Arizona's fire danger to increase Saturday; Adrian hits Category 4

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 3:06 PM GMT on June 10, 2011

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The powerful winds that have fanned Arizona's massive Wallow fire into the state's second largest fire on record will remain relatively modest on Friday, and the forecast for Eastern Arizona calls for afternoon winds of just 10 - 15 mph. On Thursday, Luna, New Mexico, located about 50 miles northeast of the fire, had sustained winds that peaked at just 12 mph, with gusts to 22. These are the lightest afternoon winds the fire region has seen all week, though firefighting efforts were hindered by very low relative humidities that reached 5% on Thursday. Firefighters were able to make progress Thursday, and the Wallow fire is now 5% contained. Unfortunately, NOAA's Storm Prediction Center forecasts that critical fire conditions will return on Saturday and Sunday, with strong southwest winds of 15 - 20 mph, gusting to 35 mph. The return of critical fire conditions this weekend means that the Wallow fire will likely become Arizona's largest wildfire in history, a distinction currently held by the 2002 Rodeo-Chediski fire (732 square miles.) The Wallow fire has grown steadily from 300 square miles on Sunday to 603 square miles on Thursday--about 50% of the size of Rhode Island.


Figure 1. Smoke from Arizona fires, including the Wallow Fire, continued traveling toward the northeast on June 8, 2011. As the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on the Terra satellite acquired this natural-color image at 12:10 Central Daylight Time, thick smoke stretched from New Mexico and Texas northeastward to Illinois. Image credit: NASA Earth Observatory.

94L bringing heavy rains to the Bahamas
The large, disorganized tropical disturbance (94L) that brought heavy rains to Jamaica, Cuba, and Haiti early this week reorganized slightly overnight, and is now bringing heavy rains to the Bahama Islands. The storm killed at least 23 people in Haiti earlier this week, due to torrential flooding rains. Satellite-estimated rainfall amounts indicate 8 -10 inches of rain fell over Haiti's southwestern peninsula this week. None of the reliable computer models is showing development of 94L into a tropical depression, and NHC is giving the disturbance a 10% chance of developing by Sunday. Wind shear is a high 20 - 30 knots in the region between Cuba and South Carolina, making development unlikely. Elsewhere in the Atlantic, none of the reliable computer models is predicting tropical cyclone development over the next seven days.


Figure 2. Morning satellite image of Hurricane Adrian taken at 10:15am EDT June 10, 2011.

Annular Adrian becomes the first major hurricane of the Eastern Pacific hurricane season
Hurricane Adrian put on an impressive bout of rapid intensification Thursday, intensifying into the season's first major hurricane in the Eastern Pacific. Adrian is the globe's 6th Category 4 or stronger tropical cyclone of the year. Adrian is expected to remain far enough offshore the coast of Mexico to not pose a threat to that country. Gradual weakening is likely through the weekend, since Adrian will be tracking over cooler ocean waters. Adrian's decay will be slower than usual for a hurricane, since it has become what is called an annular hurricane. Annular hurricanes feature a large eye surrounded by a very thick eyewall, with no spiral rain bands. The very thick eyewall makes annular hurricanes resistant to weakening due to wind shear, dry air, or cool waters. Annular hurricanes are rare; only 3% of all Eastern Pacific tropical cyclones become annular, and 1% of all Atlantic ones.

A record 100-year flood on the Missouri River
The greatest flood in recorded history is occurring along sections of the Missouri River, which runs from Montana to St. Louis, Missouri. On Thursday, the river hit 28.0' feet at Williston, North Dakota, surpassing the record flood height set in 1912. The river is expected to continue to rise to 1.4' above the 1912 mark by Tuesday. This week, the Missouri River at Omaha, Nebraska surpassed the level set during the great 1993 flood, and the river's height is currently the 2nd greatest on record, 9' below the mark set in 1952. Water releases at the six flood control dams on the Missouri River are now at more than double their previous all-time highs; these dams were built between 1940 and 1964. This great 100-year flood on the Missouri River is just beginning, and is likely to cause major damage over the next few weeks.

