Senate committee proposes less drastic budget cuts for NOAA

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 10:16 PM GMT on March 07, 2011

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Last month, the U.S. House of Representatives proposed a new budget (HR 1) for the remainder of the fiscal year that would slash funding of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) by $454 million. This would mean a draconian 28% cut for the National Weather Service, the agency entrusted to protect us from natural hazards such as hurricanes, tornadoes, and floods. Monday, the U.S. Senate Appropriations Committee released a proposed alternative to HR 1 that would make a $110 million reduction to NOAA operations for the remainder of the fiscal year. Of the $110 million cut, $104 million was from earmarks that are no longer funded. This effectively only cuts the NOAA budget by $6 million, and would allow NOAA to continue its efforts through the coming tornado, flood, and hurricane seasons to help protect lives and property without suffering from crippling budget cuts.

Now is the time to mobilize to ensure adequate funding for NOAA, and the National Weather Service Employees Organization issued these recommendations in a letter posted on their website today:

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Assuming the Senate adopts this proposal, the effort goes to convincing House Leadership of the important work of the NWS and fully funding NOAA. At this important stage, we ask you to contact Congressmen John Boehner and Eric Cantor and respectfully request that they support the Senate's proposal for NOAA's budget. These congressmen hold the key to the future of the NWS.

To email or call Speaker John Boehner
http://www.speaker.gov/Contact/

To email or call Representative Eric Cantor
http://cantor.house.gov/contact/

You can also join the Protect the National Weather Service Facebook group, which was created for this cause. Our fan count is growing rapidly but we need more. We want Congress to take notice of how much support our fans have shown. Please share this message with your friends and ask them to click "like" directly on our page. We will have more information, some cool photos and interesting tidbits to share in the coming days.

Sample letters and talking points are available below. Please feel free to use these letters and also tailor them to the particular types of weather for your geographic area. The links below provide email addresses and phone numbers to help you in this effort.

Your support of the National Weather Service is greatly appreciated. You are making the difference in helping the agency continue their mission of saving lives and property. Thank you.


Dear Mr. Speaker (for Speaker John Boehner) OR
Dear Mr. Cantor (for Rep. Eric Cantor)

I am writing to ask you to support the Senate's proposal for NOAA's budget. This proposal will help NOAA and the National Weather Service continue the mission of saving lives and property.

The Senate's proposal includes responsible funding levels in stark contrast to the draconian cuts included in HR1. HR1 would have resulted in the following impacts on the National Weather Service:

* Reduced staffing at Weather Forecast Offices and River Forecast Centers would result in incomplete forecast production which could prove disastrous in a significant weather event. Even in the best of cases, it will still mean incomplete forecast production at WFOs that have major product workloads for aviation, marine, tropical and public services.

* This is going to have a negative impact on the economy and on almost every aspect of our daily lives. There will be a large scale economic impact on aviation, agriculture, and the cost shipping food and other products.

* Service backup of 24 Weather Forecasting Offices has never been tested and runs a very significant risk of a missed tornado, flood or severe weather warning. It is risking lives at the onset of both tornadoes and hurricane season. This is also doubling the area of responsibility for operations and adds the risk of degraded service delivery.

* The National Hurricane Center is not immune to these cuts as furloughs and staffing cuts will add strain to the program. The Hurricane Hunter Jet, which provides lifesaving data and helps determine a hurricane.s path, could also be eliminated.

* Information that is vital for weather modeling and accurate tornado watches and warnings will be reduced and in some cases lost. Reduced upper air observations currently made twice a day could be reduced to once every other day. Buoy and surface weather observations, the backbone of most of the weather and warning systems, may be temporarily or permanently discontinued.

Recent advances in aviation weather forecasting have resulted in as much as a 50 percent reduction in weather related flight delays. The Senate.s proposal for funding will help progressive programs such as these continue and may, in turn, prove beneficial to strengthening the economy.
For the safety of our citizens, the protection of property, and the large scale economic impact on aviation, agriculture, and commerce, I am asking you to vote in support the Senate.s proposal for NOAA's budget.

Sincerely,
Your Name

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I encourage all of you to make your voices heard and help preserve funding for NOAA and the National Weather Service.

