Senate committee proposes less drastic budget cuts for NOAA

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 10:16 PM GMT on March 07, 2011

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Last month, the U.S. House of Representatives proposed a new budget (HR 1) for the remainder of the fiscal year that would slash funding of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) by $454 million. This would mean a draconian 28% cut for the National Weather Service, the agency entrusted to protect us from natural hazards such as hurricanes, tornadoes, and floods. Monday, the U.S. Senate Appropriations Committee released a proposed alternative to HR 1 that would make a $110 million reduction to NOAA operations for the remainder of the fiscal year. Of the $110 million cut, $104 million was from earmarks that are no longer funded. This effectively only cuts the NOAA budget by $6 million, and would allow NOAA to continue its efforts through the coming tornado, flood, and hurricane seasons to help protect lives and property without suffering from crippling budget cuts.

Now is the time to mobilize to ensure adequate funding for NOAA, and the National Weather Service Employees Organization issued these recommendations in a letter posted on their website today:

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Assuming the Senate adopts this proposal, the effort goes to convincing House Leadership of the important work of the NWS and fully funding NOAA. At this important stage, we ask you to contact Congressmen John Boehner and Eric Cantor and respectfully request that they support the Senate's proposal for NOAA's budget. These congressmen hold the key to the future of the NWS.

To email or call Speaker John Boehner
http://www.speaker.gov/Contact/

To email or call Representative Eric Cantor
http://cantor.house.gov/contact/

You can also join the Protect the National Weather Service Facebook group, which was created for this cause. Our fan count is growing rapidly but we need more. We want Congress to take notice of how much support our fans have shown. Please share this message with your friends and ask them to click "like" directly on our page. We will have more information, some cool photos and interesting tidbits to share in the coming days.

Sample letters and talking points are available below. Please feel free to use these letters and also tailor them to the particular types of weather for your geographic area. The links below provide email addresses and phone numbers to help you in this effort.

Your support of the National Weather Service is greatly appreciated. You are making the difference in helping the agency continue their mission of saving lives and property. Thank you.


Dear Mr. Speaker (for Speaker John Boehner) OR
Dear Mr. Cantor (for Rep. Eric Cantor)

I am writing to ask you to support the Senate's proposal for NOAA's budget. This proposal will help NOAA and the National Weather Service continue the mission of saving lives and property.

The Senate's proposal includes responsible funding levels in stark contrast to the draconian cuts included in HR1. HR1 would have resulted in the following impacts on the National Weather Service:

* Reduced staffing at Weather Forecast Offices and River Forecast Centers would result in incomplete forecast production which could prove disastrous in a significant weather event. Even in the best of cases, it will still mean incomplete forecast production at WFOs that have major product workloads for aviation, marine, tropical and public services.

* This is going to have a negative impact on the economy and on almost every aspect of our daily lives. There will be a large scale economic impact on aviation, agriculture, and the cost shipping food and other products.

* Service backup of 24 Weather Forecasting Offices has never been tested and runs a very significant risk of a missed tornado, flood or severe weather warning. It is risking lives at the onset of both tornadoes and hurricane season. This is also doubling the area of responsibility for operations and adds the risk of degraded service delivery.

* The National Hurricane Center is not immune to these cuts as furloughs and staffing cuts will add strain to the program. The Hurricane Hunter Jet, which provides lifesaving data and helps determine a hurricane.s path, could also be eliminated.

* Information that is vital for weather modeling and accurate tornado watches and warnings will be reduced and in some cases lost. Reduced upper air observations currently made twice a day could be reduced to once every other day. Buoy and surface weather observations, the backbone of most of the weather and warning systems, may be temporarily or permanently discontinued.

Recent advances in aviation weather forecasting have resulted in as much as a 50 percent reduction in weather related flight delays. The Senate.s proposal for funding will help progressive programs such as these continue and may, in turn, prove beneficial to strengthening the economy.
For the safety of our citizens, the protection of property, and the large scale economic impact on aviation, agriculture, and commerce, I am asking you to vote in support the Senate.s proposal for NOAA's budget.

