Senate committee proposes less drastic budget cuts for NOAA

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 10:16 PM GMT on March 07, 2011

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Last month, the U.S. House of Representatives proposed a new budget (HR 1) for the remainder of the fiscal year that would slash funding of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) by $454 million. This would mean a draconian 28% cut for the National Weather Service, the agency entrusted to protect us from natural hazards such as hurricanes, tornadoes, and floods. Monday, the U.S. Senate Appropriations Committee released a proposed alternative to HR 1 that would make a $110 million reduction to NOAA operations for the remainder of the fiscal year. Of the $110 million cut, $104 million was from earmarks that are no longer funded. This effectively only cuts the NOAA budget by $6 million, and would allow NOAA to continue its efforts through the coming tornado, flood, and hurricane seasons to help protect lives and property without suffering from crippling budget cuts.

Now is the time to mobilize to ensure adequate funding for NOAA, and the National Weather Service Employees Organization issued these recommendations in a letter posted on their website today:

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Assuming the Senate adopts this proposal, the effort goes to convincing House Leadership of the important work of the NWS and fully funding NOAA. At this important stage, we ask you to contact Congressmen John Boehner and Eric Cantor and respectfully request that they support the Senate's proposal for NOAA's budget. These congressmen hold the key to the future of the NWS.

To email or call Speaker John Boehner
http://www.speaker.gov/Contact/

To email or call Representative Eric Cantor
http://cantor.house.gov/contact/

You can also join the Protect the National Weather Service Facebook group, which was created for this cause. Our fan count is growing rapidly but we need more. We want Congress to take notice of how much support our fans have shown. Please share this message with your friends and ask them to click "like" directly on our page. We will have more information, some cool photos and interesting tidbits to share in the coming days.

Sample letters and talking points are available below. Please feel free to use these letters and also tailor them to the particular types of weather for your geographic area. The links below provide email addresses and phone numbers to help you in this effort.

Your support of the National Weather Service is greatly appreciated. You are making the difference in helping the agency continue their mission of saving lives and property. Thank you.


Dear Mr. Speaker (for Speaker John Boehner) OR
Dear Mr. Cantor (for Rep. Eric Cantor)

I am writing to ask you to support the Senate's proposal for NOAA's budget. This proposal will help NOAA and the National Weather Service continue the mission of saving lives and property.

The Senate's proposal includes responsible funding levels in stark contrast to the draconian cuts included in HR1. HR1 would have resulted in the following impacts on the National Weather Service:

* Reduced staffing at Weather Forecast Offices and River Forecast Centers would result in incomplete forecast production which could prove disastrous in a significant weather event. Even in the best of cases, it will still mean incomplete forecast production at WFOs that have major product workloads for aviation, marine, tropical and public services.

* This is going to have a negative impact on the economy and on almost every aspect of our daily lives. There will be a large scale economic impact on aviation, agriculture, and the cost shipping food and other products.

* Service backup of 24 Weather Forecasting Offices has never been tested and runs a very significant risk of a missed tornado, flood or severe weather warning. It is risking lives at the onset of both tornadoes and hurricane season. This is also doubling the area of responsibility for operations and adds the risk of degraded service delivery.

* The National Hurricane Center is not immune to these cuts as furloughs and staffing cuts will add strain to the program. The Hurricane Hunter Jet, which provides lifesaving data and helps determine a hurricane.s path, could also be eliminated.

* Information that is vital for weather modeling and accurate tornado watches and warnings will be reduced and in some cases lost. Reduced upper air observations currently made twice a day could be reduced to once every other day. Buoy and surface weather observations, the backbone of most of the weather and warning systems, may be temporarily or permanently discontinued.

Recent advances in aviation weather forecasting have resulted in as much as a 50 percent reduction in weather related flight delays. The Senate.s proposal for funding will help progressive programs such as these continue and may, in turn, prove beneficial to strengthening the economy.
For the safety of our citizens, the protection of property, and the large scale economic impact on aviation, agriculture, and commerce, I am asking you to vote in support the Senate.s proposal for NOAA's budget.

Sincerely,
Your Name

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I encourage all of you to make your voices heard and help preserve funding for NOAA and the National Weather Service.

You can call or email your U.S. Senator using this link: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information /senators_cfm.cfm

You can call or email your U.S. House of Representatives member using this link: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

The National Weather Service Employees Organization web site has talking points and sample letters (printable) you can use to contact your Senators and Representative.