You can call or email your U.S. Senator using this link: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information /senators_cfm.cfm

You can call or email your U.S. House of Representatives member using this link: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

The National Weather Service Employees Organization web site has talking points and sample letters (printable) you can use to contact your Senators and Representative.

Climate Science and EPA’s Greenhouse Gas Regulations
The U.S. House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Energy and Power, chaired by Rep. Ed Whitfield (R-KY), will hold a hearing on Tuesday, March 8, 2011, at 10:00 a.m. in room 2123 of the Rayburn House Office Building. The hearing is entitled, “Climate Science and EPA’s Greenhouse Gas Regulations.” Full Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-MI) and Rep. Whitfield have joined Democratic leaders in the U.S. House in authoring the Energy Tax Prevention Act (H.R. 910), a bill to block EPA’s controversial backdoor climate change agenda that would further drive up the price of energy for American consumers and job creators at a time when gas prices are already spiking and job creation remains weak.

The hearing is open to the public and press. Opening statements, witness testimony, and a live webcast will be available online at http://energycommerce.house.gov

Jeff Masters

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Quoting spathy:

Ah thank you.
I love WU.
So its a cut of remaining not total monies.
LOVE IT!
Refer to post #491.
Now We know the rest of the story.
Or do we?
Nrtiw...
You got your #s straight?
I bet you do.
You have always been a decent poster of relevant timely info.
So is my approximation of 10% to 12% reflective of total cuts of an entire fiscal year?


Not applicable, since the cuts are coming out of the REMAINDER of the budget. $454 million/$1.7 billion is 27%. The demanded cuts for next year will reflect this as well, with much more than $454 million cut out of the full-year budget for the next fiscal year (2012 if we ever get through with 2011's budget).
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Quoting Neapolitan:

it's not that Scott wants to close any extant parks, it's that his budget proposal doesn't allow a dime for "Florida Forever", the conservation land-buying initiative that has made many of those parks possible. And with land dirt cheap right now down here, there's not likely to be a better time to buy. Let the state legislature know: http://supportfloridaforever.org/

Unfortunately, Scott thinks he can run the state like a fiefdom, like a monarchy. But fortunately for us--and unfortunately for him--this is a democracy, so it's not his way or no way, much as he wishes it were.


Greetings Neapolitan,

I am not going to go back and quote directly, but I am quite sure you knew I was addressing an assertion that Gov. Scott was going to shut down Florida State Parks. Clearly, that is not the case. I was not, and did not, address Florida Forever. You have mentioned in the past that you are a member of a certain group of exceptionally gifted thinkers. Yet, you deflect the issue to gain what you see as a “win” for you, and play partisan politics. It truly troubles me that you would sink to the level that the partisans want the “common” folk at, and that is to divide us and keep us occupied while getting us into the mess we now find ourselves in.

Debate is a healthy thing Nea. Deflecting and inserting other issues in response to ones post so you can “one-up” them is not constructive, and quite frankly, is just plain dishonest. You and I have had disagreements in the past. That’s ok. I do not harbor ill feelings toward you. I just ask that you be respectful and honest, as I am towards you.

Please take care, and have a great evening.

Very Respectfully,

Jon
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Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:




A little zing never hurt anybody. Pythagoras didn't teach any quantative math and Euclid was always late to his classes, so I was a little deprived. They tried to teach me, but I told them it was all "Greek" to me. I did get as far as Quantum physics, but only because it was required. I never did that well, though. Theory I understood well, application, not so well.
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Lot's in a short period, with good size. That is unusual.

MAP 5.2 2011/03/09 04:05:54 38.870 142.420 10.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.0 2011/03/09 03:19:00 38.795 142.962 19.9 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.2 2011/03/09 03:08:36 38.339 143.097 24.4 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 5.6 2011/03/09 02:57:17 38.402 142.825 17.5 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP 7.2 2011/03/09 02:45:18 38.510 142.792 14.1 NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN



Gnight~~~~
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Quoting JFLORIDA:
Oh i was looking at the updated warning - it was like almost 2 hrs ago.


Does anyone know what the wave was like near the epicenter?


