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Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


I never understood why they call it an accident...

I noticed that too. Interesting thing, go to Google translate and look and LISTEN to the translations of accident and incident. They sound very similar in French. Wonder if they have similar meanings in French!

Quoting beell:


Extremely localized increases in temperature have been noted very near erupting volcanoes.

Yes i'm sure due to the fact most things volcanos eject are thousands of degrees. Volcano's still went off when we were in what was called "snowball earth" That's how the planet recovered by creating an atmosphere.

Quoting PcolaDan:


I noticed that too. Interesting thing, go to Google translate and look and LISTEN to the translations of accident and incident. They sound very similar in French. Wonder if they have similar meanings in French!

True looked at etymology, and it states that it used to mean "an unexpected happening or event" so that probably why.

Quoting barrygilmour:

ash cloud circling the globe

Kind of amazing the effect it's having after so much time and distance.

Quoting PcolaDan:


Kind of amazing the effect it's having after so much time and distance.

plus blocks the sun just that tad bit, reducing incoming radiation.

Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


It was caused by the 5.7m earthquake that hit the area.

A chicken and egg thing. Did the earthquake cause a crack to allow magma and gases to move, or did the magma and gases push through a weak area creating a crack which ultimately ended in an eruption?

After a year of unprecedented flooding, fires, tornadoes and droughts, it is reassuring somehow that a volcano that has not erupted in 11,000 plus years would belch its contents into the atmosphere in perhaps Mother Earth's attempt to cool the planet.

Quoting PcolaDan:


A chicken and egg thing. Did the earthquake cause a crack to allow magma and gases to move, or did the magma and gases push through a weak area creating a crack which ultimately ended in an eruption?

Its pretty clear I think, a 5.0m earthquake hit further south at 19:20utc causing the stress that caused the 5.7m earthquake that hit at 21:03utc and allowing the volcano to blow.

Hummm?
If I were to summarize this blog after a quick perusing?
I think I would be banned.
But WT Heck.
Here goes
Why would the media ignore an eruption in Africa?
Answer#1:
Remember Sudan?
Answer #2: Possible eruption watch ongoing in New York.
Twitter Snicker.:O(

Armageddon possibilities.
Alignment of planets is preposterous.
But rise in sea levels, melting of Ice caps,and runoff from deforestation is more than a logical cause of Earthquakes and resulting volcanic eruptions.

Tropics watch is as usual.
The models may be predicting ETC....
But "it" wont happen until it happens ,tropically speaking.

Gosh I love this place.
If I have offended any here this evening.
Its all in fun and keep up the good work.
I would not have it any other way.
Questions,Answers,Speculations,Theories,Humor.
The best of WU today.
The worst of WU today.
To WU or not to WU?

There is no question.
WU on Folks and be happy.

Spathy just having fun.


Warm Summer rain wishes to all those that are drought stricken.

Quoting Chicklit:
What is also interesting is this volcano has not erupted since the Holocene period. When there was, by the way, a dramatic rise in global temperatures. The current eruption of Nabro may be an event which occurs in response to a warming planet. Additionally, the term "trigger" may be appropriate to use in the situation that a warming planet would cause Nabro to erupt.

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p.s. those of you who are familiar with WUground know I am neither a scientist nor a climatologist or meteorologist and have only limited understanding of the technical side of these disciplines. I am merely stating the last time this volcano erupted was during this period, when there was a sharp rise in the global temperatures; you are of course free to draw your own conclusions. But this I found interesting.

Chick, I guess it would be called a correlation... and an interesting one it is at that... very interesting indeed the idea that vulcanic eruptions might be responding to subtle temperature gradients in overall earth temperature...

Quoting PcolaDan:


I noticed that too. Interesting thing, go to Google translate and look and LISTEN to the translations of accident and incident. They sound very similar in French. Wonder if they have similar meanings in French!

Was about to say there is probably some similarity in meaning in French.... like in spanish "aventura" doesn't translate to "adventure" or "embarazada" doesn't mean "embarrassed".... words looking similar don't automatically mean the same thing.

Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


It was caused by the 5.7m earthquake that hit the area.

the 5.7 was the eruption at four points or areas within the crater there is no know history of this volcano eruption type and this may only be a lead time to a more violent event yet to come this could be anything we simply do not know as always we wait watch see

FAQs - Earthquake Myths
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Q: Do earthquakes cause volcanoes?
A:

No, there are different earth processes responsible for volcanoes. Earthquakes may occur in an area before, during, and after a volcanic eruption, but they are the result of the active forces connected with the eruption, and not the cause of volcanic activity.
USGS Earthquake Myths

Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


Its pretty clear I think, a 5.0m earthquake hit further south at 19:20utc causing the stress that caused the 5.7m earthquake that hit at 21:03utc and allowing the volcano to blow.

The variables are far too complex to attribute a simple causality.

Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


Its pretty clear I think, a 5.0m earthquake hit further south at 19:20utc causing the stress that caused the 5.7m earthquake that hit at 21:03utc and allowing the volcano to blow.

I disagree. While my chicken egg thing was meant to show the common argument, most earthquakes associated with volcano are the result of the forces connected with the eruption, but do not actually cause the eruption.

hey, u science guys out there heckling Chicklet.... nobody said run out and get a grant. It's an interesting speculation... with enough of a scientific "sound" to it to make quite good science fiction with one or two adjustments.... hmmm.....

Quoting Levi32:

I wonder, if by the end of the month, TCHP will rival, or even surpass that of last years.

That would not be good thing with potential development in that time frame.

Quoting beell:
FAQs - Earthquake Myths
« Previous FAQ | All FAQ's | Next FAQ »

Q: Do earthquakes cause volcanoes?
A:

No, there are different earth processes responsible for volcanoes. Earthquakes may occur in an area before, during, and after a volcanic eruption, but they are the result of the active forces connected with the eruption, and not the cause of volcanic activity.
USGS Earthquake Myths

They can, they just mean an earthquake isn't going to open a hole and lava come out of it. The earthquake can weaken the land which is holding down the lava dome which is pushing up on it. The earthquake weakens it, and allows the pressure of the magma to overwhelm the land on top and start an eruption.

I am reminded of Plato's Cave.
Anyway, goodnight all.
No hard feelings.
Love the World.

Glad that some of the Floridian folk are receiving spotted showers. If you aren't one of the lucky ones, just act like a Texan and give up on rain altogether. 103 all week and no rain in sight.

Quoting Chicklit:
I am reminded of Plato's Cave.
Anyway, goodnight all.
No hard feelings.
Love the World.

of course not, night chicklit

Question: would volcanicism in a snow-bound earth be more likely to increase or decrease temperatures [I'm thinking globally, not locally]?

I'm not nitpicking; I'm now curious about the impacts. I understand the potential for cooling from a certain amount / extent of volcanic activity in a particular location. Now Chicklet's speculation has made me wonder about the converse.

Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


They can, they just mean an earthquake isn't going to open a hole and lava come out of it. The earthquake can weaken the land which is holding down the lava dome which is pushing up on it. The earthquake weakens it, and allows the pressure of the magma to overwhelm the land on top and start an eruption.

Gee, sounds kinda like the chicken/egg thing.

Quoting BahaHurican:
Question: would volcanicism in a snow-bound earth be more likely to increase or decrease temperatures [I'm thinking globally, not locally]?

I'm not nitpicking; I'm now curious about the impacts. I understand the potential for cooling from a certain amount / extent of volcanic activity in a particular location. Now Chicklet's speculation has made me wonder about the converse.

Well they know that volcano's were what allowed the earth to create another atmosphere during Snowball Earth.

Edit :Or allowed the greenhouse effect to start again. Not create another atmosphere. misworded.

Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:

of course not, night chicklit

night VA.

Geesh tough crowd tonight.

Quoting spathy:
Geesh tough crowd tonight.

Sorry Spathy, we are in serious GW talk mode :p

I think the earthquake / volcano thing will always be conflated to a certain extent because they are both the outcome of plate techtonics. Well it appears that way to me.... both occur at plate boundaries, and the processes that relate to the movement of plates seem to result in earthquakes, vulcanism, or both...

Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


Sorry Spathy, we are in serious GW talk mode :p

I know :O)
Just looked like an icebreaker was needed.
Thanks for acknowledging my dry humor.

Quoting Chicklit:
After a year of unprecedented flooding, fires, tornadoes and droughts, it is reassuring somehow that a volcano that has not erupted in 11,000 plus years would belch its contents into the atmosphere in perhaps Mother Earth's attempt to cool the planet.

