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Hurricane Irene slides toward Bahamas; Strong earthquake rattles eastern U.S.
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 9:57 PM GMT on August 23, 2011 +23
Hurricane Irene is a category 1 on the Saffir Simpson scale as of 5pm EDT, with maximum sustained winds of 90 mph and a minimum central pressure of 976 mb. Irene is moving to the west-northwest at 9 mph, and continues to impact Hispaniola. Satellite imagery shows a strong rain band continuing to linger over the eastern Dominican Republic on the southeast side of Irene, but wind speeds appear to have decreased substantially in the country since this morning. Winds are gusting to around 50 mph in the Turks and Caicos Islands this afternoon. Wind shear is currently around 10-20 knots in the vicinity, which could delay intensification over the next 48 hours. The strongest winds and thunderstorm activity remain on the northwest side, and the eye that was visible on satellite earlier today has become obscured by new thunderstorm activity near the center of the hurricane. The most recent Hurricane Hunter mission found a minimum central pressure of 978 mb and a large wind field. In their 2pm EDT fix, the National Hurricane Center estimated that tropical storm-force winds extended 180 nautical miles from the center in the northeast quadrant of the hurricane. A NOAA Gulfstream plane (Gonzo) is currently flying Irene and providing dropsonde data, something that was critical in gaining model consensus yesterday. A NOAA P-3 (Kermit) is also on its way to the hurricane to provide dropsonde data, as well.


Figure 1. Satellite imagery of Hurricane Irene at 4:45pm EDT. Image credit: NOAA.

Track forecast for Hurricane Irene
Models are in better agreement on the track forecast for Irene today, although the GFDL and HWRF continue to be the western outliers. Both of these models are forecasting Irene to make landfall near the Outer Banks of North Carolina on an almost due north track. The rest of the global models continue to slide every so slightly east in their forecast track, with some not making landfall until the hurricane is as far north as Long Island. This afternoon, the ECMWF, which has been performing well this season, forecasts Irene to brush the Outer Banks before sliding up the east coast toward New York. The official track forecast from the National Hurricane Center is similar this afternoon. They're expecting Irene to take a more central track through the Bahamas over the next 48 hours and make contact with the Outer Banks on Saturday afternoon, with a second landfall in New Jersey on Sunday afternoon. Again, it's critical to note that the errors in the track forecast 4 and 5 days out are quite large, and also that the consensus in the models over the past couple of days has been to nudge the track eastward, which can be seen in this track graphic archive.

Intensity forecast for Hurricane Irene
Despite the slight weakening that happened today, Irene is still expected to reach major hurricane status (category 3+) in the next 36 hours as it moves away from the Greater Antilles and into warm "open" water. The models tend to agree on a maximum intensity of category 3, however, the GFDL is the upper outlier, and is suggesting a category 4 on Friday. The intensity forecast from the National Hurricane Center is a wind speed increase to 125 mph (category 3) by Thursday. Irene will surely be a very intense hurricane by the time it nears the Mid-Atlantic.

Magnitude 5.8 earthquake rattles eastern U.S.

A relatively large and shallow earthquake struck the Mid-Atlantic just before 2pm EDT this afternoon, and shaking was felt up and down the east coast and as far west as Ohio. According to the United States Geological Survey (USGS), the epicenter was located 5 miles southwest of Mineral, Virginia, and was 3.7 miles deep—a very shallow earthquake. Buildings were evacuated all over the Mid-Atlantic, including the Pentagon, the White House, and NCEP, but have since been reopened. The National Cathedral in Washington D.C. was apparently significantly damaged in the earthquake. National Mall monuments and memorials have closed for the afternoon. Light aftershocks have been reported by people in the region, and the USGS has reported at least one aftershock (a 2.8 in magnitude).


Figure 2. "Did you feel it?" map from the USGS. Shaking reports from today's earthquake can be submitted to the USGS here.