Have a great weekend everyone, and I'll be back Monday with a new post.

Jeff Masters

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Filling sandbags at the Hamburg, IA elementery school.
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Albuquerque Smoke-Free for Now (olzab2)
Arizona's Wallow fire blankets Albuquerque in smoke for days, but we got a real "breather" at last on 6/8/11
Albuquerque Smoke-Free for Now
Sun Setting on Heavy Smoke (gilg72)
814 PM. Sun slipped down lower than the heavy clouds, but very heavy smoke. Almost didn't see it. Smoke comes from an over 100,000 acre fire in SW Az.
Sun Setting on Heavy Smoke

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1328. aquak9
hahaha- Hi unruly! I was eating raw corn around midnite last night, hahaha
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1327. aquak9
depends on what that word is, Aussie. "Panties" will get you banned for sure.
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1326. pottery
Baha.
Enjoy your Mango's.
This year, for the first time in a very long time, mango's are very few and far between.
The result of the wet dry season I think.
My trees flowered, but I think the rains did a job on them.
Will check the flowering next year, to see what I can notice re: the bees.
I wonder if the flowers were not pollinated ?
Everything else was flowering as well around that time.

I know that the Citrus will be scarce because they love very dry and hot conditions in Feb-May. Did not get that this year.
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Quoting BahaHurican:
Nah, MANGOs are the thing... going outside now to see if there are any left. I needed this early season.... lol just a pity that in July they will be all gone and there will be nothing much to replace them...

Aqua, it seems to take catastrophes of huge proportions to move just about anything sensible into being in modern societies.... hurricane, earthquake, firestorm, etc.... seems their main purpose is to cause governments to change nasty management practices that should have been modified 20 years earlier.... just my cynical 2 cents....


2-Cents is really what its all about anyway, even with the best of intentions it all cost $ (imo)
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1324. unruly
Quoting aquak9:
I'm cynical, too, baha, good morning by the way.

And g'morning to Nea, too, have enjoyed the reading this morning.
Mornin aqua after our convo yesterday, I had to get some corn. Ate three pieces right out of the bag. Low 60's and rained all night here. Gonna be a good day, rain has moved on and sun will shine later.
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Quoting aquak9:
We didn't have smoke-filled days when I was little, Aussie. Now my Dau, who is 20, thinks it's normal over the summer.

Our children have grown up under a very different set of circumstances than we have.

Ever since i can remember, my country has had bad summers with fires, past 2 years Sydney has been very lucky but I feel our luck may be running out soon. Oh, can i say a certain word in here today?
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1321. aquak9
I'm cynical, too, baha, good morning by the way.

And g'morning to Nea, too, have enjoyed the reading this morning.
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1319. aquak9
We didn't have smoke-filled days when I was little, Aussie. Now my Dau, who is 20, thinks it's normal over the summer.

Our children have grown up under a very different set of circumstances than we have.
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Quoting Neapolitan:

Well, again, the "significant" thing isn't anyone's subjective opinion; it's a statement based on pure statistical math. At any rate, here's what Jones himself had to say yesterday in talking about the change from 90% to 95%:

"It just shows the difficulty of achieving significance with a short time series, and that's why longer series - 20 or 30 years - would be a much better way of estimating trends and getting significance on a consistent basis."

So, bottom line, Jones hasn't varied his position one bit, though it appears he'd be open to doing so with more data--which is exactly the attitude honest scientists should always have, IMO.

And now I'm off to the store; this should be the last good week for cantaloupe. Yeah, they smell, er, strong. But they help alleviate my own personal drought. ;-)
Nah, MANGOs are the thing... going outside now to see if there are any left. I needed this early season.... lol just a pity that in July they will be all gone and there will be nothing much to replace them...

Aqua, it seems to take catastrophes of huge proportions to move just about anything sensible into being in modern societies.... hurricane, earthquake, firestorm, etc.... seems their main purpose is to cause governments to change nasty management practices that should have been modified 20 years earlier.... just my cynical 2 cents....
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Quoting aquak9:
"Where is the common sense? Why does it take a catastrophe of this magnitude to get us to this point?"

