Favorable winds over Japan carrying radioactivity out to sea

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:16 PM GMT on March 16, 2011

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If there is going to be a major nuclear disaster with massive release of radioactivity into the atmosphere from Japan's stricken Fukushima nuclear plant, today would be the best day meteorologically for this to occur. The low pressure system that brought rain and several inches of snow to Japan yesterday has moved northeastwards out to sea, and high pressure is building in. The clockwise flow of air around the high pressure system approaching Japan from the southwest is driving strong northwesterly winds of 10 - 20 mph over the region. These winds will continue through Thursday, and will take radiation particles emitted by the stricken reactors immediately out to sea, without lingering over Japan. Since high pressure systems are regions of sinking air, the radiation will stay close to the ocean surface as the air spirals clockwise over the Pacific. The contaminated air will remain over the ocean for at least five days, which is plenty of time for the radiation to settle out to the surface.


Figure 1. Surface weather map for 8am EDT today, taken from the 6-hour forecast from this morning's 6 UTC run of the GFS model. A high pressure system to the southwest of Japan, in combination with a low pressure system to the northeast are driving strong northwesterly surface winds over the country. Image is from our wundermap with the "Model" layer turned on. The lines are sea-level pressure (blue contours, 4 mb interval) and 1000 to 500 mb thickness (yellow contours, 60 m interval). Thickness is a measure of the temperature of the lower atmosphere, and a thickness of 5400 meters is usually close to where the dividing line between rain and snow occurs.

Thursday night and Friday morning (U.S. time), the high pressure system moves over Japan, allowing winds to weaken and potentially grow calm, increasing the danger of radioactivity building up over regions near and to the north of the nuclear plant. On Friday, the high departs and a moist southwesterly flow of air will affect Japan. These southwesterly winds will blow most of the radiation out to sea, away from Tokyo. Southwesterly winds will continue through Sunday, when the next major low pressure system is expected to bring heavy precipitation to the country. Beginning Thursday night, the sinking airmass over Japan will be replaced a large-scale area of rising air, and any radiation emitted late Thursday through Friday will be carried aloft towards Alaska and eastern Russia by this southwesterly flow of rising air.

Ground-level releases of radioactivity are typically not able to be transported long distances in significant quantities, since most of the material settles to the ground a few kilometers from the source. If there is a major explosion with hot gases that shoots radioactivity several hundred meters high, that would increase the chances for long range transport, since now the ground is farther away, and the particles that start settling out will stay in the air longer before encountering the ground. Additionally, winds are stronger away from ground, due to reduced friction and presence of the jet stream aloft. These stronger winds will transport radioactivity greater distances. I've made trajectory plots for the next three days assuming two possible release altitudes--a surface-based release near 10 meters, which should be the predominant altitude in the current situation, and a higher release altitude of 300 meters, which might occur from an explosion and fire from a Chernobyl-style incident. Given that the radioactivity has to travel 3000 miles to reach Anchorage, Alaska, and 5000 miles to reach California, a very large amount of dilution will occur, along with potential loss due to rain-out. Any radiation at current levels of emission that might reach these places may not even be detectable, much less be a threat to human health. A Chernobyl-level disaster in Japan would certainly be able to produce detectable levels of radiation over North America, but I strongly doubt it would be a significant concern for human health. The Chernobyl disaster only caused dangerous human health impacts within a few hundred miles of the disaster site, and the distance from Japan to North America is ten times farther than that.


Figure 2. Five-day forecast movement of plumes of radioactive air emitted at 10 meters altitude (red line) and 300 meters (blue line) at 18 UTC (2pm EDT) Wednesday, March 16, 2011 from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. The plumes spiral clockwise around the high pressure system to the southwest of Japan and stay near the surface. Images created using NOAA's HYSPLIT trajectory model.


Figure 3. Five-day forecast movement of plumes of radioactive air emitted at 10 meters altitude (red line) and 300 meters (blue line) at 18 UTC (2pm EDT) Thursday, March 17, 2011 from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. The plumes initially spiral clockwise around the high pressure system to the southwest of Japan and stay near the surface. By Saturday, though, the plumes get caught in a southwesterly flow of air in advance of an approaching low pressure system. Ascending air lifts the plumes to high altitudes, where winds are stronger and rapid long-range transport occurs. Images created using NOAA's HYSPLIT trajectory model.


