Favorable winds over Japan continue; all-time record heat in Mumbai, India

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 1:23 PM GMT on March 17, 2011

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Favorable winds blowing at 10 - 20 mph out of the northwest continue over Tokyo, Japan today, and these winds will take radiation particles emitted by the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant immediately out to sea, without lingering over Japan. The northwesterly winds are blowing in response to the clockwise flow of air around a high pressure system approaching Japan from the southwest. Since high pressure systems are regions of sinking air, the radiation will stay close to the ocean surface over the next day or two as the air spirals clockwise over the Pacific.


Figure 1. Surface weather map for 8am EDT today, taken from the 6-hour forecast from this morning's 6 UTC run of the GFS model. A high pressure system to the southwest of Japan, in combination with a low pressure system to the northeast are driving strong northwesterly surface winds over the country. Image is from our wundermap with the "Model" layer turned on. The lines are sea-level pressure (blue contours, 4 mb interval) and 1000 to 500 mb thickness (yellow contours, 60 m interval). Thickness is a measure of the temperature of the lower atmosphere, and a thickness of 5400 meters is usually close to where the dividing line between rain and snow occurs.

As the high pressure system moves northeastwards and passes just east of Japan on Saturday, winds will gradually shift to the west and then southwest, keeping the radiation from the Fukushima plant blowing out to sea. As the winds shift to southwesterly, the sinking air over Japan will be replaced by rising air, and radioactive emissions will begin being lifted high in the atmosphere. Since there is less friction aloft, and the high speed winds of jet stream increase as the air moves higher in the atmosphere, this radiation will undergo long-range transport. Latest trajectory runs using NOAA's HYSPLIT model (Figures 2 - 4) show that radioactivity emitted today and Friday could wind up over Alaska and eastern Siberia after five days, and radioactive particles emitted on Saturday could make it to Hawaii and California by late next week. I've made trajectory plots for the next three days assuming two possible release altitudes--a surface-based release near 10 meters, which should be the predominant altitude in the current situation, and a higher release altitude of 300 meters, which might occur if there is an explosion and major fire. However, the 5-day trek to Hawaii and California is 4000 - 5000 miles, and a tremendous amount of dispersion and dilution of the radioactive plume will occur. Given the current levels of radiation being emitted, any radioactivity reaching Hawaii or the U.S. may be difficult to detect, and will not be a threat to human health. Keep in mind also that the most dangerous radionuclide to human health in the radioactive plume--Iodine-131--has a half life of eight days, so will be reduced by at least 30% after 5 days of travel time.

The next period of onshore winds that will blow radioactivity inland over Japan will occur beginning on Saturday night (U.S. time), continuing through Sunday morning, according to the latest run of the GFS model. The latest HYSPLIT trajectories show that regions of Japan north of the disaster site would be most at risk of receiving radioactive fallout on Saturday night. On Sunday and Monday, an approaching low pressure system is expected to bring considerable rain to Japan, and it is uncertain at this time what direction the wind might blow during this rain storm.


Figure 2. Five-day forecast movement of plumes of radioactive air emitted at 10 meters altitude (red line) and 300 meters (blue line) at 18 UTC (2pm EDT) Thursday, March 17, 2011 from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. The plumes initially spiral clockwise around the high pressure system to the southwest of Japan and stay near the surface. By Saturday, though, the plumes get caught in a southwesterly flow of air in advance of an approaching low pressure system. Ascending air lifts the plumes to high altitudes, where winds are stronger and rapid long-range transport occurs. Images created using NOAA's HYSPLIT trajectory model.


Figure 3. Five-day forecast movement of plumes of radioactive air emitted at 10 meters altitude (red line) and 300 meters (blue line) at 18 UTC (2pm EDT) Friday, March 18, 2011 from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. The plumes get caught in a southwesterly flow of air in advance of an approaching low pressure system. The plume emitted near the surface (red line) stays trapped near the surface for 4 days then lifted to 2 km, but the plume emitted at 300 meters is lifted to 5 km altitude after 2 1/2 days by the rising air associated with the approaching low pressure system. Images created using NOAA's HYSPLIT trajectory model.


