Favorable winds over Japan carrying radioactivity out to sea

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 2:16 PM GMT on March 16, 2011

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If there is going to be a major nuclear disaster with massive release of radioactivity into the atmosphere from Japan's stricken Fukushima nuclear plant, today would be the best day meteorologically for this to occur. The low pressure system that brought rain and several inches of snow to Japan yesterday has moved northeastwards out to sea, and high pressure is building in. The clockwise flow of air around the high pressure system approaching Japan from the southwest is driving strong northwesterly winds of 10 - 20 mph over the region. These winds will continue through Thursday, and will take radiation particles emitted by the stricken reactors immediately out to sea, without lingering over Japan. Since high pressure systems are regions of sinking air, the radiation will stay close to the ocean surface as the air spirals clockwise over the Pacific. The contaminated air will remain over the ocean for at least five days, which is plenty of time for the radiation to settle out to the surface.


Figure 1. Surface weather map for 8am EDT today, taken from the 6-hour forecast from this morning's 6 UTC run of the GFS model. A high pressure system to the southwest of Japan, in combination with a low pressure system to the northeast are driving strong northwesterly surface winds over the country. Image is from our wundermap with the "Model" layer turned on. The lines are sea-level pressure (blue contours, 4 mb interval) and 1000 to 500 mb thickness (yellow contours, 60 m interval). Thickness is a measure of the temperature of the lower atmosphere, and a thickness of 5400 meters is usually close to where the dividing line between rain and snow occurs.

Thursday night and Friday morning (U.S. time), the high pressure system moves over Japan, allowing winds to weaken and potentially grow calm, increasing the danger of radioactivity building up over regions near and to the north of the nuclear plant. On Friday, the high departs and a moist southwesterly flow of air will affect Japan. These southwesterly winds will blow most of the radiation out to sea, away from Tokyo. Southwesterly winds will continue through Sunday, when the next major low pressure system is expected to bring heavy precipitation to the country. Beginning Thursday night, the sinking airmass over Japan will be replaced a large-scale area of rising air, and any radiation emitted late Thursday through Friday will be carried aloft towards Alaska and eastern Russia by this southwesterly flow of rising air.

Ground-level releases of radioactivity are typically not able to be transported long distances in significant quantities, since most of the material settles to the ground a few kilometers from the source. If there is a major explosion with hot gases that shoots radioactivity several hundred meters high, that would increase the chances for long range transport, since now the ground is farther away, and the particles that start settling out will stay in the air longer before encountering the ground. Additionally, winds are stronger away from ground, due to reduced friction and presence of the jet stream aloft. These stronger winds will transport radioactivity greater distances. I've made trajectory plots for the next three days assuming two possible release altitudes--a surface-based release near 10 meters, which should be the predominant altitude in the current situation, and a higher release altitude of 300 meters, which might occur from an explosion and fire from a Chernobyl-style incident. Given that the radioactivity has to travel 3000 miles to reach Anchorage, Alaska, and 5000 miles to reach California, a very large amount of dilution will occur, along with potential loss due to rain-out. Any radiation at current levels of emission that might reach these places may not even be detectable, much less be a threat to human health. A Chernobyl-level disaster in Japan would certainly be able to produce detectable levels of radiation over North America, but I strongly doubt it would be a significant concern for human health. The Chernobyl disaster only caused dangerous human health impacts within a few hundred miles of the disaster site, and the distance from Japan to North America is ten times farther than that.


Figure 2. Five-day forecast movement of plumes of radioactive air emitted at 10 meters altitude (red line) and 300 meters (blue line) at 18 UTC (2pm EDT) Wednesday, March 16, 2011 from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. The plumes spiral clockwise around the high pressure system to the southwest of Japan and stay near the surface. Images created using NOAA's HYSPLIT trajectory model.


Figure 3. Five-day forecast movement of plumes of radioactive air emitted at 10 meters altitude (red line) and 300 meters (blue line) at 18 UTC (2pm EDT) Thursday, March 17, 2011 from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. The plumes initially spiral clockwise around the high pressure system to the southwest of Japan and stay near the surface. By Saturday, though, the plumes get caught in a southwesterly flow of air in advance of an approaching low pressure system. Ascending air lifts the plumes to high altitudes, where winds are stronger and rapid long-range transport occurs. Images created using NOAA's HYSPLIT trajectory model.