Sincerely,
Your Name

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I encourage all of you to make your voices heard and help preserve funding for NOAA and the National Weather Service.

You can call or email your U.S. Senator using this link: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information /senators_cfm.cfm

You can call or email your U.S. House of Representatives member using this link: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

The National Weather Service Employees Organization web site has talking points and sample letters (printable) you can use to contact your Senators and Representative.

Climate Science and EPA’s Greenhouse Gas Regulations
The U.S. House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Energy and Power, chaired by Rep. Ed Whitfield (R-KY), will hold a hearing on Tuesday, March 8, 2011, at 10:00 a.m. in room 2123 of the Rayburn House Office Building. The hearing is entitled, “Climate Science and EPA’s Greenhouse Gas Regulations.” Full Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-MI) and Rep. Whitfield have joined Democratic leaders in the U.S. House in authoring the Energy Tax Prevention Act (H.R. 910), a bill to block EPA’s controversial backdoor climate change agenda that would further drive up the price of energy for American consumers and job creators at a time when gas prices are already spiking and job creation remains weak.

The hearing is open to the public and press. Opening statements, witness testimony, and a live webcast will be available online at http://energycommerce.house.gov

Jeff Masters

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Politics and religion.......the 2 subjects ya just shouldn't bring up on here.......never works out...tempers flaring, BP"s rising,....it's just to close to bedtime for all that....;)
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Quoting sunlinepr:

Solo Espanol e Ingles; no hablo Holandes... aunque parece Aleman

I can Bitte nur auf Englisch and Spanisch...

Hitler in that war



Cómo sabes que hablan holandés y alemán?

I am always surprised on this blog with the amount of talent on here.
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Quoting WeatherSarge:
Sorry...I support these cuts and many, many more. While I agree they could definately find a better place to cut, we have to start somewhere. Of every dollar the current administration spends, 40% is "borrowed"...printed out of thin air. If we don't stop this insanity, we will finish off what was once the greatest free market in the world. The American people in general have been lulled to sleep over the past 60 years...We have become complacent and have developed an entitlement mentality and demanded more and more spending until not only is this country broke...WE ARE BANKRUPT...

Please, IF you are going to write your congressmen, Insist on more cuts in spending!

That's the way I see it!


I agree, the government has been foolish with money, but maybe its because for years Americans have been asking the government to improve our system, while being stuck in childhood and not accepting a citizen must pay their taxes to pay for these things. The government gives what people ask for, so the debt is as much our fault as citizens as the government. You can't point the finger and say its all them.

Also, cutting everything isn't wise either, unless you think going back into stone age technology is wise, and dismantling the government that keeps the nation safe...
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Quoting Ossqss:



I did find one of your earlier weather posts, go figure, they have a pretty good database :)

Night>



You shouldn't make someone laugh that much. Almost sounds like me though.
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Maine’s green future debatedGovernor wants rules streamlined; foes see assault on environment.

In New Jersey, to similar outrage from environmentalists, Governor Chris Christie previously introduced many of the same proposals put forth by LePage: establishing a fast track to approval for development proposals, shifting authority from environmental boards to administrative judges, and prohibiting state standards that are stricter than federal regulations.

Florida’s new governor, Rick Scott, used his recent budget recommendations to eliminate funding for the state’s land conservation program, Florida Forever, and to drastically downsize the state agency in charge of managing sprawl, the Department of Community Affairs, by slashing its budget from $779 million to $110 million, according to Sarah Bucci, a field associate with the advocacy group Environment Florida


http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/green/articles/20 11/03/07/maine_governors_budget_would_drop_many_gr een_rules/


Link



http://www.envirowiki.info/List_of_anti-nuclear_p rotests_in_the_United_States
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Grothar.....time for bed, grandpa!!!!!!!
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Quoting Grothar:


Bitte nur auf Englisch

Solo Espanol e Ingles; no hablo Holandes... aunque parece Aleman

I can Bitte nur auf Englisch and Spanisch...

Link
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Quoting Xyrus2000:


Entitlements? Really? Did you somehow miss the past decade?

Taxes could be raised to pay for all this "demanded" spending. But that would be too much like common sense.