Figure 4. Five-day forecast movement of plumes of radioactive air emitted at 10 meters altitude (red line) and 300 meters (blue line) at 18 UTC (2pm EDT) Saturday, March 18, 2011 from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. The plumes get caught in a southwesterly flow of air in advance of an approaching low pressure system and lifted to 4 - 5 km altitude. The plume emitted at 10 meters (red line) ends up getting caught in the clockwise circulation of air around a high pressure system situated north of Hawaii, and spirals down towards the surface in the high's sinking air. The plume emitted at higher altitudes (blue line) ends up escaping this high and making it over California at high altitude, getting caught in the southwesterly flow around a low pressure system predicted to affect California next week. Images created using NOAA's HYSPLIT trajectory model.

Resources
Seven-day weather forecast for Sendai near the Fukushima nuclear plant

The Austrian Weather Service is running trajectory models for Japan.

Current radar loops from the Japan Meteorological Agency

Mumbai hits its hottest temperature of all-time
The temperature in Mumbai (formerly Bombay), India skyrocketed to an all-time high of 107°F (41.6°C) yesterday, March 16, at the downtown Colaba observatory. Records at the observatory go back to 1847, which may be the longest time series of temperature observations at any location in Asia. Mumbai's previous all-time record temperature was 105°F (40.6°C) recorded on April 19, 1955. Mumbai's Santacruz Airport, located in the suburbs several miles inland, did not set an all-time high yesterday, hitting 41.3°C (all-time record: 42.2°C on April 14, 1952.) The record heat yesterday was due to an unusually hot and dry northeasterly flow of air from the center of India that kept the usual cooling sea breeze from establishing itself along the coast. Hot weather continued in Mumbai today, with the mercury hitting 102°F (39°C.) Thanks go to weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera for supplying these statistics for me.

Jeff Masters

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Quoting NRAamy:
129. cat5hurricane 8:39 AM PDT on March 17, 2011
Quoting NRAamy:
In other news, our President is on vacation....

nice....
No, I heard he was filling out his NCAA tournament bracket.





cat5.... yeah, that too.... I'm so glad he has the time for those simple pleasures while so many are suffering....


give me a break...George Bush was sipping Lemonade on a front porch with one of his rich buddies while thousands were dying in Katrina...you've got to be kidding with this crap...
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Quoting surfmom:
my two cents with yours.....
we can only hope these catastrophe's will awaken the sheeple to take back control from the Corporations that are slowly poisoning us w/ their profit motivated energy -- these criminals have kept alternative energies out of the hands of the people so they remain in control. FREE CLEAN ENERGY IS HERE (just that the corps have swallowed the patents or threaten the inventors) Provide the world w/clean energy & THE ENTIRE PICTURE WILL CHANGE - I truly believe this day will happen..... and pray this current horrific world experience will open the door.


Everything is about cost efficiency, once it become cost efficient why wouldn't some big wig oil company come in and by clean energy if it will make them millions? Everything that is not widely used, isnt used because it is not as cost efficient once it is, itll grow and grow and grow.
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Quoting NRAamy:
In other news, our President is on vacation....

nice....
            They showed on T.V. his bracket picks for NCAA basketball tourney!  We can all be happy about that at least.
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Quoting surfmom:
per hubby here in SWFL - NADA to worry about

I agree, just wondering what it reads.

They could have geiger counter readings as part of the Wundermaps. It would be educational I think. Of course, the trolls would ruin it.
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Quoting NRAamy:
In other news, our President is on vacation....

nice....


his bracket was sweet though, looked just like mine.
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129. cat5hurricane 8:39 AM PDT on March 17, 2011
Quoting NRAamy:
In other news, our President is on vacation....

nice....
No, I heard he was filling out his NCAA tournament bracket.





cat5.... yeah, that too.... I'm so glad he has the time for those simple pleasures while so many are suffering....
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Quoting goosegirl1:


Both you and Nea have hit it square on- it's all about the money. When green energy becomes profitable, the money will flow in that direction. One of the best investments our government could make would be to fund research in alternatives to fossil fuels. Can anyone else hear the laughter in the background??