Isn't that always the case? New Orleans' levees? South Florida building standards? Deep-sea drilling regulations? Or, on a macro level, in our own lives: smoking too much, eating too much, drinking too much?

Human nature, I suppose. But not very productive. I guess the fact that evolution hasn't quite forced it out of us means there must be some evolutionary advantage to procrastination... ;-)
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Quoting aquak9:
From Nea's link:

McKinnon, the group's public-lands director, said forest conditions are a legacy of poor management practices, such as overgrazing and old-tree logging, but "finger-pointing is not going to help us move forward."


You could replace many of those words with other words concerning water management in many states. Same with the next line:

"We knew this problem was coming, and we're not moving fast enough," said U.S. Rep. Paul Gosar, a Republican who represents the area hit by the Wallow Fire. "Where is the common sense? Why does it take a catastrophe of this magnitude to get us to this point?"


It always takes a catastrophe like this to generate change. We are still dealing with the fall-out from the fires last year in Victoria. I have a bad feeling about this summer and our fire season and moving into an El Nino. All this rain we have had means there will be more fuel to burn.
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1315. aquak9
From Nea's link:

McKinnon, the group's public-lands director, said forest conditions are a legacy of poor management practices, such as overgrazing and old-tree logging, but "finger-pointing is not going to help us move forward."


You could replace many of those words with other words concerning water management in many states. Same with the next line:

"We knew this problem was coming, and we're not moving fast enough," said U.S. Rep. Paul Gosar, a Republican who represents the area hit by the Wallow Fire. "Where is the common sense? Why does it take a catastrophe of this magnitude to get us to this point?"

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1314. pottery
Quoting AussieStorm:

Oh i am enjoying this drink very much. would probably have to wait till morning to see if it worked though.

I am carefully monitoring your Vital Signs, from here.
I note the dropping of Caps in your writing.
It's an important first sign...
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Morning everybody.

Quoting EYEStoSEA:


I do remember that , old Cosmic :) and BTW the KKKid is back, and writes just as good as ever....
Have to admit, KKKid is one of our decent recent additions...

Quoting HadesGodWyvern:
India Meteorological Department
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #4
DEPRESSION ARB01-2011
8:30 AM IST June 12 2011
====================================

At 3:00 AM UTC, Depression ARB01-2011 over northeast Arabian Sea off Maharashtra-south Gujarat coasts moved north northwestward and crossed Saurashtra coast about 25 km east of Diu in the early morning and now lays about 70 km south southwest of Amreli. It will move northwestward and weak gradually during the next 24 hours.
Thanks 4 the update, HGW. Seems to me that the Arabian Sea has been more active in the last 5 years than in the previous years before that.... wonder if that's actually true, or just my perception due to my increased knowledge of storm events?

Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Morning WPB.... noticing there is still some convective activity associated with the westernmost Twave... wonder if it's just going to jog along the Nrn coast of SAmerica or move further north....

Quoting Neapolitan:

It's just 354 days, 12 hours, and 1 minute until the start of the 2012 hurricane season... ;-)
Tee hee hee....

Quoting pottery:

Thanks for responding, Aussie.
I really appreciate it.
Especially since everyone else seems to be ignoring me this morning...

Several questions in my post 1257, and ???
Hey, we're all still just getting over Saturday night.... lol....
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1311. pottery
Post 1304
That's a good article you linked there, Nea.
Major re-think going on.
Major work to be done.
Major problems looming.

Bad Stuff...
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Quoting aquak9:
no dance yet, Aussie. Share some of that YellowDrank and I'll be bouncing up and down the street, though.