By the way, only the rich get entitlements. Everyone else gets handouts.


Many people are selfish, they want their comfort and clean cities, but complain of the taxes that are needed for that.

If we want improvement, we need to accept taxes. Unfortunately though, many today are stuck in childhood, expecting no taxes, while also expecting the government to solve all the problems.

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Quoting sunlinepr:


Espero que no, pues Si ocurre en el Este, habra Tsunami para ambas islas...





Bitte nur auf Englisch
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Quoting Grothar:


They almost didn't want to take me in the French and Indian War. Thought I was too old.


On what side were you in that war?
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Quoting Grothar:


They almost didn't want to take me in the French and Indian War. Thought I was too old.



I did find one of your earlier weather posts, go figure, they have a pretty good database :)

Night>

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Quoting JRRP:
Rep%uFFFDblica Dominicana est%uFFFD en riesgo de sufrir un terremoto ..../m-p/417545198;jsessionid=30AFFF18EEE43D8D8E09 92A3ECCCA3B8" target="_blank" onclick="if(!checkUrl(this.href)) return false;" rel="nofollow">Link


Espero que no, pues Si ocurre en el Este, habra Tsunami para ambas islas...



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Quoting Ossqss:


We do thank you for your service in the :

# French and Indian War (1754-1763) colonial militias
# American Revolution (1775-1783)
# War of 1812 (1812-1814)
# Mexican-American War (1846-1848)
# US Civil War (1861-1865)
# Spanish-American War (1898)
# World War 1 (1914-1918) entered 1917
# World War 2 (1939-1945) entered 1941

Gro, for sure :)




They almost didn't want to take me in the French and Indian War. Thought I was too old.
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que no es bueno!

Lo mejor para ti!

Tengo que ir al trabajo nocturno temprana, buena.
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Quoting Neapolitan:

Maybe this will help ...


"...statistics for dummies..."

Maybe I can borrow your copy.

Or perhaps Mann has a spare copy.

So what you're actually saying is either you CAN'T answer, or WON'T answer.

Neither one supports your case...
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Quoting Neapolitan:

True. Also true: national debt as a percentage of GDP increased under Nixon/Ford, Reagan, and both Bushes (with it going up by 20% in Dubya's second term alone.). It went down under Carter and Clinton.

Hmmm.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S ._presidential_terms


Have seen it, read it, understood it.
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China is happily laughing at us for the GOP's boneheaded move, which The Guardian calls "the greatest assault on environmental protection ever seen in the U.S."

Some people must be feeling very proud.

Article
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105. JLPR2
Quoting JRRP:
República Dominicana está en riesgo de sufrir un terremoto parecido al que devastó Haití, avisaron el lunes un grupo de expertos que se reunirán con el presidente Leonel Fernández el mes que viene.

Los investigadores de la Universidad de Columbia dijeron a The Associated Press que Santiago de los Caballeros, con más de un millón de habitantes y la segunda mayor ciudad del país, está en riesgo de sufrir un terremoto de magnitud 8.

Un temblor de magnitud 7.0 cobró la vida de más de 200,000 personas en Haití en enero del 2010.
Link


Yeah, I read that a little while ago and that would be terrible, I really hope they are wrong.
By the way a friend of mine is running for Miss Dominican Republic universe. :D Going to see what happens tomorrow.
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latest nam
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Quoting Grothar:
After World War II, the national debt stood at approximately 121% of the GNP.


We do thank you for your service in the :

# French and Indian War (1754-1763) colonial militias
# American Revolution (1775-1783)
# War of 1812 (1812-1814)
# Mexican-American War (1846-1848)
# US Civil War (1861-1865)
# Spanish-American War (1898)
# World War 1 (1914-1918) entered 1917
# World War 2 (1939-1945) entered 1941

Gro, for sure :)


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101. JRRP
República Dominicana está en riesgo de sufrir un terremoto parecido al que devastó Haití, avisaron el lunes un grupo de expertos que se reunirán con el presidente Leonel Fernández el mes que viene.