Our entire economy is based upon the free flow of cheap oil. Everything we eat, wear, drink, or live in depends upon it. If (when) oil becomes scarce and is no longer so "cheap and easy", the US may suddenly face an economic crisis of unprecidented proportions. When we can longer depend on inexpensive produce trucked from California to Maine, or clothing produced in China and shipped to your local WalMall, maybe then the money will be used for alternative green energy. (but don't depend upon it until then. The government will be reactive, not proactive).

All this cynicisn is brought to you by a native of a state whose economy depends upon coal, and the lives of the men who mine it. Pretty sad, yes? Visit a mine that has blasted off the top of a mountain in the name of cheap electricity and you, too can be grouch in the name of green energy :)


Just be patient and let technology progress, the cheapest thing will always be the most consumed thing. It's just the laws of the free market. Eventually technology will catch up and other things will be cleaner and cheaper than gas, and they will be the most widely used. Just from advancements in technology, look how much cleaner we are than 30 years ago, and how much cleaner 30 years ago than it was 60 years ago. Technology will continue to progress, and things will continue to become cleaner and more efficient.
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Quoting surfmom:
my two cents with yours.....
we can only hope these catastrophe's will awaken the sheeple to take back control from the Corporations that are slowly poisoning us w/ their profit motivated energy -- these criminals have kept alternative energies out of the hands of the people so they remain in control. FREE CLEAN ENERGY IS HERE (just that the corps have swallowed the patents or threaten the inventors) Provide the world w/clean energy & THE ENTIRE PICTURE WILL CHANGE - I truly believe this day will happen..... and pray this current horrific world experience will open the door.


I appreciate your sentiments and feel the same way. I always think those same thoughts. Maybe this time it'll wake us up...but then it never does. I don't know that anything can overcome the entrenchment of corporations and lobbyists in our government and political system. When we have hundreds of billions in unnecessary corporate subsidies and a bloated defense budget but we're focused on defunding Planned Parenthood and NPR instead of trying to create jobs or go after Seniors medical benefits and heating oil for the poor...well, I think that says it all...
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Quoting bappit:

Just curious ... what is the reading on it?
per hubby here in SWFL - NADA to worry about
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Corporate greed, greed itself, government control, people that are sheep and clueless, and only care about their little bubble and entertainment and entertaining themselves.........

It's all coming to catch up with all of us, and as an innocent person I might just enjoy watching those folks crash and burn as the time comes.
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Quoting hydrus:
This post absolutely wreaks with truth and wisdom...Which is also priceless in my book.

It sounded like socialism. Just saying.
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In other news, our President is on vacation....

nice....
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Quoting VAbeachhurricanes:
In other news, the white house is asking the UN to approve military strikes against Qaddafi's regime.
Just what we need right now is another war, even though im sure this one would be quick, the people are actually willing to fight with us.
Oh yeah...Lets spend another trillion dollars because some nut job...
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Quoting hurricanejunky:


Absolutely...I should have included anger as well. There is nothing we can do though. Money interests far outweigh anything us peons can do...or should I say WILL do...
lighting a candle....perhaps~
THE TIMES THEY ARE A CHANGING
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Quoting surfmom:
better hurry, rumour has it they're flying off the shelves ...LOL
( I actually have one already - never trusted the gov. for the truth, there's a Nuke Plant to the north of me and one directly 'cross the state)

Just curious ... what is the reading on it?
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Quoting hurricanejunky:


By removing the lobbyists from everything. If we had the monetary and political will we could implement a diverse energy portfolio that includes solar, wind, tidal and geothermal just to name a few. And as much as anyone wants to deny it, we would create whole new industries along with millions of jobs. It's undeniable. It's really not that hard, it just seems that way because of all the unnecessary obstacles. I'm sure Jim will go far beyond my brief synopsis but I felt like putting in my 2 cents.