Oh i am enjoying this drink very much. would probably have to wait till morning to see if it worked though.
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1309. aquak9
no dance yet, Aussie. Share some of that YellowDrank and I'll be bouncing up and down the street, though.
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Quoting Cotillion:


Hi Nea. Yeah, of course, that's statistics. Just a little skeptical over the wording, but I suppose it makes sense. Just the data set is so small and coincides with things such as positive AMO/PDO which'll impact on some of the temperatures. A sudden change based on one year with a small data set - the shorter the set, the greater the fluctuation from one year to the next.

But this is only one professor - there are plenty others with greater reputations and a more persuasive argument to the same end.

Well, again, the "significant" thing isn't anyone's subjective opinion; it's a statement based on pure statistical math. At any rate, here's what Jones himself had to say yesterday in talking about the change from 90% to 95%:

"It just shows the difficulty of achieving significance with a short time series, and that's why longer series - 20 or 30 years - would be a much better way of estimating trends and getting significance on a consistent basis."

So, bottom line, Jones hasn't varied his position one bit, though it appears he'd be open to doing so with more data--which is exactly the attitude honest scientists should always have, IMO.

And now I'm off to the store; this should be the last good week for cantaloupe. Yeah, they smell, er, strong. But they help alleviate my own personal drought. ;-)
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Quoting aquak9:

Twenty yard penalty for excessive aggressive use of overly emphatic precipitation wording!!

Aussie- it looks like a cricket-sized Stonehenge. Do I gotta build that? I do have some bamboo....


:) Yeah, you're probably right. Met's are playing mind games with the residents. Until the mid upper levels of the atmosphere become more moist, it ain't gonna rain, at least not much.
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Quoting Neapolitan:

Hey, Cotillion. But it's not some subjective determination Jones made; the longer data set (1995-2010) simply pushed the odds of GW not being natural above the 95% threshold scientists look for, so it wasn't some personal change of heart Jones had. And if 2010 cools enough, next years' analyses could drop back below 95%, and the warming trend would no longer be "significant". It's just statistics... ;-)


Hi Nea. Yeah, of course, that's statistics. Just a little skeptical over the wording, but I suppose it makes sense. Just the data set is so small and coincides with things such as positive AMO/PDO which'll impact on some of the temperatures. A sudden change based on one year with a small data set - the shorter the set, the greater the fluctuation from one year to the next.

But this is only one professor - there are plenty others with greater reputations and a more persuasive argument to the same end.
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Quoting aquak9:

Twenty yard penalty for excessive aggressive use of overly emphatic precipitation wording!!

Aussie- it looks like a cricket-sized Stonehenge. Do I gotta build that? I do have some bamboo....

Make them out of whatever you can, but be prepared for strange looks. What happened to that rain dance, did you do it?
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The Wallow Fire should become the state's largest today with weather like this:

...RED FLAG WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 11 AM TO 8 PM MST FOR
STRONG WINDS AND LOW RELATIVE HUMIDITIES...

* TIMING: CRITICAL FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED FROM 11 AM
UNTIL 8 PM MST SUNDAY.

* 20-FOOT WINDS: SOUTHWEST WINDS OF 15 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 40
MPH.

* RELATIVE HUMIDITIES: AFTERNOON MINIMUM RELATIVE HUMIDITIES
WILL RANGE FROM 5 TO 10 PERCENT.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A RED FLAG WARNING MEANS THAT CRITICAL FIRE WEATHER CONDITIONS
ARE EITHER OCCURRING OR ARE IMMINENT. A COMBINATION OF STRONG
WINDS AND LOW RELATIVE HUMIDITIES WILL CREATE EXTREME FIRE GROWTH
POTENTIAL

Ouch. Anyway, for those interested, the Arizona Republic has a long but informative story on the past, current, and future fire situation in Arizona. The outlook is worse than I knew...
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1303. pottery
Thanks for your response as well, Nea. (1291)
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1302. aquak9
Quoting IKE:
Now it's "somewhat" unsettled for you aquak.....are they tipping Aussie's bourbon?

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSONVILLE FL
530 AM EDT SUN JUN 12 2011

.SYNOPSIS...

THE REGION WILL BE IN A SOMEWHAT UNSETTLED WEATHER PATTERN
THIS WEEK...AS THE HEAT BUILDS.