Figure 4. Five-day forecast movement of plumes of radioactive air emitted at 10 meters altitude (red line) and 300 meters (blue line) at 18 UTC (2pm EDT) Friday, March 18, 2011 from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. The plumes get caught in a southwesterly flow of air in advance of an approaching low pressure system. The plume emitted near the surface (red line) stays trapped near the surface, but the plume emitted at 300 meters is lifted to 3.5 km altitude by the rising air associated with the approaching low pressure system. Images created using NOAA's HYSPLIT trajectory model.

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Seven-day weather forecast for Sendai near the Fukushima nuclear plant

The Austrian Weather Service is running trajectory models for Japan.

Current radar loops from the Japan Meteorological Agency

Rare subtropical cyclone forms near Brazil
An unusual low pressure system that came close to becoming a tropical storm is in the South Atlantic, a few hundred miles east of the coast of Brazil. The Brazilian Navy Hydrographic Center has officially named the system Subtropical Storm "Arani", but I'm not sure the low would have been named by NHC, since Arani has somewhat of a loose circulation and limited heavy thunderstorm activity. The storm is expected to move slowly eastward out to sea, and does not pose a threat to South America. The latest run of the GFDL model shows little development of Arani, and the storm is now encountering a frontal system, which is bringing 20 - 30 knots of wind shear. It is unlikely that Arani will become a tropical storm. Some runs of the GFDL last weekend were predicting Arani would intensify into a Category 3 hurricane; that's the first time I've even seen such a prediction for a South Atlantic storm. The metsul.com blog has more info on Arani, for those of you who read Portugese.


Figure 5. During the daytime on Tuesday 15 March 2011 at 1820 UTC the TRMM satellite flew over a rare cyclone labeled Arani in the South Atlantic. Arani had the appearance of a tropical cyclone but has been classified as a subtropical cyclone. NOAA's Satellite and Information Service classified Arani as a T1 on the Dvorak intensity scale which would indicate an estimated wind speed of about 29 kt (~33 mph). TRMM's Microwave Imager (TMI) and Precipitation Radar (PR) data were used in the image above to show rainfall near Arani. Image credit: NASA.

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Read what Xyrus2000 said, not what you want to think he said.

"The high energy beta radiation from I-131 causes it to be the most carcinogenic of the iodine isotopes, and it is thought to cause the majority of the excess in thyroid cancers seen after nuclear fission contamination (such as bomb fallout or severe nuclear reactor accidents...)"

"Strontium-90...undergoes [beta] decay...
...Strontium-90 is a 'bone seeker'...Its presence in bones can cause bone cancer, cancer of nearby tissues, and leukemia."

Cs-134 "Cesium-134...Mode of decay: Beta to Ba-134"

"Cesium-137 decays by beta emission...
...As of 2005, cesium-137 is the principal source of radiation in the zone of alienation around the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Together with cesium-134, iodine-131, and strontium-90, cesium-137 was among the isotopes with greatest health impact distributed by the reactor explosion."

Now how the heck does that show pro-nuclear bias???
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Perhaps we as a community can help. Contact with friends in Tokyo indicates the government is doing everything possible to maintain calm, i.e. downplaying the situation. Jeff and all you members at Wunderblog are great at analyzing weather trends etc. What is crucial now is to help people there minimize their risks.

It would be great to have a rough weather picture over then next two to three weeks, including likely wind directions, precipitation expectations, etc.

A 2007 UN estimate puts the population of Tokyo Metropolitan Area at 35,676,000, making it the world's most populous metropolitan area by far. The northern provinces of Tokyo Metro Area are about 120 miles away from the Fukushima plant.

Hopefully the authorities will get lucky and be able to keep the reactors cooled. But if not, we might be looking at a full meltdown situation of one or several reactors and/or continued overheating and "burning" of the "spent" fuel rods. In consequence the release of quite high levels of a wide variety of highly radioactive materials into the air above the plant over a period of weeks, not just days.