Both you and Nea have hit it square on- it's all about the money. When green energy becomes profitable, the money will flow in that direction. One of the best investments our government could make would be to fund research in alternatives to fossil fuels. Can anyone else hear the laughter in the background??

Our entire economy is based upon the free flow of cheap oil. Everything we eat, wear, drink, or live in depends upon it. If (when) oil becomes scarce and is no longer so "cheap and easy", the US may suddenly face an economic crisis of unprecidented proportions. When we can longer depend on inexpensive produce trucked from California to Maine, or clothing produced in China and shipped to your local WalMall, maybe then the money will be used for alternative green energy. (but don't depend upon it until then. The government will be reactive, not proactive).

All this cynicisn is brought to you by a native of a state whose economy depends upon coal, and the lives of the men who mine it. Pretty sad, yes? Visit a mine that has blasted off the top of a mountain in the name of cheap electricity and you, too can be grouch in the name of green energy :)
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In other news, the white house is asking the UN to approve military strikes against Qaddafi's regime.
Just what we need right now is another war, even though im sure this one would be quick, the people are actually willing to fight with us.
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Quoting hydrus:
Sarcasm is at the very least warranted. These kind of things really make me angry. I never talk about me feelings. But I am really P*&^ed...I always feel pain in my heart when I see innocent people suffer. Then I get angry. I hope you can understand this.


Absolutely...I should have included anger as well. There is nothing we can do though. Money interests far outweigh anything us peons can do...or should I say WILL do...
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The danger involves a simple Fratricide scenario now,,as one reactor goes up in A Zirconium Fire,,and the Rads go off scale,,no one will be able to approach the facility and the fall back order will come.

Then the situ will spiral outta the "perceived control"..which is null to zero at present
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I'm not interestd in your point... I was making my own....
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Quoting hurricanejunky:


Wow I can't believe how badly you missed the point which was that much human suffering could be prevented if only the money grubbers had an ounce of empathy for their fellow man. As with most man made disasters, an ounce of prevention is priceless. If things were done RIGHT on the front end then the suffering wouldn't occur on the back end because a crisis wouldn't exist. Jeez...
This post absolutely wreaks with truth and wisdom...Which is also priceless in my book.
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Quoting hurricanejunky:


Wow I can't believe how badly you missed the point which was that much human suffering could be prevented if only the money grubbers had an ounce of empathy for their fellow man. As with most man made disasters, an ounce of prevention is priceless. If things were done RIGHT on the front end then the suffering wouldn't occur on the back end because a crisis wouldn't exist. Jeez...

Precisely. An "Act of God is" one thing; an act of greed is something entirely different, and not to be excused.
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Quoting surfmom:
same w/BP now that they've trashed a good portion of the Gulf of Mexico.... hey -- you know they want to turn that into a disneyworld of OIL refinery & drilling.

The Privileged in Japan will be able to move or even leave.... but the PEOPLE, like those of us in the Gulf are left behind to inhale -


Yeah, what you said!

Thanks for the BP tie in! It's very fitting and worth noting. I don't see any mega rich people stepping up to offer resources. It always seems the government is on the hook...where is the private sector now?
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Quoting Patrap:
Im sure one can pick up a Geiger counter in the Publix Hardware section.
better hurry, rumour has it they're flying off the shelves ...LOL
( I actually have one already - never trusted the gov. for the truth, there's a Nuke Plant to the north of me and one directly 'cross the state)
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P451- it's not over yet
it can't be
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Quoting Floodman:


I don't know man...even Jerry Lewis couldn't stay in character THAT long.

Sure he could...so long as he kept getting the attention he so desperately craved. DFTMFT.
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Quoting NRAamy:
empathy has nothing to do with it... it's just the way life is... and life sucks sometimes... Life doesn't care who you are.... everyone eats it at some point....

do I want people to suffer? duh, no....

will they suffer? as long as people exist....

but, they will inherit the earth...and will find mercy....