Figure 4. Five-day forecast movement of plumes of radioactive air emitted at 10 meters altitude (red line) and 300 meters (blue line) at 18 UTC (2pm EDT) Friday, March 18, 2011 from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. The plumes get caught in a southwesterly flow of air in advance of an approaching low pressure system. The plume emitted near the surface (red line) stays trapped near the surface, but the plume emitted at 300 meters is lifted to 3.5 km altitude by the rising air associated with the approaching low pressure system. Images created using NOAA's HYSPLIT trajectory model.

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Seven-day weather forecast for Sendai near the Fukushima nuclear plant

The Austrian Weather Service is running trajectory models for Japan.

Current radar loops from the Japan Meteorological Agency

Rare subtropical cyclone forms near Brazil
An unusual low pressure system that came close to becoming a tropical storm is in the South Atlantic, a few hundred miles east of the coast of Brazil. The Brazilian Navy Hydrographic Center has officially named the system Subtropical Storm "Arani", but I'm not sure the low would have been named by NHC, since Arani has somewhat of a loose circulation and limited heavy thunderstorm activity. The storm is expected to move slowly eastward out to sea, and does not pose a threat to South America. The latest run of the GFDL model shows little development of Arani, and the storm is now encountering a frontal system, which is bringing 20 - 30 knots of wind shear. It is unlikely that Arani will become a tropical storm. Some runs of the GFDL last weekend were predicting Arani would intensify into a Category 3 hurricane; that's the first time I've even seen such a prediction for a South Atlantic storm. The metsul.com blog has more info on Arani, for those of you who read Portugese.


Figure 5. During the daytime on Tuesday 15 March 2011 at 1820 UTC the TRMM satellite flew over a rare cyclone labeled Arani in the South Atlantic. Arani had the appearance of a tropical cyclone but has been classified as a subtropical cyclone. NOAA's Satellite and Information Service classified Arani as a T1 on the Dvorak intensity scale which would indicate an estimated wind speed of about 29 kt (~33 mph). TRMM's Microwave Imager (TMI) and Precipitation Radar (PR) data were used in the image above to show rainfall near Arani. Image credit: NASA.

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Quoting TampaSpin:


lOOK beyond that......look toward the Baja of Cali.