I'm just glad you don't work for the Tsunami Warning Center. We could all be very wet by now. Don't know the info yet. Just wonder if they had any damage in Japan.
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Strong winds tonight here in N Mobile County. More severe weather to come in the A.M.
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Quoting Grothar:


You're doing well, spathy. I am watching everything you write. I am not good at math so I refrain from commenting. But you made some good points. 50% of the time I get the math wrong, and the other 60% I don't understand. Keep them on their toes.

I would imagine that you do quantitative math in your sleep. You don't get to be your age and not learn upper level math, just to figure out your age. Sorry, Grothar. I could not resist that little zing.

The Houston, TX area was under a no burn alert  last week due to dry conditions. Over the weekend and today we have gotten some decent rain. I have not heard if they canceled the alert. We may not have gotten enough rain for that.

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Quoting sunlinepr:
Seems like this year will be a very active CV season...
Move those African waves in the ITCZ, 10 to 20 degrees north (Summer) and were ready...

Animation Link

Notice how the swirl East of Spain how it disipattes


The waves are dissipating and dont appear to be strong in anyway. Although that's normal for any given year, the truth is you dont know whats in store until the hurricane season is here, and the frontal system that caused NE flooding is pushing the all the lows in a dominoe effect which is hitting the low west of spain and forcing it into Morroco. So yes its weakening.
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Quoting JFLORIDA:
7.2 earthquake hits off coast of Japan



We covered that a couple of hours ago. How you doing JF. Looks like some severe weather down in the South. Nasty looking storms.
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Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:

HERE IS BIG PICTURE

lots of weather



They expect some severe flooding in the Northeast at the end of the week. I have a home there. They told me this afternoon the creeks were a'risin and the rivers are just at flood stage. Won't take much to get them going. They have a tremendous amount of snow on the ground and with that much rain, it is not a good thing.
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Howdy,

Just checkin some stuff out an thought I would share.

From the 2nd.



SDO has been doing a tremendous job!

Lots to dig into on the site.

http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/

Let alone this site -- clickable pic



And always check here for good stuff :)

http://spaceweather.com/



Big picture, we need this stuff, don't let it slip away.......
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Quoting sunlinepr:
Seems like this year will be a very active CV season...
Move those African waves in the ITCZ, 10 to 20 degrees north (Summer) and were ready...

Animation Link

Notice how the swirl East of Spain how it disipattes


The waves are dissipating and dont appear to be strong in anyway. Although that's normal for any given year, the truth is you dont know whats in store until the hurricane season is here, and the frontal system that caused NE flooding is pushing the all the lows in a dominoe effect which is hitting the low west of spain and forcing it into Morroco. So yes its weakening.
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Quoting Grothar:


Funny, it looks bad. How do you get those so fast? I have been trying to get them for about 1/2 hour. (and I am and old codger. Would you want me any other way)
Like H7 in post 537...getting less organized.
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Quoting Grothar:


Funny, it looks bad. How do you get those so fast? I have been trying to get them for about 1/2 hour. (and I am and old codger. Would you want me any other way)

HERE IS BIG PICTURE

lots of weather

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Quoting atmoaggie:
It's stormy, but not likely severe.



(And currently no severe warnings of any kind)


Funny, it looks bad. How do you get those so fast? I have been trying to get them for about 1/2 hour. (and I am and old codger. Would you want me any other way)
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Quoting EYEStoSEA:
Hey Grothar....."the creeks out and a risin"...cant get to the rain gauge to check inches, but a LOT.....My sattelite dish is out and I'm going to unplug everything now....lightning is horrible.....check in later.


Wait, don't pull that plu...............
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Quoting Grothar:


Can you find any map of Tensas Parish? It looks like some big cells up there.
It's stormy, but not likely severe.



(And currently no severe warnings of any kind)
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Quoting atmoaggie:
So far, there is a LSR of flooding. And one of 0.88 inch hail.

HAIL 2 SSE ALEXANDRIA E0.88 INCH RAPIDES LA


Can you find any map of Tensas Parish? It looks like some big cells up there.
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Quoting Grothar:


I've had to endure worse. Looks like Rapides Parish is really getting the brunt.
So far, there is a LSR of flooding. And one of 0.88 inch hail.

