Dr. Bob Hart's Historical Tropical Cyclone Probability web page suggests shows that tropical storms in Katia's current position have a 17% chance of hitting North Carolina, a 21% chance of hitting Canada, a 13% chance of hitting New England, and a 55% chance of never hitting land. One almost certain impact of Katia on the U.S. will be large waves. Long period swells from Katia will begin affecting the Bahamas on Sunday night, then reach the Southeast U.S. by Monday morning. By Tuesday morning, the entire U.S. East Coast will see high surf from Katia, and these waves will increase in size and power as the storm grows closer. Given the slow movement of Katia as it approaches the coast, plus its expected Category 1 to 3 strength as it approaches, the storm will probably cause extensive beach erosion and dangerous rip tides for many days.

94L
A well-organized low pressure system with a surface circulation but limited heavy thunderstorm activity due to high wind shear is 450 miles south of Halifax, Canada. This disturbance, (94L), is headed northeast out to sea, and is being given a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by NHC. 94L is under a high 25 - 30 knots of wind shear, but this shear is expected to fall to the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, by Saturday morning. However, sea surface temperature will fall from 27°C today to 25°C Saturday morning underneath 94L, and the storm will have a very short window of time to get organized enough to get a name. At this point, it's really a subjective judgement call on whether or not 94L is already a tropical storm.


Figure 5. A Portlight volunteer works to clear storm debris from Hurricane Irene in Hollywood, Maryland.

Portlight disaster relief effort in Maryland
Hurricane Irene heavily damaged the town of Hollywood, Maryland, when a tornado cut off electric power, water, and phone service. Portlight and Team Rubicon volunteers arrived before emergency personnel, after following up on a local tip. What they found was an isolated area whose plight was unknown to the larger community. Most residents were trapped at their homes by heavy debris. Portlight and Team Rubicon worked for two days to clear paths to each address, extract vehicles from debris, and cut down trees that constituted safety hazards. Portlight also instructed local residents how to operate and maintain chainsaws and safely clear debris. No other volunteer organizations or emergency personnel arrived at any time, and Portlight succeeded in meeting the specific needs of the underserved, unserved, and forgotten. Visit the Portlight blog to learn more; donations are always welcome.

I'll have a new post each morning over the coming holiday weekend; wunderground meteorologists Angela Fritz, Rob Carver, and Shaun Tanner will be handling the afternoon and evening posts. Have a great holiday weekend, everyone!

Jeff Masters

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Quoting Patrap:

I’m talking - pedicure on our toes, GOES-13?
Trying on all our clothes, clothes
RGB blowing up our phones, phones
Drak-toping, playing our favorite cds
Pulling up to the TD's
Trying to get a little bit tipsy

[CHORUS]
Don’t stop, make it pop
To the tune of? Remember some of aren't as hip as NOLA.
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1286. pcola57
Quoting Progster:
Lee getting close to 1000mb.

Link


Thanks for postin' that Bouy..Was Wonderin' about it..
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Okay. I just listened to Bob Breck. Never said anything about this system going to MS/Ala. He did say that there was a large cone where it could go east or west but did not say anything about N.O. Being in the clear. As for Labor day he stated that it was possible that it could be dry. Did not say anything about go ahead an continue with your plans.
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Quoting Patrap:
Some experts are saying TS Lee can spawn from 50-65 Tornadoes inland the next few days


At night, in heavy rain... that may be the nightmare.

At least you know the rain is coming... the tornadoes are sneaky.

That's always my fear when these things get close and then it gets dark.

A weather radio is your friend.
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Quoting Progster:
Lee getting close to 1000mb.

Link


Interesting, thanks for posting.
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Quoting AtHomeInTX:





:) Yeah. And if our laughing has an hysterical note to it, pay no mind. It's just the heat we'll be just fine!  Lol


LOL... :)
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1279. divdog
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Hey cloudburst, sorry to 'burst' your bubble.. but this is what Bob Breck said on TS Lee yesterday PM.

Just a quick update...NHC says TD 13 will become T.S. Lee during the day on Friday. Their track takes it to the LA. Coast during the day on Saturday keeping us on the wet side. Rainfall amounts could exceed 10-20 inches due to the slow movement of this system. Development will be slow because we currently have upper wind shear. That will change by the weekend and there is the potential this system could become a strong TS or weak hurricane before landfall. Will update after 10 PM.

Link
cloudburst = bad news
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I was really hoping to get a good soaking from Lee, but it's not going to happen. There is a wall up at the Texas/Louisiana border. As soon as those clouds hit it... rain is gone. I know other parts of the country are in a drought.. but nothing like Texas.

