The global tropical cyclone season of 2010: record inactivity

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 1:14 AM GMT on April 03, 2011

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The year 2010 was one of the strangest on record globally for tropical cyclones. Each year, the globe has about 92 tropical cyclones--called hurricanes in the Atlantic and Eastern Pacific, typhoons in the Western Pacific, and tropical cyclones in the Southern Hemisphere. But in 2010, we had just 68 of these storms--the fewest since the dawn of the satellite era in 1970. The previous record slowest year was 1977, when 69 tropical cyclones occurred world-wide. Both the Western Pacific and Eastern Pacific had their quietest seasons on record in 2010, the Atlantic had its 3rd busiest season since record keeping began in 1851, and the Southern Hemisphere had a below average season. As a result, the Atlantic, which ordinarily accounts for just 13% of global cyclone activity, accounted for 28% in 2010--the greatest proportion since accurate tropical cyclone records began in the 1970s. Global Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE) for 2010 was the lowest since the late 1970s (ACE is a measure of the total destructive power of a hurricane season, based on the number of days strong winds are observed.)


Figure 1. Visible satellite image of 2010's strongest tropical cyclone: Super Typhoon Megi at 2:25 UTC October 18, 2010. A reconnaissance aircraft measured a central pressure of 885 mb and surface winds of 190 mph in the storm, making Megi the 8th strongest tropical cyclone in world history. Image credit: NASA.

A record quiet 2010 Northwest Pacific Typhoon Season
The Western Pacific set records for fewest number of named storms (fifteen, previous record seventeen in 1998) and typhoons (nine, tied with the previous record of nine in 1998. Note that Tropical Storm Mindulle was upgraded to a typhoon in post-analysis after the season was over.) Reliable records began in the mid-1960s. For just the second year in history, the Atlantic had more named storms and hurricane-strength storms than the Western Pacific. The only other year this occurred was in 2005. Ordinarily, the Western Pacific has double to triple the amount of tropical cyclones of the Atlantic. One other notable feature of the 2010 season was the lack of a land-falling typhoon on the Japanese mainland. This is only the second such occurrence since 1988.

In 2010, there was only one super typhoon--a storm with at least 150 mph winds--in the Western Pacific. However, this storm, Super Typhoon Megi, was a doozy. Megi's sustained winds cranked up to a fearsome 190 mph and its central pressure bottomed out at 885 mb on October 16, making it the 8th most intense tropical cyclone in world history. Fortunately, Megi weakened significantly before hitting the Philippines as a Category 3 typhoon. Megi killed 69 people on Taiwan and in the Philippines and did $700 million in damage, and was the second deadliest and damaging typhoon of 2010. Category 3 Typhoon Fanapi was the deadliest and most damaging typhoon of 2010, doing over $1 billion in damage to Taiwan and China and killing 105.

The record quiet typhoon season in 2010 was due, in part, to the La Niña phenomena. During such events, the formation region for Western Pacific typhoons moves northwestward, closer to China. Thus, storms that form in the Western Pacific spend less time over water before they encounter land, resulting in a lesser chance to become a named storm, and less time to intensify. They also accumulate a lower ACE due to their shorter duration. Since the Western Pacific is responsible for 35% of the world's major tropical cyclones, the global ACE value is strongly tied to year-to-year variations in the El Niño/La Niña cycle.


Figure 2.
Statistics for the global tropical cyclone season of 2010. The two numbers in each box represent the actual number observed in 2010, followed by the averages from the period 1983-2007 (in parentheses). Averages and records were computed using the December 23, 2008 release of NOAA's International Best Track Archive for Climate Stewardship.