Wow I can't believe how badly you missed the point which was that much human suffering could be prevented if only the money grubbers had an ounce of empathy for their fellow man. As with most man made disasters, an ounce of prevention is priceless. If things were done RIGHT on the front end then the suffering wouldn't occur on the back end because a crisis wouldn't exist. Jeez...
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Quoting hurricanejunky:


But TEPCO will meet their profit quota...that's the important thing. HEAVY SARCASM ALERT.
same w/BP now that they've trashed a good portion of the Gulf of Mexico.... hey -- you know they want to turn that into a disneyworld of OIL refinery & drilling.

The Privileged in Japan will be able to move or even leave.... but the PEOPLE, like those of us in the Gulf are left behind to inhale -
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Quoting Floodman:


LOL...I think you maybe hanging out with me too much
I actually enjoy hangin out with you and several others on here. I have gained superb knowledge from this blog and intend to keep it up for years to come...:)
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Hope for missing fades in Japan; elderly hard-hit

(AP) – 6 hours ago



RIKUZENTAKATA, Japan (AP) — The elderly couple fled their home on foot as the warning sirens blared. But they could not keep up with their neighbors and fell behind as the tsunami rushed in.

Nearly a week later, 71-year-old Taeko Kanno and her husband are still missing.

"I think there is no hope," said Katsuo Maiya, Kanno's brother-in-law. "I can't find them. The only thing I can do is wait until the military collects their bodies."

As retrieving bodies increasingly becomes the focus of rescue crews in Japan's northeast, it's clear that Friday's earthquake and tsunami — believed to have killed more than 10,000 — took their heaviest toll on the elderly in this rapidly aging nation, where nearly one in four people is over 65.

Many, unable to flee, perished. Survivors lost their daily medicines. Hospitals lost power and water. Sometimes, the consequences have been fatal.

Friday's twin disasters also crippled a nuclear power plant in the northeast, adding to the region's woes. Fourteen older patients died after being moved to a temporary shelter in a school gym because their hospital was in the evacuation zone near the overheating plant.

Two of the patients died in transit Monday and 12 more at the gym, said Chuei Inamura, a Fukushima government official. It took until Thursday to get all the remaining patients into other hospitals.

"We feel very helpless and very sorry for them," Inamura said. "The condition at the gymnasium was horrible. No running water, no medicine and very, very little food. We simply did not have the means to provide good care."

At least some international rescue teams ended their efforts Thursday, acknowledging there was little prospect left of finding missing people still alive.

"We have no more tasks," said Pete Stevenson, a firefighter heading Britain's 70-strong team. "The Japanese government have told us they are now moving from search and rescue to the recovery phase."

He insisted their departure wasn't related to any fears of radiation from the troubled Fukushima nuclear plant, which lies about 90 miles (150 kilometers) south.

Japan's relatively large elderly population presents a particular challenge for rescue and relief in what is already a disaster of epic proportions.

About 23 percent of Japan's 127 million people are age 65 or over, nearly double the proportion in the United States.

Japan's rural areas have been in decline for years, and many of the small coastal towns hit hardest by the tsunami had seen an exodus of young people moving to cities for work.

Now the low-lying parts of those towns have been flattened, and as much as half the population in some may have been killed. The official death toll climbed over 5,300 Thursday and is expected to top 10,000.

Kanno, the woman who couldn't keep up with her neighbors, comes from one such town — Rikuzentakata, a port city that was home to 20,000 before the disaster.

When the tsunami surged into Rikuzentakata, her 67-year-old sister Masako Maiya rushed down from her home in the hills with her husband, Katsuo.

They only got as far as a bridge. Down below, they saw the town had become a muddy inland sea.

One of Kanno's neighbors told them she saw Kanno and her husband flee, but the couple was slow and had lagged behind.

For five days, the Maiyas went from morgue to morgue, looking for the Kannos' bodies. On Thursday, they decided to visit the site where their home stood.