Climate Science and EPA’s Greenhouse Gas Regulations
The U.S. House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Energy and Power, chaired by Rep. Ed Whitfield (R-KY), will hold a hearing on Tuesday, March 8, 2011, at 10:00 a.m. in room 2123 of the Rayburn House Office Building. The hearing is entitled, “Climate Science and EPA’s Greenhouse Gas Regulations.” Full Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-MI) and Rep. Whitfield have joined Democratic leaders in the U.S. House in authoring the Energy Tax Prevention Act (H.R. 910), a bill to block EPA’s controversial backdoor climate change agenda that would further drive up the price of energy for American consumers and job creators at a time when gas prices are already spiking and job creation remains weak.

The hearing is open to the public and press. Opening statements, witness testimony, and a live webcast will be available online at http://energycommerce.house.gov

Jeff Masters

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Quoting Barefootontherocks:
2215 BROOKSTON LAMAR TX 3362 9570
AT LEAST TWO LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS REPORTED A BRIEF TORNADO TOUCHDOWN SOUTHWEST OF BROOKSTON. AT LEAST ONE BARN WAS DAMAGED. TIME WAS BETWEEN 410 PM AND 415 PM. (FWD)

Little tornado W of Paris... Texas, that is.

See ya later, people.
Was just about to post that. Sounds like injuries, or worse, are unlikely. That's a good thing.
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REAAAAAAAAAL early!

gee, that helped tons....
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2215 BROOKSTON LAMAR TX 3362 9570
AT LEAST TWO LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS REPORTED A BRIEF TORNADO TOUCHDOWN SOUTHWEST OF BROOKSTON. AT LEAST ONE BARN WAS DAMAGED. TIME WAS BETWEEN 410 PM AND 415 PM. (FWD)

Little tornado W of Paris... Texas, that is.

See ya later, people.
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Quoting atmoaggie:
He seems to have forgotten where he is and whom beell is.

If anyone has their finger on the pulse of severe weather around here, the short list has beell at the top. Been that way a long time, now.

And, yeah, he's a light hearted and dry humor sort of guy, too. Rather make everyone else smile than start hurling accusations and calling names. His way of saying *flick* "go away, bug".


Of course, but I guess that's what you have to expect from someone who thinks they have superior intellect.

I'm just happy to not have had any professors like that. Good Lord that would be miserable.
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Quoting NRAamy:
Oh! Oh OH! Teacher!!!!!!!

;)

Yes, I have heard of both Upper and Lower Egypt.... I watch my Ancient Aliens every week on the History Channel...

so, how early are we talking? what BC?



REAAAAAAAAAL early!
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Quoting cat5hurricane:
Ice cold beer, TomTaylor? My treat.

good, because I'm not old enough to buy that stuff you know :)
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Quoting Jedkins01:


Based on the way you post, I have questioned many times if you might be computer algorithm or not.
He seems to have forgotten where he is and whom beell is.

If anyone has their finger on the pulse of severe weather around here, the short list has beell at the top. Been that way a long time, now.

And, yeah, he's a light hearted and dry humor sort of guy, too. Rather make everyone else smile than start hurling accusations and calling names. His way of saying *flick* "go away, bug".
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Oh! Oh OH! Teacher!!!!!!!

;)

Yes, I have heard of both Upper and Lower Egypt.... I watch my Ancient Aliens every week on the History Channel...

so, how early are we talking? what BC?

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Quoting cat5hurricane:

LOL!!


Some things are just too much fun to resist saying :)
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Quoting Neapolitan:

Oh but I do, because you told us. To wit: you claimed that basing climate theory for a planet that's 4 billion years old on just 40 years' worth of data is folly. I replied that, using that same logic, basing astronomical theory for a universe that's 14 billion years old on just 400 years' worth of telescope observation must be folly, too. What'd I dismiss?

Ah, well... In weather news, the afternoon summer-like sea-breeze storms are hanging around SW Florida; it's been raining in my part of Naples pretty much continuously for close to two hours now. Nice.


It sure is getting an early start down there isn't it?

We have been getting some convective cloud growth up here as well, still too much dry air and subsidence for rain, but still, it looks more like an early May sky out there, and feels like it as well.

Personally, I love it :)
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Quoting NRAamy:
Post 386,

Ok, please excuse my ignorance here, but I never thought of Ancient Egypt as isolated.... weren't they then in close proximity to other groups/bands of people?