A record quiet 2010 Eastern Pacific Typhoon Season
In the Eastern Pacific, it was also a record-quiet season. On average, the Eastern Pacific has 15 named storms, 8 hurricanes, and 3 intense hurricanes in a season. In 2010, there were 8 named storms, 3 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes. The previous record quietest season since 1966 was the year 1977, when the Eastern Pacific had 8 named storms, 4 hurricanes, and zero intense hurricanes. La Niña was largely responsible for the quiet Eastern Pacific hurricane season, due in part to the cool sea surface temperatures it brought. It is quite remarkable that both the Eastern and Western Pacific ocean basins had record quiet seasons in the same year--there is no historical precedent for such an occurrence.

Climate change and the 2008 global tropical cyclone season
We only have about 30 years of reliable global tropical cyclone data, and tropical cyclones are subject to large natural variations in numbers and intensities. Thus, it will be very difficult at present to prove that climate change is affecting global tropical cyclone activity. (This is less so in the Atlantic, where we have a longer reliable data record to work with.) A common theme of many recent publications on the future of tropical cyclones globally in a warming climate is that the total number of these storms will decrease, but the strongest storms will get stronger. For example, a 2010 review paper published in Nature Geosciences concluded: "greenhouse warming will cause the globally averaged intensity of tropical cyclones to shift towards stronger storms, with intensity increases of 2 - 11% by 2100. Existing modeling studies also consistently project decreases in the globally averaged frequency of tropical cyclones, by 6 - 34%. Balanced against this, higher resolution modeling studies typically project substantial increases in the frequency of the most intense cyclones, and increases of the order of 20% in the precipitation rate within 100 km of the storm centre." Last year, I discussed a paper by Bender et al that concluded that the total number of Atlantic hurricanes is expected to decrease by the end of the century, but there could be an increase of 81% in the number of Category 4 and 5 storms. The net effect of a decrease in total number of hurricanes but an increase in the strongest hurricanes should cause an increase in U.S. hurricane damages of about 30% by the end of the century, the authors computed, assuming that hurricane damages behave as they did during the past century. A new paper just published by Murakami et. al predicts that Western Pacific tropical cyclones may decrease in number by 23% by the end of the century, primarily due to a shift in the formation location and tracks of these storms.

In light of these theoretical results, it is interesting that 2010 saw the lowest number of global tropical cyclones on record, but an average number of very strong Category 4 and 5 storms. Fully 21% of last year's tropical cyclones reached Category 4 or 5 strength, versus just 14% during the period 1983 - 2007. Most notably, in 2010 we had the second strongest tropical cyclone on record in the Arabian Sea (Category 4 Cyclone Phet in June) and the strongest tropical cyclone ever to hit Myanmar/Burma (October's Tropical Cyclone Giri, an upper end Category 4 storm with 155 mph winds.) It is too early to read anything into this year's global tropical cyclone numbers, though--we need many more years of data before making any judgments on how global tropical cyclones might be responding to climate change.


Figure 3. Visible satellite image of Tropical Cyclone Phet on Thursday, June 3, 2010. Record heat over southern Asia in May helped heat up the Arabian Sea to 2°C above normal, and the exceptionally warm SSTs helped fuel Tropical Cyclone Phet into the second strongest tropical cyclone ever recorded in the Arabian Sea. Phet peaked at Category 4 strength with 145 mph winds. Only Category 5 Cyclone Gonu of 2007, which devastated Oman, was a stronger Arabian Sea cyclone. Phet killed 44 people and did $700 million in damage to Oman.


Figure 4. Visible MODIS satellite image of Tropical Cyclone Giri taken at 2:55am EDT October 22, 2010, just prior to landfall in Myanmar/Burma. At the time, Giri was a Category 4 storm with 145 mph winds. Giri killed 157 people and did $359 million in damage. Image credit: NASA.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting hydrus:
Well, what was your take on it.
Inflammatory post was wrong. Way way too broad a brush.
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526 goosegirl "...the solution to the whole mess is proper planning for any continigency you can dream up BEFORE disaster hits. There will always be human error, and freak storms and once-a-century occurances, but... Japan has lots of earthquakes, and has since pre-history. Japan also has had more than its share of tsunamis, and they are on the historical record. The risk of earthquakes and tsunamis was very well known when the reactors were built."