HAIL 2 SSE ALEXANDRIA E0.88 INCH RAPIDES LA
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Hey Grothar....."the creeks out and a risin"...cant get to the rain gauge to check inches, but a LOT.....My sattelite dish is out and I'm going to unplug everything now....lightning is horrible.....check in later.
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Quoting atmoaggie:
Yeah, I'll try to stand in as best I can. Hope you can stand it.


I've had to endure worse. Looks like Rapides Parish is really getting the brunt.
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Quoting Grothar:


Well, xcool isn't here, I guess you will have to do. Thanks for the image. Looks really serious. Those cells seem to be maintaing themselves for a long time. On the large radar screens, it looks almost like a depression.
Yeah, I'll try to stand in as best I can. Hope you can stand it.

Just try to not be such an old codger for a change.
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Quoting atmoaggie:
65 dbz sustained itself through the south of Alexandria...and still going.



Well, xcool isn't here, I guess you will have to do. Thanks for the image. Looks really serious. Those cells seem to be maintaing themselves for a long time. On the large radar screens, it looks almost like a depression.
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Quoting atmoaggie:

65 dbz sustained itself through the south of Alexandria...and still going.



H7 looks like it would be a bit nasty.



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Quoting spathy:


But just to reemphasize.
You have a great place on my mental Mantle.
ds,bs,ps,and qs to you.
Boy did they ???
Mess with my head in elementary school.


Thank you for tha. They can do that in school. LOL They have come a long way in identifying learning problems. I admit that I truly do have a problem with mathematics. It was never identified as such when I was in school. They referred to it as laziness. Now they know better. Still can't balance my checkbook though.
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Quoting Grothar:


Looks pretty bad down there. I can't get any local radar maps. Where is xcool when you need him.

65 dbz sustained itself through the south of Alexandria...and still going.

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Melting Ice Sheets Now Largest Contributor to Sea Level Rise

ScienceDaily (Mar. 8, 2011) -The Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets are losing mass at an accelerating pace, according to a new NASA-funded satellite study. The findings of the study -- the longest to date of changes in polar ice sheet mass -- suggest these ice sheets are overtaking ice loss from Earth's mountain glaciers and ice caps to become the dominant contributor to global sea level rise, much sooner than model forecasts have predicted.

The nearly 20-year study reveals that in 2006, a year in which comparable results for mass loss in mountain glaciers and ice caps are available from a separate study conducted using other methods, the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets lost a combined mass of 475 gigatonnes a year on average. That's enough to raise global sea level by an average of 1.3 millimeters (.05 inches) a year. (A gigatonne is one billion metric tons, or more than 2.2 trillion pounds.) Ice sheets are defined as being larger than 50,000 square kilometers, or 20,000 square miles, and only exist in Greenland and Antarctica while ice caps are areas smaller than 50,000 square km.....

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The authors conclude that, if current ice sheet melting rates continue for the next four decades, their cumulative loss could raise sea level by 15 centimeters (5.9 inches) by 2050. When this is added to the predicted sea level contribution of 8 centimeters (3.1 inches) from glacial ice caps and 9 centimeters (3.5 inches) from ocean thermal expansion, total sea level rise could reach 32 centimeters (12.6 inches). While this provides one indication of the potential contribution ice sheets could make to sea level in the coming century, the authors caution that considerable uncertainties remain in estimating future ice loss acceleration.
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Quoting Skyepony:
Lightning hit a substation, there's flooding. Hattiesburg, MS ended up getting 1" hail..
At least they didn't get a nado (as far as we know, so far).

The hail looked like an almost certainty when that deepest cell was approaching (and I made that comment about) Hattiesburg ~4 hours ago. Nado looked remotely possible.
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It's All in a Name: 'Global Warming' Vs. 'Climate Change'

ScienceDaily (Mar. 8, 2011) — Many Americans are skeptical about whether the world's weather is changing, but apparently the degree of skepticism varies systematically depending on what that change is called.

According to a University of Michigan study published in the forthcoming issue of Public Opinion Quarterly, more people believe in "climate change" than in "global warming."