I was speaking of the early civilization, before they became the great traders they were. There were two parts of Egypt. Upper Egypt which was in the south and Lower Egypt which was in the North. Some sorts of trading were always probably going on. Besides, I do not remember calling for any comments from the peanut gallery. Next time raise your hand first. :P
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Quoting Grothar:
The more remote a civilization, the more attuned to their environment. For instance, the Egyptians depended upon the flooding of the Nile for their very existence. The early Egyptians even based their first calender upon the cycles of the Nile. By observing the stars, over probably centuries, they learned early, that the stars positions coincided with the Nile's cyles. They then began to base their civilization on alignments, etc. This of course would be incorporated into any phase of ones pursuits, be it architecture of even religion. The same held true for the early civilizations in the Americas. Since they were truly isolated, any aspect of nature became of utmost importance for their survival. While the fact of similar architecture and technology developing in different parts of the world, is not out of the realm of possibility. The similarities are they, because they were examining the same phenomenon from different perspectives. It would be natural to arrive at similar conclusions. Also notice that these occurred in relatively warm areas of the planet.

The later European civilization, on the other hand, did not necessarily have to depend on these devices. Since the climate was harsher, their immediate concern was developing methods to stay warm, find food in cold climates and methods of preserving that food. Their technology actually developed to a much higher degree due to the fact that survival techniques allowed an environment for more innovative technology. There was no need to build a pyramid in the snow; a warm hut would suffice. Lesson II tomorrow. Bring a pencil.


We were told! and maybe we were told wrong as youths at school that the colonizing peoples of the US were the first colonizers in known history to take little or no notice of what the native people of the Americas told them about the hazards of the country and building towns in some parts of it. Looking at the USA from a geographical point of view a lot of disasters would have been avoided if the natives had been listened to, especially regarding natural hazards and earthquake zones.
I seem to remember some 20 years ago a construction of a nuclear power station in California having to be stopped as it was being built straddling a fault line.

I got a severe telling off by an illiterate Spanish farmer for planting potatoes at the wrong phase of the moon, whilst we stood watching a comet and wondering if it had any connection to us living things?
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Quoting JFLORIDA:
383 I dont care what you like, should I, You cant even argue a correct point.

What kind of person does not even care whether what they say is correct? (to beg the question) - and why is that arrogant to insist on? And that video - are you an adult?

Its a science based site. Its slanted conceptually towards facts and reason. The computer algorithms that run all of it are nearly pure reason and logic. Mechanically its the same thing.

I just don't get why you are here.


Based on the way you post, I have questioned many times if you might be computer algorithm or not.
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Quoting Surfcropper:


Or 150 years of industrial particle waste, eh?

We could always check the records...which began in the 1970's.

Its feasible to base theory of a 4 billion year old planetary system on 40 years of observation.

Make it law! Sign it.



Oh really? Records began in 1970s?

I'm sure you mean "Significant warming began in the 1970s"

Serious record keeping began 100 years before the 1970s.


But NONE of that really matters, does it? If we can see our temperature graphs with an upward trend, it's obvious the earth is warming, is it not?
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383. Matrix...
LOL. I know someone who worked putting sound to that film. He'd get a kick out of that clip!

2" hail and wind reports around Paris... Texas, that is.

YW, amy.
:)
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Quoting Grothar:

Still making Monet paintings I see lol
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Post 386,

Ok, please excuse my ignorance here, but I never thought of Ancient Egypt as isolated.... weren't they then in close proximity to other groups/bands of people?
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The wind in Se LA starting take it's toll.

This is not too far from Asta (an infrequent poster, here) or Folsom, LA. About 15 miles NNW from myself.

LARGE TREE DOWNED NEAR ST.TAMMANY-TANGIPAHOA PARISH LINE NEAR HIGHWAY 40.
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Quoting Surfcropper:


You have no idea what my reckoning is.

You'll just dismiss it, as you always do to viewpoints that conflict with your own. How very scientific, by the way.

Oh but I do, because you told us. To wit: you claimed that basing climate theory for a planet that's 4 billion years old on just 40 years' worth of data is folly. I replied that, using that same logic, basing astronomical theory for a universe that's 14 billion years old on just 400 years' worth of telescope observation must be folly, too. What'd I dismiss?

Ah, well... In weather news, the afternoon summer-like sea-breeze storms are hanging around SW Florida; it's been raining in my part of Naples pretty much continuously for close to two hours now. Nice.
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thanks barefoot!

:)
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Here ya go, amy. I'll share with you.
:)



Bad weather around Paris right now---Texas that is.

Ps. PBW, popcorn?
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I'm sure I will be gone everyone..But that's Ok.My mouth always has gotten me in trouble.........I am a divorced female in south Florida and in my history I have learned to not put up with crap.Sorry if I offended anyone.But I have a tendency to speak my mind.. If I honestly believe I am right I speak out.

I am sure I will be banned.Forever, maybe,.But i do feel better
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who's got the popcorn?
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Quoting Surfcropper:


what exactly is considered myth? which part? I'm lost.





I quoted the wrong quote!! sounds like a Bob Dylan song...