A bit worse than that. Along the coast of IwatePrefecture and northernMiyagiPrefecture, (from north to south) Otsuchi, Ofunato, Rikuzentakata, Kesennuma, and Minamisanriku were nearly totally obliterated by the tsunami generated by the magnitude9 earthquake.

(The southernmost line connects to FukushimaDaiichi. The lone red dot represents centralTokyo.)

They happen often enough that "You will experience a tsunami twice in your lifetime" has long been a folk saying amongst those who live on the Iwate and Miyagi coastline. ie No need to even make reference to the SanrikuEarthquake of 869.

Deliberate ignorance and deliberate stupidity are the main cause of this nuclear disaster; not the earthquake, not the tsunami. Heck, TEPCO executives and Japanese government officials even ignored the lessons that they should have learned in 2007 from the Niigata-Chuetsu-Oki Earthquake that took out TEPCO's Kashiwazaki-Kariwa NuclearPowerStation.
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Quoting jeffs713:
How about raising the airfare? Wouldn't that make more sense, since people generally weigh quite a bit more than their bags?
They tried a week or so ago. SouthWest didn't budge, so the other big carriers gave it up.
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Quoting hurricanejunky:


This inflammatory post is dead wrong. There is no one on here who thinks all industry is terrible and only government and politicians can do anything. There is good and bad in both government and the private sector. You're painting with a big ol' intolerant brush. Let's not confuse things here. Government is capable of doing anything with proper leadership. I'll leave that issue at that.
As for private industry, it's more than capable of doing most anything but the profit / greed motive has slowly eroded the greatness of the private sector. It seems like everything is permeated with incompetence or poor design. This is usually due to cutting corners because of financial concerns. I think if we're going to do something, let's do it right even if it means making a few less dollars.
If a corporation makes $10.2 billion this quarter instead of $10.5 billion but prevented a major environmental disaster or gave their employees a little higher wage or better benefits will the world be a worse place? What the current corporate climate reminds me of is the Grinch. Even after he steals everything out of the house, his long arm reaches out of the fireplace to pluck the last crumb from the floor. Of course, it's those like you who sit on the sidelines and cheer them on while they bend the middle class over. It has nothing with what CAN be done, but what WILL be done. Please get it right before posting condescending rhetoric.

I don't think you know me as well as you think. Find an example, any example, of myself cheering any behemoth of a corporation and any disregard for the laws that protect life and welfare of people or environment.

In general, corporations serve a purpose and provide opportunity for that middle class guy to make a living, if regulated correctly and only up to a point. Teddy Roosevelt is my hero and I am the first to hope for anti-trust suits when Exxonmobil, texacoshellchevron, at&bellbellbellcingularbellbellbelltmobil come to exist. Disgusting that we have returned to the good ol days...and in the very same industries.

I thought it equally repulsive when the champions of the to too big to fail mantra were the same that bash the big corporations at every turn.

I don't know what you think, nor will I hazard a guess.
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Quoting twincomanche:
No no.
Well, what was your take on it.
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Quoting twincomanche:
No no.
Or should I say Yes yes. I'm so confused.
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Its fixin to go neutral. Hopefully it will not go negative to quickly. If it does, more tornadoes than originally thought..
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Quoting hydrus:
Were you diggin dat post too T.C..?...:)
No no.
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Quoting 1900hurricane:
The storms completely missed us here in College Station, TX, despite having a 60% chance from the NWS and being in a Severe Thunderstorm Watch. Since the beginning of October, we have had only 6.00 inches of rain. That's an average of only an inch per month! I have a feeling that D4 conditions may start showing up soon...


I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen them already.