Hopefully the authorities would be able to encapsulate or bury the sources within a few weeks, but until they are able to do so, this radioactivity would pose a catastrophic immediate danger to this metropolitan area. Depending on the weather.

Based on personal experience in Europe following Chernobyl, weather conditions, precipitation and wind strongly determine how much radioactive materials are deposited when and where.

So how does it look for the next few weeks? What are good sources for forecasts and in-depth short and longer-term weather analysis for the island of Japan and Tokyo Metro in particular??
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763. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
Mauritius Meteorological Services
Tropical Disturbance Advisory #9
DEPRESSION TROPICALE 07-20102011
10:00 AM RET March 17 2011
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At 6:00 AM UTC, Tropical Depression 7 (998 hPa) located at 14.5S 76.4E has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots with gusts of 45 knots. The depression is reported as moving west southwest at 12 knots.

Near Gale Force Winds
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20 NM from the center in southern semi-circle

Dvorak Intensity: T2.5/2.5/D0.5/12 HRS

Forecast and Intensity
======================
12 HRS: 15.1S 74.4E - 35 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modereé)
24 HRS: 15.6S 72.4E - 40 knots (Tempête Tropicale Modereé)
48 HRS: 17.4S 68.2E - 55 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)
72 HRS: 20.5S 63.2E - 60 knots (Forte Tempête Tropicale)

Additional Information
=====================

Deep convective activity has reorganized closer to the center since last night. Conditions are becoming more favorable. Low level inflow is good on both sides, vertical wind shear has weakened and should become less constraining in relationship with the globally westward motion of the system in the same direction than upper level winds. An upper level outflow exists poleward but none is expected to build equatorward. System has now a favorable window for intensification of 2-3 days. Beyond, it should again undergo a strengthening vertical wind shear ahead of a strong mid latitude trough. Numerical Weather Prediction models are in very good agreement for a track west southwestward on the northern edge of the low to mid levels subtropical ridge.

The next tropical cyclone advisory from Mauritius Meteorological Services will be issued at 12:30 PM UTC..
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Quoting sunlinepr:


Boiling Nuclear Superheater Rincon, PR

The decommissioned Boiling Nuclear Superheater (BONUS) reactor was developed as a prototype nuclear power plant to investigate the technical and economic feasibility of the integral boiling-superheating concept. This small-scale nuclear reactor produced saturated steam in the central portion of the reactor core, superheated it in four surrounding superheater sections of the same core, and then used the superheated steam in a direct loop to drive a turbine generator. It was one of only two boiling-water superheater reactors ever developed in the United States. The reactor was designed to be large enough to evaluate the major features of the integral boiling-superheating concept realistically without the high construction and operating costs associated with a large plant. Construction of the began in 1960 through a combined effort of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission and Puerto Rico Water Resources Authority. The reactor first achieved a controlled nuclear chain reaction on April 13, 1964. It underwent a series of criticality tests and then was operated experimentally at various power levels, first as a boiler and later as an integral boiler-superheater. Operation at full power (50 megawatts of thermal energy) and full temperature (900 F [482 C] steam) was achieved in September 1965, and tests demonstrated satisfactory operation at 10 percent over power in November 1965. Operation of the BONUS reactor was terminated in June 1968 because of technical difficulties and the ensuing need for high-cost modifications. The Puerto Rico Water Resources Authority decommissioned the reactor between 1969 and 1970.

The fuel and control rods were returned to the United States for disposal. The remainder of the radioactive material was either decontaminated on site or placed into the core which was then entombed in concrete. Additional cleanup and shielding was completed in the 1990s and 2000s. A museum is planned for the main floor of the facility.

One of the most popular Surfing beaches in Rincon, lies just in the shoreline of the Bonus Plant. Surfers call it Domes beach...

I saw this when I visited PR back in 2000. I know they say the danger is gone, but I took pics from a distance.... lol.... seriously, though, people seem quite gung ho to build reactors in places where seismic activity has been known to take place. I guess in the 1960s the potential impacts of earthquakes on reactors wasn't seriously considered....
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Quoting Xyrus2000:


Nuclear bombs are NOT clean radiation sources and produce a slew of deadly highly radioactive/highly toxic elements due to incomplete nuclear reactions. Ask the natives who we're still getting poisoned and radiation sickness years and decades after the nuclear detonations that took place at Bikini.