The part where he said:
**for hundreds of years there was a myth passed around that said**



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Quoting Skyepony:
Canada got weather alert radios for the schools.. The reaction is missed.. Maybe that principal that is complaining hasn't noticed the increase in tornadoes up that way, with climate change.

Jon~ Thanks~ Looks like my article was a few weeks out of date.


Hey, Skye, look at our swirl out there.
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387. Skyepony (Mod)
Canada got weather alert radios for the schools.. The reaction is mixed.. Maybe that principal that is complaining hasn't noticed the increase in tornadoes up that way, with climate change.

Jon~ Thanks~ Looks like my article was a few weeks out of date.
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The more remote a civilization, the more attuned to their environment. For instance, the Egyptians depended upon the flooding of the Nile for their very existence. The early Egyptians even based their first calender upon the cycles of the Nile. By observing the stars, over probably centuries, they learned early, that the stars positions coincided with the Nile's cyles. They then began to base their civilization on alignments, etc. This of course would be incorporated into any phase of ones pursuits, be it architecture of even religion. The same held true for the early civilizations in the Americas. Since they were truly isolated, any aspect of nature became of utmost importance for their survival. While the fact of similar architecture and technology developing in different parts of the world, is not out of the realm of possibility. The similarities are they, because they were examining the same phenomenon from different perspectives. It would be natural to arrive at similar conclusions. Also notice that these occurred in relatively warm areas of the planet.

The later European civilization, on the other hand, did not necessarily have to depend on these devices. Since the climate was harsher, their immediate concern was developing methods to stay warm, find food in cold climates and methods of preserving that food. Their technology actually developed to a much higher degree due to the fact that survival techniques allowed an environment for more innovative technology. There was no need to build a pyramid in the snow; a warm hut would suffice. Lesson II tomorrow. Bring a pencil.
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Spanish swirl:

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383. beell
Yeah, well, I don't like you either.
)


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Flash Flood Watch

Statement as of 3:50 PM CST on March 08, 2011

... Flash Flood Watch remains in effect through Wednesday
afternoon...

The Flash Flood Watch continues for

* portions of southeast Louisiana and southern Mississippi...
including the following areas... in southeast Louisiana...
Ascension... Assumption... East Baton Rouge... East Feliciana...
Iberville... Livingston... lower Jefferson... lower Lafourche...
lower Plaquemines... lower St. Bernard... lower Terrebonne...
Orleans... Pointe Coupee... St. Charles... St. Helena... St.
James... St. John The Baptist... St. Tammany... Tangipahoa...
upper Jefferson... upper Lafourche... upper Plaquemines... upper
St. Bernard... upper Terrebonne... Washington... West Baton
Rouge and West Feliciana. In southern Mississippi... Amite...
Hancock... Harrison... Jackson... Pearl River... Pike... Walthall
and Wilkinson.

* Through Wednesday afternoon

* showers and thunderstorms will produce widespread rain amounts
of 3 to 5 inches across the area... with isolated totals of up to
7 inches possible by the end of the day on Wednesday. The
ground is already nearly saturated in some areas as a result of
rainfall this past Friday and Saturday. Additional heavy
rainfall will be capable of producing flooding in a short time
in some areas.

* In addition to localized flash flooding... river flooding will
also be a concern due to already elevated river levels. Heavy
rainfall will quickly run off into area rivers... which will lead
to a more extended period of flooding into the end of the
workweek. Rivers in the Baton Rouge area and across the
Northshore of Lake Ponchartrain will be most impacted by this
heavy rainfall.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

A Flash Flood Watch means that conditions may develop that lead
to flash flooding. Flash flooding is a very dangerous situation.

Do not drive your vehicle into areas where the water covers the
roadway. The water depth may be too great to allow your car to
cross safely. Vehicles caught in rising water should be abandoned
quickly. Move to higher ground.

You should monitor later forecasts and be prepared to take action
should flash flood warnings be issued.
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Discovery from ISS after un-docking yesterday
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post 375, please answer

:)
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Quoting beell:
Seize the Carp, Gro. Seize the Carp.


That was Horace, not Homer. LOL Good one, beel. I try to do that every diem.
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Quoting Surfcropper:


You have no idea what my reckoning is.

You'll just dismiss it, as you always do to viewpoints that conflict with your own. How very scientific, by the way.

400 years ago, Europe was very far away from the places certain ancient aliens visited thousands of years earlier.

Why is it civilizations that predate western science had a more accurate recording of the planets, stars and sun? And an almost perfect solar and lunar calendar system?





I could answer that Surf, briefly, if you really want. No, kidding this time.
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374. beell
Seize the Carp, Gro. Seize the Carp.
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