Twenty yard penalty for excessive aggressive use of overly emphatic precipitation wording!!

Aussie- it looks like a cricket-sized Stonehenge. Do I gotta build that? I do have some bamboo....
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1301. pottery
Post 1287.
Thanks Aussie.

Keep taking the Medicine.
You'll be fine.
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Quoting Cotillion:


Yeah, I saw the report. Thought about linking it on here, but thought better of it. His reputation is damaged and his 'conversion' is a bit shaky. Going from skeptical to believer just because of an extra year of data? I appreciate, statistically, a line has to be drawn at some point from conjecture to fact, but given a phenomenon of this magnitude, an extra year from 14 to 15 (or whatever it was, it was single digits) is hardly going to make a ton of difference.

Hey, Cotillion. But it's not some subjective determination Jones made; the longer data set (1995-2010) simply pushed the odds of GW not being natural above the 95% threshold scientists look for, so it wasn't some personal change of heart Jones had. And if 2010 cools enough, next years' analyses could drop back below 95%, and the warming trend would no longer be "significant". It's just statistics... ;-)
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1299. emcf30
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1298. pottery
Quoting aquak9:
What is a cricket stump?

No wonder it never rains there.....
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1297. emcf30
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1296. IKE
Now it's "somewhat" unsettled for you aquak.....are they tipping Aussie's bourbon?

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSONVILLE FL
530 AM EDT SUN JUN 12 2011

.SYNOPSIS...

THE REGION WILL BE IN A SOMEWHAT UNSETTLED WEATHER PATTERN
THIS WEEK...AS THE HEAT BUILDS.

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Quoting aquak9:
What is a cricket stump?

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1294. IKE

Quoting aquak9:
(wonders if Ike is secretly swiping some of Aussie's YellowDrank)
I need a good stiff drink. I haven't had one in years.
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1293. IKE

Quoting AussieStorm:

That's what i am drinking mate!
Yo bud. You'll sleep like a baby.
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1292. aquak9
(wonders if Ike is secretly swiping some of Aussie's YellowDrank)
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Quoting pottery:

Good morning Nea.
What do you think about Dr. Phil Jones changing sides like that?
You think he has lost his marbles??

:):))

And good morning to you.

I wouldn't say Jones changed sides. He announced early last year after gathering the 2009 global temperature data that the warming observed between 1995 and then was significant only to the 90% level, and some unfamiliar with scientific terminology misinterpreted to mean that there had been no warming at all. (Scientists generally use a minimum threshold of 95% to determine whether a trend is likely due to some underlying cause, rather than emerging by chance.) Now, Jones and friends just completed a new analysis that includes the 2010 temperature data, and that analysis boosted the trend above the 95% threshold, meaning that the warming truly is statistically significant.

Of course, now many of those who last year were misconstrued Jones' remark and now claiming that he's a flip-flopper. But that's just how it goes, I suppose. C'est la vie... ;-)

At this moment, I'd settle for a little Global Cooling. Or at least some Florida Raining.
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1290. pottery
Quoting Cotillion:


Yeah, I saw the report. Thought about linking it on here, but thought better of it. His reputation is damaged and his 'conversion' is a bit shaky. Going from skeptical to believer just because of an extra year of data? I appreciate, statistically, a line has to be drawn at some point from conjecture to fact, but given a phenomenon of this magnitude, an extra year from 14 to 15 (or whatever it was, it was single digits) is hardly going to make a ton of difference.

I agree about the one more year...
But he was careful to explain that the 90% to 95% increase in Probability was the factor that changed his mind.

Interesting anyway!
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Quoting IKE:
1/4 bottle of Bourbon......



That's what i am drinking mate!
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1288. aquak9
What is a cricket stump?
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Quoting pottery:
Good Morning, you early birds.
I remember an old saying about early birds getting worms, or some such thing.
So you guys need to be careful about that.