"Wording matters," said Jonathon Schuldt, the lead author of the article about the study and a doctoral candidate in the U-M Department of Psychology.

Schuldt co-authored the study with U-M psychologists Sara Konrath and Norbert Schwarz. For the research, they conducted a question wording experiment in the American Life Panel, an online survey conducted by RAND, with a national sample of 2,267 U.S. adults. Participants were asked to report their level of certainty about whether global climate change is a serious problem. In the following question, half the participants heard one version, half heard the other:

"You may have heard about the idea that the world's temperature may have been going up [changing] over the past 100 years, a phenomenon sometimes called 'global warming' ['climate change']. What is your personal opinion regarding whether or not this has been happening?

Overall, 74 percent of people thought the problem was real when it was referred to as climate change, while about 68 percent thought it was real when it was referred to as global warming.

These different levels of belief may stem from the different associations carried by the two terms, Schuldt said. "While global warming focuses attention on temperature increases, climate change focuses attention on more general changes," he said. "Thus, an unusually cold day may increase doubts about global warming more so than about climate change. Given these different associations and the partisan nature of this issue, climate change believers and skeptics might be expected to vary in their use of these terms."

As part of the study, the researchers also analyzed the use of these two terms on political think tank websites, finding that liberals and conservatives used different terms. Conservative think tanks tend to call the phenomenon global warming, while liberal think tanks call it climate change.

And when the researchers analyzed responses to the survey by political orientation, they found that the different overall levels in belief were driven almost entirely by participants who identified themselves as Republicans. While 60 percent of Republicans reported that they thought climate change was real, for example, only 44 percent said they believed in the reality of global warming.

In contrast, about 86 percent of Democrats thought climate change was a serious problem, no matter what it was called. Why weren't they influenced by question wording? "It might be a ceiling effect, given their high level of belief," Konrath said. "Or it could be that Democrats' beliefs about global climate change might be more crystallized, and as a result, more protected from subtle manipulations."

The good news is that Americans may not be as polarized on the issue as previously thought. "The extent of the partisan divide on this issue depends heavily on question wording," said Schwarz, who is also affiliated with the U-M Ross Business School and the Institute of Social Research (ISR). "When the issue is framed as global warming, the partisan divide is nearly 42 percentage points. But when the frame is climate change, the partisan divide drops to about 26 percentage points."
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Quoting Grothar:


Well, make sure you clean up your room. I heard you left it a big mess when you left.


Haha, it wasn't.

Oh, BTW everyone, the trolls who invaded this blog in December are in chat right now. You can deal with them as you please.
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Quoting aislinnpaps:
Evening all. Louisiana is really getting hit tonight again. Another tornado just west of me. Hopefully everyone there is all right.


Looks pretty bad down there. I can't get any local radar maps. Where is xcool when you need him.

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Cassini Finds Saturn's Moon Enceladus Is a Powerhouse



This graphic, using data from NASA's Cassini spacecraft, shows how the south polar terrain of Saturn's moon Enceladus emits much more power than scientists had originally predicted. (Credit: NASA/JPL/SWRI/SSI)

ScienceDaily (Mar. 8, 2011) — Heat output from the south polar region of Saturn's moon Enceladus is much greater than was previously thought possible, according to a new analysis of data collected by NASA's Cassini spacecraft.

The study was published in the Journal of Geophysical Research on March 4.

Data from Cassini's composite infrared spectrometer of Enceladus' south polar terrain, which is marked by linear fissures, indicate that the internal heat-generated power is about 15.8 gigawatts, approximately 2.6 times the power output of all the hot springs in the Yellowstone region, or comparable to 20 coal-fueled power stations. This is more than an order of magnitude higher than scientists had predicted, according to Carly Howett, the lead author of study, who is a postdoctoral researcher at Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colo., and a composite infrared spectrometer science team member.

"The mechanism capable of producing the much higher observed internal power remains a mystery and challenges the currently proposed models of long-term heat production," said Howett....

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WHITE FLAG....I SURRENDER !! Rain, rain go away...to Florida..
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Quoting caneswatch:


Haha, how've you been? It feels so good to be back home.


Well, make sure you clean up your room. I heard you left it a big mess when you left.
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