Los investigadores de la Universidad de Columbia dijeron a The Associated Press que Santiago de los Caballeros, con más de un millón de habitantes y la segunda mayor ciudad del país, está en riesgo de sufrir un terremoto de magnitud 8.

Un temblor de magnitud 7.0 cobró la vida de más de 200,000 personas en Haití en enero del 2010.
Link
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Quoting Grothar:
After World War II, the national debt stood at approximately 121% of the GNP.

True. Also true: national debt as a percentage of GDP increased under Nixon/Ford, Reagan, and both Bushes (with it going up by 20% in Dubya's second term alone.). It went down under Carter and Clinton.

Hmmm.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S ._presidential_terms
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China announces energy-saving plans
4 March 2011
Environment must not be sacrificed to unsustainable development, says nation's premier.

China aims to reduce its energy intensity — or energy consumption per unit of economic output — by 16-17% by the end of 2015, said Premier Wen Jiabao on Sunday during an online conversation with the country's citizens....

Link
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Quoting JFLORIDA:
FYI That sucking sound is an approaching 80s video.
or some type of hand pump
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Quoting JFLORIDA:
That sucking sound is an approaching 80s video.


Glad to see it when you show your sense of humor. Yes, JF we are facing enormous and even insurmountable problems, but sometimes we all have to lighten up just a little. Even during the worst of times during the blitz of London during World War II, Winston Churchill used humor to help ease the people's fears. It isn't always a bad thing. I agree, sometimes it is ill-timed, but rarely meant to offend.
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Taxes done. Ready for Hurricane Season? Have that gut feeling our time is coming.
yeah iam expecting the gulf coast to have above normal coastal tropical activity this year
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Quoting hcubed:


And send them this as well - it shows that even the IPCC can't agree what they're trying to show.

This is part of the "Global Climate Change Indicators", compared to an earlier IPCC presentation.



Once again - how can the same chart show both an anomaly in degrees C (which is by definition a difference between two datasets), and actual observed temperatures in degrees F?

Maybe this will help ...
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After World War II, the national debt stood at approximately 121% of the GNP.
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After a quick view of the blog I see the reason why I hate it here during the off-season.

Been awhile..
How's everyone doing?
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Hmmmmm...Wait and see...Still too early. Wanna see an 80's YouTube video?


At least give me a hint. Would it be a video I would remember? The 80's was a long time ago.
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It is unfortunate, but all things happen for a reason. Just like one of us,,, when our spending exceeds our income over time we are forced to make changes. The government must do the same when tax receipts fall. It ultimately impacts all facets involved. It is all bolted together. Just like housing, manufacturing, and more importantly unemployment. It is about who pays the bills and who gets the money in the end......

Gallup Finds U.S. Unemployment Hitting 10.3% in February



No, this poll does not seasonally adjust. But think about how many have been removed from the labor force. By virtue of the process, and survey by the BLS, there are millions who are no longer counted. More than you probably could imagine, unfortunately....... it should be over 11%. Don't give me grief on it! I am just passing the reality on . Do your own homework.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

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Ut-Oh...What will John Cena and "The Rock" do tonight?
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Quoting Patrap:
Dear Mr. Boehner,

please forward this to Sen. Inhofe, R. Oklahoma

Global Climate Change Indicators
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
National Climatic Data Center



Thank you,





And send them this as well - it shows that even the IPCC can't agree what they're trying to show.

This is part of the "Global Climate Change Indicators", compared to an earlier IPCC presentation.



Once again - how can the same chart show both an anomaly in degrees C (which is by definition a difference between two datasets), and actual observed temperatures in degrees F?
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Quoting Grothar:


I think you have to ask permission first now. This isn't a social blog you know. There is important stuff to discuss. If it is weather related, I would enjoy seeing it. Please try to stay on topic. I never saw the term Arctic dipole brought up once on this blog until I mentioned it one night. Now everybody is jumping on it.


That's because you are special. And I will try to stay on topic.
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Hmmmmm...Wait and see...Still too early. Wanna see an 80's YouTube video?