Alpha is not the deadliest form of radiation, inside or outside the body. The more energetic the radiation, the more damage it can do. Period.

The reason why some alpha emitters can do significant damage is because they are capable or replacing key elements in our biological processes, thus they remain in the body for extended periods of time. Some also double as poisons, which can inflict additional damage.

It's not just the amount of radiation, but the amount of time you're exposed to it.

Also, fresh fission byproducts are almost entirely beta and gamma emitters with short half lives (highly radioactive). You can check this yourself by searching for decay chains for nuclear wastes. Cesium 137-135, Iodine 131-129, and Strontium 90, which make up the bulk, are all beta/gamma emitters. Alpha radiation would come from unspent fuel rods, such as from Pu 239 or from progressively decayed wastes in older spent fuel rods.

Lol you have such a clear bias toward nuclear power.

After such a disaster like the current one and the potential for future ones of equal or greater magnitude one realizes nuclear energy is a foolish choice.
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Quoting alfabob:
For those who were comparing nuclear bomb testing to the meltdowns; well it turns out that the radiation from the plants is more dangerous, decays over a longer range of time, and has a higher probability of contaminating the food chain.

There is also a large difference between the types of radiation depending on how a person is exposed to it. For example alpha radiation is less dangerous externally to the body, while internally becomes the most dangerous. Tobacco products contain polonium due to the soil used, which also decays via alpha radiation; and obviously this product is linked to cancer due to this addition. On the other hand, cancer may still be caused by other forms of radiation; but it is less likely. The particles simply do not have enough energy to fully penetrate cells and do DNA damage (unless it is a biologically active compound which is taken up into the cells).

So in essence high concentrations of alpha emitting particles from these reactors will be more likely to do biological damage rather than a clean nuclear bomb. In fact most of the nuclear chains involve many alpha decays over long periods of time.

And yes spent fuel rods can get hot enough to melt down. The rate though depends on how "fresh" they are. Also remember that reactor 4 has non-spent fuel rods in a container solely for spent fuel rods.


Nuclear bombs are NOT clean radiation sources and produce a slew of deadly highly radioactive/highly toxic elements due to incomplete nuclear reactions. Ask the natives who we're still getting poisoned and radiation sickness years and decades after the nuclear detonations that took place at Bikini.

Alpha is not the deadliest form of radiation, inside or outside the body. The more energetic the radiation, the more damage it can do. Period.

The reason why some alpha emitters can do significant damage is because they are capable or replacing key elements in our biological processes, thus they remain in the body for extended periods of time. Some also double as poisons, which can inflict additional damage.

It's not just the amount of radiation, but the amount of time you're exposed to it.

Also, fresh fission byproducts are almost entirely beta and gamma emitters with short half lives (highly radioactive). You can check this yourself by searching for decay chains for nuclear wastes. Cesium 137-135, Iodine 131-129, and Strontium 90, which make up the bulk, are all beta/gamma emitters. Alpha radiation would come from unspent fuel rods, such as from Pu 239 or from progressively decayed wastes in older spent fuel rods.
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Quoting Skyepony:


It claims to be better than the hysplit and several others. Mostly Based off the ecmwf, but could be run on different models, giving advantage to the ones preforming best at the time. It's a model though so any shift in that incoming weather would change the path. That one runs a full day, I think off what was observed the day before so you have to keep each day's run in mind for a cumulative. This model is a little slower, same general direction. There's another that New york times got a hold of, posted earlier that looked even worse for you, so there is some model agreement. The general outlook went from no effect to US to we're putting out some more sensors.

Yea figures the storm track would come all the way down to San Diego at the worst moment possible.

Hopefully it isn't anything that posses any threat to our health.
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Quoting JFLORIDA:
Mizuho Bank%u2019s ATMs have stopped working

Mizuho, the second-largest financial services company in Japan, has blocked its customers from accessing cash.