This earthquake appears to be the strongest to occur in Virginia since May 31, 1897, when a magnitude 6 (approximately) struck Giles County. Reportedly, shaking was felt from Georgia to Pennsylvania and west to Indiana and Kentucky, which is an area that covers approximately 725,000 square miles. It's likely that this quake will have a similar extent when all the reports come in.

Angela
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2201. drg0dOwnCountry 4:10 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Someone answer this: Did the STORM went through the HEBERT BOX?
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2202. ecflweatherfan 4:11 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Can someone please explain that mid or upper level low near the SE US coast, in post 2153. That is the inverted trof on the steering flow with an axis southward. It appears in the WV that it is pinching off and dropping to the SW over FL. With ridging filling in north of there in advance of the next S/W moving E in the Great Lakes region. What effect will that SE coastal trof have on the at least short term steering, and perhaps overall steering pattern? TIA
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2203. BaltimoreBrian 4:11 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
Someone answer this: Did the STORM went through the HERBERT BOX?

Yes.

However there are two Hebert Boxes. Leave the first r out.
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2204. Orcasystems 4:11 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
For those of you who don't know me... I don't even pretend to be a forecaster... all I do is show models and factual information. Please don't WUmail and ask me where its going.. I honestly have NFI.. I look at the NHC for their information... they are the pro's.
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2205. charlottefl 4:11 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
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2206. AegirsGal 4:11 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
Someone answer this: Did the STORM went through the HERBERT BOX?
went or go?
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2207. Orcasystems 4:11 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
Someone answer this: Did the STORM went through the HERBERT BOX?

Yes
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2208. Tazmanian 4:11 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
i still dont trust any mode runs right now has long it stays WNW



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2209. ProgressivePulse 4:12 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Irene got a wiff of the killer Mojito's to her SW.
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2210. BaltimoreBrian 4:12 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Hebert is pronounced AY-ber.
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2211. Elena85Vet 4:12 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting GerlindeEspinosa:
..Weather rapidly deteriorating in the southeastern Bahamas as
Hurricane Irene approaches...


summary of 1100 PM EDT...0300 UTC...information
-----------------------------------------------
location...21.3n 72.4w
about 410 mi...655 km se of Nassau
about 980 mi...1575 km SSE of Cape Hatteras North Carolina
maximum sustained winds...90 mph...150 km/h
present movement...WNW or 295 degrees at 9 mph...15 km/h
minimum central pressure...969 mb...28.61 inches


They are expecting potential 11 ft storm surges there.
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2212. Ryuujin 4:12 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting charlottefl:
haha thanks, been up too long today
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2213. victoriahurricane 4:12 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting redux:


manhattan is protected by hurricane walls. its called NJ, Staten Island, Brooklyn, and upper level westerlies.

brooklyn and staten island would be in trouble, god forbid, no doubt.

I just don't see 100 billion dollars worth of damage. what does it take to pump out the subway? the gravel and the glass could cause damage...but I don't think that much. another thing people don't seem to be considering is how massive the buildings are in new york. everything is about 5 stories tall, and the buildings abut each other. you might see some dilapidated structures fail, but I am not buying the hype.


5,000 skyscrapers x average of 1,000 windows = potential of 5,000,000 panes of glass being broken and once the glass is broken there is nothing stopping the winds from cleaning out the entire building. Structures likely wouldn't fall, you're correct, but for most buildings to lose their windows alone would be a billion dollar disaster. Flooding the subways would be another one entirely. As another poster already pointed out the 1992 flooding from a nor'easter caused between 1-2 billion dollars worth of damage. Any hurricane hitting near New York will be a billion dollar disaster and would be very dangerous period end of story.
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2214. charlottefl 4:13 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting Ryuujin:
haha thanks, been up too long today