I fully expect the next map (coming out Thursday) to look drastically different... and drastically more severe.
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Quoting twincomanche:
Right.
Were you diggin dat post too T.C..?...:)
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Quoting IFuSAYso:
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PLEASE STAY TUNED TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FOR FURTHER
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Inconvenience.?..I wonder whats going on... It is getting really bad.
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Quoting hydrus:
This is a great post.
Right.
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Check out the "sawtooth" pattern in the southwestern quadrant of the low pressure system in the north Pacific...

Water Vapor Loop

Just embedded eddies I guess, but it's mean looking...
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CLARKSVILLE NOAA WEATHER STATION DOWN

NOUS44 KOHX 041648
PNSOHX
TNZ005>007-023>027-042245-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NASHVILLE TN
1143 AM CDT MON APR 4 2011

...CLARKSVILLE NOAA WEATHER STATION DOWN...

THE NOAA WEATHER RADIO SITE...STATION WWH37 IN CLARKSVILLE...WILL
BE DOWN UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. PLEASE ADJUST YOUR NOAA WEATHER
RADIO TO EITHER THE NASHILLE TRANSMITTER AT 162.550 MEGAHERTZ OR
THE WAVERLY TRANSMITTER AT 162.400 MEGAHERTZ. BOTH OF THE THESE
TRANSMITTERS WILL EFFECTIVELY PROVIDE YOU WITH LIFE SAVING WEATHER
INFORMATION.

PLEASE STAY TUNED TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FOR FURTHER
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WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE..

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Quoting hurricanejunky:


This inflammatory post is dead wrong. There is no one on here who thinks all industry is terrible and only government and politicians can do anything. There is good and bad in both government and the private sector. You're painting with a big ol' intolerant brush. Let's not confuse things here. Government is capable of doing anything with proper leadership. I'll leave that issue at that.
As for private industry, it's more than capable of doing most anything but the profit / greed motive has slowly eroded the greatness of the private sector. It seems like everything is permeated with incompetence or poor design. This is usually due to cutting corners because of financial concerns. I think if we're going to do something, let's do it right even if it means making a few less dollars.
If a corporation makes $10.2 billion this quarter instead of $10.5 billion but prevented a major environmental disaster or gave their employees a little higher wage or better benefits will the world be a worse place? What the current corporate climate reminds me of is the Grinch. Even after he steals everything out of the house, his long arm reaches out of the fireplace to pluck the last crumb from the floor. Of course, it's those like you who sit on the sidelines and cheer them on while they bend the middle class over. It has nothing with what CAN be done, but what WILL be done. Please get it right before posting condescending rhetoric.
This is a great post.
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The storms completely missed us here in College Station, TX, despite having a 60% chance from the NWS and being in a Severe Thunderstorm Watch. Since the beginning of October, we have had only 6.00 inches of rain. That's an average of only an inch per month! I have a feeling that D4 conditions may start showing up soon...

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wow!!! look at all the t.storm poping up now.
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Quoting IFuSAYso:


Mississippi thinks so as well, they have sent all students home.
Intense squall line with pre-frontal super-cells.....Bad combination for a lot of folks...Link
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Quoting atmoaggie:
WHAT!?! You think an industry, any industry, is capable of doing something useful?
(Yes, this is sarcasm, but points out how unhelpful an all-industry-is-terrible-and-only-government-and-p oliticians-should-be-trusted-with-important-things -like-energy outlook really is.)


This inflammatory post is dead wrong. There is no one on here who thinks all industry is terrible and only government and politicians can do anything. There is good and bad in both government and the private sector. You're painting with a big ol' intolerant brush. Let's not confuse things here. Government is capable of doing anything with proper leadership. I'll leave that issue at that.
As for private industry, it's more than capable of doing most anything but the profit / greed motive has slowly eroded the greatness of the private sector. It seems like everything is permeated with incompetence or poor design. This is usually due to cutting corners because of financial concerns. I think if we're going to do something, let's do it right even if it means making a few less dollars.
If a corporation makes $10.2 billion this quarter instead of $10.5 billion but prevented a major environmental disaster or gave their employees a little higher wage or better benefits will the world be a worse place? What the current corporate climate reminds me of is the Grinch. Even after he steals everything out of the house, his long arm reaches out of the fireplace to pluck the last crumb from the floor. Of course, it's those like you who sit on the sidelines and cheer them on while they bend the middle class over. It has nothing to do with what CAN be done, but what WILL be done. Please get it right before posting condescending rhetoric.
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Quoting hydrus:
Everybody is phsychic. Some just dont know it or acknowledge it. And can see what I am thinking...Sarcasm is welcome here. I have a tolerant, easy going attitude while maintaining a lot of respect other peoples thoughts and interests. This squall line is becoming vicious...