::Praying to the rain Gods ::: PLEASE!!!!::
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Well we've run the gambit here in the Houston Area over the last couple of days. Yesterday we were told we could get copious amounts of rain over the Holiday weekend to now we are on an elevated fire danger alert due to humidity under 30% and N-NE winds to 20mph.
Dab Nab it!
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Quoting washingaway:
VERY DRY MID-LEVEL AIR ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOW SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE ENTRAINED INTO THE SYSTEM.

ShamWow!

HA!
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Lee getting close to 1000mb.

Link
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Quoting notanothergoof:
oh brother time for the weather channel to stimulate the economy again all the way from south florida up to new england but who willl actually get this storm


All you got to do is to tune the Weahter Channel off if you don't like them and just don't buy anything. Other than that what others do in this country, if they feel like spending their money on hurricane stuff is their problem.
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The Great Texan Sham Wow strikes Lee

.....VERY DRY
MID-LEVEL AIR ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOW SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE
ENTRAINED INTO THE SYSTEM. THIS UNFAVORABLE CONDITION IS EXPECTED
TO INHIBIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF DEEP CONVECTION IN THE WESTERN
SEMICIRCLE FOR THE NEXT 12-36 HOURS...
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1272. beell
Quoting P451:


I wasn't trying to say it wasn't a tropical storm, I was trying to make sense of the line in their discussion which reads:





I also have brought up the possibility it may be a hybrid system and not purely tropical.


I think the satellite imagery and the wind observations (that we have) make them valid questions about the system.



I have no objection to the "hybrid" descriptor, P. A purely tropical entity stacking up underneath a continental "cold core" upper low. I guess we could call it a "bastardi system". Oops, sorry...meant b@st@rd.

; - )
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Hey cloudburst, sorry to 'burst' your bubble.. but this is what Bob Breck said on TS Lee yesterday PM.

Just a quick update...NHC says TD 13 will become T.S. Lee during the day on Friday. Their track takes it to the LA. Coast during the day on Saturday keeping us on the wet side. Rainfall amounts could exceed 10-20 inches due to the slow movement of this system. Development will be slow because we currently have upper wind shear. That will change by the weekend and there is the potential this system could become a strong TS or weak hurricane before landfall. Will update after 10 PM.

Link
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Quoting ackee:
when will recon investigate katia


Next low level flight is scheduled for 8PM EDT tonight:

FLIGHT FOUR - TEAL 76
A. 03/00Z,06Z
B. AFXXX 06HHA CYCLONE
C. 02/23Z
D. 28.5N 92.0W
E. 02/2320Z TO 03/06Z
F. SFC TO 15,000 FT


The high level flight from the Gulfstream IV is currently in the GOM.
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I have to say that I admire the UKMET model on Katia. It's such a rebel all by it's lonesome way to the south. Personally, I think it has some kind of grudge against Florida, because it was dead-set on sending Irene our way.

You keep on truckin' UKMET. Don't listen to those other models and follow your heart little buddy :)
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1267. pcola57
Quoting Patrap:
Some experts are saying TS Lee can spawn from 50-65 Tornadoes inland the next few days


WOW!! Sure Hope They Are Wrong On That!!!
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1266. robj144
Quoting cat6band:


I have no idea what "Bob" your referring to, but it's def not the weather man. If anything, "Bob" tends to over hype a storm. He's been solid for many years, and a true "New Orleanian". If you don't like him...turn the channel...you do have that right...


I don't know who he is exactly, but he said Bob Breck in the first sentence.
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Quoting TexasHurricane:


That is what I was doing the other day. ask At Home.... :)




:) Yeah. And if our laughing has an hysterical note to it, pay no mind. It's just the heat we'll be just fine!  Lol
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1264. Patrap
Some experts are saying TS Lee can spawn from 50-65 Tornadoes inland the next few days
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Katia starting to look a bit better...arc clouds arent coming out furiously as the was a few hours ago,and i beleive Katia has begun to intensify a little
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.. and yes Pat, I have an analog storm for this..

I always got one or two under my bag.
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Quoting cloudburst2011:



IM ALL FOR bob breck if he says LEE is going to miss and alabama THEN THAT LESSESN THE THREAT HERE AND I DONT HAVE TO CANCEL MY DINNER PLANS TONIGHT...BOB SAID WE MAY GET A FEW RAIN SHOWERS NOT TO PANIC THIS ISNT THAT BAD ....HIS EXACT WORDS..


I have no idea what "Bob" your referring to, but it's def not the weather man. If anything, "Bob" tends to over hype a storm. He's been solid for many years, and a true "New Orleanian". If you don't like him...turn the channel...you do have that right...
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Quoting pcola57:


Maybe you've been on here longer than the "September 9,2010" with 25 post to your credit.However,this has been going on for years and it finally came to an end and we here would prefer to leave it that way, but by all means post what you like when you like.People here can just ignore you,but maybe just maybe you might want to re-consider.Your account here Can be a temporary one.

Rain's let up and patch of blue up above here..90 and 80% RH..