It happens :)
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2215. emguy 4:13 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Did the models account for a cutoff low just off the South Carolina Coast moving ssw folks??? I'm trusting the models as best as I can, but in my 26 years of tracking the tropics, I'm officially confused looking at satellite. It's a very complicated pattern. First, notice the pattern is becoming more zonal and the next shortwave is passing over the cutoff off South Carolina. Mean time, the "final" trough is digging hardcore. In a place I did not expect, seems to be further west than I expected. Plowing into Nebraska and Kansas, as the Texas Ridge continues to retrograde westward. Chime in on it folks
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2216. NWHoustonMom 4:13 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
image of Isabel Sept 2003 (for comparison)



WIND GUSTS AND RAINFALL REPORTS

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STATE COLLEGE PA
1045 AM EDT FRI SEP 19 2003

...THIS IS AN UPDATED REPORT OF PEAK WIND GUSTS AND RAINFALL FROM
TROPICAL STORM ISABEL IN CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA...

DATA WAS TAKEN FROM AUTOMATED GAGES AT 10 AM.

LOCATION PEAK WIND/TIME LOWEST PRESSURE STORM RAINFALL
SPEED/DIRECTION /SEA LEVEL/

ALTOONA 43 MPH/040 AT 1229 AM 29.49 AT 404 AM 1.77

BRADFORD 38 MPH/090 AT 656 AM 29.56 AT 733 AM 0.28

CAPITAL CITY 58 MPH/130 AT 143 AM 29.62 AT 113 AM 0.86

CLEARFIELD 41 MPH/040 AT 204 AM 29.54 AT 526 AM 0.62

WILLIAMSPORT 52 MPH/110 AT 441 AM 29.62 AT 443 AM 0.25

JOHNSTOWN 37 MPH/060 AT 101 AM 29.46 AT 502 AM 1.47

MIDDLETOWN 60 MPH/120 AT 117 AM 29.62 AT 109 AM 1.32

SELINSGROVE 31 MPH/080 AT 143 AM /PRESSURE UNAVBL/ 0.38

YORK 44 MPH/120 AT 201 AM 29.61 AT 203 AM 1.43

DUBOIS 37 MPH/070 AT 106 AM 29.50 AT 654 AM 0.34

LANCASTER 53 MPH/120 AT 237 AM 29.66 AT 234 AM 1.13

STATE COLLEGE
(UNV) 38 MPH/110 AT 4 AM /PRESSURE UNAVBL/ 1.34

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2217. will40 4:13 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting sarahjola:
thanks!!


anytime sarah
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2218. redux 4:14 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting Squid28:


Most sewage systems have to have lift stations to overcome the changes in elevation across a city. No power=no lift stations, once they are full it starts backing up.

I forgot to throw in the whole sump pumps and basements issues


I still think you don't understand that all of the roads in new york city have a concrete base 1' with rebar. that's not going to fail right away.

do you really think major metropolitan areas don't have backup generators for their pump stations? nyc didn't have major problems when they had their blackout...
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2219. trHUrrIXC5MMX 4:14 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
since 2 days ago on every advisory the forecast track has been constantly shifted eastward, if this keeps going then NYC could be off he hook by making Irene a fish hurricane ... am I right???
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2220. dracko19 4:14 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting Orcasystems:
For those of you who don't know me... I don't even pretend to be a forecaster... all I do is show models and factual information. Please don't WUmail and ask me where its going.. I honestly have NFI.. I look at the NHC for their information... they are the pro's.


Orca!!! Long time! How ya been?
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2222. scCane 4:14 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    


Looks like that pesky western high has been moving west at a pretty steady rate today.
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2223. NCHurricane2009 4:14 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
I see the cut-off upper low off that has developed just off of NC in the WV....

Looks to retrograde southwestward and out of the way...

I'd be surprised if it affects the steering to the left 'cause it is a shallow upper low that won't affect the steering layer of Irene...if it gets close enough...may shear Irene a little...if far enough...it will enhance Irene's outlfow and help it to strengthen further...

Meanwhile...in honor of those who are riding Irene out in the Bahamas without power...just ate Chunky Soup STRAIGHT out of the can!
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2224. kylejourdan2006 4:14 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting BaltimoreBrian:
Upper level winds are not ideal for intensification for Irene. However with very warm water and further distance from Hispaniola I expect Irene will drop 20 mb or so from her present pressure into the high 940s.