Mississippi thinks so as well, they have sent all students home.
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Quoting goosegirl1:


gee, I don't know- case of Monday sarcasm? :) Maybe I'm a Monday physic and I can see what you're thinking...
Everybody is phsychic. Some just dont know it or acknowledge it. And can see what I am thinking...Sarcasm is welcome here. I have a tolerant, easy going attitude while maintaining a lot of respect other peoples thoughts and interests. This squall line is becoming vicious...
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Local Storm Report


04/04/2011 1204 PM

3 miles se of Hopkinsville, Christian County.

Tornado, reported by Emergency Mngr.


Tornado on southeast side of community. The tgask
manufacturing plant directly hit. Several injuries with
widespread debris field. The plant is located between
Hopkinsville and pembrooke.





04/04/2011 1045 am

Hopkinsville, Christian County.

Thunderstorm wind damage, reported by Emergency Mngr.


Time estimated. Widespread damage in the Industrial park
area on the southeast side of community. Numerous
buildings damaged or destroyed. Report of individuals
trapped and injured.
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WTI Crude Oil
$108.30 ▲0.36
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I'm surprised discussion about the nuclear accident has pretty much disappeared. Radiation is being detected around the world, while even our milk supply is beginning to show contamination with I-131 (which first must make it through a cow from the atmosphere). Considering that the isotopes they are testing for decay quickly and are in less quantities to begin with, we have a serious problem here. Where are the plutonium, curium and americium readings and why are they using such a poor tracer isotope? The lying and deceit continues..
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NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Hopkinsville police are reporting storm damage and possible injuries Monday afternoon at a business called Tg Automotive Sealing Kentucky on Frank Yost Boulevard.

Hopkinsville Fire and EMS were investigating reports of tornado touchdown in the area. TGASK manufactures weather sealing components for vehicles and opened in Hopkinsville in 2003.

Todd, Logan and Simpson counties in western Kentucky are under tornado warnings until 1 p.m.

At 12:23 p.m., radar indicated a severe squall line capable of producing brief rain-wrapped tornadoes in addition to widespread straight line wind damage. This dangerous storm was located near gordonsville, moving east at 50 mph.

This storm will also impact Russellville, Cooperstown and Homer, Dennis and Chandlers Chapel, South Union and Auburn.

Several people called 911 saying they spotted a funnel cloud near the intersection of Fort Campbell and Crenshaw BoulevardsLink
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How about the cartels down in the Yucatan!!
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Quoting hydrus:
What was it exactly about my post GooseGirl-11 that caused you to ask a question like that.?...I cannot help but wonder...:)


gee, I don't know- case of Monday sarcasm? :) Maybe I'm a Monday physic and I can see what you're thinking...
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TWC is reporting that some of the cells west of Nashville moving at 80mph.
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Quoting goosegirl1:


If we destroy ourselves, who exactly is left to learn anything from the process? the roaches?
What was it exactly about my post GooseGirl-11 that caused you to ask a question like that.?...I cannot help but wonder...:)
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Quoting Minnemike:
need details on a Mexico getaway deal?? just hook up a fax machine and register the number. Blamo!!! the unwanted travel deal faxes will start pouring in... now back to the exciting/dangerous weather updates.

You don't even need to do that.