I think you have to ask permission first now. This isn't a social blog you know. There is important stuff to discuss. If it is weather related, I would enjoy seeing it. Please try to stay on topic. I never saw the term Arctic dipole brought up once on this blog until I mentioned it one night. Now everybody is jumping on it.
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Quoting Grothar:


I bet my refund is bigger than yours! Been looking at the latest projections. If the Arctic dipole and the AO stay negative, that could spell trouble with very low wind shear. The SST's are looking warmer everyday. Reading the latest from Klotzbach, and it seems he is tending to more landfalling systems than last year.


Hmmmmm...Wait and see...Still too early. Wanna see an 80's YouTube video?
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Quoting JFLORIDA:
75. Who would the Canadians go to then for weather is what I want to know. j/k

76 IE? Ubuntu is free. If you have an old second computer try it. Once you start using it - you'll never go back to a proprietary system.
It's a good thing though that my new computer is coming in tomorrow.Soooo I won't have to put up with this bull any more.Lol.
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Taxes done. Ready for Hurricane Season? Have that gut feeling our time is coming.
I think the gulf coast,and east coast are at most risk.The gulf stream looks mighty onimous this year,and so does that eddie in the gulf.Not a good sign at all.....
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Quoting WeatherSarge:
Sorry...I support these cuts and many, many more. While I agree they could definately find a better place to cut, we have to start somewhere. Of every dollar the current administration spends, 40% is "borrowed"...printed out of thin air. If we don't stop this insanity, we will finish off what was once the greatest free market in the world. The American people in general have been lulled to sleep over the past 60 years...We have become complacent and have developed an entitlement mentality and demanded more and more spending until not only is this country broke...WE ARE BANKRUPT...

Please, IF you are going to write your congressmen, Insist on more cuts in spending!

That's the way I see it!

It never ceases to amaze me that people don't understand that, in a severe recession, the central government needs to SPEND to get us out of it. It's a historically-proven precedent. Now that things are turning around, the spending will be curtailed. DO YOUR HOMEWORK - STUDY SOME HISTORY!!!!!!
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Taxes done. Ready for Hurricane Season? Have that gut feeling our time is coming.


I bet my refund is bigger than yours! Been looking at the latest projections. If the Arctic dipole and the AO stay negative, that could spell trouble with very low wind shear. The SST's are looking warmer everyday. Reading the latest from Klotzbach, and it seems he is tending to more landfalling systems than last year.
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Quoting Grothar:


Just hold your nose and it will taste like chocolate and strawberries. Are you getting ready for tax time?


Taxes done. Ready for Hurricane Season? Have that gut feeling our time is coming.
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Quoting JFLORIDA:
72 Dont you guys ever get out of this bolg. Its frightening that someone would only know a person from in here. Jheez Id even hate me if that were the case - lol.
For some odd reason my computer like literally hates this site..with a passion that is.So I think it purposly tries to screw things over when I get on here.Some bloggers in here I've never really associated myself with so I may not really notice them very well.Not saying I don't read their post It's just that I've never really paid attention to their name.
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75. Skyepony (Mod)
Jeff~ As politically torn up as this blog entry is going to be.. thanks for posting it. Had seen the cry from NWS about the House version. Hoped you'd prod us when it was the time to act.


Spathy~ the house cuts would end with rolling 27days closures of all the NWS offices. Soundings every other day if at all.. that's 3rd world man.. When Bush was in office he pulled those weather blackouts. Every time anything interesting was trying to spin up the buoys in that area if not all of them.. the data suddenly was inaccessible. It was horrible. A whole season with no buoys would be unimaginable. Add no Hurricane Hunters & we would only be able to guess by satellite what is about to hit us & the where wouldn't be as accurate. Without maintenance we'd be losing an investment that was meant to continue on for generations. We've already lost Quikscat.. the satellites are aging. Data about surface winds are scarce these days. NOAA budget is a drop compared to military. More people are dying of foul weather than terrorists. This is also one of those areas where we are buying a pound of prevention instead of increasing the already $11billion set aside for potential disaster.
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


We did have quite a downpour yesterday. Flooded the swales. Geflerkenurken tastes good...but can't stand the smell.


Just hold your nose and it will taste like chocolate and strawberries. Are you getting ready for tax time?
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