"The house should be around here," Masako Maiya said, stopping in front of a pile of splintered wood and mud.

A pained moan escaped from her husband's mouth. "There's nothing," he said, taking off his glasses and wiping tears from his eyes. His wife began to sob too. Still crying, they turned and walked away.

In the town of Kamaishi, American and British rescue teams completed their final sweeps, and Japanese mechanical diggers began the task of clearing collapsed homes, offices and stores.

Crews found more than a dozen bodies, some trapped underneath homes flipped on their roofs, another at the wheel of his overturned car. In three days of searching the battered coast, they found no survivors.

"There are probably dozens of bodies we just can't reach," said Heather Heath, a 38-year old British firefighter. "The water can force people under floorboards and into gaps we can't search. It's such a powerful force."

For survivors, in a still-wintry climate, the battle is to keep the elderly healthy and alive.

A hospital in Tagajo was cleaning off muddy medicine Thursday and trying to keep its 90 patients alive without water or electricity. A large generator and two portable toilets were delivered by the Japanese military.

"We've been told we'll get medicine sometime next week," said Daisuke Toraiwa, a physical therapist at the hospital.

The tsunami killed 47 of the 113 residents at a retirement home in the city of Kesennuma. Those who could escaped to the second floor. But many got wet, and 11 more died over the next two days because of the cold, said owner Morimitsu Inawashida.

Today, the 53 survivors live in a basketball gym, some sitting in wheelchairs with thick blankets wrapped around them. A nurse from a nearby hospital checks their blood pressure. With snow falling outside, kerosene heaters help keep them warm, but Inawashida said the fuel is running out.

"They are alone and under high stress," he said.

At a school turned shelter in the same city, a group of older men and women sat in the large drafty gym, warmed only be a single kerosene heater. A few ointment tubes, bandages and boxes of aspirin and stomach and cold medicines were stacked on a nearby table.

"It's freezing, there are people who are sick and injured," Keiko Endo, a 58-year-old nurse at the shelter, said. "People are mostly putting up with whatever's wrong. We're trying to comfort and help them, but we can't do too much."

Doctors Without Borders, the international assistance group, has seen cases of hypothermia, serious dehydration and respiratory diseases in some shelters, said Eric Ouannes, general director of the group's Japan affiliate. The tsunami washed away many people's medications.

"Some don't remember what they were taking, how much, and what was the exact prescription," he said. "So that makes things a little more complicated."

Despite the hardships, many survivors take heart in the cameraderie of sharing a common fate.

"If everyone's got nothing, everyone's got the same," Isao Nagai, 62, said, standing in a cold junior high school gym in Ofunato. About 150 survivors huddled under blankets. Some dozed, others talked or read the newspaper. "There's a comfort we get from each other. It's simple. We've all got nothing. Not half or some. Nothing."

Kinuyo Kojima, whose house in Ofunato was washed away, agreed.

But, the 65-year-old woman said, "We live like animals." The stench of backed-up toilets has made some retch, and they complain of constipation from the diet of rice and little or nothing else.

"You should have seen us when we got a piece of chicken yesterday," Kojima said Thursday. "We were so excited over a tiny piece of meat. It had been so long."

Mineko Ohira, a 63-year-old nursery school teacher in Ofunato, worries about the elderly, and what will happen when they have to leave the shelters and find themselves bereft of friends, family and homes.

"The country should find a way to help support them," she said.

Stringer reported from Kamaishi, Japan. Associated Press writers Foster Klug in Kesennuma and Ofunato, Japan; Todd Pitman in Kesennuma; Jay Alabaster in Tagajo, Japan; and Margie Mason in Hanoi, Vietnam, contributed to this story.

Copyright © 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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Quoting Floodman:


I think that this one is either

1. 6 years old
2. Purposely acting the fool
3. A lobotomy gone horribly wrong

Leaning hard on 3 about now
Quoting Floodman:


I think that this one is either

1. 6 years old
2. Purposely acting the fool
3. A lobotomy gone horribly wrong

Leaning hard on 3 about now

4. JFV which automatically makes him all three.
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Quoting hydrus:
Not really.