Just send me your credit card number and personal info... (just kidding)
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need details on a Mexico getaway deal?? just hook up a fax machine and register the number. Blamo!!! the unwanted travel deal faxes will start pouring in... now back to the exciting/dangerous weather updates.
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Quoting RitaEvac:
I wonder if this is due to the heat island effect, even thought no sun is out today, just happens to blow up over downtown.


Wouldn't shock me, but there is also one popping up over Liberty county at the same time.
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Quoting RitaEvac:
I wonder if this is due to the heat island effect, even thought no sun is out today, just happens to blow up over downtown.



You have mail.
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I wonder if this is due to the heat island effect, even thought no sun is out today, just happens to blow up over downtown.

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Quoting goosegirl1:


If we destroy ourselves, who exactly is left to learn anything from the process? the roaches?

Anyone who survives.
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Quoting IFuSAYso:


It needs a ladder/lumber rack and tool boxes.
I just now saw yer post.lol....I still have to make a livin too...:)
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Quoting hydrus:
This an entirely true, funny and befitting post...I would like to add to this wonderful chunk of truth, but my property is currently getting the stuff beat out of it by what they call " pre-frontal windgusts "..I am battening EVERYTHING down.


If we destroy ourselves, who exactly is left to learn anything from the process? the roaches?
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Quoting hydrus:
I cannot haul building materials with that Jeff..( you coulda put a trailer on da back slacker..) :)

Yes, you can haul building materials with that.
Very slowly.
In small quantities.
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Quoting RitaEvac:


Yea that's an alternative, but I want to go somewhere like the avatar you have, looks like Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic.

Take a 7-day out of Galveston to the Bahamas & Key West. Or you can take a 7-day to Cozumel, Jamaica, and the Cayman Islands.
(Both on Carnival. If you wait until after November or so, you can go on their newest ship, the Carnival Magic)
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Quoting jeffs713:
I cannot haul building materials with that Jeff..( you coulda put a trailer on da back slacker..) :)
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Quoting RitaEvac:


Give me details! Be nice if you could go straight from Houston to the Carribbean, but they don't exist, always gotta stop somewhere to take off again.

You've got WUmail with the details!
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Quoting RastaSteve:


Hey man, take a cruise out of Galveston. That should be fairly inexpensive. You will have to do so soon before they as well institute a fuel surcharge. That will be $10 per day extra.


Yea that's an alternative, but I want to go somewhere like the avatar you have, looks like Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic.
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Quoting RitaEvac:


Give me details! Be nice if you could go straight from Houston to the Carribbean, but they don't exist, always gotta stop somewhere to take off again.


Cancun Should be cheap for you. I would say $400 per person (Airfare). Infact Funjet is running Charters out of IAH to Cancun with great times for June. Check it out!
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Quoting jeffs713:


It needs a ladder/lumber rack and tool boxes.
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Quoting RitaEvac:
I was gonna take a trip to Dominican Republic this summer, a 4 night all inclusive resort for $599 a person. It now turns out that the friggin airfare alone is nearly $1000. The hotel resort all inclusive package is cheap for 4 nights, it's the damn airfare!! and I'm not going now because of it.


Hey man, take a cruise out of Galveston. That should be fairly inexpensive. You will have to do so soon before they as well institute a fuel surcharge. That will be $10 per day extra.
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Quoting jeffs713:
I know of a good resort down by Playa del Carmen that has cheaper airfare (more expensive per night, but you would still come out ahead if taking 2 people).


Give me details! Be nice if you could go straight from Houston to the Carribbean, but they don't exist, always gotta stop somewhere to take off again.
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Impressive already..And it will become even more impressive...
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Quoting hydrus:
I am hoping for a miracle with the gas prices...Almost went bankrupt in 08 because of them.....
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Quoting jeffs713:
How about raising the airfare? Wouldn't that make more sense, since people generally weigh quite a bit more than their bags?


Oh they are raising the airfare and baggage fees. I heard on the news that for every $1 dollar increase it cost the airlines $400 million.
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