Here is a list of Mag-3 or better for the U.S. Territories 7 day list...MAG UTC DATE-TIME
y/m/d h:m:s LAT
deg LON
deg DEPTH
km LOCATION
MAP 3.7 2011/03/16 17:36:56 45.571 -74.547 5.3 45 km ( 28 mi) WSW of Mirabel, Canada
MAP 3.3 2011/03/16 14:56:37 61.554 -149.805 20.4 5 km ( 3 mi) ENE of Big Lake, AK
MAP 5.4 2011/03/16 13:42:33 19.033 -67.918 56.0 95 km ( 59 mi) ENE of Hig%uFFFDey, Dominican Republic
MAP 3.5 2011/03/16 12:56:20 39.032 -118.808 6.4 8 km ( 5 mi) NNE of Schurz, NV
MAP 3.0 2011/03/16 05:20:00 19.082 -66.482 12.5 69 km ( 43 mi) N of Tierras Nuevas Poniente, PR
MAP 3.7 2011/03/15 18:14:40 38.385 -118.727 12.5 18 km ( 11 mi) SSW of Hawthorne, NV
MAP 3.2 2011/03/15 18:11:02 38.386 -118.727 12.2 18 km ( 11 mi) SSW of Hawthorne, NV
MAP 3.0 2011/03/15 13:49:08 19.127 -66.459 27.0 74 km ( 46 mi) N of Tierras Nuevas Poniente, PR
MAP 3.0 2011/03/15 13:07:51 18.284 -68.046 105.4 79 km ( 49 mi) ESE of Hig%uFFFDey, Dominican Republic
MAP 3.3 2011/03/15 07:15:48 31.561 -117.106 7.1 54 km ( 33 mi) WSW of Maneadero, Mexico
MAP 3.0 2011/03/15 05:37:47 19.123 -66.485 21.0 74 km ( 46 mi) N of Tierras Nuevas Poniente, PR
MAP 3.6 2011/03/14 06:30:03 31.996 -115.048 10.0 33 km ( 21 mi) S of Guadalupe Victoria, Mexico
MAP 4.0 2011/03/14 01:43:49 25.440 -109.662 10.0 72 km ( 45 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 3.8 2011/03/13 20:16:21 32.954 -100.810 5.0 28 km ( 18 mi) NNE of Snyder, TX
MAP 4.6 2011/03/13 16:07:34 25.285 -109.748 10.0 91 km ( 56 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 4.0 2011/03/13 05:54:25 25.276 -110.076 10.1 115 km ( 71 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 4.6 2011/03/13 02:50:11 25.442 -109.763 23.6 79 km ( 49 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 3.3 2011/03/13 01:19:16 51.831 -171.244 26.5 203 km (126 mi) SW of Nikolski, AK
MAP 3.0 2011/03/12 23:12:18 60.150 -150.884 47.2 28 km ( 18 mi) SE of Kasilof, AK
MAP 4.5 2011/03/12 21:58:39 25.308 -109.837 10.2 95 km ( 59 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 4.3 2011/03/12 20:16:58 25.423 -109.730 10.0 78 km ( 48 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 4.7 2011/03/12 17:54:18 25.456 -109.690 22.2 73 km ( 45 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 5.1 2011/03/12 17:13:01 25.466 -109.727 10.0 75 km ( 46 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 5.3 2011/03/12 14:11:04 25.396 -109.652 12.1 75 km ( 47 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 5.5 2011/03/12 13:26:02 25.350 -109.930 17.6 98 km ( 61 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 4.3 2011/03/12 12:06:16 51.593 -175.256 25.5 98 km ( 61 mi) SW of Atka, AK
MAP 4.4 2011/03/12 12:03:42 25.260 -109.964 10.1 108 km ( 67 mi) SW of Ahome, Mexico
MAP 3.0 2011/03/12 03:41:35 41.092 -125.437 27.2 109 km ( 68 mi) W of Trinidad, CA
MAP 3.0 2011/03/12 00:04:08 19.337 -154.981 9.3 16 km ( 10 mi) SSW of Leilani Estates, HI
MAP 3.2 2011/03/11 19:46:26 19.381 -155.011 9.0 14 km ( 9 mi) SW of Leilani Estates, HI
MAP 3.5 2011/03/11 12:15:06 51.147 -178.415 5.5 147 km ( 92 mi) WSW of Adak, AK
MAP 3.2 2011/03/11 10:56:23 35.496 -97.090 4.7 9 km ( 5 mi) ENE of Harrah, OK
MAP 3.0 2011/03/11 09:33:57 19.382 -155.015 7.6 14 km ( 9 mi) SW of Leilani Estates, HI
MAP 3.3 2011/03/11 09:03:37 19.349 -154.950 31.4 14 km ( 9 mi) SSW of Leilani Estates, HI
MAP 4.6 2011/03/11 08:58:25 19.341 -154.993 9.3 17 km ( 10 mi) SSW of Leilani Estates, HI
MAP 4.6 2011/03/11 07:36:11 51.209 -178.418 20.6 144 km ( 89 mi) WSW of Adak, AK
MAP 3.3 2011/03/11 06:18:03 19.344 -154.989 8.5 16 km ( 10 mi) SSW of Leilani Estates, HI
MAP 3.4 2011/03/11 04:51:25 35.351 -118.561 5.4 13 km ( 8 mi) N of Keene, CA
MAP 4.0 2011/03/11 00:25:28 18.897 -68.855 166.1 24 km ( 15 mi) NE of El Seybo, Dominican Republic
MAP 3.4 2011/03/10 21:31:23 51.116 -178.641 19.9 162 km (101 mi) WSW of Adak, AK
MAP 3.4 2011/03/10 20:40:07 51.485 -173.435 14.0 96 km ( 59 mi) SE of Atka, AK
MAP 3.4 2011/03/10 18:10:05 19.648 -64.169 8.0 103 km ( 64 mi) N of Settlement, British Virgin Islands
MAP 3.2 2011/03/10 15:56:24 36.008 -117.401 4.7 27 km ( 17 mi) N of Trona, CA
MAP 3.1 2011/03/10 07:41:30 19.157 -65.424 6.0 92 km ( 57 mi) NNE of Vieques, PR
MAP 3.2 2011/03/10 06:19:01 67.700 -152.596 6.4 62 km ( 38 mi) SW of Anaktuvuk Pass, AK
MAP 3.0 2011/03/10 05:03:52 55.741 -156.780 15.8 118 km ( 74 mi) ESE of Chignik, AK
MAP 3.5 2011/03/09 20:48:31 35.243 -92.397 5.9 2 km ( 1 mi) NNW of Greenbrier, AR
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Quoting twincomanche:


Even twenty two times higher is way way below any danger levels. You get more than that walking through the screening machines at the airport.


The length of exposure is important.
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Quoting CFLWX:



Looks like some aftn thunderstorms coming your away on daily basis here soon.
It feels like a tropical wave very unusual for march . March is supposed to be dry and breezy
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Quoting Xyrus2000:


Saltwater isn't used in reactors. It is corrosive and can quickly lead to massive deposits of minerals. Hence why injecting these reactors with salt water is a last resort. After doing so, the reactors are essentially destroyed.


Future Water Use in the Nuclear Power Industry Since the EPA has begun to restrict water withdrawal, open cycle cooling has essentially become illegal for new plants. Lobbying efforts may eventually overturn this regulation, but for now the power industry must turn to more expensive options such as closed cycle cooling, or other cooling methods that do not depend on water as much as current techniques.
The loss of the open cycle option has served to make coastal location less valuable. The lower wildlife density of deep ocean water has long been an attractive feature for coastal power plants, since open cycle cooling systems would become clogged less often and also have reduced environmental impact. As closed cycle wet systems are currently the second most popular option, the shift away from open cycle systems will serve to make freshwater more valuable than salt water for cooling purposes, as salt water is difficult to use in closed cycle systems. The Calvert Cliffs nuclear power plant, for example, is planning to use a small desalination plant to provide fresh cooling water for its proposed third unit.22 The plants location was originally chosen with the use of open cycle seawater using systems in mind, but has been forced to adopt freshwater using systems, despite the scarcity of fresh water in the immediate environment.
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Quoting hydrus:
Link
Thank You
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Quoting TampaSpin:


lOOK beyond that......look toward the Baja of Cali.



I know, watch that,too. I'm sorry Cali's, I just couldn't live there.
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304. Skyepony (Mod)
Here's part of the Spiegel article that goes with the ZAMG model.. translated from German.

The radioactive cloud is driving towards Tokyo. How strong is the radiation depends on the further release at Fukushima nuclear power plant damaged.

Given the low wind speeds of about 10 to 20 km / h, the radiation leaked from the Fukushima nuclear power plant had already achieved enough time to Tokyo.

Measurements of Tuesday seemed to confirm this: Already some 100 kilometers north of the capital, Tokyo was the radiation exposure of up to ten times higher than normal, the Kyodo news agency reported, citing local authorities.

In Tokyo itself, the radiation was 22 times higher than usual, the television station NHK reported on Tuesday.

The U.S. military has been even at its base in Yokosuka - which is located south of Tokyo - weak radioactivity.
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Quoting EYEStoSEA:


Would be nice, TY...I did notice there were (2) 2.5's in Arkansas around same time frame of the Ontario 3.7...


lOOK beyond that......look toward the Baja of Cali.

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Quoting belizeit:
Does someone have the gfs link ? The one i used has stopped showing the caribbean .
Link
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Does someone have the gfs link ? The one i used has stopped showing the caribbean .
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Quoting MrMixon:
275. I probably won't have time to dig too deeply until this evening (stupid Elsevier and their stupid access fees...). I'll be sure to post whatever I learn...