I wonder what that is about. nothing i guess now - UPDATE 3-Mizuho says ATMs back up after nationwide shutdown


Out of money in the Bank! I'm sure Banks are having a problem getting deposits for cash flow and getting Central Bank Deliveries for their daily activites. ATM have NO money to despense!
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going to bed! Mighty sad to think of the many people in Japan that have no bed to sleep! I would give my wonderful bed over to someone in Japan if i could. I have 2 spare bedrooms if anyone from Japan needs a place to come too. So sorry, for those people!
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752. Skyepony (Mod)
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0454: Radiation level unchanged despite choppers dousing reactor - Kyodo, quoting Tepco.
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0536: The Japanese crisis has sparked panic-buying of iodine pills, with online bids exceeding $500 for one packet, AFP reports. "It is crazy, people have been reading about the situation in Japan and they are demanding iodine tablets, but most pharmacies don't stock the tablets," said Paul Ho, a pharmacist in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Read our Q&A on the health effects of exposure to radiation.
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749. xcool
back later bye for noww.
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748. xcool


Neutral
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NHK news reported as follows:
To deal with the situation of water level low at the spent fuel pools at unit-3 and
unit-4, the Self Defense Force started operation for filling the pool with water in
09:48 of March 16. This operation is to drop a huge bucket of seawater from a
helicopter. A lead plate is installed at the bottom of the helicopter to shield
radiation and crew member wears radiation protection suits.



Pretty bad to go to this degree
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Quoting EYEStoSEA:


LOLOL....that is one large remote !









lol. I'm not going to look.

Loading images from your computer to an image storage like photobucket works well. Unless they qualify as wunderphotos and you want to upload them to wu.
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Quoting Orcasystems:


It was the plant in Eureka.


Oh. Kalama's on Columbia River heading into Portland. And it was closed early because of a crack-according to that link. I just remember seeing it many times-the eerie cooling tower. Gone now, though.

Eureka makes more sense if a fault was involved.

Do you know if Vanuatu is on the edge of the Pacific plate? I can go look I guess. The only thing that clicks with Vanuatu in my head is Kirk Douglas and John Wayne in an old movie called In Harm's Way.
:)
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Quoting TomTaylor:
Does anybody know how valid this image below is?






I took it from here and I am quite concerned because I live in San Diego and this animation shows it going right over us.


It claims to be better than the hysplit and several others. Mostly Based off the ecmwf, but could be run on different models, giving advantage to the ones preforming best at the time. It's a model though so any shift in that incoming weather would change the path. That one runs a full day, I think off what was observed the day before so you have to keep each day's run in mind for a cumulative. This model is a little slower, same general direction. There's another that New york times got a hold of, posted earlier that looked even worse for you, so there is some model agreement. The general outlook went from no effect to US to we're putting out some more sensors.
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Quoting Grothar:

What is that measuring and how much does each color represent?
Quoting Grothar:



The levels are expected to be very low.

well that's good news...
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Far be it from me to mess wit' ya, Grothar. Ah ain't that brave.
I get the heebie-jeebies thinkin' about folks droppin' ferrets down their trousers.
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Quoting EYEStoSEA:
Off subject...but.. how do you post an image from a pic you haved saved on your pc to here?


Hiya Eyes - you'll need to upload the image to your account on WU, or to a free web hosting site, like ImageShack or FreeImageHosting.
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Quoting TomTaylor:
Does anybody know how valid this image below is?






I took it from here and I am quite concerned because I live in San Diego and this animation shows it going right over us.



The levels are expected to be very low.
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A gas station worker talks to fuel-seeking drivers who stayed overnight in front of the station despite a sold-out notice in Ichinoseki, northern Japan early Thursday, March 17


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Quoting Barefootontherocks:


Kalama, south of Longview and north of Vancouver, WA

Perhaps.


It was the plant in Eureka.
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Does anybody know how valid this image below is?






I took it from here and I am quite concerned because I live in San Diego and this animation shows it going right over us.
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NBC News and msnbc.com
updated 16 minutes ago 2011-03-17T04:39:55
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The Obama administration has authorized the first evacuations of Americans out of Japan, and said it will charter aircraft to help U.S. citizens wishing to escape elevated radiation levels in the country.