Upper-level winds shouldn't have much effect on Irene or her itensification. The fact that she has formed an eye and is building a solid eyewall area will protect her core from any shear that's affecting her now...
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2226. drg0dOwnCountry 4:15 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Thank you all for answering! Hebert ;)
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2227. EastTexJake 4:15 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting drg0dOwnCountry:
Someone answer this: Did the STORM went through the HERBERT BOX?


Yes
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2228. BaltimoreBrian 4:15 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
charlottefl that's an excellent wind rose graphic!
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2229. Orcasystems 4:15 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting dracko19:


Orca!!! Long time! How ya been?


Puttering along... watching the weather... and hysteria and panic... same same
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2231. Alockwr21 4:16 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
What should we expect to see out of the models over the next 24 hours or so?? A continued trend east? Or is there a chance they swing back west a nudge?
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2232. Tazmanian 4:16 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
is it me or is the storm moveing W this a little it like the storm is off of it forcast points
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2233. victoriahurricane 4:16 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting Methurricanes:
yes, but mostly due to the really high cost of proporty the price would be inflated.


That's like saying the Mississippi River flooding event earlier this year was only because of how high the water was. Irregardless of what property is valued at, a billion dollar disaster costs a billion dollars.
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2234. Tazmanian 4:16 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting Orcasystems:


No, but you are an Idiot




LOL LOL LOL
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2235. BahaHurican 4:17 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:
I see the cut-off upper low off that has developed just off of NC in the WV....

Looks to retrograde southwestward and out of the way...

I'd be surprised if it affects the steering to the left 'cause it is a shallow upper low that won't affect the steering layer of Irene...if it gets close enough...may shear Irene a little...if far enough...it will enhance Irene's outlfow and help it to strengthen further...

Meanwhile...in honor of those who are riding Irene out in the Bahamas without power...just ate Chunky Soup STRAIGHT out of the can!
Geez... too lazy to pour it into a microwaveable dish... lol Bet u had a pop top can, too... lol .lol...

BTW, your soup should be in honor of TCI riders-out, so far at least....
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2236. Bluestorm5 4:18 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Not wishcasting, but I agree that models are too far east by 50-100 miles. This storm kept going the same direction since it left Puerto Rico.
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2237. owntime 4:18 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting NWHoustonMom:
image of Isabel Sept 2003 (for comparison)



WIND GUSTS AND RAINFALL REPORTS

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STATE COLLEGE PA
1045 AM EDT FRI SEP 19 2003

...THIS IS AN UPDATED REPORT OF PEAK WIND GUSTS AND RAINFALL FROM
TROPICAL STORM ISABEL IN CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA...

DATA WAS TAKEN FROM AUTOMATED GAGES AT 10 AM.

LOCATION PEAK WIND/TIME LOWEST PRESSURE STORM RAINFALL
SPEED/DIRECTION /SEA LEVEL/

ALTOONA 43 MPH/040 AT 1229 AM 29.49 AT 404 AM 1.77

BRADFORD 38 MPH/090 AT 656 AM 29.56 AT 733 AM 0.28

CAPITAL CITY 58 MPH/130 AT 143 AM 29.62 AT 113 AM 0.86

CLEARFIELD 41 MPH/040 AT 204 AM 29.54 AT 526 AM 0.62

WILLIAMSPORT 52 MPH/110 AT 441 AM 29.62 AT 443 AM 0.25

JOHNSTOWN 37 MPH/060 AT 101 AM 29.46 AT 502 AM 1.47

MIDDLETOWN 60 MPH/120 AT 117 AM 29.62 AT 109 AM 1.32

SELINSGROVE 31 MPH/080 AT 143 AM /PRESSURE UNAVBL/ 0.38

YORK 44 MPH/120 AT 201 AM 29.61 AT 203 AM 1.43

DUBOIS 37 MPH/070 AT 106 AM 29.50 AT 654 AM 0.34

LANCASTER 53 MPH/120 AT 237 AM 29.66 AT 234 AM 1.13

STATE COLLEGE
(UNV) 38 MPH/110 AT 4 AM /PRESSURE UNAVBL/ 1.34



Not funny.
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2238. trHUrrIXC5MMX 4:18 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting Orcasystems:


No, but you are an Idiot


ok, smarty pants, do you come from the future??? know it all!
I'll laugh at you if it happens...
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2239. charlottefl 4:18 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting BaltimoreBrian:
charlottefl that's an excellent wind rose graphic!


Yeah used it before, comes in handy this time of year...
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2240. rescueguy 4:18 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Correct if I am wrong but Hugo had a cutoff low that moved sw out of ga and it moved nw into gap until the ridge built in and forced it to the coast.
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2241. stillwaiting 4:19 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
im buying what the latest gfs runs selling,looks like its locked in,most probable path imo,and offshore everyone!!
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2242. Tazmanian 4:19 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
is the HH comeing a round for one more center pass?
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2243. BahaHurican 4:19 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Hmmm... reminds me I need to hook my laptop up to my battery backup...
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2244. traumaboyy 4:19 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Good morning Night Shift!! Coffee and Donuts are ready??
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2245. BaltimoreBrian 4:19 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting kylejourdan2006:


Upper-level winds shouldn't have much effect on Irene or her itensification. The fact that she has formed an eye and is building a solid eyewall area will protect her core from any shear that's affecting her now...


That's not how shear works. There will be 10-15 kts of shear from the SW and W and that will impede outflow on the west side. I'm not downcasting. I just don't see Irene getting much below 28". Not like Earl.

I wouldn't be shocked if Irene got down to 945 mb and made Cat 4 for an advisory or two, but I think she will probably peak at an upper Cat 3.
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2246. dracko19 4:19 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting trHUrrIXC5MMX:
since 2 days ago on every advisory the forecast track has been constantly shifted eastward, if this keeps going then NYC could be off he hook by making Irene a fish hurricane ... am I right???


No model I looked at makes this a fish hurricane. They all say its going to land somewhere in the US East Coast, but like 5-6 days from now. Lots can change before then. There really aren't any powerful fronts coming through the US that would carry it away and over ride the ATL ridge though and that Ridge looks stronger and stronger on every run. This surely will impact anyone on the East Coast from NC to Maine in some fashion, even if it doesn't landfall right on top of you, you're going to see very high winds and rain up and down the East Coast no matter what at this point. Major Hurricanes can have HUGE wind fields with hurricane force winds extending for 50-100 miles (or more!).
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2247. IFuSAYso 4:19 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:
I see the cut-off upper low off that has developed just off of NC in the WV....

Looks to retrograde southwestward and out of the way...

I'd be surprised if it affects the steering to the left 'cause it is a shallow upper low that won't affect the steering layer of Irene...if it gets close enough...may shear Irene a little...if far enough...it will enhance Irene's outlfow and help it to strengthen further...

Meanwhile...in honor of those who are riding Irene out in the Bahamas without power...just ate Chunky Soup STRAIGHT out of the can!


during Katrina deployment, I ate allot of soup (healthy request has less coagulated fat) and lived in a ten for nearly 5 months in the Gulfport area.
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2248. ProgressivePulse 4:20 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Irene doesn't pull up soon she'll make a 2nd landfall on Great Inagua overnight.



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2249. BaltimoreBrian 4:20 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting charlottefl:


Yeah used it before, comes in handy this time of year...


I'm stealing it :)
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2250. stillwaiting 4:20 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
edit,just hit cape cod ,ouch!!!
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2251. NCHurricane2009 4:20 AM GMT on August 24, 2011    
Quoting scCane:


Looks like that pesky western high has been moving west at a pretty steady rate today.


Don't think so....see post 2133....
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