Would be nice, TY...I did notice there were (2) 2.5's in Arkansas around same time frame of the Ontario 3.7...
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Quoting Neapolitan:
According to several news sources, the power line to Fukushima is "almost complete" and, once tested and connected to the electric pumps idled since the tsunami, will allow water to be applied in high volumes to all the crippled reactors.

don't put much on that outcome the quake the wave the explosions have pretty well torn that place apart i doubt much will work correctly once it goes back on line we can always hope
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IAEA Update on Japan Earthquake

Staff Report



IAEA Director General to Travel to Japan (16 March 18:50 UTC)

Director General Yukiya Amano announced the following today in Vienna:

"I plan to fly to Japan as soon as possible, hopefully tomorrow, to see the situation for myself and learn from our Japanese counterparts how best the IAEA can help. I will request that the Board of Governors meet upon my return to discuss the situation. My intention is that the first IAEA experts should leave for Japan as soon as possible."

On 15 March, Japan requested the IAEA for assistance in the areas of environmental monitoring and the effects of radiation on human health, asking for IAEA teams of experts to be sent to Japan to assist local experts.

Given the fast-changing situation in Japan, the Director General was unable to announce the itinerary for his trip. He expects to be in Japan for a short amount of time and then return to Vienna.
Japanese Earthquake Update (16 March 14:55 UTC)

Japanese authorities have reported concerns about the condition of the spent nuclear fuel pool at Fukushima Daiichi Unit 3 and Unit 4. Japanese Defense Minister Toshimi Kitazawa announced Wednesday that Special Defence Forces helicopters planned to drop water onto Unit 3, and officials are also preparing to spray water into Unit 4 from ground positions, and possibly later into Unit 3. Some debris on the ground from the 14 March explosion at Unit 3 may need to be removed before the spraying can begin.
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Quoting Floodman:


Yeah, mine too...you start talking about the end of the world though, and people tend to get a little
Just for the record, it is my contention that the human race survive 12/21/12.
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275. I probably won't have time to dig too deeply until this evening (stupid Elsevier and their stupid access fees...). I'll be sure to post whatever I learn...
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
and the blood shall flow up to the bridle bit of a horse's mouth
Ya know, it seems like every few months there is a huge and deadly disaster somewhere. It is heart wrenching to say the least.
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Someone posted some scientific information and you called it boring. Who is picking on who? For the record, I also responded to Amy's "snore" comment, so you're not getting special treatment.

Your concern for the Midwest is well-founded. The whole reason we're discussing the Montreal earthquake is to explore the question of whether or not it is related to the New Madrid system in the Midwest. So, it seems to me like we're all interested in the same thing.


Quoting klaatuborada:


Are you picking on me? I was not the first to put the snore on this, I was just agreeing with the previous snore. This fault is felt all the way down the Eastern Seaboard. It's not new and it's been here a while. More worrisome to me is midwest.
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291. Skyepony (Mod)
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According to several news sources, the power line to Fukushima is "almost complete" and, once tested and connected to the electric pumps idled since the tsunami, will allow water to be applied in high volumes to all the crippled reactors.

Fingers crossed. We'll see...
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
it is safe to say we have gone from a NUCLEAR EMERGENCY to NUCLEAR MELTDOWN LEVEL 7 once chain reaction resumes



not an advocate of my mom and dads coal burning stove but, YA MAYBE!
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Quoting hydrus:
Its that Mayan thing startin in I guess...My squirrel post was an attempt to lighten the mood a little.


Yeah, mine too...you start talking about the end of the world though, and people tend to get a little
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Quoting Floodman:


That last post, in combination with your avatar is disturbing indeed...