Japan earthquake US nuke plants ranked by quake risk .
Updated 79 minutes ago 3/17/2011 3:36:41 AM +00:00 U.S. raises alarm over Japan nuclear crisis
NYT: 50 workers bravely stay at troubled Japan reactors
Cosmic Log: If there's a meltdown, then what?
Japan crisis could squeeze world auto production
Updated 103 minutes ago 3/17/2011 3:13:30 AM +00:00 Understanding the conern about spent fuel pools .
Time-lapse of aftershocks .
Updated 79 minutes ago 3/17/2011 3:37:22 AM +00:00 Images of chaos, destruction .
..The State Department late Wednesday issued a warning to Americans to avoid travel to Japan and said U.S. citizens in the country should consider leaving. Its authorized departure offers a voluntary evacuation to family members and dependents of U.S. personnel in Tokyo and Yokohama and affects some 600 people.

Senior State Department official Patrick Kennedy said the chartered planes would help private American citizens wishing to leave.

He said people faced less risk in southern Japan, but warned that changing weather and wind conditions could raise radiation levels elsewhere in the coming days.

Dependents have not been ordered to leave, but if they choose to the State Department bears the expense of their transportation, NBC News reported.

"This is the lowest step on our hierarchy," Undersecretary for Management Pat Kennedy said on a conference call late Wednesday.

A message from U.S. Ambassador John Roos on Thursday urged "as a precuation" that American citizens who live within 50 miles (80 kilometers) of the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant to evacuate the area or to take shelter indoors if safe evacuation is not practical.

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Quoting Grothar:


No, I found it.



lol
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I am calling it a night as well. Four hours of sleep per night over the past few nights are taking its toll on me now.

I hope that tomorrow brings much better news for Japan. They are due for a serious break from the action.

Everyone, stay safe.

Thank you, for allowing me to intrude.
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Quoting Orcasystems:


Not sure.. looking.. I remember I was on the ship when we went past it, so it has to be on a river or right on the coast. I "think" it was on our way upriver to Sacramento, or maybe Portland...


Kalama, south of Longview and north of Vancouver, WA

Perhaps.
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Quoting aspectre:
Grothar "Don't fret none. I've seen hundreds of those 19 years moons over the years. They don't do anything but light up the pool."

714 TampaSpin "Just had a horrible image of you skinny dippin' every 19years..."

Never happened. Why'dja think that Grothar hadda wrestle them sabertooths in his loin cloth?
If he'd just let 'em out for air, they wouldna gone xstinked.


Yo, I thought you were my buddy. I sorta miss those loin cloths. Stonemart used to have sales on them all the time.
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Quoting Grothar:


It's always good to go to sleep with a smile. Take care guys. I may have to drop out before I drop down. Watching all these horrible stories and images makes one a little depressed.


GoodNight!.....sleep well.:)
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Quoting EYEStoSEA:
Lawdy, Lawdy........lol.....


It's always good to go to sleep with a smile. Take care guys. I may have to drop out before I drop down. Watching all these horrible stories and images makes one a little depressed.
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Grothar "Don't fret none. I've seen hundreds of those 19 years moons over the years. They don't do anything but light up the pool."

714 TampaSpin "Just had a horrible image of you skinny dippin' every 19years..."

Never happened. Why'dja think that Grothar hadda wrestle them sabertooths in his loin cloth?
If he'd just let 'em out for air, they wouldna gone xstinked.
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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


"I guess none of us want to be considered the Gilbert Gottfried of the blog." - You, sir, would never be accused of being that. A lot of what I have learned on this blog came from you.


Thank you very much. But I think some of my friends may disagree. They say the only time I open my mouth is to change feet. LOL
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Quoting Grothar:


No, I found it.


ROTFLMAO! - Good one. I can't best ya yet!
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Lawdy, Lawdy........lol.....
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Quoting Grothar:


I guess we have to choose our words more carefully. I guess none of us want to be considered the Gilbert Gottfried of the blog. I should have said illuminate. Don't forget, English is not my first language.


"I guess none of us want to be considered the Gilbert Gottfried of the blog." - You, sir, would never be accused of being that. A lot of what I have learned on this blog came from you.
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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


Is this it?

Link


No, I found it.


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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


Is this it?

Link


LOLOL....that is one large remote !







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