LOL...I think you maybe hanging out with me too much
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Quoting hurricanejunky:


By removing the lobbyists from everything. If we had the monetary and political will we could implement a diverse energy portfolio that includes solar, wind, tidal and geothermal just to name a few. And as much as anyone wants to deny it, we would create whole new industries along with millions of jobs. It's undeniable. It's really not that hard, it just seems that way because of all the unnecessary obstacles. I'm sure Jim will go far beyond my brief synopsis but I felt like putting in my 2 cents.
my two cents with yours.....
we can only hope these catastrophe's will awaken the sheeple to take back control from the Corporations that are slowly poisoning us w/ their profit motivated energy -- these criminals have kept alternative energies out of the hands of the people so they remain in control. FREE CLEAN ENERGY IS HERE (just that the corps have swallowed the patents or threaten the inventors) Provide the world w/clean energy & THE ENTIRE PICTURE WILL CHANGE - I truly believe this day will happen..... and pray this current horrific world experience will open the door.
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Quoting hurricanejunky:


But TEPCO will meet their profit quota...that's the important thing. HEAVY SARCASM ALERT.
Sarcasm is at the very least warranted. These kind of things really make me angry. I never talk about me feelings. But I am really P*&^ed...I always feel pain in my heart when I see innocent people suffer. Then I get angry. I hope you can understand this.
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Quoting MrMixon:
I think he was making a subtle reference to a post from yesterday. Said subtle reference betrays a wit that, to me, suggests we're dealing with option 2 from post 72.


Yes I agree. There's wit when most post here in addition to serious discussion, but then there are those who seemingly spend alot of time concocting wit without contributing anything else. I have been lurking for years here learning all sorts of stuff, but never felt I had anything worthy of posting (and I still don't). Back to lurking....
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Quoting Patrap:
Im sure one can pick up a Geiger counter in the Publix Hardware section.


Not now but once our resident bagboy gets his promo to Grocery Manager - you betcha!
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Quoting MrMixon:


I think he was making a subtle reference to a post from yesterday. Said subtle reference betrays a wit that, to me, suggests we're dealing with option 2 from post 72.



I don't know man...even Jerry Lewis couldn't stay in character THAT long.
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Im not sure what they going to run in the way of recirculating Pumps in the 2 Units damaged severely..

The electrical Line story is just a stall tactic in my view.
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empathy has nothing to do with it... it's just the way life is... and life sucks sometimes... Life doesn't care who you are.... everyone eats it at some point....

do I want people to suffer? duh, no....

will they suffer? as long as people exist....

but, they will inherit the earth...and will find mercy....

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FUBAR indeed. Last night i read that the electric line was nearly complete and would be tested as soon as possible. Just now i heard on the NHK site (thanks for the link Pat!) that the line will not be complete until Friday, and that the electric project was delayed due to the spraying operations. Seems to me that restoring power should be the #1 priority, even if it will only help reactors 1 and 2 (maybe).

Still, you have to keep hoping for the best!

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Im sure one can pick up a Geiger counter in the Publix Hardware section.
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Quoting Floodman:


Ummm, sorry...my coffee hasn't had a chance to really kick in and I tend to get nasty. That was a pretty crappy post huh?
Not really.
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Quoting PTXer:


I wonder how much he paid for that app..... :) .... soon everyone will want one.


ROFLMAO
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Oooo! Ooo!
(waves hand wildly in back of classroom)

can we get a geiger counter for the blog? huh? can we??
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Quoting Floodman:


Yes, I remember when the plants were being built thinking that this may not be a good idea...but then, we had or were in the middle of building plants adjacent to the LA basin and up the west coast along the most famous fault line and fracture system in the world; we worry about now, typically and not about tomorrow
As always, MONEY takes precedence over everything else. Including the lives of men, women, children, animals ect....
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Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.