Don't worry. Be happy.
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
and the blood shall flow up to the bridle bit of a horse's mouth


That last post, in combination with your avatar is disturbing indeed...
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it is safe to say we have gone from a NUCLEAR EMERGENCY to NUCLEAR MELTDOWN LEVEL 7 once chain reaction resumes
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Quoting FloridaHeat:


Snore. Zzzzzzzz.


lol!
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
and the blood shall flow up to the bridle bit of a horse's mouth



So be good for goodness sake!
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http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=487 0
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Quoting Floodman:


Hardly...Armageddon, the penultimate battle is to be fought at Megiddo (hence Armageddon) in the Jezreel Valley...
and the blood shall flow up to the bridle bit of a horse's mouth
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Quoting Floodman:


Now that's disturbing news...it may very well be the harbinger of the end...LOL
Its that Mayan thing startin in I guess...My squirrel post was an attempt to lighten the mood a little.
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Quoting MrMixon:
Why the contrarian tone? I'm a geologist and I was glad that someone pointed out the earthquake in the Montreal area... it's motivated me to learn a little about the St. Lawrence Rift system and its relationship to the Appalachians and the New Madrid fault system (or the Reelfoot Rift).

So are you in the Montreal area? I'm definitely curious to know how common it is to have minor earthquakes in the St. Lawrence Rift.

We're just a bunch of geeks here sharing knowledge. Usually, if I find a post boring I don't feel the need to insult the person who posted it with a "snore" comment. It seems unnecessary since I don't think ANYONE has claimed that this earthquake warrants any kind of global concern.




MrMixon...keep it up, I am very interested in what u may find. Glad to know you are a geologist. Wish I were.
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273. Skyepony (Mod)
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1859: More from NRC chair Gregory Jaczko. He told Congress: "We believe that secondary containment has been destroyed and there is no water in the spent fuel pool and we believe that radiation levels are extremely high which could possibly impact the ability to take corrective measures."
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Quoting SaraGal:
The hardest thing for me is to get my mind around all the is happening in Japan and being unable to do anything to immediately 'fix it.' .. added to the understanding of 'half-life' effects ... are we seeing the unfolding of our Armageddon?


Hardly...Armageddon, the penultimate battle is to be fought at Megiddo (hence Armageddon) in the Jezreel Valley...
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Quoting MrMixon:
Why the contrarian tone? I'm a geologist and I was glad that someone pointed out the earthquake in the Montreal area... it's motivated me to learn a little about the St. Lawrence Rift system and its relationship to the Appalachians and the New Madrid fault system (or the Reelfoot Rift).

So are you in the Montreal area? I'm definitely curious to know how common it is to have minor earthquakes in the St. Lawrence Rift.

We're just a bunch of geeks here sharing knowledge. Usually, if I find a post boring I don't feel the need to insult the person who posted it with a "snore" comment. It seems unnecessary since I don't think ANYONE has claimed that this earthquake warrants any kind of global concern.




Are you picking on me? I was not the first to put the snore on this, I was just agreeing with the previous snore. This fault is felt all the way down the Eastern Seaboard. It's not new and it's been here a while. More worrisome to me is midwest.
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Quoting Floodman:


Now that's disturbing news...it may very well be the harbinger of the end...LOL
thats all we need the animals turn on us that would be something
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Why the contrarian tone? I'm a geologist and I was glad that someone pointed out the earthquake in the Montreal area... it's motivated me to learn a little about the St. Lawrence Rift system and its relationship to the Appalachians and the New Madrid fault system (or the Reelfoot Rift).

So are you in the Montreal area? I'm definitely curious to know how common it is to have minor earthquakes in the St. Lawrence Rift.

We're just a bunch of geeks here sharing knowledge. Usually, if I find a post boring I don't feel the need to insult the person who posted it with a "snore" comment. It seems unnecessary since I don't think ANYONE has claimed that this earthquake warrants any kind of global concern.


Quoting klaatuborada:


Gosh, I feel these all the time. They're nothing like the ones in Cali. snore is correct.
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Quoting klaatuborada:


Let's not forget the wild turkeys we've got, they are still nasty Turkeys and aren't going anywhere quickly enough!



Turkeys too? Now this is disturbing news
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Quoting Patrap:
Japan NHK LIVE English USTREAM feed


Got that feed on both of my websites and it is really a great resource! Thanks Pat...
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Quoting hydrus:
And to top it all off, there is a squirrel attacking people in Vermont...Link


Now that's disturbing news...it may very well be the harbinger of the end...LOL
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