Anyway, look at the SAL this morning...
Huge outbreak, but really far North.
I cant remember seeing that before.
There is a very peculiar set-up there with winds from the south (?) off the Gulf of Guinea and over central West Africa.

How will this affect the progression of T-Waves?
No idea, would have to wait and see.

Also, it's strange (but not unusual for June) how relatively dry the Trop. Atl. has become after a couple of weeks of being very moist.
I guess the ITCZ isn't moving as far north.

Did anyone see the BBC report on Mr. Phil Jones?
He WAS a major Global Warming Sceptic.
But now he is firmly in the camp of the Worried.
That's bad news, you know! Maybe he need funding has decided to switch camps to get govt funding, some people would do anything to get funding for research.
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1286. IKE
Dedicated to Aussie.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEgCkOfl4jE

Buying bread from a man in Brussels

He was six foot four and full of muscle

I said, "Do you speak-a my language?"

He just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich

And he said,



"I come from a land down under

Where beer does flow and men chunder

Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?

You better run, you better take cover." (Yeahhh!)
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1285. pottery
Quoting aquak9:


Priceless. Absolutely Priceless.

Has anyone seen pottery? usually he's in here, bombarding us with questions. :)

Nop!
He left in disgust..

Greetings Aqua!
You guys need to get Cotillion to send you some Cricket Stumps.
Just put them out on the nearest grassy patch, and VOILA ! ...

RAIN!!
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1284. IKE
1/4 bottle of Bourbon......


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Quoting pottery:
Good Morning, you early birds.
I remember an old saying about early birds getting worms, or some such thing.
So you guys need to be careful about that.

Anyway, look at the SAL this morning...
Huge outbreak, but really far North.
I cant remember seeing that before.
There is a very peculiar set-up there with winds from the south (?) off the Gulf of Guinea and over central West Africa.

How will this affect the progression of T-Waves?
Also, it's strange (but not unusual for June) how relatively dry the Trop. Atl. has become after a couple of weeks of being very moist.

Did anyone see the BBC report on Mr. Phil Jones?
He WAS a major Global Warming Sceptic.
But now he is firmly in the camp of the Worried.
That's bad news, you know!


Yeah, I saw the report. Thought about linking it on here, but thought better of it. His reputation is damaged and his 'conversion' is a bit shaky. Going from skeptical to believer just because of an extra year of data? I appreciate, statistically, a line has to be drawn at some point from conjecture to fact, but given a phenomenon of this magnitude, an extra year from 14 to 15 (or whatever it was, it was single digits) is hardly going to make a ton of difference.
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Quoting pottery:

Thanks for responding, Aussie.
I really appreciate it.
Especially since everyone else seems to be ignoring me this morning...

Several questions in my post 1257, and ???

Let me have a look. i'm busy drinking my special medicine. If i can't think of any answers, i'll just make them up. lol
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1281. aquak9
Quoting AussieStorm:

You maybe right, you maybe crazy. but it just maybe a lunatic this blog is looking for.


Priceless. Absolutely Priceless.

Has anyone seen pottery? usually he's in here, bombarding us with questions. :)
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Quoting AussieStorm:

Well, with our Govt bringing in a stupid carbon tax, it's going to practically end all manufacturing here in Australia and send it to China. Oh and they did say before the last election back in August last year there would be no carbon tax, then February this year they said there would be. If there was another Election in the coming months, the current govt would lose badly.


Our industry has only picked back up again, took like a decade, helped by some large scale private investment.

Pretty much coinciding with our change of government last year. Hopefully it won't be too bad for you guys, especially as Australia's economy last quarter wasn't looking clever.

And ah, it's tennis and cricket season so therefore all the rain comes (along with pitiful temperatures). I'm beginning to think that these two sports may actually be a sophisticated form of rain dance...
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1279. pottery
Quoting AussieStorm:

I need to get rid of this chest and head cold i have had for the past month. It's either this or very strong anti-biotics that will hurt my immune system.

Thanks for responding, Aussie.
I really appreciate it.
Especially since everyone else seems to be ignoring me this morning...

Several questions in my post 1257, and ???
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