Gosh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were a blog moderator. What exactly am I to consider reconsidering? Am I not allowed to defend like others here do constantly. I haven't done anything to warrant a "temporary account". Back off of me please...
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VERY DRY MID-LEVEL AIR ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOW SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE ENTRAINED INTO THE SYSTEM.

ShamWow!
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1257. pcola57
That's my worst fear with this one Pat
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Does have any thoughts on the wave that just came of africa?
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i'm sure they will have katia hitting florida at least for 1 day then change it to gergia then to north carolina
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Quoting KeyWestbeachcomber:
thanks Houston...I see the Link doohickey ...do I paste a RELEVENT link in there? YES I am sweatin over the rules of the road and don't want to say HELLO or anything friendly lol


Yes dear, just paste the link there and then you should be well on your way to offending others...lol
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1253. kap333
...and suddenly the computer models take Katia away from US East Coast. Can they make up their minds???

Quoting ILwthrfan:


Keep following her... She will likey recurve, but nothing is for sure. If the NHC ever posts advisories...found here...

Link

Then you would need to start making preparations. Until then you should always have a little kit of batteries, weather NOAA radio, distilled water, canned food ect. on stand by so those are things you already have off your checklist when the time does arrive if it ever does.
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Channel 12 - Beaumont,TX

Former Tropical Depression #13 has strengthened to Tropical Storm Lee. The storm is located about 200 miles southeast of Cameron, Louisiana near Latitude 27.4N...Longitude 91.5W. Lee is moving northwest at 2mph. Maximum sustained winds are 40 mph.

Lee is expected to turn north Saturday Morning and then to the northeast later in the day. Lee will make landfall Sunday Morning near Morgan City as a strong tropical storm with winds near 65mph.

Tropical Storm Warnings continue from Sabine Pass eastwards to Mississippi.
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1251. Patrap
372
WFUS54 KLIX 022044
TORLIX
LAC051-057-022130-
/O.NEW.KLIX.TO.W.0072.110902T2044Z-110902T2130Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
344 PM CDT FRI SEP 2 2011

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEW ORLEANS HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
EXTREME SOUTHEASTERN JEFFERSON PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA...
SOUTHEASTERN LAFOURCHE PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA...

* UNTIL 430 PM CDT

* AT 342 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 33 MILES
SOUTHEAST OF LEEVILLE...OR 33 MILES SOUTH OF PORT SULPHUR...MOVING
NORTHWEST AT 40 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO GRAND
ISLE.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

IF YOU ARE CAUGHT OUTSIDE...SEEK SHELTER IN A NEARBY REINFORCED
BUILDING. AS A LAST RESORT...SEEK SHELTER IN A CULVERT...DITCH OR LOW
SPOT AND COVER YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HANDS.

HEAVY RAINFALL MAY OBSCURE THIS TORNADO. TAKE COVER NOW! IF YOU WAIT
TO SEE OR HEAR IT COMING...IT MAY BE TOO LATE TO GET TO A SAFE PLACE.

THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE DURING A TORNADO IS UNDER A WORKBENCH OR OTHER
PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. SEEK SHELTER ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF THE
BUILDING IN AN INTERIOR HALLWAY OR ROOM SUCH AS A CLOSET. USE
BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO COVER YOUR BODY AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM
WINDOWS.
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Quoting ackee:
when will recon investigate katia


Doesn't look like tomorrow... nothing in the plan... maybe Sunday.
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Quoting HoustonTxGal:


LOL!! sure, just as long as it does not offend the Rules of the Road of god's sake! LOL
thanks Houston...I see the Link doohickey ...do I paste a RELEVENT link in there? YES I am sweatin over the rules of the road and don't want to say HELLO or anything friendly lol
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I'm sure lee will strenghthen, but that texas dry air sure is hampering that west side. quite a battle going on.
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tornado warning out here in jefferson parish. Said the tornado moving at 40 mph!!
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


We've only had two storms make landfall this season, a C1 and TS, with a third tropical system to make landfall early next week.

Yup, the CONUS shield is really holding strong..
Yep, apparently Hurricane Irene is a figment of some peoples imagination.
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Quoting HoustonTxGal:


Does everyone in here have family in Orange? LOL

Lol. Seems like a lot of them gravitate that way. :)
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LEE REMAINS TRAPPED IN A HIGH AMPLITUDE BLOCKING PATTERN THAT IS
FORECAST TO REMAIN INTACT FOR THE NEXT 24-36 HOURS AS A DEEP
MID/UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH OFF THE SOUTHEAST U.S. COAST AMPLIFIES AND
DIGS SOUTHWARD. BY 48 HOURS...THE NARROW RIDGE TO THE WEST OF LEE
THAT EXTENDS FROM DEEP SOUTH TEXAS NORTHEASTWARD TO MISSOURI IS
FORECAST BY ALL OF THE MODELS TO SLOWLY ERODE...WHICH SHOULD ALLOW
THE CYCLONE TO GRADUALLY GAIN LATITUDE AND MOVE TOWARD LOUISIANA