Evening... nice post. You're a good writer.

Quoting spathy:


I know :O)
Just looked like an icebreaker was needed.
Thanks for acknowledging my dry humor.

Always my pleasure. having a good evening?

Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


They can, they just mean an earthquake isn't going to open a hole and lava come out of it. The earthquake can weaken the land which is holding down the lava dome which is pushing up on it. The earthquake weakens it, and allows the pressure of the magma to overwhelm the land on top and start an eruption.

Lava domes generally erupt because of buildup of gases which eventually break through the crust. The seismicity involved is normally a result of the gases and liquid moving through venting chambers.

Quoting beell:


Gee, sounds kinda like the chicken/egg thing.

Watch it. Some of us remember that chicken and that egg! ;-)

So potentially, at least, a theory could be posited whereby vulcanism acts as a thermostatic kind of mechanism which increases when world temperatures become too high or low to maintain life of a certain type on the planet.....

This could be a very interesting idea if spun the right way.....

Thanks 4 the input / idea, all.....

Quoting spathy:


I know :O)
Just looked like an icebreaker was needed.
Thanks for acknowledging my dry humor.

crap
Just what we need now, someone coming in and chipping away at the lone iceberg still intact here. ;>)

Quoting BahaHurican:
So potentially, at least, a theory could be posited whereby vulcanism acts as a thermostatic kind of mechanism which increases when world temperatures become too high or low to maintain life of a certain type on the planet.....

This could be a very interesting idea if spun the right way.....

Thanks 4 the input / idea, all.....

Thats actually a good theory, wood cool the earth down by blocking the sun, but if the earth gets to a certain temperature the gas has more effect as a greenhouse gas? that's what you are saying?

U guys do realize that iceberg is nowhere near TX, or the GoM, even....

www.earthquake-report.com has the scoop--as much as anybody knows. emcf30 posted a great audio report with pics and maps on the previous blog.

Quoting shoreacres:


Watch it. Some of us remember that chicken and that egg! ;-)

Yes!
But Grothar seems to be silent on the subject. :O)

Quoting shoreacres:


Watch it. Some of us remember that chicken and that egg! ;-)

Don't make fun off Grothar and press like that...

Did Levi do a tidbit for the day

Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:


Thats actually a good theory, wood cool the earth down by blocking the sun, but if the earth gets to a certain temperature the gas has more effect as a greenhouse gas? that's what you are saying?

Yeah, that's the kind of thing I'm thinking about. An interesting premise for an "alternate world" kind of sci-fi....

Quoting southernbell72:
Did Levi do a tidbit for the day

think he did it early today.... he was working later.

Quoting southernbell72:
Did Levi do a tidbit for the day

yes

Quoting shoreacres:


Watch it. Some of us remember that chicken and that egg! ;-)

"shhh", said the rooster...

Quoting southernbell72:
Did Levi do a tidbit for the day

That just sounds weird.

Quoting BahaHurican:
Yeah, that's the kind of thing I'm thinking about. An interesting premise for an "alternate world" kind of sci-fi....

It actually makes sense, there should be simple way to study that in a controlled environment.

Oscillating 'Plug' of Magma Causes Tremors That Forecast Volcanic Eruptions


The UBC model illustrates how, as the center 'plug' of dense magma rises, it simply oscillates, or 'wags,' against the cushion of gas bubbles, generating tremors at a consistent range of frequencies observed around the world. (Credit: Mark Jellinek, UBC)

ScienceDaily (Feb. 24, 2011) - University of British Columbia geophysicists are offering a new explanation for seismic tremors accompanying volcanic eruptions that could advance forecasting of explosive eruptions such as recent events at Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines, Chaiten Volcano in Chile, and Mount St. Helens in Washington State.

All explosive volcanic eruptions are preceded and accompanied by tremors that last from hours to weeks, and a remarkably consistent range of tremor frequencies has been observed by scientists before and during volcanic eruptions around the world.

However, the underlying mechanism for these long-lived volcanic earthquakes has never been determined. Most proposed explanations are dependent upon the shape of the volcanic conduit -- the 'vent' or 'pipe' through which lava passes through -- or the gas content of the erupting magma, characteristics that vary greatly from volcano to volcano and are impossible to determine during or after volcanic activity.


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