Nice - and I am in Chattanooga
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1243. ncstorm
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
If Katia follow this track, the storm will be very hard pressed to avoid the United States.



def uneasy here in wilmington with that map..I still say these hard rights being depicted by the models wont happen..a right turn yes but a sharp one? nope..
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Quoting Patrap:


SOLID ADVICE



Best advice he's posted all year actually. Admins should have swept this kid under the rug months ago.
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1240. WxLogic
000
WTNT42 KNHC 022051
TCDAT2

HURRICANE KATIA DISCUSSION NUMBER 19
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL122011
500 PM AST FRI SEP 02 2011

KATIA REMAINS A HURRICANE THIS AFTERNOON...BUT IS STRUGGLING WITH
MODERATE VERTICAL SHEAR. A 1718Z TRMM SATELLITE PASS INDICATED
THAT THE SURFACE CENTER IS TILTED SOUTHWARD FROM THE MID-LEVEL
CIRCULATION. DATA-T NUMBERS FROM BOTH TAFB AND SAB DECREASED
TO 3.5...THOUGH THE CURRENT INTENSITY NUMBERS REMAIN AT 4.0 ON THE
DVORAK SCALE. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS KEPT AT 65 KT...A MINIMAL
HURRICANE...THOUGH IT IS QUITE POSSIBLE THAT KATIA IS SLIGHTLY
WEAKER.

THE HURRICANE IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST AT ABOUT 10 KT...AS IT
IS BEING ADVECTED AROUND THE SOUTHWEST PERIPHERY OF A DEEP-LAYER
RIDGE. KATIA SHOULD MOVE TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST OR
NORTHWEST FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS AT ABOUT THE SAME RATE OF SPEED.
ALL OF THE RELIABLE GUIDANCE IS IN EXCELLENT AGREEMENT...WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF THE UKMET WHICH HAS A MUCH MORE EQUATORWARD SOLUTION
DUE TO A SHORT-WAVE TROUGH OFF OF THE U.S. EAST COAST LIFTING OUT
TO THE NORTHEAST MORE QUICKLY. THE TRACK FORECAST IS SHIFTED
SLIGHTLY TO THE LEFT COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY AND IS BASED
UPON THE CONSENSUS OF THE GLOBAL AND HURRICANE MODELS EXCEPT THE
UKMET MODEL. IT IS STILL TOO EARLY TO SAY WHETHER KATIA WILL
DIRECTLY IMPACT THE UNITED STATES.


THE HURRICANE FACES A RELATIVELY HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT WITH SOUTHWEST
VERTICAL SHEAR OF 15-20 KT LIKELY FOR THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. BEYOND
48 HOURS...THE SHEAR AS SHOWN IN THE GLOBAL MODELS IS ANTICIPATED
TO DECREASE SOME. HOWEVER...THE THERMODYNAMICS AT THAT TIME MAY
NOT BE IDEAL AS LOW HUMIDITIES AND A MORE STABLE ENVIRONMENT IS
ANTICIPATED. THE INTENSITY PREDICTION IS MOST SIMILAR TO A BLEND
OF THE SHIPS/LGEM/HWRF MODELS AS WELL AS THE NEW IV15 INTENSITY
CONSENSUS FROM THE HURRICANE FORECAST IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

THE TROPICAL-STORM WIND RADII WERE ADJUSTED OUTWARD SOME BASED UPON
A 1334Z ASCAT PASS.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 02/2100Z 18.4N 53.5W 65 KT 75 MPH
12H 03/0600Z 19.0N 54.5W 65 KT 75 MPH
24H 03/1800Z 19.9N 55.8W 70 KT 80 MPH
36H 04/0600Z 20.9N 57.1W 75 KT 85 MPH
48H 04/1800Z 21.9N 58.7W 80 KT 90 MPH
72H 05/1800Z 24.0N 62.0W 90 KT 105 MPH
96H 06/1800Z 26.0N 65.0W 95 KT 110 MPH
120H 07/1800Z 27.5N 68.0W 95 KT 110 MPH
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Quoting mcluvincane:
So, we are watching a minimal tropical storm which will bring some beneficial rain to many and a Hurricane that will go OTS. IMO, this is the way the rest of the season goes, which is very plausible being that this year reminds me so much of the past few where troughs and dry air rule the tropics. If you think about it, there really seems to be a "shield" for the CONUS. I know it won't last forever but i will enjoy it while it last.


We've only had two storms make landfall this season, a C1 and TS, with a third tropical system to make landfall early next week.

Yup, the CONUS shield is really holding strong..
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1238. ackee
when will recon investigate katia
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